How will the Packers do?

[Milwaukee]

I want you guys' opinion.

If you don't know, through the draft they added
-another bump and run CB
-a pure pass rush DE
-a pass catching TE like Donald Lee
-and a nice looking WR, Jordy Nelson who can catch and is great with YAC like the other Pack WR's.

And Favre retired.

But ever since the Dallas gm I've been waiting to see what Rodgers can really do. The press and the team says this time last year is when the proverbial light bulb came on and he fully grasped the GB system....and he carved up a good Dallas D in his only action.

Bears suck and **** the Pats.

10-6 is my guess....Rodgers will be good but will go through growing pains but he'll have a good enough team to help him out.

[themenace47]

honestly i think they are gonna do very well

farve being gone will hurt for sure but overall they have the tools...

green bay is one of those teams i tend to pull for even though theres way too many packer fans in colorado...

i like their run game... actually on both sides of the ball.

i personally feel like the secondary is a little more vulnerable than most people do but they defenitely have the attitude i like...

hey thats a bonafide intangible and it defenitely matters more than any other single attribute for a db... <--- another crazy quote, i know...

[Packersrule1]

I want you guys' opinion.

If you don't know, through the draft they added
-another bump and run CB
-a pure pass rush DE
-a pass catching TE like Donald Lee
-and a nice looking WR, Jordy Nelson who can catch and is great with YAC like the other Pack WR's.

And Favre retired.

But ever since the Dallas gm I've been waiting to see what Rodgers can really do. The press and the team says this time last year is when the proverbial light bulb came on and he fully grasped the GB system....and he carved up a good Dallas D in his only action.

Bears suck and **** the Pats.

10-6 is my guess....Rodgers will be good but will go through growing pains but he'll have a good enough team to help him out.
I see at least 8 wins as long as Rodgers plays about average. Which shoudnt be very hard for him to accomplish.

[Warbuck$]

I liked what I saw from Rodgers in the Dallas game but there is a big difference in "relieving" and being the starter. But, with the Vikings' qb issues, I wouldn't rule out the Packers winning the North.

[H1tStick]

8-8 - 9-7



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[CP]

Anywhere from 11-13 wins.

[CP]

I liked what I saw from Rodgers in the Dallas game but there is a big difference in "relieving" and being the starter. But, with the Vikings' qb issues, I wouldn't rule out the Packers winning the North.

Do you think the Vikes are better than the Packers as we speak?

[Milwaukee]

8-8 - 9-7



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I can see the enthusiasm oozing through your keyboard

[Milwaukee]

Do you think the Vikes are better than the Packers as we speak?

Idk what he thinks but the Vikes have a very good team. It's rare that a team that good has the biggest question mark be the QB. Their CBs arent the greatest and they don't have good depth at LB which could hurt but then again they have possibly the best Oline and Dline tandem in the league...and Dline masks your other weaknesses on D.

Pack sweeps them in 08 :D

[Milwaukee]

I liked what I saw from Rodgers in the Dallas game but there is a big difference in "relieving" and being the starter. But, with the Vikings' qb issues, I wouldn't rule out the Packers winning the North.

Agreed. I think he hurt himself in practice the week after that game. Durability issues? Brian Brohm FTW

[CP]

Idk what he thinks but the Vikes have a very good team. It's rare that a team that good has the biggest question mark be the QB. Their CBs arent the greatest and they don't have good depth at LB which could hurt but then again they have possibly the best Oline and Dline tandem in the league...and Dline masks your other weaknesses on D.

Pack sweeps them in 08 :D

They are very good in the trenches, without question and Jared Allen is the move that could jumpstart that team, but with Tavaris Jackson at QB I don't think its fair to say they are even close to the Packers at this very moment.

[Milwaukee]

They are very good in the trenches, without question and Jared Allen is the move that could jumpstart that team, but with Tavaris Jackson at QB I don't think its fair to say they are even close to the Packers at this very moment.

I agree. IF the light bulb goes off in T Jacks head they are serious contenders for the NFC....although even if T Jack had a good regular season and minimized his mistakes I still think he would choke in the playoffs at some point.

Im really excited to see the rookie Jermichael Finley and Jordy Nelson b/c they both fit the scheme so well and should be productive from the 1st game. We have 2 TEs and 4 WRs that can all break a big one

[themenace47]

Idk what he thinks but the Vikes have a very good team. It's rare that a team that good has the biggest question mark be the QB. Their CBs arent the greatest and they don't have good depth at LB which could hurt but then again they have possibly the best Oline and Dline tandem in the league...and Dline masks your other weaknesses on D.

Pack sweeps them in 08 :D

ummm... which team has more of a ? at qb... plus im telling you that db situation in GB isnt as golden as guys think... both teams seem comparable to me and i like them both...

the vikings are a great team imo... they have every oppurtunity to succeed... plus they seem united, focused and dedicated to the goal...

lets let tavaris breath a little too, he did exactly what was asked of him...

and please dont make me begin my wr callouts again... i dont see them as dismal as the titans receiving corps was but ugggh... there is defenitely room for improvement... i would say that GBs biggest advantage is the proven, game-changing WRs... LBs and a slight tip in the secondary...

the vikes have that run game that can just allow for a rough day for an opponent and the run defense should force the packers new qb to shoulder the entire responsibility...
QB questions:
i just looked up jacksons numbers and they are a little rough but i remember some hard times near the end of the season last year with WRs and TEs not performing well... AP injured... and teams just absolutely dominating the run game of the vikes

for 1 thing, there were 2 distinct drops that were gauranteed tds and some abyssmal play from that whole group against the broncos... also im pretty sure at least 1 int was a ball that bounced directly off a wr...

3 rush tds... 3 fumbles lost

in all id give credit of being 50/50

can GB stick just anyone in to fill farve's shoes... is rodgers the new gunslingin hero in GB? doubtful... but since i have relatively no idea whats gonna happen id say the balance here is tilted towards the vikings

i see the sweep as less probable

[SicWithSkill]

I see at least 8 wins as long as Rodgers plays about average. Which shoudnt be very hard for him to accomplish.

rodgers has a WHOOOLLEEEE lot of shoes to fill befor i kno any packer fan will be satasified(sp?)

[Warbuck$]

Do you think the Vikes are better than the Packers as we speak?
I think they're close. Both teams have question marks imo. Is Ryan Grant really what we saw last year? The same guy that couldn't make the Giants squad or whatever team it was?
And the Vikings D is a turnover creating machine. Adding Allen only helped.

[Milwaukee]

ummm... which team has more of a ? at qb... plus im telling you that db situation in GB isnt as golden as guys think... both teams seem comparable to me and i like them both...

the vikings are a great team imo... they have every oppurtunity to succeed... plus they seem united, focused and dedicated to the goal...

lets let tavaris breath a little too, he did exactly what was asked of him...

and please dont make me begin my wr callouts again... i dont see them as dismal as the titans receiving corps was but ugggh... there is defenitely room for improvement... i would say that GBs biggest advantage is the proven, game-changing WRs... LBs and a slight tip in the secondary...

the vikes have that run game that can just allow for a rough day for an opponent and the run defense should force the packers new qb to shoulder the entire responsibility...
QB questions:
i just looked up jacksons numbers and they are a little rough but i remember some hard times near the end of the season last year with WRs and TEs not performing well... AP injured... and teams just absolutely dominating the run game of the vikes

for 1 thing, there were 2 distinct drops that were gauranteed tds and some abyssmal play from that whole group against the broncos... also im pretty sure at least 1 int was a ball that bounced directly off a wr...

3 rush tds... 3 fumbles lost

in all id give credit of being 50/50

can GB stick just anyone in to fill farve's shoes... is rodgers the new gunslingin hero in GB? doubtful... but since i have relatively no idea whats gonna happen id say the balance here is tilted towards the vikings

i see the sweep as less probable


I guess you didn't notice the obvious homerist ":D" after the sweep part. But the Packers have a great run D when all the DTs are healthy. They had 3-4 DTs go down last yr out of 7 man rotation which hurt them greatly in the 2nd half of the yr and the playoffs. AP got shut down by us in the 1st game and I forget how the 2nd game went against him. I could look it up but I don't really care tbh.

They will be 2 good games. Only my homerism makes me believe it'll be a sweep.

And Aaron Rodgers knows the dink and dunk quick slant/quick out O to a T. I'm not too worried about him except for when he has the inevitable bad game. How will he recover mentally? Its just unanswered stuff like that that I'm not sure about but overall he'll have a fine season imo

[SicWithSkill]

I think they're close. Both teams have question marks imo. Is Ryan Grant really what we saw last year? The same guy that couldn't make the Giants squad or whatever team it was?
And the Vikings D is a turnover creating machine. Adding Allen only helped.

the only person i fear on their O is jennings. tho winfield is about 31 now, and griffin isnt the best either but who knows..

[FusionGT]

The Packers are a 10 win team at best in my opinion, some of their questions are some of the worst spots to have questoins. I like Rodgers, but I'm nervous that there's going to be too much asked of him too early. Look at what happened to VY when more was asked of him, he regressed... Grant had an amazing season last year, one to write home about, however, can he do it again?

And the Vikings are looking VERY good on paper. But looking good on paper doesn't translate to looking good on the gridiron... I'll be curious to see how they do in their first couple of games. A healthy AP could provide to be deadly...

[Milwaukee]

the only person i fear on their O is jennings. tho winfield is about 31 now, and griffin isnt the best either but who knows..

Yep, GB's only weapon is Jennings :rolleyes:

[CP]

the only person i fear on their O is jennings. tho winfield is about 31 now, and griffin isnt the best either but who knows..

Wait, you're a Vikes fan?

[KingStyle]

Wait, you're a Vikes fan?

ns I thought he was a Vick loving Falcon fan?

There only used to be like 2 of us on here


BANDWAGON COME GET SOME

[Milwaukee]

Wait, you're a Vikes fan?

LMAO does he do that as a joke? Didn't he go from the Falcons to the Texans to the Vikes?

I hope this dude ain't serious....then he says the only person "I" fear is Jennings like he's been a lifelong Vike fan and knows the NFC North.

[FusionGT]

Give him a few weeks, there will be a new team... I think he's only a Vikes fan now because he's doing a franchise with them... Once he quits on that, he'll decide to switch up to a different team, one that's "going to be good." Either that or he'll stick with the Vikings until someone's better and say he liked them all along...

Pick a team. I've stuck with the Titans for, going on the 12th season in 21 years of my life. The only reason it's been only 12 is the fact that they've been in Tennessee for only 12 years. Prior to that, I was a Jets fan for a few years, just to be different from my mom who was a Giants fan...

[SicWithSkill]

LMAO does he do that as a joke? Didn't he go from the Falcons to the Texans to the Vikes?

I hope this dude ain't serious....then he says the only person "I" fear is Jennings like he's been a lifelong Vike fan and knows the NFC North.

nope. started watching them at the end of the 05 season. after all the **** happened with vick and with them losing all the players i liked last year, thats when i turned 100% to the vikes. Mainly because of Jackson. As for the Texans. they were my madden team last year.

p.s. me not knowing the NFC North is a crock of **** to. My mom is a huge Packers fan so we have been battling it out for 3 yrs now.

just cause my **** changes on here, doesn't mean they are my team. The only reason it was changing was because they were my madden team. Since ive come back, ive been sticking with my main team for 2 1/2 yrs now

[themenace47]

I guess you didn't notice the obvious homerist ":D" after the sweep part.
lol no its good to be a homer...

anyway i was just wanting to comment since i like both teams i wasnt trying to prove you "wrong" or imply you were an "idiot" or a "homer" or not "sportsy" enough because that sht is getting kinda gay around here...

lol guys are reading over posts like little sad vultures looking for any little tidbit to jump on now...

[Aaight]

I think it's almost impossible to give an opinion on the Packers. They are transitioning the most important position with a guy that no one knows what he can do. Even with the Bears, I can say "If Grossman improves his poise then.....", but there is almost nothing to go from with Rodgers.

[Bearfanmike20]

Name me one qb who followed a legend.. and succeeded. I can only think of one. Steve Young.. now name me 10 qbs who did the same and fell on thier face... that is an easy one too.

I personally think this div is sooooooo wide open. too many questions on all of the teams. No way to know. Its a crap shoot.