another 750 billion? really?

[jerseyjay14]

seriously why in the world do they continue to try and throw money at the problem hoping it will go away?

[Nevada_Ballin]

what's the money for?

[killacs]

They're trying to reinflate the bubble it isn't going to work. Pumping money like this is going to devalue our dollar if we can't get enough T-Bonds bought and need to print the money to satisfy the needs.

[SUPDOG]

I wonder if Obama played a lot of Monopoly when he was a kid.

[killacs]

I wonder if Obama played a lot of Monopoly when he was a kid.

And the Republicans didn't offer a bank bailout and billions in Iraq/Afghanistan:rolleyes:

[SUPDOG]

And the Republicans didn't offer a bank bailout and billions in Iraq/Afghanistan:rolleyes:

A. Bush became a fiscal liberal by the end of his term.

B. To compare anything Bush did to this nonsense is nonsensical.

C. To label spending on a war, that was intended for the betterment of our national security is silly. Please stop.

D. Obama is spending money like a kid in a candy store. If you can't understand that, you play too much monopoly yourself.

In the end the liberals will want to blame Obama's waste on Bush. That is all that they know how to do. It comes with Obamabot territory.

Let us focus on what this snake is doing now. Afterall the messiah says we should look forward, right? So let us look forward to the impending doom.




Just like I told you.

[XxsourdieselxX]

i think the world got too modern too fast, we wnet from cable tv to all this, lots of people buy things online, one reason for less jobs, walmart. and the real estate market is screeched to a a hault. property values are down, blah bla.
even people with job security are spending less money. the thing is if with tv and internet, we are too well informed in 2009, word travels too fast, people are worring more, always talking about the economy, in the 30s people hardly had phones, it came and went this will come and go, just do your thing, everthing will balance out. just how it is, the only reason the government is worried about lost jobs is????????????????????????????BECAUSE THERE LOSING MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the gov is a buissness like everything else. and in the world we live in now, and have for 2000 years CASH RULES EVERYTHING AROUND ME,

wanna cut the deficet?? tax every politcians bribes and kick backs, how bout hey its a recession lets spend 500 million on tryin to become president. then spend a couple trillioin here couple there, bail everyone out because bush ***ed it up, just focus on u regaurdless what happens in the news u gotta do ur daily thing, and thats how it is

[SUPDOG]

Wal mart is the biggest employer in the United States of America.

How did they "kill" jobs?

Don't worry though, I am sure they are on Obama's hit list.

Your president says: "Destroy success.....destroy successs.....become dependent on government.....become dependent ON ME!!!!!!!!!!:eek:

He owns many of you already, and you haven't a clue.


Just like I told you.

[killacs]

A. Bush became a fiscal liberal by the end of his term.

B. To compare anything Bush did to this nonsense is nonsensical.

C. To label spending on a war, that was intended for the betterment of our national security is silly. Please stop.

D. Obama is spending money like a kid in a candy store. If you can't understand that, you play too much monopoly yourself.

In the end the liberals will want to blame Obama's waste on Bush. That is all that they know how to do. It comes with Obamabot territory.

Let us focus on what this snake is doing now. Afterall the messiah says we should look forward, right? So let us look forward to the impending doom.




Just like I told you.

A) Spending billions on the War Iraq is useless

B) How is it nonsensical? At least in theory the $$ Obama is spending here is benefiting our homeland

C) Betterment for the US, the Iraq War really? You seriously believe that? It has spread our forces thin, we have lost focus on our homeland protection and instead implement many laws that restrict freedoms of innocent Americans. If anything it hurts us more in national security. It gives America an even worse world image, causes casualties of war, causes increasing suicides by US soldiers.

D) Did I ever say Obama wasn't spending money?

Why do we have to focus solely on what Obama is currently doing? How come we can't compare it to what the last president did? Oh yeah because the last president spent just as stupidly, if not more with the billions upon billions spent destroying then rebuilding Iraq.

The middle east is a lost phugging cause and we need to stay out of there. We helped get rid of the Iran rulers in the 1980's cause we didn't like them, how did that work out for us? Oh yeah they still hate us. Your justification for spending on the war is nonsensical. I say if someone is going to spend a boatload of money might as well spend it where it counts, here at home.

Also this impending doom of our money market can be blamed on the FED, getting away from the gold standard, and the idea that when $$ isn't backed by anything constantly printing it/insane deficit spending is a good idea. We have every president and their economic advisers who has done the insane deficit spending to blame in the group with the FED

[Gtrght77]

Walmart is the only thing keeping a lot of people going these days. Walmart deserves to succeed any more then the next company. Walmart just does it better and other companies cant keep up then survival of the fittest if you ask me. Thats what capitalism is all about.


As for throwing money at the problem, you should expect no less then 2 trillion going into the economy. If the GOP has a problem with it how about coming up with an idea other then "Do Nothing".


FYI: It was Nixon that did away with the Gold Standard.

[killacs]

Walmart is the only thing keeping a lot of people going these days. Walmart deserves to succeed any more then the next company. Walmart just does it better and other companies cant keep up then survival of the fittest if you ask me. Thats what capitalism is all about.


As for throwing money at the problem, you should expect no less then 2 trillion going into the economy. If the GOP has a problem with it how about coming up with an idea other then "Do Nothing".


FYI: It was Nixon that did away with the Gold Standard.

Yeah I knew it was Nixon it was a stupid idea.

[sideoutshu]

Walmart is the only thing keeping a lot of people going these days. Walmart deserves to succeed any more then the next company. Walmart just does it better and other companies cant keep up then survival of the fittest if you ask me. Thats what capitalism is all about.


As for throwing money at the problem, you should expect no less then 2 trillion going into the economy. If the GOP has a problem with it how about coming up with an idea other then "Do Nothing".


FYI: It was Nixon that did away with the Gold Standard.

Wait a second. He lonny left is praising anti-union Walmart now?

[Gtrght77]

Wait a second. He lonny left is praising anti-union Walmart now?

I like guns and the death penalty to. :eek:

[theanalogkid]

The middle east is a lost phugging cause and we need to stay out of there. We helped get rid of the Iran rulers in the 1980's cause we didn't like them, how did that work out for us? Oh yeah they still hate us. Your justification for spending on the war is nonsensical. I say if someone is going to spend a boatload of money might as well spend it where it counts, here at home.

Also this impending doom of our money market can be blamed on the FED, getting away from the gold standard, and the idea that when $$ isn't backed by anything constantly printing it/insane deficit spending is a good idea. We have every president and their economic advisers who has done the insane deficit spending to blame in the group with the FED

1. We overthrew Iran's elected ruler in the 1950 because he wanted to nationalize the oil industry. In which case the new government was overthrown in the 70s, and the current government of Iran was installed. It's called blowback, happens a lot when you mess with the affairs of another country.

2. The bretton woods system was a shamble, and was doomed to failure. They were also printing large amounts of money for the time to pay for the Vietnam war, even with the gold standard. I'm not sure there is enough gold out there to go back to it.

[Paydirt404]

I havent seen one good anything come from fighting that war....no one has ever been able to give me 5 good benefits that justify that type of spending.

And please dont say Im not being American because I dont support the war, because hoping for Presidential failure isnt American either.:rolleyes:

[resnor]

Saddam not being still in power isn't one good thing?

Gtrght, why is throwing upwards of 3 trillion dollars at the problem a BETTER idea than doing nothing? Every other month, you've got politicians telling us that we need another bailout, or the economy is gonna crash. Well, at first, it was 700 billion, or it would crash. We got that, then Obama said we needed another 800 billion, or it would crash. We got that, and then they wanted another 450 billion...and they got that. Now, they are saying we're gonna need ANOTHER bailout by the summer at the latest. WHEN DOES IT END?? At some point, the economy is gonna bottom out, and when it does, all these trillions of dollars that we are throwing at the problem are going to be pointless.

By the way, killacs, if you have a problem with the way that George W. Bush spent money, then you should have a serious problem with the way that Barack Hussein Obama is spending money.

[theanalogkid]

Saddam not being still in power isn't one good thing?


Since Iraq was a check in the balance of power in the middle east against Iran, yes removing Saddam was a bad idea. Since Iran's foothold has gotten stronger. Every time the US has intervened in other nations affairs it ended up blowing back in our face. This time will be no diffferent.

[resnor]

I think that having a murdering, torturing, raping dictator out of power is a good thing.

How did the U.S. intervening in the affairs of European nations work out in WWI and WWII? Worked out pretty good then. So, no, not EVERY time that the U.S. has intervened has it blown up in our face...just when we intervene for the wrong reasons...

[theanalogkid]

I think that having a murdering, torturing, raping dictator out of power is a good thing.

How did the U.S. intervening in the affairs of European nations work out in WWI and WWII? Worked out pretty good then. So, no, not EVERY time that the U.S. has intervened has it blown up in our face...just when we intervene for the wrong reasons...

Who cares what he does to his own people, that is not the issue of US national security. If the Iraqi's don't like it, then they should have overthrew him. I didn't see the US waltzing in to numerous other countries where the same thing either happened or is still happening today. Lets not forget it's likely that the shambles of a government in Iraq will likely be overthrown once US troops leave, being likely replaced by someone similar to Saddam.

US didn't actively intervene in World War I and II until it was pulled in. More often than not, the negative consequences have come back to hit us in the face. (Ie, supporting Batistia in Cuba, who was overthrown by Castro, overthrowing Iran's elected leader in the 50s with operation ajax, radicalizing muslim against the soviets in the 80s)

[conviction]

Walmart is the only thing keeping a lot of people going these days. Walmart deserves to succeed any more then the next company. Walmart just does it better and other companies cant keep up then survival of the fittest if you ask me. Thats what capitalism is all about.


As for throwing money at the problem, you should expect no less then 2 trillion going into the economy. If the GOP has a problem with it how about coming up with an idea other then "Do Nothing".


FYI: It was Nixon that did away with the Gold Standard.

I'm pretty pessimistic at our economic plan. You can only pump money into the economy for so long before it collapses. We get to watch first-hand as the dollar plummets. An administration which promises a great future is giving our great future a huge debt to pay. Only chance i think we got is in the green revolution and making money through that.