I Miss the Good Ol' Days

[I OU aBeatn]

Am I the only one? It just seems this year is so dull compared to last gen. On last gen, there was ALWAYS something going on. Some of my fondest memories are on last gen are the VG vs Utopia tournament that we had, the Race for the Heisman League that had more drama than a soap opera, etc..

The fights about Awn running HB Direct, the huge fight between DJ and myself, and all the games I played against you guys. I remember HH in particular, because I logged about 30 games with him over the years. Where's BrnOnaMtn? Easily one of the most enjoyable people to play. It just seems like there was so much competition on last gen than there is on current gen now. Partially because people are split by PS3/360, and partially because a lot of people don't even play this game anymore.

Ahh, I digress. Anyone else miss the old days?

[HcopenhagenH]

The PS2 days were fun and competitive.

The Next Generation Days are very non-competitive. Is it just me, or do people on Next Generation online just suck at NCAA? I have played high rankers and low rankers and none of them are very good.

In the PS2 days my goal was to get 200 wins before I got 100 losses. My goal now is to get 400 wins before I get 100 losses. Problem is, I won't play that many games because when COD5 comes out I am done with this game with exception to the online dynasties.

Honestly though, this game is so easy a caveman can do it.

[I OU aBeatn]

Is it just me, or do people on Next Generation online just suck at NCAA?

Without a doubt.

[ZachArt002]

People spread out, that's all. No one played NCAA on the regular XBox.

[M-Dub?]

JJ,
What PSN are you using these days? I haven't seen you on in a coon's age...

[***LEGEND***]

The PS2 days were fun and competitive.

The Next Generation Days are very non-competitive. Is it just me, or do people on Next Generation online just suck at NCAA? I have played high rankers and low rankers and none of them are very good.



I wasn't around so I don't know, so here's my take. I think you had some dedicated gamers back in the day and it was a small well rounded circle. But as with everything word of mouth brings a lot of new people into the mix. I had Madden 06 and even NCAA07, but didn't know anything about online play. I never played those games because I never had anyone to play. Plus I wasn't a gamer, so anything could pull me away from a game. I think with all the TV stuff and Madden nation that I started watching, it made me want to look deeper into the game.

So, like myself you have an influx of noobs and some don't care about making a game of it, they only care about winning and will try anything including glitching to win. I think the noobs and the different systems like PS3/360 plus life in general have led to a lot of different ppl playing this game than the well rounded group that did before.

just my.02 cents

[I OU aBeatn]

JJ,
What PSN are you using these days? I haven't seen you on in a coon's age...

It's the same. I've been playing on the 360 the past few months. Sold NCAA '09 for PS3 and I got burned out on MGS and Resistance. I'll be firing my PS3 back up when Resistance 2 is released.

[We Miami]

lots of valid points in this thread. the cheez has gotten even sillier on my match games. have the jerks ask me for a friendly quit if I start beating them with sim play.

[***LEGEND***]

You know what's funny?

I play guys sometimes and I just get turned off instantly by the way they play, so I'll ask for a friendly quit before anyone scores. They always refuse, but a few minutes later after I'm up usually by 14 or more, they'll ask for a friendly quit:rolleyes:

Of course now I refuse:D

They pause and quit instantly!

I've had guys quit right before half time, it's like they just refuse to concede they rather get the DNF and loss than concede.:confused:

[M-Dub?]

You know what's funny?

I play guys sometimes and I just get turned off instantly by the way they play, so I'll ask for a friendly quit before anyone scores. They always refuse, but a few minutes later after I'm up usually by 14 or more, they'll ask for a friendly quit:rolleyes:

Of course now I refuse:D

They pause and quit instantly!

I've had guys quit right before half time, it's like they just refuse to concede they rather get the DNF and loss than concede.:confused:

Heh. I had a guy quit on me with 0:00 on the clock. He was a Top 1000 guy, so I can see being frustrated getting beaten by a scrub, but if you played the whole game, why ruin your DNF?

[***LEGEND***]

Heh. I had a guy quit on me with 0:00 on the clock. He was a Top 1000 guy, so I can see being frustrated getting beaten by a scrub, but if you played the whole game, why ruin your DNF?


I was playing a guy he was a level 27 I can't remember his name, but he played almost the entire game and I was surprised I was actually beating him so easily. He and I talked up until about .03 seconds left he said ohh well I guess you beat me?

I said it was a good game and I was lucky.

He instantly disconnected and the game froze with .03 seconds on the clock. It asked did I want to play against the cpu etc.. but it was frozen, so I couldn't pick anything. Long story short...It gave me the loss and a DNF:confused:

It froze everything I had to power off my Xbox and everything.

[djwill13]

You know what's funny?

I play guys sometimes and I just get turned off instantly by the way they play, so I'll ask for a friendly quit before anyone scores. They always refuse, but a few minutes later after I'm up usually by 14 or more, they'll ask for a friendly quit:rolleyes:

Of course now I refuse:D

They pause and quit instantly!

I've had guys quit right before half time, it's like they just refuse to concede they rather get the DNF and loss than concede.:confused:

See my other thread about being up 21-0. Gets aggravating as hell. I do miss the old days. You guys used to , key word is USED to get blown out by you guys.

I can still remember specific games I've played against you guys like the 1st game when me and heavy played where he used his "run playbook" and demolished me. Or the 1st game he and I played on 06 (GA vs FL St). Where is Born?

[HcopenhagenH]

I wasn't around so I don't know, so here's my take. I think you had some dedicated gamers back in the day and it was a small well rounded circle. But as with everything word of mouth brings a lot of new people into the mix. I had Madden 06 and even NCAA07, but didn't know anything about online play. I never played those games because I never had anyone to play. Plus I wasn't a gamer, so anything could pull me away from a game. I think with all the TV stuff and Madden nation that I started watching, it made me want to look deeper into the game.

So, like myself you have an influx of noobs and some don't care about making a game of it, they only care about winning and will try anything including glitching to win. I think the noobs and the different systems like PS3/360 plus life in general have led to a lot of different ppl playing this game than the well rounded group that did before.

just my.02 cents

You are wrong.

Back in the day there were more glitches and such.

I don't know if dedicated is the word. I just know that the people playing the game now, for the most part, SUCK!!! They have a lack of stick skill. They are one or two play wonders that have ZERO football knowledge. They can't read defenses at ALL. They have NO concept of what the AI is trying to do. I can go on and on.

I don't think people now really care about winning. If they did they would hit the lab to understand the game.

A typical game for me goes like this. Opponent comes out and runs on first down and is stopped. Second down they run a variety plays to the flat which is batted down or intercepted. Third down they throw deep and I pick it off or swat it down.

40% of the games I play are against run and PA passes.
40% of the games I play are against people the A) Try to throw screens and passes to the flats. or B) Scramble and Chuck.
20% Other

[blueweeds]

so far i havent been interested enough by this game to spend the time needed to get better.,.... i play out of habit now i used to play out of addiction...lol

[***LEGEND***]

I just know that the people playing the game now, for the most part, SUCK!!! They have a lack of stick skill. They are one or two play wonders that have ZERO football knowledge. They can't read defenses at ALL. They have NO concept of what the AI is trying to do. I can go on and on.

I don't think people now really care about winning. If they did they would hit the lab to understand the game.




This is why I think I'm pretty close to the truth. Dedicated...people who cared more about playing straight up. Since you said there were more glitches around back then. People who had actual skill and didn't need to glitch. Noobs... people new to the scene want to be a part of it, but are well behind in the skill column, so they take short cuts to try and make up. I felt like that when I came aboard, but I don't believe in cheating I rather never win than win by cheating.

It's tough when you are new to something and trying to compete and you play people that have played for yrs. Some players have no mercy on people that are not as good as they are. I've had guys run up the score on me onside kick every time they score etc... Trying to lab by yourself only gets you so far not everyone has friends into what they're into. I only got good because of higher level guys talking to me explaining stuff about the game. Not all high level guys are willing to help, thus helping to keep stuff the way it is.

In the short time I've been playing I've noticed there are a lot more kids playing. I don't mean teenagers but preteens so cheats and glitches are part of their playing, they see nothing wrong with it. They feel this is equivalent to skill, they know something that you can't stop. Why do you think some even threaten to glitch you, if you don't friendly quit?

I played a guy who was 70-20 when we played about a month and a half ago. His entire game was screen to the wide side... screen left ~ screen right the whole game. When I stopped him and picked off three in a row two for pick six he quit. But i was stopping him and he was going three and out and still never changed screen left ~ screen right.:confused:

[kcdeE]

Well, I never played on PS2 and I've only been here for 2 years.

But one thing I have noticed, is the lack of detailed offensive and defensive schemes.. For instance, way back when the Run and Shoot thread was popular, the Air Raid thread was always popular.. On the defensive end, blitz techniques were insanely popular. Besides Chomp's flexbone, I have to go into the Madden section to get any useful information anymore.

Now, only threads I see are people pointing something out in the game that's flawed.

Sad.. :(

[HcopenhagenH]

Well, I never played on PS2 and I've only been here for 2 years.

But one thing I have noticed, is the lack of detailed offensive and defensive schemes.. For instance, way back when the Run and Shoot thread was popular, the Air Raid thread was always popular.. On the defensive end, blitz techniques were insanely popular. Besides Chomp's flexbone, I have to go into the Madden section to get any useful information anymore.

Now, only threads I see are people pointing something out in the game that's flawed.

Sad.. :(

Well, every year since 2004 the game has been a joke.

No offense, but the flexbone is a joke offense on this game. I don't even read that thread because I know it will become a flame fest. I understand that people run it because they like the offense. It is a great offense. I used to coach the wing-t in high school and appreciate that offense and the complexities. However, a moron could run the felxbone on the NCAA series. It certainly doesn't take a brain surgeon because of the defensive AI flaws.

[***LEGEND***]

Well, every year since 2004 the game has been a joke.

No offense, but the flexbone is a joke offense on this game. I don't even read that thread because I know it will become a flame fest. I understand that people run it because they like the offense. It is a great offense. I used to coach the wing-t in high school and appreciate that offense and the complexities. However, a moron could run the felxbone on the NCAA series. It certainly doesn't take a brain surgeon because of the defensive AI flaws.

Not trying to cause a flame war, but is there anything you like about this game?

If not, why do you still play it or post here on the forum?

I read you constantly ripping everything about the game "it's so easy a caveman can do it, it's so easy it takes no skill what so ever to do this or that".

If you have a influx of new people playing stuff like this is bound to happen. Everyone is not going to come in with your skill or knowledge. I for the longest thought I had skill cause I could beat anyone I played on Play station on madden or ncaa. Then came me playing online I didn't even know half of half the stuff I know now before then. If you're playing people that don't know, guess what?

You won't know either! I ran the routes in the game didn't really know or understand about hot routes. It takes time you didn't learn everything you know overnight, so why expect others to come here and be on a certain skill level or so advanced? I think I'm someone that came a long way in a short amount of time, I don't expect everyone to learn as fast as I did.

I'm not trying to start a war with you, but you just seem so negative about everything with the game.

[M-Dub?]

Pssst. That's just his message board persona. Heavy is the resident pessimist/sh¡t-stirrer. He really does like this game, and he's usually more than happy to talk strategy via PM, but his role on the boards is to continually remind us how terrible we all know this game is in our heart of hearts (or at least when we lose).

[gainersfuel]

Not trying to cause a flame war, but is there anything you like about this game?

If not, why do you still play it or post here on the forum?

I read you constantly ripping everything about the game "it's so easy a caveman can do it, it's so easy it takes no skill what so ever to do this or that".

If you have a influx of new people playing stuff like this is bound to happen. Everyone is not going to come in with your skill or knowledge. I for the longest thought I had skill cause I could beat anyone I played on Play station on madden or ncaa. Then came me playing online I didn't even know half of half the stuff I know now before then. If you're playing people that don't know, guess what?

You won't know either! I ran the routes in the game didn't really know or understand about hot routes. It takes time you didn't learn everything you know overnight, so why expect others to come here and be on a certain skill level or so advanced? I think I'm someone that came a long way in a short amount of time, I don't expect everyone to learn as fast as I did.

I'm not trying to start a war with you, but you just seem so negative about everything with the game.


u just have to learn and ignore this guy. you will in time. he's always right and you are always wrong. it gets that way when you get to be his age. he is like 50 years old. plus he's an fsu fan. so life must suck right now.

[HcopenhagenH]

Pssst. That's just his message board persona. Heavy is the resident pessimist/sh¡t-stirrer. He really does like this game, and he's usually more than happy to talk strategy via PM, but his role on the boards is to continually remind us how terrible we all know this game is in our heart of hearts (or at least when we lose).

Listen to this guy.

[HcopenhagenH]

u just have to learn and ignore this guy. you will in time. he's always right and you are always wrong. it gets that way when you get to be his age. he is like 50 years old. plus he's an fsu fan. so life must suck right now.


This guy hates me because he has NEVER BEATEN ME!!! When he chose his next-Gen system he chose PS3 because he new I had the 360. He chose the PS3 just so he wouldn't have to play me!!!!

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha.... I OWN GAMERS FOOL!!!!

[gainersfuel]

This guy hates me because he has NEVER BEATEN ME!!! When he chose his next-Gen system he chose PS3 because he new I had the 360. He chose the PS3 just so he wouldn't have to play me!!!!

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha.... I OWN GAMERS FOOL!!!!


get over yourself. u speak like we've played 30 games vs each other. we've played like 3 times since ncaa 05.. and one of those was a 66-21 beat down.. to put that in fuel terms. i knocked you the **** out.

[HcopenhagenH]

get over yourself. u speak like we've played 30 games vs each other. we've played like 3 times since ncaa 05.. and one of those was a 66-21 beat down.. to put that in fuel terms. i knocked you the **** out.

:rolleyes: You must be borrowing some of Blueweed's weed.

[blueweeds]

:rolleyes: You must be borrowing some of Blueweed's weed.


puff puff .... puff pass........

[HookemHorns]

I know for myself I just don't play enough or even care enough to get good at this game. I play in my online dynasty which is up to 3 times a week. I don't even put the game in my PS3 outside of that.

I remember back in the day I would do nothing but play NCAA, 5-10 games a day online. Be it because I now have a wife and kid or because the game has gone down hill, I just don't play it anymore. Atleast not like I used to.

[djwill13]

I STILL remember gamers' fake punt on me.............I STILL get heated about that one lol.

Oh yeah, and M-DUB giving me my first loss online lol.

[TONY 4 MVP]

I remember when we were doing the draft for the 1st league around here , we had like 60 people in it. I had the 30th pick I think and I thought for sure that id get WVU , then the dude right before me picks them. I was pissed.

[HcopenhagenH]

I remember when we were doing the draft for the 1st league around here , we had like 60 people in it. I had the 30th pick I think and I thought for sure that id get WVU , then the dude right before me picks them. I was pissed.

You would've been better off picking USF (Mountaineer Killer), Colorado, or ECU anyhow.

[TONY 4 MVP]

You would've been better off picking USF (Mountaineer Killer), Colorado, or ECU anyhow.

Well I guess Pitt is the Bull killer then. Man I wish the Big East didnt suck so bad.lol

[HcopenhagenH]

Well I guess Pitt is the Bull killer then. Man I wish the Big East didnt suck so bad.lol

I don't know if it is as much as sucking as it is parity. Everyone seems to be so even today. Makes even more sense for a playoff.