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Gtrght77
03-13-2009, 01:52 AM
http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/2009/03/12/steeles-abortion-comments-anger-fellow-republicans/

Michael Steele has gone and put his foot in his mouth again.

In an interview with GQ magazine, the Republican National Committee chairman described abortion as an “individual choice” and said individual states should decide its legality.

Those comments, predictably, have drawn a sharp rebuke from other Republican leaders who say he should stick to the party’s core position that abortion should be outlawed nationwide.

“Chairman Steele, as the leader of America’s pro-life conservative party, needs to re-read the Bible, the U.S. Constitution, and the 2008 GOP Platform. He then needs to get to work — or get out of the way,” said former Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell, a former rival for the RNC job.

Mike Huckabee called Steele’s remarks troubling. “For Chairman Steele to even infer that taking a life is totally left up to the individual is not only a reversal of Republican policy and principle, but it’s a violation of the most basic of human rights,” the former Arkansas governor and presidential candidate said on his blog.

Steele was widely praised as an eloquent speaker when he was elected as chairman of the Republican Party at the end of January. But since then, he’s spent plenty of time apologizing for off-hand comments that have angered many in the party and prompted some to suggest that he should resign.

In a statement sent out Thursday, Steele said he has always opposed abortion and said the Supreme Court decision that made it legal should be repealed. “The Republican Party is and will continue to be the party of life,” he said.

Also on Thursday, Steele named Rhode Island lawyer Ken McKay as his chief of staff to oversee the committee’s day-to-day operations. McKay managed the 2002 and 2006 campaigns of that state’s governor, Donald Carcieri, and served as his chief of staff.

The appointment sends a message to those who have called for Steele’s resignation: he doesn’t plan to go anywhere for a while.

photo credit: REUTERS/Molly Riley (Steele speaks after being elected Republican National Committee chairman in Washington, January 30)

I think he is right on. He is just trying to move the GOP more towards the middle because its been hjacked and moved so far right by the crazies. Have fun with that Steele.

TheSphinx 2.0
03-13-2009, 04:08 AM
I completely disagree. Being pro-life is not a far right crazy issue. Just like being pro-choice is not a far-left issue. Many fair-minded people believe that the right to life is a non-negotiable issue. I am one of them. Many fair-minded people believe that the reproducitve rights are a non-negotiable issue. I have voted democrat exclusively but I belive the democratic party should move more towards protecting the rights of the unborn.

You don't have to be a far-right "crazy Bible thumpin zealot" to be pro-life. Most of us don't bomb abortion clinics. Really we don't...

-TS

Gtrght77
03-13-2009, 05:15 AM
I completely disagree. Being pro-life is not a far right crazy issue. Just like being pro-choice is not a far-left issue. Many fair-minded people believe that the right to life is a non-negotiable issue. I am one of them. Many fair-minded people believe that the reproducitve rights are a non-negotiable issue. I have voted democrat exclusively but I belive the democratic party should move more towards protecting the rights of the unborn.

You don't have to be a far-right "crazy Bible thumpin zealot" to be pro-life. Most of us don't bomb abortion clinics. Really we don't...

-TS

I wasnt exactly saying the crazies were the pro lifers (though most are), I was saying Steele is trying the steer the ship more to the center because the crazies took it so far right. Since I can never have an abortion I dont really care to tell the truth. I still think it should be the womens choice.

TheSphinx 2.0
03-13-2009, 06:49 AM
I wasnt exactly saying the crazies were the pro lifers (though most are), I was saying Steele is trying the steer the ship more to the center because the crazies took it so far right. Since I can never have an abortion I dont really care to tell the truth. I still think it should be the womens choice.

Really...most crazies are pro-lifers? Can you prove that? Lame. Just insult a bunch of people becuase you don't agree with them. It's people like you that make any type of serious dialog on these subjects impossible. A blanket generalization with no way to back it up. Yet you would like to claim other people are intolerant...how rich...

BTW just to educate you in a 2007 poll done slightly north of 50% (can't remember exactly) of Americans said they were pro-life (about half of the people wanted abortions illegal in all cases except rape or the health of the mother and 2/3rds wanted more restrictions on it). So in your expert opinion the majority of the country is crazy...but you are rational.

Since you think the Republican party has moved too far to the right (which maybe true I don't know) I would like you to explain which priorities do you think are far-right and what are their centrist counterpoints. I want to see if you actually know what you are talking about or just parrotting some partisan hack on some website. My gut says you have no idea what you are talking about at all.

-TS

Paydirt404
03-13-2009, 10:55 AM
I often wonder how many RNC leaders have daughters that have gotten knocked up, and have had secret abortions in an attempt to not derail their father's/mother's political dreams.

I think about the RNC approach now of incorporating more minorities into the fray. Until President Obama was elected, you didnt see any in the forefront beside the token Lynn Swann. Now its Jindal, Steele......and so on. Interesting.

resnor
03-13-2009, 02:00 PM
Frankly, I do agree that it should be the state's decision on whether or not to ban abortion.

Paydirt...why would you expect there to be minorities that are conservative? Most minorities are raised to believe that the conservatives are trying to take things away from them, and Democrats are there to give them things. When conservatives talk about cutting welfare, or other social programs, who does it normally "hurt?" It "hurts" mostly minorities...so, it should be no surprise that most minorities vote Democrat.

I also disagree that the Republican party needs to go more moderate. You couldn't get more moderate than McCain, and he really didn't stand a chance. Republicans need to get back to their conservative roots. We need another Reagan to come out.

Paydirt404
03-13-2009, 02:49 PM
Frankly, I do agree that it should be the state's decision on whether or not to ban abortion.

Paydirt...why would you expect there to be minorities that are conservative? Most minorities are raised to believe that the conservatives are trying to take things away from them, and Democrats are there to give them things. When conservatives talk about cutting welfare, or other social programs, who does it normally "hurt?" It "hurts" mostly minorities...so, it should be no surprise that most minorities vote Democrat.

I also disagree that the Republican party needs to go more moderate. You couldn't get more moderate than McCain, and he really didn't stand a chance. Republicans need to get back to their conservative roots. We need another Reagan to come out.

Im not disputing what you are saying, of course everyone is going to vote for what is best for them. Just a thought, thats all. I suspect that the RNC may use a minority candidate to take out Obama in the next election, but I'm not neccesarily sure. I'm just peeping the strategy, dont get up in arms about it.

resnor
03-14-2009, 11:36 AM
I'm not up in arms...I'm just saying, I don't think that having a minority candidate for the Republicans is going to take out Obama. The minorities are still, for the most part, going to vote Democrat. The Rebublicans need to have a strong candidate that excites the base, and holds to strong conservative values.

For instance, Alan Keyes, a black man, ran for President as a Republican several times, but never stood a chance, especially with minorities.

theanalogkid
03-14-2009, 04:13 PM
It's funny you never see any of the Republican leadership come out against IVF, where the extra eggs are destroyed. Why? Because rich people get IVF done, and rich people are Republican donors.

I find it very hypocritical to come out against abortion because for them, life begins at conception, but they don't slam against IVF which destroys fertilized eggs.