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BuckeyesTHEGAME
07-13-2004, 01:31 PM
So I'm going through the custom playbooks, right? I like to use the I formation on offense.

The only problem is, in every I formation I've found, there are 3-5 option plays and 1-2 option passes. It's like that in strong and weak formations, too. Basically, I'm wasting 4-7 plays in each playbook.

Did I miss a meeting here? The fact that a team uses those formations doesn't mean they run the option.

Am I just doing something wrong? Are there individualized formation plays like last year?

mad_bomber
07-13-2004, 02:21 PM
They seem to have gotten rid of the dual formation sets such as the I formation that was option based and the non option one. They appear to have combined those plays into the one formation.

BuckeyesTHEGAME
07-13-2004, 02:25 PM
Yea, I'm not liking this at all. I'm sure it means that Brock Berlin and the Miami Hurricanes will run the option (for a loss) when I play them. :rolleyes:

Oh well, the game's still fantastic.

BuckeyesTHEGAME
07-13-2004, 02:27 PM
Note: The game is fantastic, but the lack of off tackle plays is quite aggravating. That's my bread and butter!! I'm suffering from withdrawl already. :(

djwill13
07-13-2004, 02:32 PM
counter for me, even though it's not blocked the way it should be, it's still a fun play to run

blackpowdereer
07-13-2004, 02:46 PM
ARGH!

HB sprint from the Ace set....I really don't like the way they have changed the playbooks.....it's very frustrating....

BuckeyesTHEGAME
07-13-2004, 03:11 PM
I think there's an option in every play book.

Hell, the I formation has 6 normal running plays and 3 or 4 different options.

I am not pleased. This is a step backwards.

CrazyOldGuy
07-13-2004, 08:34 PM
Please please please tell me the Maryland I formation still has an off-tackle play and Sweep like it did in 2004?

What am I going to do if I don't have my favorite POWER formation??? :confused:

BuckeyesTHEGAME
07-13-2004, 10:52 PM
EA dropped the ball on the offensive playbooks. Like USC is going to run the option... come on!!

Razorbacker
07-13-2004, 10:57 PM
I am very disappointed in the playbooks, even though I am running a lot of option with my Hogs and Matt Jones.

They took out a lot of the really good, reliable pass plays that I liked.

I really don't understand EAS at all.

mad_bomber
07-13-2004, 10:57 PM
They've added some nice plays to the playbooks, I wouldn't say they totally dropped the ball, I do however agree that they could've excluded some of the option plays from those sets instead of them being universal to those formations.

BuckeyesTHEGAME
07-13-2004, 11:09 PM
The thing is, I NEVER run the option in my dynsasty. I play the way OSU does, grind it out, run up the middle, punt... then repeat. lol

But seriously, they did it fine last year, they had an I formation with option plays and an I without option plays.

Now you don't, and the running plays from the I SUCK.

toss, dive, counter, option, zone blocking plays

WHERE THE HELL IS MY POWER OFF TACKLE!?

Seriously... I need it. It is the bread and butter of Ohio State football. I NEED it.

Yes, I'm still a bit high-strung. :rolleyes:

BuckeyesTHEGAME
07-13-2004, 11:11 PM
Here's how bad the running plays are:

As of now, I'm 50/50 when it comes to run/pass.

Last year I was 65/35 and the year before that it was about the same.

I don't like throwing the ball this much.

mad_bomber
07-13-2004, 11:52 PM
WHERE THE HELL IS MY POWER OFF TACKLE!?



That power O play that Ohio State and many others use is a monster play! I have the Ohio State/Bowling Green game on DVD and the Buckeyes used that play quite a bit in the second half. Basically the play side tackle and tightend block down sealing off their inside. The fullback blocks the first defender that shows outside the block of the tighend. The key though is the backside guard pulls and leads the ball carrier through the hole where the fulback is also blocking. It's blocked similiar to a counter but there are some small differences. I love that power O play!

CrazyOldGuy
07-14-2004, 10:33 PM
Yes, I'm still a bit high-strung

If you weren't high strung we wouldn't know it was really BTG!!! :D

Geez I don't know maybe you'll have to go really old school and run a lot of T formation like the old Woody Hayes era Buckeyes?

EA please PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE if you are not going to give us a play editor hire Mad Bomber someone who will put in the effort to make the playbooks as realistic as possible. :cool:

rhombic21
07-15-2004, 12:10 AM
Aside from the lack of a power off tackle play, my other gripe with the I formation playbook is that there is only ONE play action pass, and it is designed to get either a FB in the flat, TE on the corner route, or the WR on the drag, none of which are necessarily high return routes. Where is the Play action with the post over the top? Where is the Play action toss with the TE running a 15 yard dig route? Where is the PA counter play with the TE running a medium-short drag, and a WR running a post on top of it, and the other WR running a streak, with everybody else staying in to block.

Plus, you are basically running min protect with only the 5 Olineman dedicated to blocking, so if they blitz it (which most people do to stop the run), there's a high percentage chance that you'll get sacked. That's one of the major flaws with play action on thie game, most of the plays call for both the FB and TE to run routes, which forces you to make quick throws before your WR's get a chance to work downfield. With HFA, it's nearly impossible to hot route in some stadiums, which results in a ton of sacks for the home team. This goes for other routes as well. I played a game earlier today against a guy who was using ND, and blitzing nearly every down. Since I was unable to hot route my back in to block, in really made moving the ball on offense difficult, especially from the shotgun, where the majority of the pass routes involve only having 5 blockers, far too few to deal with the 6 and 7 he was sending every down.

But they've also added some really nice runs too. I really like the new "blast" plays. When you play with a team that has a dominant interior line (Gaurd-Center-Gaurd) it can be deadly. If you can control the DT's, the FB will often demolish the MLB, leaving only the S to make a play. It works kind of like a stiing play. You hit the whole on one side of the center, and then work your way weakside as the blocking allows. If you catch the LB's dropping into a zone, the FB can sometimes drive his man 15 yards downfield, as the HB runs through a MASSIVE hole to daylight.

Bronco
07-15-2004, 12:40 PM
So I'm going through the custom playbooks, right? I like to use the I formation on offense.

The only problem is, in every I formation I've found, there are 3-5 option plays and 1-2 option passes. It's like that in strong and weak formations, too. Basically, I'm wasting 4-7 plays in each playbook.

Did I miss a meeting here? The fact that a team uses those formations doesn't mean they run the option.

Am I just doing something wrong? Are there individualized formation plays like last year?

LOL! Well, if one likes to run the option, this is the year to do it...virtually any formation (empty) will have some form of option capability. So basically, if you're an option guy, this gives you a tremendous flexibility.

But if you're not, well...wasted plays.

blondetom
07-15-2004, 11:52 PM
This is the year the option players been waiting for! (like me) :D. The first thing I did was get rid of West Crap offense that Nebraska was going to run and pull out the old school option!!!! In last year game I would flip back and forth to rice, sc, uab, and U of Wake F. playbook to match my team talents. now this year in 05 I don't have to do that now with custom playbooks. Plus in 04 you had to look for every and hell to find a option base formations now you don't THINK GOD!. the only thing now I got to get used to is the new flexbone formation with the closer fb play. I like it better in the older games the way the FB was lined up. It gave a little me time to set up the dive. now the fb is so close you have to have some damn quick finger and think more quicker. Also I read other forum posts and they are *****ing about uniforms and ***** that I and I say everyone else really don't care and who in the blue hell is crying about nebraska helments who cares they look fine.

John

mad_bomber
07-16-2004, 01:23 AM
I for one didn't care for the old flexbone formation with the fullback being aligned as if he was a halfback. I usually just subbed out the fullback for a faster halback. Now the fullback plays are more viable and quick hitting as he's in a proper alignment for that formation.

BigsbY
07-16-2004, 02:28 AM
I for one didn't care for the old flexbone formation with the fullback being aligned as if he was a halfback. I usually just subbed out the fullback for a faster halback. Now the fullback plays are more viable and quick hitting as he's in a proper alignment for that formation.

I did the same thing whenever i used flexbone never really wanted a FB there