***Official Election Thread***

[Nevada_Ballin]

In an effort not to innundate the Sports Bar with a bizillion election threads as the night goes on, try to post election comments in here everyone.



Interesting to see Obama with a big early lead in Florida... but it's early.

[ATM]

Hey NB, if you can merge the thread I just made with this thread.

[STICKTHEVICKTIM]

Obama looks to take Vermont and McCain looks to take Kentucky


Obama 3 electoral votes
McCain 8 electoral votes

[miracle]

its crzy already... electoral votes.. 103 to 34... obama....

[bk1998]

Poooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooop

[Keyza Soulsay]

Obama winning NC and Texas so far(!). I think NC will hold up, I think he'll lose Texas. Kay Hagan won NC governor over Elizabeth Dole. Good sign.

[miracle]

it will be a miracle if mcain can win this election....

[bk1998]

Obama winning NC and Texas so far(!). I think NC will hold up, I think he'll lose Texas. Kay Hagan won NC governor over Elizabeth Dole. Good sign.

Governor? Governor?

[Aldogg]

Obama is projected by CNN to win Penn. Obama is also up by a hair in Florida as well, if Obama wins there this election is over IMO.

[QBStokes4]

well i go"you voted for obama today, right?"

she goes "hell no"

i go "y not u scrub"

she goes "cuz i dont want a black hussein president."

i go "is that the only reason"

she goes "yeah, and I dont think its gonna matter who the president is, cuz the US isnt gonna get better in 4 years anyway"


i shook my head and walked away

i almost kicked her in her teeth

[evad04]

well i go"you voted for obama today, right?"

she goes "hell no"

i go "y not u scrub"

she goes "cuz i dont want a black hussein president."

i go "is that the only reason"

she goes "yeah, and I dont think its gonna matter who the president is, cuz the US isnt gonna get better in 4 years anyway"


i shook my head and walked away

i almost kicked her in her teeth
Brother? (10 characters)

[CapnKill]

well i go"you voted for obama today, right?"

she goes "hell no"

i go "y not u scrub"

she goes "cuz i dont want a black hussein president."

i go "is that the only reason"

she goes "yeah, and I dont think its gonna matter who the president is, cuz the US isnt gonna get better in 4 years anyway"


i shook my head and walked away

i almost kicked her in her teeth

Punch that b1tch in her trachea!

Had to do it :)

[HustleManDave]

Capn, your sig sucks BTW.....

[QBStokes4]

Hustleman, your team sucks BTW.....

[A Disciple]

lol, i think it was street or maybe killa that posted up like this exact thread about their mom a few weeks back. lol

[CapnKill]

Capn, your sig sucks BTW.....

Why? It's just Kris Jenkins and an unidentified white man having a little picnic...

[Gtrght77]

Its already over, Looking like the landslide is about to happen.

[Clintastic]

Why? It's just Kris Jenkins and an unidentified white man having a little picnic...

It clearly says Edwards....:p

[CapnKill]

It clearly says Edwards....:p

Oh Edwards?.. Oh gotcha.. Trent Edwards Buffalo Bills Quarterback... isn't it kinda hard to complete a pass from the fettle position? I'm certain that there's a number of issues with his throwing mechanics there....

[BOOBOOSD]

lol, you called your mom a scrub. :p

[conviction]

Its already over, Looking like the landslide is about to happen.

im reserving judgment. much more precincts to come in, again the exit polls are inaccurate so its certainly not over.

[bk1998]

This election's been over for weeks.

Hence the reason I bet $500 on Obama this weekend.

[Aldogg]

174-49 Obama as of now according to CNN's projections.

[Harlem AL]

Why? It's just Kris Jenkins and an unidentified white man having a little picnic...

ahhhhhhhhhhhh:D:D

[miracle]

evertime i read that punch in the trachea... i LOL... its hilarious!

[Dazed N Confuse]

Ohio has gone to Obama. Ugh were in for a long 4 to 8 years!!

[bk1998]

she goes "yeah, and I dont think its gonna matter who the president is, cuz the US isnt gonna get better in 4 years anyway"


QFT. Neither one of these crooks is going to change anything.

[conviction]

Ohio has gone to Obama. Ugh were in for a long 4 to 8 years!!

yep, that pretty much locks it up. i pray he does a good job but im very very skeptical.

[JoeJGibbs]

Ohio has gone to Obama. Ugh were in for a long 4 to 8 years!!

Bwhahahhaha not as long as the last 8 we just went through.. duhhhhhh.

[Dazed N Confuse]

yep, that pretty much locks it up. i pray he does a good job but im very very skeptical.


I here ya... Problem is everything that BOTH parties screwed up with the economy in the last 8 years isn't going to be fixed in 4 to 8.

[Aldogg]

Wow, Obama is killing it. I can't see McCain winning, even if he retakes Florida, which from some of these maps, looks tough as McCain is getting nowhere near the numbers Bush is getting from 4 years ago.

[Dazed N Confuse]

Bwhahahhaha not as long as the last 8 we just went through.. duhhhhhh.


Your entitled to you opinion. :D

[kobe24jets]

well i go"you voted for obama today, right?"

she goes "hell no"

i go "y not u scrub"

she goes "cuz i dont want a black hussein president."

i go "is that the only reason"

she goes "yeah, and I dont think its gonna matter who the president is, cuz the US isnt gonna get better in 4 years anyway"


i shook my head and walked away

i almost kicked her in her teeth
yo moms aint cool

[SUC4Life1116]

I'm impressed how CNN is breaking down the specific counties in the battelground states. Showing how Dubbya did last year and comparing the votes this year makes it that much easier to follow.

[BOOBOOSD]

yo moms aint cool

He has two mothers?

[kobe24jets]

vote obomba

hustle errday

bush hates black ppl

rep yo hood


ya dig

my prezident is black

[miracle]

yah this is a lock......



like champ bailey on bobby wade....

[kobe24jets]

He has two mothers?
idk

i was gonna holla at her

but shawty say she aint votin fo obomba

so i pull out

ya dig

[bearsfan217]

vote obomba

hustle errday

bush hates black ppl

rep yo hood


ya dig

my prezident is black

wow, your a idiot..way to "represent"

[SUC4Life1116]

Damn, dude on CNN for the sake of an arguement gave McCain all of the states except for Cali, Washington, Hawaii and another west coast state and McCain would only get 266 electorals. Not looking good for McCain...

[Clintastic]

idk

i was gonna holla at her

but shawty say she aint votin fo obomba

so i pull out

ya dig


rofl.........

[Dazed N Confuse]

vote obomba

hustle errday

bush hates black ppl

rep yo hood


ya dig

my prezident is black


Are you kidding?

[Aldogg]

I think Cali is 55 electoral votes or something. If McCain doesn't win that state he is all but cooked, seeing how CNN has Obama at 199 and MSNBC has him at 200.

[Dazed N Confuse]

I think Cali is 55 electoral votes or something. If McCain doesn't win that state he is all but cooked, seeing how CNN has Obama at 199 and MSNBC has him at 200.


Yea he is never going to win California lol. No republican does. They could just make that state blue from the get go :D

[SUC4Life1116]

I think Cali is 55 electoral votes or something. If McCain doesn't win that state he is all but cooked, seeing how CNN has Obama at 199 and MSNBC has him at 200.

Yeah, Cali is 55 votes, TX 34. Its probably safe to say that McCain will get my state (TX) and Obama would carry California. I believe the Obama will snag Florida too who has 27 votes I believe.

[whigsplittaz]

Through all the bashes of Obama nobody ever ever said how smart he was to get money for his campaign, using the net and pushing the early votes, using a strategy of going after 1 state (Virginia) and using that as a spring board for other states.

Give the young fellow his props. Will he get taken in by the Washington normal garbage? I hope not, because it's nice to see him think out of the box whether or not its right or wrong.

Lastly they said McCain would be winning if a terrorist threat or something like that happened before the election.

Listen not only are we a free country, we are also one of the most violent nations in the world. We terrorize ourselves and then want to paint Muslims or some radical group of terror. Don't we have murders every single day? In this country we kill off way more that Osama ever did on our own soil.

Let me stop before the Mccain supporters say we don't terrorize our own people.

[QBStokes4]

yeah i called her a scrub

[BluEStorm_47]

Bwhahahhaha not as long as the last 8 we just went through.. duhhhhhh.

I wonder how many people said the exact same thing in 32' when Hoover was voted out...

[KingStyle]

206 - 135

figure 261 with Cali in.......

[SUC4Life1116]

McCain has no SWAG!! His pu*sy *** watching party not even watching the predictions.

[JoeJGibbs]

I wonder how many people said the exact same thing in 32' when Hoover was voted out...

lmao, wow, taking it back to 1932?

:p

[kobe24jets]

McCain has no SWAG!! His pu*sy *** watching party not even watching the predictions.-realtalk-
no 1 on tha corner has swagga like us

[JoeJGibbs]

Kanye: QBStokes' mom, doesn't care about black people.

[jerseyjay14]

record turnout for young voters... a great sign for America.

[BluEStorm_47]

lmao, wow, taking it back to 1932?

:p

Hey...I'm just sayin...lol

[Aldogg]

I think the young voter turnout was because Obama got them involved, using texts and the internet to get his message out.

[QBStokes4]

she doesnt like them

[evad04]

Kanye: QBStokes' mom, doesn't care about black people.

Post of the year. The awkwardness on the face of Mike Myers is unbelievable. "Priceless" doesn't cut it .. it's BEYOND priceless.

[kevin21boston]

punch that b1tch in her trachea!

Had to do it :)

hell yes!!!!!!!!

[A Disciple]

Most of your parents and grandparents can tell you where they were when history was made. (lol, maybe Grandpa Nevada can tell you where HE was. lol, aif)

When Dr. King made the "I Have A Dream" speech.
When man walked on the moon.
When JFK was assassinated.
When Japan attacked Pearl Harbor.
When the Berlin wall came down.
When Hank Aaron hit 715.
etc., etc., etc.

They can tell you where they were. Remember this day everyone. History is being made. One day your son, daughter, grandchild is going to ask you...

"Where were you the day a Black man was elected President of the United States of America?"

[QBStokes4]

i get to say i was surfing a madden forum

[feardaram]

obama is black?

[A Disciple]

obama is black?
Black enough. lol

[CP]

obama is black?

This made me LOL for some reason.

[bk1998]

Only in America can an election be close in popular vote, but a landslide victory in electoral votes.

One vote doesn't even equal one vote. Shameful.

[Aldogg]

Its over. Every news station is projecting Obama to win.

[bk1998]

This election's been over for weeks.

Hence the reason I bet $500 on Obama this weekend.

Easy money.

[Dazed N Confuse]

Only in America can an election be close in popular vote, but a landslide victory in electoral votes.

One vote doesn't even equal one vote. Shameful.


So does your vote really count? Same thing happen with Gore and Bush. Gore was the leader in that one and lost as well.

[QBStokes4]

yayyyy sons

[A Disciple]

wow. all jokes aside, im almost on the verge of tears right now.

[BluEStorm_47]

Well....it seems as if I'm now officially the voice of dissent.

Congrats.

Don't mess up...:D

[nothasoul]

Yesssssssssssssssssssss he did it

[evad04]

hell yes!!!!!!!!

Kevin's identity revealed?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_v9RUE2nrw

[nothasoul]

Tears of joy.

[mightypharaoh]

wow. all jokes aside, im almost on the verge of tears right now.


Indeed my dude. Indeed

[Aldogg]

This is a sight to see on TV. It seems like the whole nation just started celebrating at 11 PM as soon as he was projected to win.

[Harlem AL]

* goes and puts on Jeezy My President Is Black*

[bk1998]

Yay Electoral system.

Yay system that makes the votes of people in certain geographic locations worthless.

Apparently, tonight, the vote of a person in Sandusky, OH is worth more than a vote from nearly everywhere else.

[SUC4Life1116]

wow. all jokes aside, im almost on the verge of tears right now.

Me too bro. Its amazing that Dr. Martin Luther King predicted this in his "Mountain Top" speech. This is amazing!!

[StreetPack]

lol, i think it was street or maybe killa that posted up like this exact thread about their mom a few weeks back. lol


lol, nope wasn't me. I live in Canada lol. However my mom did go on a rant about having a black president. (NOT THAT SHE THINKS ITS WRONG OR ANYTHING). I can't remember what she said... something about it being dangerous for obama or something I dunno.. don't remember lol

[metal]

I can't help but think as I watch people dancing in the streets and all the talk of history but be a bit hesitant.

Everyone seems so happy, I can only hope that Obama fulfills all the change that has been promised.

[A Disciple]

Tears of joy.
me and you both fam. me and you both.

[Aldogg]

McCain called and conceded. There will be no drawn out court battles. Florida and Colorado go Obama as I type this. This was a bloodbath. I never expected this much of a romp from Obama.

[Harlem AL]

Me too bro. Its amazing that Dr. Martin Luther King predicted this in his "Mountain Top" speech. This is amazing!!

Amen....................

[mightypharaoh]

Jesse Jackson is in tears

[dmac2brown46]

ch ch ch ch chyeaaa

[bk1998]

I am VERY IMPRESSED with McCain's "concession" speech. Watch it.

He's obviously been crafting it for some time.

Didn't take rocket science to figure out that he was screwed in the states that meant the most.

[FusionGT]

Insert the KKK in, 5-4-3-2-1...

Oh well, I think if Obama can have half the ideas he has in his mind work out, he'll be a great president. If he doesn't get shot first.

[evad04]

He's obviously been crafting it for some time.

Didn't take rocket science to figure out that he was screwed in the states that meant the most.

Oh. I was under the impression that it was improv. I was WAY off. :rolleyes:

[Aldogg]

Yeah, this has been a good concession speech by McCain. Rather classy since this is the first presidential election I have voted in which there wasn't charges and claims of voter fraud.

[SUC4Life1116]

THANK YOU DR. KING AND ALL OF YOUR COLLEAGUES FOR YOUR HARD WORK. THE BENEFITS HAVE NOW BEEN REAPED FOR MY GENERATION, AND GENERATIONS TO COME. (http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/mlkivebeentothemountaintop.htm)

[bk1998]

Oh. I was under the impression that it was improv. I was WAY off. :rolleyes:

You didn't get the memo? Shocking.

*silly sarcastic smiley here*

Seriously, what did you expect him to say?

"Yeah, this is bullcrap."

-- John McCain

[A Disciple]

I am VERY IMPRESSED with McCain's "concession" speech. Watch it.
agreed. big ups to him. i applaud him for the way he stopped the boos when he spoke of O being Prez.

VERY big of him.

[evad04]

You didn't get the memo? Shocking.

*silly sarcastic smiley here*

Seriously, what did you expect him to say?

"Yeah, this is bullcrap."

-- John McCain

Actually, a part of me would enjoy an honest authentic response from McCain. Something like "I shoulda been president the last eight years ... Damn Rove!" Or just a good "Godamnit!"

[theanalogkid]

Yay Electoral system.

Yay system that makes the votes of people in certain geographic locations worthless.

Apparently, tonight, the vote of a person in Sandusky, OH is worth more than a vote from nearly everywhere else.

Flawed system, yes, but there is no perfect one. Voting by popular vote would just mean candidates would have to campaign in states with large populations, same people would get the shaft.

[bk1998]

Yeah, this has been a good concession speech by McCain. Rather classy since this is the first presidential election I have voted in which there wasn't charges and claims of voter fraud.

Sounded like any other speech from the losing side I've ever heard. Nothing new here. Praise the opponent, tell supporters that you appreciate them, downplay partisan politics.

[Aldogg]

Actually, a part of me would enjoy an honest authentic response from McCain. Something like "I shoulda been president the last eight years ... Damn Rove!" Or just a good "Godamnit!"

I agree. I would have loved if he threw Rove under a bus. But still, a great speech and a great attempt at unifying the country.

[bk1998]

Flawed system, yes, but there is no perfect one. Voting by popular vote would just mean candidates would have to campaign in states with large populations, same people would get the shaft.

Um, no... because one vote cast in one state would be just as important as one vote cast in another.

[bk1998]

Actually, a part of me would enjoy an honest authentic response from McCain. Something like "I shoulda been president the last eight years ... Damn Rove!" Or just a good "Godamnit!"

100% agreed.

Strange.

[theanalogkid]

Um, no... because one vote cast in one state would be just as important as one vote cast in another.

While that may be true, any candidate would just have to campaign in California, Texas, New York, and Florida. Those 4 states would decide the winner every time. Why bother stepping foot in Wyoming, or Montana if there is really nothing to gain from it.

The Electoral College is also suppose to prevent the public from electing morons to the Presidency, since they are not required to vote for the candidate their state prefers. Obviously they failed in 04. :P

[bk1998]

While that may be true, any candidate would just have to campaign in California, Texas, New York, and Florida. Those 4 states would decide the winner every time.

Would this be the case? I dunno. Candidates would spend more time in larger cities, concentrated areas... but I doubt that it would be limited to California, Texas, New York, and Florida when there would be an assload of votes in other metro areas.

[bk1998]

The Electoral College is also suppose to prevent the public from electing morons to the Presidency, since they are not required to vote for the candidate their state prefers. Obviously they failed in 04. :P

haha

Why not just require an IQ test to cast a vote?

[sideoutshu]

Wow. Gotta love the tags on this thread. Obama supporters are classy til the end huh? Sigh.

I have to admit I am kind of excited to see what is going to happen when the magic wand of change and hope is waived over the country. Obama has talked an exceptional game. Now it is time to walk the walk. He will have it FAR easier then past presidents in that he is coming into office with the support of both houses of Congress. No excuses now. Let's see all this "change" come to fruition.

Congrats to the liberals on the forum. I'll be back to ask you how your life has improved in 4 years.

[Dazed N Confuse]

Insert the KKK in, 5-4-3-2-1...

Oh well, I think if Obama can have half the ideas he has in his mind work out, he'll be a great president. If he doesn't get shot first.


Please don't ever think this!! That would be the worst thing that can happen!!

What people really fail too see here is that any president can have many good ideas. If the house votes against the ideas though it will never happen!

All i want is change. Lets see if Obama can win my vote for 2012.

[bk1998]

All i want is change.

Change starts with you.

You want change? Enact it.

[A Disciple]

Wow. Gotta love the tags on this thread. Obama supporters are classy til the end huh? Sigh.

I have to admit I am kind of excited to see what is going to happen when the magic wand of change and hope is waived over the country. Obama has talked an exceptional game. Now it is time to walk the walk. He will have it FAR easier then past presidents in that he is coming into office with the support of both houses of Congress. No excuses now. Let's see all this "change" come to fruition.

Congrats to the liberals on the forum. I'll be back to ask you how your life has improved in 4 years.
lol, just make sure YOU stay outta MY neighborhood while you're rioting. alright playa. ;)

:D

[BOOBOOSD]

Time to pop some Coronas. :D If Obama can do it, a Latino can do it in the future as well!

[Dazed N Confuse]

Change starts with you.

You want change? Enact it.

I do my part. As much as I can. No one can do it alone!!
It's a group effort!

[sideoutshu]

lol, just make sure YOU stay outta MY neighborhood while you're rioting. alright playa. ;)

:D

Even if people like me were inclined to riot, which would NEVER.....EVER happen. I wouldn't have the time. I am too busy pulling my money out of the stock market.

[JoeJGibbs]

Blowout.

CNN Just reported that Obama has also won Jupiter and Italy.

[A Disciple]

Time to pop some Coronas. :D If Obama can do it, a Latino can do it in the future as well!
anything is possible bruh!!! today we all have a reaso to believe.

[bk1998]

I do my part. As much as I can. No one can do it alone!!
It's a group effort!

Good for you Dazed. Seriously, good for you.

Glad to know you're doing all you can.

So much better than the folks who clamor for change from their couch.

[KingStyle]

Even if people like me were inclined to riot, which would NEVER.....EVER happen. I wouldn't have the time. I am too busy pulling my money out of the stock market.

Little late for that. Thank Bush.

[mightypharaoh]

Simply amazing ... I wish my dad was here so I could share this moment with him ... brings me to near tears ... :o


My dude, I talked to my sister today and we both said the same thing

[KingStyle]

Adam Schefter reports that Obama has won the SuperBowl, ProBowl and has the 1st pick in the 2009 NFL draft.......picking himself.

[nothasoul]

Tears of joy

[BOOBOOSD]

lol, love the sig dog.

haha, I know I found it on another forum. :p ***** made me crack when I first saw it.

[mightypharaoh]

Uhh ... we probably agree on a great many things. #1: Chris Farley was hilarious. #2: Beer is delicious. #3: Neither candidate can bring the type of changes necessary to bring about necessary changes. #4: I'm conversationally anal retentive, seeing as I number my arguments.

agreed, it takes about 5 years for major change to occur. And you know the next vote will be extremely difficult

[metal]

Come January, let the work begin Barack. I gave you my vote and i expect you to act on what you said you would do. It doesn't all have to get done but i do want to see you act on it. The top 3 things on my list for why i voted for you:

1. Get rid of the lobbyists
2. Healthcare
3. The economy

Let's get to work.

That's what I said earlier. He has a lot of happy folks that entrusted him, and he has a lot of work to do for them.

[evad04]

My dude, I talked to my sister today and we both said the same thing

You see ... people like sideout would likely diminish these feelings. After all, his father and my father are white. What's the big deal? The big deal is LIVING IT and FEELING IT like you do, ahr and mightypharaoh. The closest thing I can get to it is empathy. I can't actually understand what this moment must feel like. Look at voter turnout. This election meant something to people. Whether it translates into the changes we need or not ... as of right now it feels differently than any election in my [short] lifespan.

[KingStyle]

You really think that? I think he is one of my LEAST favorite SNL guys of all time, along with Chevy Chase. Stuart Smalley might be the least funny character in the history of SNL.

Im doing it just to piss you off. Holla.

[sideoutshu]

You see ... people like sideout would likely diminish these feelings. After all, his father and my father are white. What's the big deal? The big deal is LIVING IT and FEELING IT like you do, ahr and mightypharaoh. The closest thing I can get to it is empathy. I can't actually understand what this moment must feel like. Look at voter turnout. This election meant something to people. Whether it translates into the changes we need or not ... as of right now it feels differently than any election in my [short] lifespan.

You are a real douchebag man.

Something I have always noticed in sports, is that you can tell just as much about someone by the way they take a loss, as the way they act when they win. Way to take the high road bud.....total class. :rolleyes:

[ahr19]

My dude, I talked to my sister today and we both said the same thing

Just amazing ... I am overcome with sadness b/c this shows everyone of all classes, races, genders, etc ... that anything is possible. All we need is a little hope ...

And my dad would always instill that in me - silently and through example ...

[Nevada_Ballin]

Just keep in mind everyone, the work doesn't get done without our help... and some more scarifice by us. But I can't help but feel like we have a President now who understands "our" side of the coin. With that said, let us all take the words "yes we can" and make it:

Yes
We
Did


.

[evad04]

You are a real douchebag man.

Something I have always noticed in sports, is that you can tell just as much about someone by the way they take a loss, as the way they act when they win. Way to take the high road bud.....total class. :rolleyes:

Your history on race related issues speaks for itself. Sorry I pointed it out. ;)

[ATM]

haha, I know I found it on another forum. :p ***** made me crack when I first saw it.

Bill Clinton and JFK should be a shade darker :D

Been celebrating, crying, just all kind of emotions. Not so much for what I think Obama but regardless of what you think of Obama this is truly one of the most historic nights in history. I'm only 19 and I doubt I will be in a moment like this ever again.

[Aaight]

I mean.....man......my mother was VERY active in the community and politics and I just wish that she had lived to see this.

[Nevada_Ballin]

I mean.....man......my mother was VERY active in the community and politics and I just wish that she had lived to see this.

she sees it man, she sees it :)

[SUPDOG]

Just keep in mind everyone, the work doesn't get done without our help... and some more scarifice by us. But I can't help but feel like we have a President now who understands "our" side of the coin. With that said, let us all take the words "yes we can" and make it:

Yes
We
Did


.


How about "yes you're a goofball"? Tacky.

[A Disciple]

I mean.....man......my mother was VERY active in the community and politics and I just wish that she had lived to see this.
you in Chicago right? Pick said that he was AT the rally. hopefully he has some nice pics and vids to post up for us later.

[SUPDOG]

Anyway, remember what I told you.

Christ says, that "the wide road leads to destruction". Obama and the left leaning congress are going to push this country in directions that challenge God's authority. Man will destroy himself by pushing God's boundaries. Obama and his satan friends will go WAY past God's law. If you think God will let it go unpunished you are fooling yourselves. Truth.

You can have you overly emotional cry parties, but the reality is this-- you did nothing more than put a satanic man in the White House.

Freedom of Choice act will likely start it alll.


Remember what I told you.

[metal]

Yay Electoral system.

Yay system that makes the votes of people in certain geographic locations worthless.

Apparently, tonight, the vote of a person in Sandusky, OH is worth more than a vote from nearly everywhere else.

BK,

With all due respect I think you may be missing the broader view of this issue. I understand your frustrations with the voting system that we have in place. IMO, there are many, many flaws with it. However, that's the small picture. The big picture is that we even have a voting system at all.

So while it is flawed, yes. We all need to be thankful for the fact that we at least have it. Many people gave their lives for us to be able to have it. Possibly even someone along your family tree.

There are many other inhabitants of other countries out there that would LOVE to have one insignificant vote that is worth less than their peers in Sandusky, OH.

"You better eat that, there's starving children in Africa..."

While we are allowed to voice our displeasure with the system, we need to be thankful for the fact that we're allowed to have a voice in the first place.

[KingStyle]

Anyway, remember what I told you.

Christ says, that "the wide road leads to destruction". Obama and the left leaning congress are going to push this country in directions that challenge God's authority. Man will destroy himself by pushing God's boundaries. Obama and his satan friends will go WAY past God's law. If you think God will let it go unpunished you are fooling yourselves. Truth.

You can have you overly emotional cry parties, but the reality is this-- you did nothing more than put a satanic man in the White House.

Freedom of Choice act will likely start it alll.


Remember what I told you.

Remember what Im telling you

STFU

[SUPDOG]

Remember what Im telling you

STFU

Nope, didn't work son.....


Bet you my post is a lot more acurate. ;)

[KingStyle]

Nope, didn't work son.....


Bet you my post is a lot more acurate. ;)

Bet it isnt Dorkstradaumus

[Nevada_Ballin]

How about "yes you're a goofball"? Tacky.

How about "If i'm a goofball it's still better than being whatever you are"

Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don't stand in the doorway
Don't block up the hall

For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled

There's a battle outside And it is ragin'.

It'll soon shake your windows And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'.

[Gtrght77]

Yes we Did!!!!!!! :D




Damn that man can give a speech. He is going to be a great president.

[Nevada_Ballin]

waiting on Supdog's new user name... ObamaIsTheDevil maybe....

[Gtrght77]

Only in America can an election be close in popular vote, but a landslide victory in electoral votes.

One vote doesn't even equal one vote. Shameful.

Strange because it looks like a blowout by both the popular vote and electoral vote to me.

[rhythmatic]

awesome. chapel hill is going nuts for obama. its 2AM and people are outside partying in the streets for this guy. as much as i support obama i am pretty satisfied the democrats did not get their 60 senate seats.. that situation seems like too much power for one party.

glad dole got ousted by hagan though.

[A Disciple]

Strange because it looks like a blowout by both the popular vote and electoral vote to me.
lol, and like Gibbs said, he even won Jupiter. :D :D lol

[theanalogkid]

Anyone notice Ted Stevens won his seat, despite being convicted of corruption. First order of business next year is to expel Ted Stevens from the senate.

[theanalogkid]

Anyway, remember what I told you.

Christ says, that "the wide road leads to destruction". Obama and the left leaning congress are going to push this country in directions that challenge God's authority. Man will destroy himself by pushing God's boundaries. Obama and his satan friends will go WAY past God's law. If you think God will let it go unpunished you are fooling yourselves. Truth.

You can have you overly emotional cry parties, but the reality is this-- you did nothing more than put a satanic man in the White House.

Freedom of Choice act will likely start it alll.


Remember what I told you.

I can say with good conscious I didn't vote for either of the two. McCain was fooling himself to think he'd win PA. It's not a battleground state like the media portrays.

[Harlem AL]

BK,

With all due respect I think you may be missing the broader view of this issue. I understand your frustrations with the voting system that we have in place. IMO, there are many, many flaws with it. However, that's the small picture. The big picture is that we even have a voting system at all.

So while it is flawed, yes. We all need to be thankful for the fact that we at least have it. Many people gave their lives for us to be able to have it. Possibly even someone along your family tree.

There are many other inhabitants of other countries out there that would LOVE to have one insignificant vote that is worth less than their peers in Sandusky, OH.

"You better eat that, there's starving children in Africa..."

While we are allowed to voice our displeasure with the system, we need to be thankful for the fact that we're allowed to have a voice in the first place.

Great Post........

[Milwaukee]

Evad vs BK is a pretty funny battle.....you guys always bring a chuckle out with your back and forth

[jerseyjay14]

Yay Electoral system.

Yay system that makes the votes of people in certain geographic locations worthless.

Apparently, tonight, the vote of a person in Sandusky, OH is worth more than a vote from nearly everywhere else.

want some whine with that cheese?

[jerseyjay14]

I can't help but think as I watch people dancing in the streets and all the talk of history but be a bit hesitant.

Everyone seems so happy, I can only hope that Obama fulfills all the change that has been promised.

this isnt possible, and i think(hope) americans realize this. washington isnt a place that is set up for rapid change. alot of it is out of his hands.

[JoeJGibbs]

want some whine with that cheese?

lol yea BK stop cheesin.

[sideoutshu]

this isnt possible, and i think(hope) americans realize this. washington isnt a place that is set up for rapid change. alot of it is out of his hands.
Oh man, the excuses aren't coming already are they? LOL

If alot of Americans realize what can be done in Washington, certainly Obama should have realized it when making his promises. He wouldn't have made promises he couldn't keep would he? There is absolutely nothing standing in his way, he is the first President in recent memory that has entered office in control both houses of Congress. It is time to put up or shut up. There are no excuses AT ALL.

[jerseyjay14]

I am going to be far more upset about tonight if Al Franken wins in Minnesota. What the hell is the world coming to when Al Franken has a legit shot at a Senate seat?

arent these the same people who elected jessie "the mind" ventura? i mean Minnesota has already shown us what they are capable of

[JoeJGibbs]

I don't get it. Who has said Obama is going to change the U.S. with a magic incantation?

[jerseyjay14]

Oh man, the excuses aren't coming already are they? LOL

If alot of Americans realize what can be done in Washington, certainly Obama should have realized it when making his promises. He wouldn't have made promises he couldn't keep would he? There is absolutely nothing standing in his way, he is the first President in recent memory that has entered office in control both houses of Congress. It is time to put up or shut up. There are no excuses AT ALL.

Excuses? i didnt vote for O'bama, and i dont think he will be a very good president. i was just pointing out that anyone who expects change, specificly rapid change, in washington, is setting themselves up for disappointment

[sideoutshu]

arent these the same people who elected jessie "the mind" ventura? i mean Minnesota has already shown us what they are capable of

They are also the only state that voted for Mondale.:rolleyes:

[sanantonio]

Oh man, the excuses aren't coming already are they? LOL

If alot of Americans realize what can be done in Washington, certainly Obama should have realized it when making his promises. He wouldn't have made promises he couldn't keep would he? There is absolutely nothing standing in his way, he is the first President in recent memory that has entered office in control both houses of Congress. It is time to put up or shut up. There are no excuses AT ALL.

You do realize it's SOP (standard operating procedure) to break campaign promises. Look at any past President and find one that didn't and that especially includes GWB.

[sideoutshu]

I don't get it. Who has said Obama is going to change the U.S. with a magic incantation?

Come on now. We have all heard the speeches and the promises. No need to scale back the rhetoric now. Change on day one! right? Just ask this Obama supporter who thinks that Obama is going to put gas in her gcar and pay her mortgage for her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6ikOxi9yYk

[resnor]

I don't get it. Who has said Obama is going to change the U.S. with a magic incantation?

I hope you're kidding. What was the mantra of the Obama campaign? Oh yeah, CHANGE. If he can't effect the change that HE talked about, then they have NO excuses.

Perhaps we can finally put it to rest about how "racist" America is. Black and white are now truly equal.

[sideoutshu]

You do realize it's SOP (standard operating procedure) to break campaign promises. Look at any past President and find one that didn't and that especially includes GWB.

So I guess this is an admission that Obama is a Snake Oil salesman? Wow. Why would you vote for him if you didn't beleive him? Oh wait, silly question:rolleyes:

[Dazed N Confuse]

this isnt possible, and i think(hope) americans realize this. washington isnt a place that is set up for rapid change. alot of it is out of his hands.


As was a lot of it out of Bush's hands as well. Great statement!! A lot of people don't realize that not just the president can make the change. Why don't people get that?

[sideoutshu]

I hope you're kidding. What was the mantra of the Obama campaign? Oh yeah, CHANGE. If he can't effect the change that HE talked about, then they have NO excuses.

Perhaps we can finally put it to rest about how "racist" America is. Black and white are now truly equal.

Yup.....no more excuses for ANYONE.

[sanantonio]

So I guess this is an admission that Obama is a Snake Oil salesman? Wow. Why would you vote for him if you didn't beleive him? Oh wait, silly question:rolleyes:

Your still an idiot because you have no idea who I voted for and I was just pointing out the reality of campaign promises by past Presidents. You can ignore it if you want but it's out there for everyone to examine.

[Warbuck$]

Oh man, the excuses aren't coming already are they? LOL

If alot of Americans realize what can be done in Washington, certainly Obama should have realized it when making his promises. He wouldn't have made promises he couldn't keep would he? There is absolutely nothing standing in his way, he is the first President in recent memory that has entered office in control both houses of Congress. It is time to put up or shut up. There are no excuses AT ALL.

All candidates make absurd promises they don't intend on keeping. They pander to their constituents. There is no way a socialized healthcare system will be implemented in his first term and I'd go so far as to say it won't be implemented at all. But, it sounds good because people love free stuff, so they're in favor of it.

[sideoutshu]

Your still an idiot because you have no idea who I voted for and I was just pointing out the reality of campaign promises by past Presidents. You can ignore it if you want but it's out there for everyone to examine.

Irony alert!.......lol......I really love these.

Call someone an idiot in the same sentence where you use "your" instead of "you're"......classic!:D

[resnor]

You mean like you rode Bush?:rolleyes:

How does Bush compare to Obama? I don't recall Bush making tons of promises like Obama. Bush had 9/11, and the War on Terror, that really set the tone for his Presidency. If not for the war on Terror, we wouldn't be borrowing all the money that we've been borrowing. Bush has made mistakes, for sure. I think, however, that much of the hatred sent his way is irrational, and undeserved.

Anyway, the REASON that I will ride Obama, is because he made incredible promises, and he now pretty much has nothing in the Congress to stand in his way. If he can't do what he wants to do when he takes office, there are NO excuses. There won't be any blaming Republicans (like they did with the housing crisis). When the policies that get passed fail miserably, there will be no one to blame, but Obama and the Democrats.

[JoeJGibbs]

Come on now. We have all heard the speeches and the promises. No need to scale back the rhetoric now. Change on day one! right? Just ask this Obama supporter who thinks that Obama is going to put gas in her gcar and pay her mortgage for her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6ikOxi9yYk


I think you're missing the idea when it comes to change.
I think its more of a mentality of being a U.S. Citizen and dealing with our current administration more than anything else. This election has a completely different feel to it man. Nothing like I have ever witnessed or been a part of. Just watching Chicago last night made me proud - not only as an African-American, but as a young, U.S. voter and citizen. Whoever the next President would've been wouldn't be able to immediately change our financial crisis. It took 8 years for us to get in this hell. It'll take years before we're able to get out.

The results of the election were pretty symbolic of what people are excited about when it comes to change.

The young black guy defeats the old white war hero? That's unhearalded. It seems like something from a tv show or a sappy Disney movie. That's change. Yes, Obama got the black vote, but what democrat doesn't get the black vote? Obama, got votes from different races, creeds, genders, and ages. That's change. It took all kinds of people coming together instead of the us vs them mentality.

In retrospect, I think McCain was fighting an uphill battle and walking with an elephant on his back.
* 90% voting with Bush
* current economic crisis
* Bush's last 8 years
* Palin's ineptitude

Whoever was his campaign manager should be excommunicated to Jupiter; where Obama won 57% of the vote. :p
Maybe this election will be a building block for future elections. One can only hope.

60 years from now when 2 women are running for President I can look back and say, "I remember when this would never have been thought possible."

Obama to me represents change in government ideals. Hopefully, that will be the case. I think people understand that it won't be overnight. But I think people understand that this is something that needed to happen for our country to be united and go forward as a people.

People know what George Bush has accomplished. People know what Republicans have accomplished. America spoke on Nov 4th and said they wanted.....change.

I'm JoeJGibbs and I approve this message.

[sanantonio]

How does Bush compare to Obama? I don't recall Bush making tons of promises like Obama. Bush had 9/11, and the War on Terror, that really set the tone for his Presidency. If not for the war on Terror, we wouldn't be borrowing all the money that we've been borrowing. Bush has made mistakes, for sure. I think, however, that much of the hatred sent his way is irrational, and undeserved.

Anyway, the REASON that I will ride Obama, is because he made incredible promises, and he now pretty much has nothing in the Congress to stand in his way. If he can't do what he wants to do when he takes office, there are NO excuses. There won't be any blaming Republicans (like they did with the housing crisis). When the policies that get passed fail miserably, there will be no one to blame, but Obama and the Democrats.

Bush like all past presidents on the campaign trail made tons of promises that were not kept. Granted Bush had 9/11 but his so called war on terror in Iraq can and will be argued through out history as a failed endeavor by most Americans. Contrary to the rights belief his legacy will suffer for it.

If you want I can post a few of Georgi Porgi's failed promises. :p

[JoeJGibbs]

Why are people so bitter about this? It's time to come together.

[Paydirt404]

Why are people so bitter about this? It's time to come together.

You cant reason with them, just let them be salty.

They will always make excuses for Bush and give him a pass, Obama will never good enough, its at the point where no one cares what the critics think. Its a day of celebration. From Auburn Ave - Atlanta, Georgia (the tomb of Dr. Martin Luther King) to the roads of Kenya, Africa all the way to the stock markets in Japan, the world rejoices.

I woke up today running....yes we can! All aboard!!!!

[Gotti]

Why are people so bitter about this? It's time to come together.
unfortunately, imo thats a LONG way off. look no further than the conversations on this forum for evidence that the majority of people in this country do not seem to have the ability respect another's opinion. unless of course they agree on the subject. and that's all politics is, opinions. there is no right/wrong answer. yesterday the majority of americans agreed with what obama SEEMS to stand for. over the next four years we will see if we were right. if not, we will vote for someone else who SEEMS to stand for what we believe in. we have all been on the other end of this situation, where the person elected doesn't SEEM to agree with what we believe in. the beauty of democracy imho.

[jerseyjay14]

Why are people so bitter about this? It's time to come together.

a few reasons:

1) some people feel like O'bama isnt fit to be president and are upset about this

2) some people cant stand that their guy lost

I know ALOT of people where bitter in '00 and '04. i dont see why this would or should be any different

[R-ILLA]

wow. all jokes aside, im almost on the verge of tears right now.

In all serious-ness. Why?

[Paydirt404]

In all serious-ness. Why?

I cried all night, I never thought I would live to see this day come......

I was on Auburn Ave, down the street from the King Memorial, to see all those people in the streets rejoicing was moving. No drama, no nothing, people praying the streets thanking God this day had come. As a minority, it may mean more to me than someone else. For my grandparents who endured slavery and couldnt vote, they couldnt feel any better. Its a lot to take in when you have that type of history.

This is something my children can build on, and know anything is possible.

[jerseyjay14]

unfortunately, imo thats a LONG way off. look no further than the conversations on this forum for evidence that the majority of people in this country do not seem to have the ability respect another's opinion. unless of course they agree on the subject. and that's all politics is, opinions. there is no right/wrong answer. yesterday the majority of americans agreed with what obama SEEMS to stand for. over the next four years we will see if we were right. if not, we will vote for someone else who SEEMS to stand for what we believe in. we have all been on the other end of this situation, where the person elected doesn't SEEM to agree with what we believe in. the beauty of democracy imho.

I think that yesterday a majority of Americans agreed more with what O'bama didn't stand for as opposed to what he did stand for.... The exit polls and voter breakdowns would be consistent with that.... his platform basically was "i am not mccain/bush" and he also tried to say that he related to the American people... He didnt really have much that he "stood" for other then "not what they stand for"

i wish more people did vote in who they believe in and not feel the pressure of having someone tell them that they wasted their vote... thats why i was excited to see so many young people voting. hopefully that trend continues. once that demographic gets large enough, candidates will have to emerge with ideas and values that mirror those of young Americans.

[Gotti]

I think that yesterday a majority of Americans agreed with what O'bama didn't stand for. The exit polls and voter breakdowns would be consistent with that....

i wish more people did vote in who they believe in and not feel the pressure of having someone tell them that they wasted their vote... thats why i was excited to see so many young people voting. hopefully that trend continues. once that demographic gets large enough, candidates will have to emerge with ideas and values that mirror those of young Americans.
i can agree to disagree with you on that. lol

your second para. is spot on!!! that was the change i was hoping for and i believe happened.

[Keyza Soulsay]

I ain't gonna lie, I cried. I was kinda upset that I didn't get to share the moment with my children. They're way too young to understand, but all the same. Sam Cooke came on the radio this morning on the way to work and I almost had to pull over from emotion.

I hope this will cause black people to look in the mirror and realize that the systemic barriers in society can be defeated with nothing more than hard work, really.

[R-ILLA]

Anyway, remember what I told you.

Christ says, that "the wide road leads to destruction". Obama and the left leaning congress are going to push this country in directions that challenge God's authority. Man will destroy himself by pushing God's boundaries. Obama and his satan friends will go WAY past God's law. If you think God will let it go unpunished you are fooling yourselves. Truth.

You can have you overly emotional cry parties, but the reality is this-- you did nothing more than put a satanic man in the White House.

Freedom of Choice act will likely start it alll.


Remember what I told you.
The US is not the world. Hell alot of the "satanic" things you speak of has been going on widespread throughout world history. So since its going to supposedly happen in American now........the anti-christ is upon us? Man please!

[Dazed N Confuse]

Why are people so bitter about this? It's time to come together.


Yea good luck!!! I didn't vote for Obama. I do support our new president though. He has done nothing for me not to. We all need to give him a chance. Why other people can't is just crazy... He does have some great ideas. He now needs to put them in action.

[JoeJGibbs]

I think that yesterday a majority of Americans agreed more with what O'bama didn't stand for as opposed to what he did stand for.... The exit polls and voter breakdowns would be consistent with that.... his platform basically was "i am not mccain/bush" and he also tried to say that he related to the American people... He didnt really have much that he "stood" for other then "not what they stand for"

i wish more people did vote in who they believe in and not feel the pressure of having someone tell them that they wasted their vote... thats why i was excited to see so many young people voting. hopefully that trend continues. once that demographic gets large enough, candidates will have to emerge with ideas and values that mirror those of young Americans.
Exactly, and that's the kind of change I see this as-- An overall change in the way politicians see the American people. That we're not all the same person and they can't campaign that way.

[JoeJGibbs]

Yea good luck!!! I didn't vote for Obama. I do support our new president though. He has done nothing for me not to. We all need to give him a chance. Why other people can't is just crazy... He does have some great ideas. He now needs to put them in action.

Yea man, completely. When Bush was elected in 00, after the Florida debacle - I sucked it up and got on with things.
Maybe people just need time to sit and stew and throw pity parties for a bit.

[R-ILLA]

I hope you're kidding. What was the mantra of the Obama campaign? Oh yeah, CHANGE. If he can't effect the change that HE talked about, then they have NO excuses.

Perhaps we can finally put it to rest about how "racist" America is. Black and white are now truly equal.

I love it how people on both sides think that because this dude is President that everything is now okay. HA HA!

[Dazed N Confuse]

unfortunately, imo thats a LONG way off. look no further than the conversations on this forum for evidence that the majority of people in this country do not seem to have the ability respect another's opinion. unless of course they agree on the subject. and that's all politics is, opinions. there is no right/wrong answer. yesterday the majority of americans agreed with what obama SEEMS to stand for. over the next four years we will see if we were right. if not, we will vote for someone else who SEEMS to stand for what we believe in. we have all been on the other end of this situation, where the person elected doesn't SEEM to agree with what we believe in. the beauty of democracy imho.

The majority of the electoral votes were. Obama was 52% majority with McCain 46% in the public eyes. Thats not that much of a difference!! The electoral votes make it look like a landslide! The american people were a bit closer on the issue.

[JoeJGibbs]

I love it how people on both sides think that because this dude is President that everything is now okay. HA HA!

What? You lost me. Explain..

[Dazed N Confuse]

Yea man, completely. When Bush was elected in 00, after the Florida debacle - I sucked it up and got on with things.
Maybe people just need time to sit and stew and throw pity parties for a bit.


I agree 100%.. So it didn't go your way. Suck it up and deal with it! Move on and show your support for our new President. Weather you voted for him our not. You should support him!

[Gotti]

The majority of the electoral votes were. Obama was 52% majority with McCain 46% in the public eyes. Thats not that much of a difference!! The electoral votes make it look like a landslide! The american people were a bit closer on the issue.
agreed. thats why i didn't say vast majority. and thats why there are a lot of bitter people right now.

[JoeJGibbs]

Anyone notice that especially during the waning weeks of the election how scarce Bush was?

He killed McCain.

[R-ILLA]

I cried all night, I never thought I would live to see this day come......

I was on Auburn Ave, down the street from the King Memorial, to see all those people in the streets rejoicing was moving. No drama, no nothing, people praying the streets thanking God this day had come. As a minority, it may mean more to me than someone else. For my grandparents who endured slavery and couldnt vote, they couldnt feel any better. Its a lot to take in when you have that type of history.

This is something my children can build on, and know anything is possible.

I can understand that but in reality nothing has changed. Maybe it will but as of right now its the same to me. Hopefully things are/will be better. I just think everyone is getting there hopes up way too soon.

[Dazed N Confuse]

agreed. thats why i didn't say vast majority. and thats why there are a lot of bitter people right now.


Good point. Thanks for pointing that out.. Bitter as they maybe. It is what it is.

[SUC4Life1116]

Why are people so bitter about this? It's time to come together.

You would think that we all would, considering that Obama is EVERYONE'S President now!! We all were able to express our opinion by way of voting. By people stating that his policies will fail before he even gets inaugurated is a perfect example of bitterness and hatred. Give him a chance to enact some of his policies before instantly shooting them down. Does prejudice play a part?? Probably, lets face it; racism and prejudice STILL EXIST regardless whether Obama was elected. Racism just isn't on as of a high level or scale as it was in the past, but its still there.

[Dazed N Confuse]

Anyone notice that especially during the waning weeks of the election how scarce Bush was?

He killed McCain.


Bush who? Is that our president? Is that the guy you speak of?







You are not kidding!! He knew that no matter who was running for the republican party they were doomed!

[JoeJGibbs]

I can understand that but in reality nothing has changed. Maybe it will but as of right now its the same to me. Hopefully things are/will be better. I just think everyone is getting there hopes up way too soon.

Ha, Well of course its not a light switch of success that gets flipped on.
I think its a step in the right direction though.

[sanantonio]

Originally Posted by McSame owns U!!
Anyway, remember what I told you.

Christ says, that "the wide road leads to destruction". Obama and the left leaning congress are going to push this country in directions that challenge God's authority. Man will destroy himself by pushing God's boundaries. Obama and his satan friends will go WAY past God's law. If you think God will let it go unpunished you are fooling yourselves. Truth.

You can have you overly emotional cry parties, but the reality is this-- you did nothing more than put a satanic man in the White House.

Freedom of Choice act will likely start it alll.


Remember what I told you.

Puhleeease Mr. Sanctimonious cry me a river of righteousness. This country has been pushing God's boundaries for decades and so now you think all of a sudden God will finally take notice. News flash McFly He's been watching for some time now.

[R-ILLA]

What? You lost me. Explain..

Check it Resnor posted:

"Perhaps we can finally put it to rest about how "racist" America is. Black and white are now truly equal."

So because Obama is now President everything is okay? It's like everyone thinks that because a "Black" man is prez then everything that was going on yesterday is erased. Its just funny to me. I know Im in the small minority with my thoughts but oh well.

Anything is now possible? because of one night. Man please. Call me a super Cynic or whatever but I dont get it. Thats all.

[Gotti]

Anyone notice that especially during the waning weeks of the election how scarce Bush was?

He killed McCain.

yeah from a personal stand point i feel kinda bad for him. many of the same people that supported him for the past 8 years have tried like hell to distance themselves from him now. gotta feel like the guy in line when they ask who did it and everybody else in line takes a step back. lol

[JoeJGibbs]

Check it Resnor posted:

"Perhaps we can finally put it to rest about how "racist" America is. Black and white are now truly equal."

So because Obama is now President everything is okay? It's like everyone thinks that because a "Black" man is prez then everything that was going on yesterday is erased. Its just funny to me. I know Im in the small minority with my thoughts but oh well.

Anything is now possible? because of one night. Man please. Call me a super Cynic or whatever but I dont get it. Thats all.

Oh ok. Yea, I see what you're saying.
Racism is dead because Obama is president. :p
That's pretty funny. But whatever..

[ThaSpecialist]

This is amazing. Here in the Northeast it was a land slide amongst voters

And I don't think that some realize what the difference in % really was (the margin was a lot .. Bush lost to Gore at one point and beat Kerry by like .5%). 6% is up there.

.. and LOL @ dudes saying they're gonna strap on their douch caps and ride Obama :rolleyes:

As if the past 43 presidents did not fail at bringing their propositions to the table

Gibbs and JJ said it best. Obama represented a difference compared to the last 8 years of bull*****. It was easy picking him.

I'm tired of fishing in the same pond that Bush & Co. haven't dumped any more fish into.

I'll go cast out a few lines into Obama's and see what happens.

[Dazed N Confuse]

You would think that we all would, considering that Obama is EVERYONE'S President now!! We all were able to express our opinion by way of voting. By people stating that his policies will fail before he even gets inaugurated is a perfect example of bitterness and hatred. Give him a chance to enact some of his policies before instantly shooting them down. Does prejudice play a part?? Probably, lets face it; racism and prejudice STILL EXIST regardless whether Obama was elected. Racism just isn't on as of a high level or scale as it was in the past, but its still there.


And unfortunately it always will.. There are just some people who will never move on.

Why does everyone want to see him fail? If he does it's only going to continue to hurt US (not just me the country) even more! I didn't want him in office either. I how DON'T want to see him fail!!! Why anyone would is just an idiot!!!

[sanantonio]

This should raise spirits watch the first one to bring back memories then the second one lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrYfNnreK88


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq8Uc5BFogE

[543 Double Play]

Congratulations to Obama and his supporters. I truly hope he can deliver half of what he has promised......BUT, I've read some of these corny posts...."almost had to pull over the car because I was going to cry" blah blah blah.....are you guys flowers?....lol. Its not like he came out of the blue and won this thing...lol. This thing was decided once the economy really went down the ****ter.

This election and the way it turned out was like the American people saying, Ok Obama, we choose you and we going to give you control of the house and senate to boot...."you better deliver"....because he has nothing to stop him now....there should be no excuses as to why he couldnt get stuff done at the end of the day. That is the feeling I get from all this. I hope he is not a push over when it comes to foreign policy and terrorism because that is what really concerns me.

[sanantonio]

Congratulations to Obama and his supporters. I truly hope he can deliver half of what he has promised......BUT, I've read some of these corny posts...."almost had to pull over the car because I was going to cry" blah blah blah.....are you guys flowers?....lol. Its not like he came out of the blue and won this thing...lol. This thing was decided once the economy really went down the ****ter.

This election and the way it turned out was like the American people saying, Ok Obama, we choose you and we going to give you control of the house and senate to boot...."you better deliver"....because he has nothing to stop him now....there should be no excuses as to why he couldnt get stuff done at the end of the day. That is the feeling I get from all this. I hope he is not a push over when it comes to foreign policy and terrorism because that is what really concerns me.

It's emotional because of the strides black people have made in such a very short time in spite of the unlevel playing field. Also from the perspective of older blacks such as myself that witnessed first hand how repressive the culture was to blacks, it was never even a consideration to have a black as President. So forgive some of us if our emotion befuddles you and if you can't understand that then I can only give you the "Harlem AL quote". :p

[543 Double Play]

It's emotional because of the strides black people have made in such a very short time in spite of the unlevel playing field. Also from the perspective of older blacks such as myself that witnessed first hand how repressive the culture was to blacks, it was never even a consideration to have a black as President. So forgive some of us if our emotion befuddles you and if you can't understand that then I can only give you the "Harlem AL quote". :p

I agree somewhat, the American People have made good strides. I just think its a little over-the-top and kind of corny that someone by listening to the radio a day after it happened had to almost pull the car off the road when for weeks most knew he was going to win. To each his own I guess. Maybe you can be half as happy as he is half-black...:p

[Keyza Soulsay]

I don't expect anyone who doesn't understand the struggles black americans have had to deal with to know how significant this is. To go from Jim Crow to the presidency in 40 years is incredible.

Secondly, Sam Cooke's A Change is Gonna Come is an incredible song.

[Bearfanmike20]

OMG....

Historic yes.. but.. if we really want to advance as people... we need to stop dwelling on it. Hes in.. good.. about time, now lets get to the issues.

the fact that we are all in awe and wonderment over a black president I think is a hinderence to breaking down racial walls.

Let me put it in a football term. Act like you've been there, and get there again. :)

[SUC4Life1116]

It's emotional because of the strides black people have made in such a very short time in spite of the unlevel playing field.

I was struggling to find the right words and you explained it perfectly.


I don't expect anyone who doesn't understand the struggles black americans have had to deal with to know how significant this is.

+++100

[SUC4Life1116]

we need to stop dwelling on it...
the fact that we are all in awe and wonderment over a black president I think is a hinderence to breaking down racial walls.

Please help me understand: So, celebrating, nevermind celebrating is the wrong word to use in the context. So acknowledging and being excited for about uhh 12 hrs after getting the results of the new President is hindering the abolishment of the racial walls??

[JoeJGibbs]

Please help me understand: So, celebrating, nevermind celebrating is the wrong word to use in the context. So acknowledging and being excited for about uhh 12 hrs after getting the results of the new President is hindering the abolishment of the racial walls??

lol.......

[Bearfanmike20]

Please help me understand: So, celebrating, nevermind celebrating is the wrong word to use in the context. So acknowledging and being excited for about uhh 12 hrs after getting the results of the new President is hindering the abolishment of the racial walls??

You think that its gonna stop soon... this is gonna go for a LOOOONG time.

I understand, but...

People talk about racial equality... and then celebrate racial advancement. You cant have it both ways. Its hypocritical. IMO.

If we are to be once race.. the human race then this shouldn't be an issue. This shows how FAR away we are from racial equality IMO.

I see and hear people.. "we won.. we won..."

What did you win??.. a cookie..??... Did you win the Obama sweepstakes.?? You didn't win... HE WON, and thats great... great because I believe hes gonna do some things. Not because hes black.

You want racial equality for real... have some humility.. I dont see him up there grandstanding because hes black... So... follow Barraks lead.

[JoeJGibbs]

You think that its gonna stop soon... this is gonna go for a LOOOONG time.

I understand, but...

People talk about racial equality... and then celebrate racial advancement. You cant have it both ways. Its hypocritical. IMO.

If we are to be once race.. the human race then this shouldn't be an issue. This shows how FAR away we are from racial equality IMO.

I see and hear people.. "we won.. we won..."

What did you win??.. a cookie..??... Did you win the Obama sweepstakes.?? You didn't win... HE WON, and thats great... great because I believe hes gonna do some things. Not because hes black.

You want racial equality for real... have some humility.. I dont see him up there grandstanding because hes black... So... follow Barraks lead.

So you think people are grandstanding now? Or talking about it too much?
Is that correct?

[SUC4Life1116]

You think that its gonna stop soon... this is gonna go for a LOOOONG time.

I understand, but...

People talk about racial equality... and then celebrate racial advancement. You cant have it both ways. Its hypocritical. IMO.

If we are to be once race.. the human race then this shouldn't be an issue. This shows how FAR away we are from racial equality IMO.

I see and hear people.. "we won.. we won..."

What did you win??.. a cookie..??... Did you win the Obama sweepstakes.?? You didn't win... HE WON, and thats great... great because I believe hes gonna do some things. Not because hes black.

You want racial equality for real... have some humility.. I dont see him up there grandstanding because hes black... So... follow Barraks lead.


I agree with some of what you said, but the fact of the matter is that this is a MAJOR step in achieving the "ideal" equality that, we as American will probably won't reach, for numerous and obvious reasons. I would be the 1st to slap Obama supporters that parade around acting like blacks get a free pass just because he have a black President. If anything, we need to start changing our culture (sagging pants, slurred speech) to reflect the stride that we made today. We need to start living up to the expectations that have now been put into action.

[sideoutshu]

I think you're missing the idea when it comes to change.
I think its more of a mentality of being a U.S. Citizen and dealing with our current administration more than anything else. This election has a completely different feel to it man. Nothing like I have ever witnessed or been a part of. Just watching Chicago last night made me proud - not only as an African-American, but as a young, U.S. voter and citizen. Whoever the next President would've been wouldn't be able to immediately change our financial crisis. It took 8 years for us to get in this hell. It'll take years before we're able to get out.

The results of the election were pretty symbolic of what people are excited about when it comes to change.

The young black guy defeats the old white war hero? That's unhearalded. It seems like something from a tv show or a sappy Disney movie. That's change. Yes, Obama got the black vote, but what democrat doesn't get the black vote? Obama, got votes from different races, creeds, genders, and ages. That's change. It took all kinds of people coming together instead of the us vs them mentality.

In retrospect, I think McCain was fighting an uphill battle and walking with an elephant on his back.
* 90% voting with Bush
* current economic crisis
* Bush's last 8 years
* Palin's ineptitude

Whoever was his campaign manager should be excommunicated to Jupiter; where Obama won 57% of the vote. :p
Maybe this election will be a building block for future elections. One can only hope.

60 years from now when 2 women are running for President I can look back and say, "I remember when this would never have been thought possible."

Obama to me represents change in government ideals. Hopefully, that will be the case. I think people understand that it won't be overnight. But I think people understand that this is something that needed to happen for our country to be united and go forward as a people.

People know what George Bush has accomplished. People know what Republicans have accomplished. America spoke on Nov 4th and said they wanted.....change.

I'm JoeJGibbs and I approve this message.

Ugh, if I hear another person say "it took us 8 years to get in this mess" I think i am gonna throw up. You all act as if from the second George Bush was elected, the stock market began to plummet and the country went down the sh*tter. sigh

The reality is that we have a DEMOCRATIC Congress, and anyone who claims that people like Barney Frank and Chris Dodd don't share in the responsibility for what is going on in our economy is flat out ignorant.

Look at what is at the root of the mortgage crisis.....it isn't republican thinking.....I can tell you that. George Bush isn't of the party that wants to redistribute the wealth and endow people who can't afford homes with a mortgage they can't afford, it is the entitlement policies that were bullied into place by people like Barney Frank. But god forbid we say anything except "Bush sucks blah blah blah".

I understand why people are angry with Bush on issues like Katrina, the war, etc. But to be so ignorant as to claim the economic crisis should fall on his shoulders without any blame on the democrats in Congress in ridiculous.

But hey, you guys will know what it is like when 4 years from now everyone is doing the same thing to Obama.(except Obama won't have the excuse of an unfriendly legislative branch.

[sideoutshu]

I think that yesterday a majority of Americans agreed more with what O'bama didn't stand for as opposed to what he did stand for.... The exit polls and voter breakdowns would be consistent with that.... his platform basically was "i am not mccain/bush" and he also tried to say that he related to the American people... He didnt really have much that he "stood" for other then "not what they stand for"
That is the bottom line right there. This was less on election of Obama, and more a rejection of republicans.

[JoeJGibbs]

Ugh, if I hear another person say "it took us 8 years to get in this mess" I think i am gonna throw up. You all act as if from the second George Bush was elected, the stock market began to plummet and the country went down the sh*tter. sigh

The reality is that we have a DEMOCRATIC Congress, and anyone who claims that people like Barney Frank and Chris Dodd don't share in the responsibility for what is going on in our economy is flat out ignorant.

Look at what is at the root of the mortgage crisis.....it isn't republican thinking.....I can tell you that. George Bush isn't of the party that wants to redistribute the wealth and endow people who can't afford homes with a mortgage they can't afford, it is the entitlement policies that were bullied into place by people like Barney Frank. But god forbid we say anything except "Bush sucks blah blah blah".

I understand why people are angry with Bush on issues like Katrina, the war, etc. But to be so ignorant as to claim the economic crisis should fall on his shoulders without any blame on the democrats in Congress in ridiculous.

But hey, you guys will know what it is like when 4 years from now everyone is doing the same thing to Obama.(except Obama won't have the excuse of an unfriendly legislative branch.

From my post.. That's it?

I was making a point that it took a long time to get in a situation of this magnitude. There is no magic reset button.

[dbscott1]

I think everyone is really missing the point with the racial angle. People we have to recognize that America is changing and america's view on race is changing.

While as an African American I am proud to see my grandmother smile about the election. I am not only proud to see Obama run such a wonderful election but I am also proud of America itself.

African Americans are only 11% of the electorate so if every vote went to Obama he would not have won. 40% of the electorate non-black went in obam's corner. So America is changing for the better. When I say for the better I am not talkng about whether you are Red or blue but that we are better for putting the racial issue on the back seat.

[resnor]

So, let me ask a question...as a conservative, how am I supposed to "support" Obama and his policies? I mean, I don't hope that he fails. However, I cannot, and will not, support his ideas of wealth redistribution. I cannot, and will not, support his ideas on universal healthcare. I cannot, and will not, support his ideas on cutting the military.

Do I hope that he fails? If that means that I hope that he's not able to do some of the things he wants, then yes. I'm sorry, I don't subscribe to the same ideals as him, therefore, I cannot support those ideals.

On a side note, I think that it's a problem when people are excited that a black man won instead of a white man. People aren't excited because of what he stands for...they're not excited because of what he will do...they're excited, first and foremost, because of his color. I was playing Socom last night, and in the room I was in, you should have heard the ignorant things that they were saying when Obama won. You'd think that Obama was some sort of drug-loving, gang banger the way his supporters were talking about him. "He's gonna hold a crunk cup in the White House," was one thing I heard. What?

[sideoutshu]

You would think that we all would, considering that Obama is EVERYONE'S President now!! We all were able to express our opinion by way of voting. By people stating that his policies will fail before he even gets inaugurated is a perfect example of bitterness and hatred. Give him a chance to enact some of his policies before instantly shooting them down. Does prejudice play a part?? Probably, lets face it; racism and prejudice STILL EXIST regardless whether Obama was elected. Racism just isn't on as of a high level or scale as it was in the past, but its still there.

96% of the black vote went for Obama. Looks like it is alive and well. :rolleyes:

[JoeJGibbs]

I think everyone is really missing the point with the racial angle. People we have to recognize that America is changing and america's view on race is changing.

While as an African American I am proud to see my grandmother smile about the election. I am not only proud to see Obama run such a wonderful election but I am also proud of America itself.

African Americans are only 11% of the electorate so if every vote went to Obama he would not have won. 40% of the electorate non-black went in obam's corner. So America is changing for the better. When I say for the better I am not talkng about whether you are Red or blue but that we are better for putting the racial issue on the back seat.

This is what I mentioned. Good post.

[sideoutshu]

From my post.. That's it?

I was making a point that it took a long time to get in a situation of this magnitude. There is no magic reset button.

Sure there is. You realize that you guys are technically "the man" now. Right?:p

[sling]

96% of the black vote went for Obama. Looks like it is alive and well. :rolleyes:

Yup I noticed that too. No one will admit that though.

[JoeJGibbs]

So, let me ask a question...as a conservative, how am I supposed to "support" Obama and his policies? I mean, I don't hope that he fails. However, I cannot, and will not, support his ideas of wealth redistribution. I cannot, and will not, support his ideas on universal healthcare. I cannot, and will not, support his ideas on cutting the military.

Do I hope that he fails? If that means that I hope that he's not able to do some of the things he wants, then yes. I'm sorry, I don't subscribe to the same ideals as him, therefore, I cannot support those ideals.

On a side note, I think that it's a problem when people are excited that a black man won instead of a white man. People aren't excited because of what he stands for...they're not excited because of what he will do...they're excited, first and foremost, because of his color. I was playing Socom last night, and in the room I was in, you should have heard the ignorant things that they were saying when Obama won. You'd think that Obama was some sort of drug-loving, gang banger the way his supporters were talking about him. "He's gonna hold a crunk cup in the White House," was one thing I heard. What?

Wait.. what? Socom? Xbox 360? Obama? Ugh.
:p, are we really bringing up people yelling into a video game?

[sideoutshu]

On a side note, I think that it's a problem when people are excited that a black man won instead of a white man. People aren't excited because of what he stands for...they're not excited because of what he will do...they're excited, first and foremost, because of his color. I was playing Socom last night, and in the room I was in, you should have heard the ignorant things that they were saying when Obama won. You'd think that Obama was some sort of drug-loving, gang banger the way his supporters were talking about him. "He's gonna hold a crunk cup in the White House," was one thing I heard. What?

Can you imagine if I had come on here saying "thank god the white guy won". What people would have said about me?

[JoeJGibbs]

96% of the black vote went for Obama. Looks like it is alive and well. :rolleyes:

Black people vote Democratic.

If Obama was Timmy O'Toole Wojciehowsky, Democrat from Maryland he'd get the African American vote.

Obama being an African American candidate only caused more African Americans to take part in the election, by registering and voting.

[resnor]

Wait.. what? Socom? Xbox 360? Obama? Ugh.
:p, are we really bringing up people yelling into a video game?

I'm giving you an EXAMPLE. What is wrong with talking about what I heard on Socom? Did those people not vote? Can we not talk about what people are saying on internet boards, or in private conversation?

[CapnKill]

Bottom line is that Obama does more to inspire the people not only in this country but the entire world than McCain would ever have done. This is the road with the most promise. It shows the world that we aren't complete douche bags and gives everyone hope. Cause at this stage in humanity its not just about us anymore.

[sling]

Black people vote Democratic.

If Obama was Timmy O'Toole Wojciehowsky, Democrat from Maryland he'd get the African American vote.

Obama being an African American candidate only caused more African Americans to take part in the election, by registering and voting.

No but the percentage increased a lot too. I remember it was 80% voted for Kerry back in 2004, and now 96% for Obama. Thats a massive change. I'm not saying theres anything wrong with it, because there was probably a crap load of people that didn't vote for Obama because he was black, so it balances things.

[Keyza Soulsay]

Who came on here saying, "Thank god the black guy won"? Nobody.

Resnor, I agree you should not support his policies if you don't agree with them. That is every american's right. I didn't support Bush's butt-raping of the military, and thus did not vote for him in 04, and still refused to support his policies.

The problem is when people who disagree with a politician refuse to acknowledge when they were wrong about something they disagreed with.

[evad04]

I do find it ironic that 96% of the black vote went to "change" for Obama -- yet 70% of African Americans voted to take away the rights of so many Californians.

I can't exactly be thrilled about the election overall. :rolleyes:

[sideoutshu]

Black people vote Democratic.

If Obama was Timmy O'Toole Wojciehowsky, Democrat from Maryland he'd get the African American vote.

Obama being an African American candidate only caused more African Americans to take part in the election, by registering and voting.

That isn't true. There is a major difference percentage wise in the historicaly voting record of blacks and that in this election. 96 % is ridiculous.

[sideoutshu]

I do find it ironic that 96% of the black vote went to "change" for Obama -- yet 70% of African Americans voted to take away the rights of so many Californians.

I can't exactly be thrilled about the election overall. :rolleyes:

Uh oh......I hope Milwaukee doesn't see this. He went on a 6 page barrage calling me "racist" for suggeting that blacks vote "anti-gay" in disproportionate amounts then whites.

I guess the proof is in the pudding as they say.:p

[ATM]

I think everyone is really missing the point with the racial angle. People we have to recognize that America is changing and america's view on race is changing.

While as an African American I am proud to see my grandmother smile about the election. I am not only proud to see Obama run such a wonderful election but I am also proud of America itself.

African Americans are only 11% of the electorate so if every vote went to Obama he would not have won. 40% of the electorate non-black went in obam's corner. So America is changing for the better. When I say for the better I am not talkng about whether you are Red or blue but that we are better for putting the racial issue on the back seat.

This post summed it up perfect. Did anyone see the pans of the crowd at McCain's speech? Tons of white people young and old. At Obama's speech their was White, Black, Hispanic, Asian, young, and old. It was a mix of people celebrating. Not just black people or white people. All different types of people celebrating Obama winning.

[Gtrght77]

I do find it ironic that 96% of the black vote went to "change" for Obama -- yet 70% of African Americans voted to take away the rights of so many Californians.

I can't exactly be thrilled about the election overall. :rolleyes:

Not anything new, Black voters never have been for gay marriage.

[evad04]

That isn't true. There is a major difference percentage wise in the historicaly voting record of blacks and that in this election. 96 % is ridiculous.

Well old southern white people voted disproportionately for McCain. And it's hardly fair to label many blacks voting for Obama "racism." You once again demonstrate a clear misunderstanding of what racism IS.

[JoeJGibbs]

I'm giving you an EXAMPLE. What is wrong with talking about what I heard on Socom? Did those people not vote? Can we not talk about what people are saying on internet boards, or in private conversation?

Because there is always going to be ignorant people. Especially in video game land.

For your story of what you heard, I have heard N!gger this Ni99er that while playing Madden about the same issue.

We have no idea who those people are. They can be 8 years old for all we know.
Did those people not vote?
**shrugs shoulders**
We can talk about whatever, but where is the relevance to what some ignorant @sshole says over a microphone from the confines of his safe, warm living room.

I guess what I'm saying is, 'What is the significance of someone being ignorant and supporting Obama?'

If it were fact that only ignorant people supported Obama, I'd have no problem with including these E-jack@sses.

[evad04]

Not anything new, Black voters never have been for gay marriage.

I'm not suggesting it's "new." I'm saying it's ironic.

[sideoutshu]

Well old southern white people voted disproportionately for McCain. And it's hardly fair to label many blacks voting for Obama "racism." You once again demonstrate a clear misunderstanding of what racism IS.

I understand what it is, but due to the ignorance on this board in throwing the term around, I choose to adopt a broader definition in the interest of fairness. If people are voting for a man due solely to the color of his skin, that is racism, plain and simple. The only difference is that the uber-PC liberals in this country have conditioned us to think it is ok for blacks to be racist. Maybe now that black people are "the man" things will change.

[sideoutshu]

I'm not suggesting it's "new." I'm saying it's ironic.

There is an entire thread abou tthis where I told people it was going to happen. Quite typically, the uninformed hordes insisted that my citing of widely accepted polling data and election trends was "racist" and untrue.

I guess we found out who was right.

[evad04]

I understand what it is, but due to the ignorance on this board in throwing the term around, I choose to adopt a broader definition in the interest of fairness. If people are voting for a man due solely to the color of his skin, that is racism, plain and simple. The only difference is that the uber-PC liberals in this country have conditioned us to think it is ok for blacks to be racist. Maybe now that black people are "the man" things will change.

No. It's not, and your "broader definition" is craptastic. You can't say you know what racism is, then completely misidentify it.

[sideoutshu]

No. It's not, and your "broader definition" is craptastic. You can't say you know what racism is, then completely misidentify it.

deny deny deny...the truth hurts I guess.

[sanantonio]

deny deny deny...the truth hurts I guess.

You know whats coming from me..............you stinking genius!

[JoeJGibbs]

There is an entire thread abou tthis where I told people it was going to happen. Quite typically, the uninformed hordes insisted that my citing of widely accepted polling data and election trends was "racist" and untrue.

I guess we found out who was right.

Obama didn't win because black people voted for him. He won because everyone voted for him. Hispanics were HIS by 2/3rds, young voters were HIS 2to1, over 1/2 the women were his votes.

So you can choose to focus on how high the African American vote was or choose to focus on how high every demographic was and in his favor.

Someone already mentioned the comparisons between the crowds of the candidates last night. McCain had all one type of person. Obama's had everyone.

[resnor]

How is voting for a person, based solely on skin color NOT racist? Oh yeah, it's only racist if you vote for a WHITE man based on his skin color.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[SUC4Life1116]

I understand what it is, but due to the ignorance on this board in throwing the term around, I choose to adopt a broader definition in the interest of fairness. If people are voting for a man due solely to the color of his skin, that is racism, plain and simple. The only difference is that the uber-PC liberals in this country have conditioned us to think it is ok for blacks to be racist. Maybe now that black people are "the man" things will change.

Are you serious? If anything, blacks are told on an everyday basis that racism doesn't exist, and that "we are harping on the past". Me and you both know that African Americans are probably more tolerant of whites than the other way around. If you don't agree with that, say hello to Peter Pan and the lost boys in Neverland for me, because you're obviously not present here in America.

[JoeJGibbs]

Bottom line is that Obama does more to inspire the people not only in this country but the entire world than McCain would ever have done. This is the road with the most promise. It shows the world that we aren't complete douche bags and gives everyone hope. Cause at this stage in humanity its not just about us anymore.

Good post capn..

[Gtrght77]

How is voting for a person, based solely on skin color NOT racist? Oh yeah, it's only racist if you vote for a WHITE man based on his skin color.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Its not like they were voting for Flavor Fl av, this is a super intelligent great speaker who made history. I see no racism in the black community voting for their candidate. had he been white I don't think the % of votes would be much different, I think more black voters voted because he was black. Black voters DO NOT VOTE GOP, and it looks like the Hispanic voting group has started to abandon the GOP as well. Only racists are those who didn't vote for Obama because he was black.

[Nevada_Ballin]

Oh ok. Yea, I see what you're saying.
Racism is dead because Obama is president. :p
That's pretty funny. But whatever..

Didn't you get the memo? The KKK officially disbanded today and will now stop hating. :rolleyes:

Like i said earlier in this thread, there is work to be done - by everyone - if we wish to move forward with the things tht are truly important right now (2 wars, economy, healthcare, foreign policy, etc).

The "magic" of Obama isn't that he's going to change everything with the swipe of a wand. Those who say that, in an attempt to demean him, are simply butthurt and want to continue the divisiveness of the Bush Agenda. they have no desire to help move this country to a better day. They are already looking to point out failures in policy before he even takes office.

The magic is that there's a new hope within the souls of millions of Americans. The cornerstone of that new hope rests in the belief that the same old politics in DC is going to change. The lobbyists can start packing their bags and Congress along with Obama will begin to work with each other, for the people, not for corporate or party interests.

[resnor]

The magic is that there's a new hope within the souls of millions of Americans. The cornerstone of that new hope rests in the belief that the same old politics in DC is going to change. The lobbyists can start packing their bags and Congress along with Obama will begin to work with each other, for the people, not for corporate or party interests.

Dude, I'm not sure how you can really write this and be serious. Obama was the biggest beneficiary, in the shortest time, from Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac. Who was he working for in that instance? The people? Or the corporations?

[sanantonio]

How is voting for a person, based solely on skin color NOT racist? Oh yeah, it's only racist if you vote for a WHITE man based on his skin color.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

If you are the minority and not voting based on a feeling of superiority with the intent to hold another race down through malace and hate then no it is not racism.

[Keyza Soulsay]

How is voting for a person, based solely on skin color NOT racist? Oh yeah, it's only racist if you vote for a WHITE man based on his skin color.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
No, it IS racist- but you're assuming that blacks as a whole only voted for Obama because he's black. There is no real evidence to justify that.

[Bearfanmike20]

So, let me ask a question...as a conservative, how am I supposed to "support" Obama and his policies? I mean, I don't hope that he fails. However, I cannot, and will not, support his ideas of wealth redistribution. I cannot, and will not, support his ideas on universal healthcare. I cannot, and will not, support his ideas on cutting the military.

Do I hope that he fails? If that means that I hope that he's not able to do some of the things he wants, then yes. I'm sorry, I don't subscribe to the same ideals as him, therefore, I cannot support those ideals.

On a side note, I think that it's a problem when people are excited that a black man won instead of a white man. People aren't excited because of what he stands for...they're not excited because of what he will do...they're excited, first and foremost, because of his color. I was playing Socom last night, and in the room I was in, you should have heard the ignorant things that they were saying when Obama won. You'd think that Obama was some sort of drug-loving, gang banger the way his supporters were talking about him. "He's gonna hold a crunk cup in the White House," was one thing I heard. What?
I think you at least give him a shot.... a fair shot to prove somthing to you. Nothing more.. nothing less.. right??

[resnor]

If you are the minority and not voting based on a feeling of superiority with the intent to hold another race down through malace and hate then no it is not racism.

So now you are a mind reader, and are able to know the intent of voters?

It's pretty obvious that people voted on race. What were the stats on black voters again?

Note, this is not me saying that McCain would have won if the black vote hadn't been so large. I realize that there were a ton of whites who voted for Obama. However, I'm merely talking about blacks voting for a black because of skin color.

[Nevada_Ballin]

Dude, I'm not sure how you can really write this and be serious. Obama was the biggest beneficiary, in the shortest time, from Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac. Who was he working for in that instance? The people? Or the corporations?

Dude - McCain was no better. There's no need to go there anymore - we've regurgitated who got money from who for weeks and both candidates got their "corporate" share.

The election is over. Obama won. Politics in DC are going to change. I don't care if you believe that or not. It's not my repsponsibility to convince you.

[resnor]

I think you at least give him a shot.... a fair shot to prove somthing to you. Nothing more.. nothing less.. right??

The problem is, Mike, that even if Obama gets his policies passed, I still disagree fundamentally with what his beliefs are.

[Nevada_Ballin]

So now you are a mind reader, and are able to know the intent of voters?

It's pretty obvious that people voted on race. What were the stats on black voters again?

Note, this is not me saying that McCain would have won if the black vote hadn't been so large. I realize that there were a ton of whites who voted for Obama. However, I'm merely talking about blacks voting for a black because of skin color.

Then why did Obama dominate the Jewish vote?