PDA

View Full Version : Could This Be A Possible Solution For Dropped Passes?



mad_bomber
07-19-2004, 09:34 PM
This was posted by derick76 at Madden Mania's NCAA forum.


My team dropped most of the passes thrown until I realized that if you press the (Y) button on the XBOX controller even though you are not in control of the player he will catch the ball a lot more than he did before. I test this in practice using several different plays. I threw ten passes without pressing the (Y) button at the time of the catch my receiver caught 3 passes. Using the same play I threw ten more times pressing the (Y) button each time and the receiver caught 7 of 10 passes thown to him. Try this out and it may keep you from giving up on a great game. Now crazy tips I can't help ya there. Hope this helps others it seems to work for me.

Drop Passes No More? (http://www.maddenmania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55496&page=1)

I'm sure some of you have seen this already and use it, but I'd like to get the opinions of the posters who frequent our forums. Have you tried this? What kind of success are you having?

orlandoPace
07-19-2004, 10:22 PM
wow, that is valuable information if it really works, im probably gonna try it tomorrow and see if it works, i think it might because even if you dont manually control your receivers the user controlled icon switches to your receiver a split second before he catches the ball. i noticed this during last years game too but never thought of pushing y to catch it.

i wonder if it says user catch, probably not.

BigsbY
07-19-2004, 10:24 PM
i noticed that awhile ago but i totally forgot bout it

sandman
07-19-2004, 10:39 PM
What I want to know is, does this supposed solution only work for the xbox? I will go try this on the PS2 very soon.

TrojanNole
07-19-2004, 10:40 PM
On the Playstation would this be the triangle button? I think so, there are still some minor hidden controls somewhere in this game I'm sure.

I will try this out tonight also, and let everyone know tomorrow.

mad_bomber
07-19-2004, 10:54 PM
It seems to work very good on both versions. For the XBOX use the Y button and for the PS2 use the Triangle button. I just finished testing it out on both versions and I've noticed the receivers catch everything when they're wide open. Even the passes to the running backs in the flat are being completed. The defense still however reacts very quickly to your throws, but at least the receivers aren't dropping wide open passes.

McMadden
07-19-2004, 11:42 PM
It seems to work very good on both versions. For the XBOX use the Y button and for the PS2 use the Triangle button. I just finished testing it out on both versions and I've noticed the receivers catch everything when they're wide open. Even the passes to the running backs in the flat are being completed. The defense still however reacts very quickly to your throws, but at least the receivers aren't dropping wide open passes.

Mad-Bomber, do you still see a need to control a player prior to going for the pass, wheather you are on offense or defense? Is this a programming flaw?

mad_bomber
07-20-2004, 12:30 AM
Out of habit I still control the receiver on the deep throws, but as many have stated this seems to work very well on the quicker throws where sometimes trying to control the receiver throws off the timing of his route. Just for kicks, I went back and checked if this worked in NCAA 2003 and 2004, so far it has.

McMadden
07-20-2004, 12:33 AM
Out of habit I still control the receiver on the deep throws, but as many have stated this seems to work very well on the quicker throws where sometimes trying to control the receiver throws off the timing of his route. Just for kicks, I went back and checked if this worked in NCAA 2003 and 2004, so far it has.

WOW! :eek:

Equalizer
07-20-2004, 12:43 AM
Why would EA not let us know about this??? I just tried it, 10 times with,... 8-10, 10 times without... 5-10, 10 times with, 8-10....It at least APPEARS to make a diff.... Can't wait to try in a game.

BamaGrad
07-20-2004, 02:14 AM
I've been trying this and also conclude that it does make a differnce.... though it's still tough for me to hit the button fast enough on short throws.

cant-stop-ricky
07-20-2004, 02:42 AM
wen do u guys hit the triangle/y button? rite as he is catching it or netime while balls n the air?

mad_bomber
07-20-2004, 03:39 AM
I've been hitting it right as he catches it. Give it a shot in practice mode.

PhilIvy16
07-20-2004, 04:13 AM
This may save my offense...or at least revive it a little until a few weeks of filmroom or the VP. I used it online tonight and for once I was completing the underneath curls and hitches, and catching the dig routes right in stride. I was 8 for 11 before someone double glitched or whatever you call it giving me a loss and disconnect yet again. Oh well. :rolleyes:

Kiloton
07-20-2004, 06:38 AM
Can't wait to try this out on 2005...This info. could be a life saver for all who purchased NCAA 05'... Shhhhh! Let's keep this info to ourselves.... :D

Ty to the original poster nice work....


Thx
:cool:

mad_bomber
07-20-2004, 06:53 AM
This may save my offense...or at least revive it a little until a few weeks of filmroom or the VP. I used it online tonight and for once I was completing the underneath curls and hitches, and catching the dig routes right in stride. I was 8 for 11 before someone double glitched or whatever you call it giving me a loss and disconnect yet again. Oh well. :rolleyes:

I'm glad to hear your passing game stats improved. This bit of info is a game saver for my friends. They were all but prepared to toss NCAA 2005 aside waiting for the release of Madden :( .

TrojanNole
07-20-2004, 09:26 AM
Your right, Bomber it does work, I have had no passing game at all with 05, last night vs Texas I had over 300 yds passing! Can u believe that!


Rix was 9-11 passing, even Xaiver Lee had two complete passes, 2-2!

Someone is going to call me cheesy for hitting the triangle button to catch the ball? LOL :D

djwill13
07-20-2004, 10:11 AM
oh yes, manually catching is far better than just letting the cpu do it.

for you inexperienced guys try deep routes first. it takes timing, you have to know when to speed up, how to position the WR and when to press triangle

sandman
07-20-2004, 10:17 AM
Another question I have is that for this trick to work, do you have to be controlling the receive or can it work when its CPU controlled?

djwill13
07-20-2004, 10:20 AM
you mean like the jetpack for madden? i haven't tried it yet, just been working on manually catching it. i'll have to look into it tonight

as soon as i throw the ball i click on the WR i'm throwing to and then i run to the yellow thing on the screen and press triangle

mad_bomber
07-20-2004, 10:51 AM
Another question I have is that for this trick to work, do you have to be controlling the receive or can it work when its CPU controlled?

I think the idea is to press the catch button without taking control of the receiver. It's different from the regular manual catch where you take control of the receiver first and then press the catch button. I'm finishing up working on the passing game section of the virtual playbook and I went back and added a little blurb about this. We're only talking maybe a few sentences.

TrojanNole
07-20-2004, 11:08 AM
Bomber, what do u play more with NCAA, the XBOX or PS2? I know most of the screen shots come from cause its just looks better. But, what do u usually play on?

kbell97
07-20-2004, 11:15 AM
I have been manually catching and taking contol of the reciever, I never tried hitting the catch button without taking control of the reciever.

mad_bomber
07-20-2004, 12:09 PM
Bomber, what do u play more with NCAA, the XBOX or PS2? I know most of the screen shots come from cause its just looks better. But, what do u usually play on?

As of now I mostly play on the XBOX, but I do play the PS2 version. It was a tough sell convincing me on the XBOX but I do feel the game looks better on that version. Is it me or do the playing surfaces look pretty bad in general in NCAA 2005?. The grass fields in particular look as if there was an oil tanker accident nearby that allowed some of the oil on to the field.

sandman
07-20-2004, 12:12 PM
I think though that the articificial turf in some stadiums looks horrible. I have tried pressing triangle without controlling the receiver and it seems to work. My hb is now catching passes out of the flats and my receivers are cathcing curls.

Warologist
07-20-2004, 01:05 PM
The problem I am having is that the QB misses the throw all together when i try to throw the hitch or the curl. Would hitting triangle make the receiver adjust to the typically poor throw? Help a brother out here.

cant-stop-ricky
07-20-2004, 01:39 PM
ok sry i am a dumb *** but i still dont get it if u hit triangle wen hes catching the ball wouldnt he just hurdle ?

blackpowdereer
07-20-2004, 02:07 PM
It works just fine in Practice....but in a game it doesn't seem to help. Now if you can give me a hack to stop the DB's from being able to jump 10 feet in the air and knock a pass down....or stop the CB's from being able to cover 40 yards in the time it takes for a ball to be thrown, then you might have something.

Personally I'm about sick of it....I will probably put this useless game down and just go back to 2004 and then wait for Madden to come out. I guess it only makes sense, though....how can we expect a bunch of computer nerds to understand the subtleties of defensive backfield play? So they jump from one extreme in passing (2004) to the other extreme (2005). Maybe by 2006 they will figure it out. Although I doubt it.

K Freeman
07-20-2004, 02:13 PM
I started using it on the RB flares since even the best RB's were dropping to many of them while they were wide open. It was too hard to take control of a player that you cant see until the last minute. This has worked wonders for me especially on screens. :D

kbell97
07-20-2004, 02:24 PM
I run a lot of screens, and this could be a big help to me.

cant-stop-ricky
07-20-2004, 03:27 PM
I just played a guy who ran lots of zones so wat i did is take young (87 speed) rolled out towards the wide side of the field an came up towards the line ,where i had i guy running a drag the cb would bite on the qb scramble leaving my wr wide open after a few of these my guys catch rating was +8 over his normal after doin this he dropped no passes the whole gm.

mdhiggin
07-20-2004, 03:41 PM
I have been a long time reader but have never posted. I have always done this out of ignorance I guess (not a very good player and never played online)and it has always worked very well. I know that it works because when I play with a buddy of mine and I am the QB and he is the receiver it doesn't work. If I throw to someone he is not controlling and push 'Y' the ball justs bounces off the receiver but if he pushes 'Y' the catch will be made. It also works well for the DBs when the QB throws the ball. I get a lot of interceptions this way. As soon as the QB lets go of the ball I use the 'Y' button (Xbox) and I end up getting more interceptions than if I don't use the y button.

mone
07-20-2004, 05:24 PM
Geez where have you guys been????Im shocked to see the number of cats on here who cant or dont manually catch their passes....Seems strange to throw the ball and watch the computer catch it..Start with the deep passes and soon you will be catchin all of them...If anyone wants to play me Ill give you a clean game...MMmone..BTW..dont even think about picking up Madden 05 til you learn to catch the ball yourself..

blackpowdereer
07-20-2004, 08:13 PM
Mone...if you reread the post you will see it is NOT about user catching. It's about a game glitch that increases the possilbility of the reciever catching the ball WITHOUT user catching.

PhilIvy16
07-20-2004, 08:33 PM
The cool thing is not telling someone who continues to drop passes, and listening to them yell and scream at the recievers on the mic. :p

nikP
07-20-2004, 08:41 PM
This works in Madden (i dont have NCAA yet)....and i thought everyone knew it. And its no glitch....it IS user catching. Im talking PS2 here, but take a look at your manual and the one and only description for the Triangle button as far as RECIEVING goes....all it says is "jump for pass', no where does it say you have to hit X first to take control of the reciever before it works. If you wanna run and position your reciever first,,,yeah you need the X to take control more in advance...but to me its (and i saw someone else say this too) that you get control of the reciever a split second before or at the moment the ball is touchable as the pass hits him WITHOUT hitting X and pressing the triangle at that right moment is the same as the x-y move most of you are thinking of..... For anyone who doubts this,,,try it,,,,if youve ever played a person oline who seemed to catch EVERYTHING and wasnt jetpacking and such while you were dropping everything and getting frustrated..this is why trust me

mone
07-20-2004, 09:20 PM
Hmmm..Sounds downright believable too..I bet its true... :eek:

Farmer
07-20-2004, 10:39 PM
Mone, Nik;
Thanks for thr positive input guys. We all appreciate it.