Tim Brown to the Tampa Raiders

[djwill13]

Here we go again Joe T, gruden's gonna turn us into the raiders yet.

It's kinda sad to see him go, but he'll be welcome in tampa. we've got a solid recieving core now, hopefully gruden will be able to work with this offense

[BlueCrush2005]

Had a feeling he wouldnt go to the Broncos. He wouldnt get the playing time he wanted there. Hope he does well in TB, a person of that character deserves a ring since he couldn't get it in the other place <smirk> :D Gruden is one of my two favorite coaches. Think TB might be looking up..

[Gtrght77]

Gruden is a traitor and there is now way in east hell they are even getting close to a super bowl

[djwill13]

what do you think we did two years ago????

charlie garner (ex raider) is still a threat out of the backfield. maybe not as much as a runner but more as a recieving option. we also picked up schoeder from the lions so we have some depth at WR. Also, brad johnson is one of the most accurate passers in the league and is willing to take a beating

we still have dwight smith, ronde barber, brian kelley, mr. derrick brooks, booger macfarland, and shelton quarles on defense, so we're still solid there.

we may not finish with the best record in the nfl, but we'll make the playoffs. sayin how far we get is another story. i'll have to wait until after the season is over to determine that

[joetoronto]

tim brown is done like dinner, he's been done for 3 years now.

he has no hope of getting off a jam, has no speed at all and started dropping ball the past couple of years.

he should have retired as a raider.

[djwill13]

they were sayin the same things about jerry rice

[joetoronto]

no dj, this isn't the same thing. jerry is older than brown but is faster, stronger, smarter, run's better routes (the best routes) and has much better hands.

i haven't missed a raider game in years thanks to the sunday ticket and i know, like many, many others know, that tim brown is completely washed up.

having said that, i don't hate the guy and i wish him well, i really do.

[djwill13]

well, i guess we'll just have to see

personally i think he'll have something to prove. and for the most part, his experience and leadership will be much needed in the rebuilt TB offense

both garner and brown know gruden's schemes and should do well

[joetoronto]

i don't wish him anything but the best, dj. maybe i came off the wrong way?

charlie garner has alot left, phisically and mentally. i've always said that nobody hates losing more than charlie garner, nobody.

[djwill13]

oh i know you didn't joe t, that's like how i feel about sapp. i hated to see him leave (i didn't like him personally, but you have to admire the guys style of play and he has a lot of heart)

i'm just sayin, everybody said that rice was done and he was washed up. granted his numbers aren't anywhere near where they were when he was in his prime, but he's still productive

considering how well brown knows the offense and the style of play gruden likes to use, he could be very helpful if for nothing more than his teaching of the system to the younger guys like michael clayton

i'm not sayin he'll catch 75 passes and have 100 yards or anything, but if he can have anywhere from 30-45 catches for around 450 or so, i'll consider that productive. consider this, we'll be extremely deep at wr weather mccardell comes back or not. michael clayton, charles lee, joe jurevicius, joey galloway, tim brown, bill shroeder.

[joetoronto]

absolutely, having him isn't gonna hurt.