Obama Sets up Silencing Those with a Moral Code!

[SUPDOG]

Yeah, my 5'4", 110Lb. wife is considered a radical Right Winger because she has a Pro-Life bumper sticker on her car.

You better watch out for our military men and women too. When they get back from Iraq, they are gonig to be trouble according to Obama and his bots.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/14/federal-agency-warns-of-radicals-on-right/


It says in Scripture that there will be a time when good is considered bad and bad is considered good. Obama is the fulfillment of that scripture.


Thought I would tell you before I am not permitted to say anymore.

[resnor]

Just "bitter Americans, clinging to their guns and religion."

[tallmike88]

The way we are headed the Federal government may have to worry about veterans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan. We swore to protect the Constitution against ALL THREATS both Foriegn and Domestic, and to follow the orders of the President and the officers appointed over us. Being a veteran myself, I will do ANYTHING to protect the constitution. I swore to protect it before I swore to obey the president.

And for people that remember me, I use to be Pro-Bush...not anymore.

Lets just say the Army helped me see things a little differently.

Now I hate all politicians. Period

I love the country, but I hate the federal government and how it has been using the Constitution as a doormat for at least the last decade or so.

[Nevada_Ballin]

Yeah, my 5'4", 110Lb. wife is considered a radical Right Winger because she has a Pro-Life bumper sticker on her car.

You better watch out for our military men and women too. When they get back from Iraq, they are gonig to be trouble according to Obama and his bots.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/14/federal-agency-warns-of-radicals-on-right/


It says in Scripture that there will be a time when good is considered bad and bad is considered good. Obama is the fulfillment of that scripture.


Thought I would tell you before I am not permitted to say anymore.

So let me get this straight (and again show how paranoid you are). Homeland Security writes up this concern. Obama has absolutely nothing to say himself about it. In fact, from the article you linked:

The White House has distanced itself from the analysis. When asked for comment on its contents, White House spokesman Nick Shapiro said, "The President is focused not on politics but rather taking the steps necessary to protect all Americans from the threat of violence and terrorism regardless of its origins. He also believes those who serve represent the best of this country, and he will continue to ensure that our veterans receive the respect and benefits they have earned."

Why must you continue to lie to people and make up fear-mongoring stories that are absolutely untrue Sup? (referring to the thread title of "Obama" trying to silence people.... )

[SUPDOG]

I have come to the conclusion that you do not live in Nevada, but rather you live in La-la.

La-la Ballin'. Book it. :)

[Gtrght77]

I have come to the conclusion that you do not live in Nevada, but rather you live in La-la.

La-la Ballin'. Book it. :)

Typical response, No facts just made up crap.

[Nevada_Ballin]

I have come to the conclusion that you do not live in Nevada, but rather you live in La-la.

La-la Ballin'. Book it. :)


lol.. we came to a conclusion years ago, it's that you come up short on your meds a lot


:)

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[sanantonio]

lol.. we came to a conclusion years ago, it's that you come up short on your meds a lot


:)

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If only that were true, ufortunatley he's been making his run through life flying free and unmedicated :p.

[theanalogkid]

This thread is fail, considering this report was initiated under the Bush Administration as a counter-point to the left-wing extremist report released in January of this year (http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/hsa-leftwing-extremists-increase-in-cyber-attacks-dated-26-january-2009.pdf) The report also does not call conservatives "extremists", it called two groups Hate groups such as the KKK and single issue groups such as abortion clinic bombers as extremists. It does not mean that if you agree with any of this issues that you are an extremist, only that extremists have been known to share these issues.

I'm sure SUP will not be posting in this thread again as the above evidence completely blows away his position and points him out as wrong.

[SUPDOG]

This thread is fail, considering this report was initiated under the Bush Administration as a counter-point to the left-wing extremist report released in January of this year (http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/hsa-leftwing-extremists-increase-in-cyber-attacks-dated-26-january-2009.pdf) The report also does not call conservatives "extremists", it called two groups Hate groups such as the KKK and single issue groups such as abortion clinic bombers as extremists. It does not mean that if you agree with any of this issues that you are an extremist, only that extremists have been known to share these issues.

I'm sure SUP will not be posting in this thread again as the above evidence completely blows away his position and points him out as wrong.

Wrong. I don't really read too many of your posts, since they are snake like and full of half truths, and after reading your garbage, I can see your stretch to make a gotcha moment. Funny how you came to this revelation? Maybe you should send it to the NYT or CNN, since there hasn't been any noise about it. LEt me give you a clue, No reports by MSM = your attempt is weak and manufactured out of hate. As usual you are the one who fails my little friend.;)

INitiated under Bush? What? You are really using potential of cyber attacks from the left as your excuse for this garbage tha Obama and his bots are using to begin their attack on Christians? You are a goof. Get a clue.

The Department of Homeland Security is warning law enforcement officials about a rise in "rightwing extremist activity," saying the economic recession, the election of America's first black president and the return of a few disgruntled war veterans could swell the ranks of white-power militias.

People who fall into the category who are considered dangerous are people who are vets and people like me who go to pro-life marches.

You are a cyber goon.

[Nevada_Ballin]

Wrong. I don't really read too many of your posts, since they are snake like and full of half truths, and after reading your garbage, I can see your stretch to make a gotcha moment. Funny how you came to this revelation? Maybe you should send it to the NYT or CNN, since there hasn't been any noise about it. LEt me give you a clue, No reports by MSM = your attempt is weak and manufactured out of hate. As usual you are the one who fails my little friend.;)

INitiated under Bush? What? You are really using potential of cyber attacks from the left as your excuse for this garbage tha Obama and his bots are using to begin their attack on Christians? You are a goof. Get a clue.

The Department of Homeland Security is warning law enforcement officials about a rise in "rightwing extremist activity," saying the economic recession, the election of America's first black president and the return of a few disgruntled war veterans could swell the ranks of white-power militias.

People who fall into the category who are considered dangerous are people who are vets and people like me who go to pro-life marches.

You are a cyber goon.

Not all vets are republican.
Not all pro-lifers are republican.

Nice attempt at trying to put people in a box (again). Sorry but the world isn't some red/blue battleground. YOUR world might be, but for most of us, it is not.

Thanks for playing..........

[theanalogkid]

Wrong. I don't really read too many of your posts, since they are snake like and full of half truths, and after reading your garbage, I can see your stretch to make a gotcha moment. Funny how you came to this revelation? Maybe you should send it to the NYT or CNN, since there hasn't been any noise about it. LEt me give you a clue, No reports by MSM = your attempt is weak and manufactured out of hate. As usual you are the one who fails my little friend.;)

INitiated under Bush? What? You are really using potential of cyber attacks from the left as your excuse for this garbage tha Obama and his bots are using to begin their attack on Christians? You are a goof. Get a clue.

The Department of Homeland Security is warning law enforcement officials about a rise in "rightwing extremist activity," saying the economic recession, the election of America's first black president and the return of a few disgruntled war veterans could swell the ranks of white-power militias.

People who fall into the category who are considered dangerous are people who are vets and people like me who go to pro-life marches.

You are a cyber goon.

Is your reading comprehension level really that low? Let me try and spell it out so it's really clear. THIS REPORT WAS ORDERED UNDER THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION NOT THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. IT IS THE SECOND PART OF TWO REPORTS DEALING WITH EXTREMISM ON BOTH SIDES. YOU MUST BE REALLY DENSE IF YOU CAN NOT UNDERSTAND THAT.

Secondly, don't quote from the Washington times article, why don't you actually take the time to read the actual report. The ACTUAL report doesn't say the government considers veterans a threat. It says right wing extremist groups may try and recruit disgruntled veterans into their ranks and that some veterans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan have joined right-wing extremist groups. Even the article says a "few disgruntled war veterans." That does not mean ALL veterans like you are claiming.

[SUPDOG]

Is it your argument that the Bush administration wrote this repor? Yes or no.

[theanalogkid]

Is it your argument that the Bush administration wrote this repor? Yes or no.

No, my argument is this report was started under the Bush Administration. The Department of Homeland Security wrote the report. Even if you believe that the Obama Administration wrote the report, the whole attempting to silence people with a moral code argument is nothing but a strawman, and you'd realize it if you actually read the report.

[MonoxideChild]

no, no no. You guys are all missing the point...

WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!! OH MY GOD WE SHOULD'VE LISTENED TO SUPDOG!!!lol

[SUPDOG]

no, no no. You guys are all missing the point...

WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!! OH MY GOD WE SHOULD'VE LISTENED TO SUPDOG!!!lol

Finally, common sense. It is always best to listen to Supdog, for he has been blessed with wisdom.

Obama has made it clear that he has a disdain for those who oppose him (i.e. those with a moral code), and the snake will do anything necessary to silence them. It is coming, give it time.

Remember what I told you.

[MonoxideChild]

No, you do't need to give it time. We're coming now. Our giant socialist-nazi-commie-leftist-liberal cult/army is growing Supdog. We want your house, we want your money, all of it. we need your wife to harbor our evil seeds so we can in turn eat them when they are aborted. MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
No, just kiddin...or am I?

[SUPDOG]

No, you do't need to give it time. We're coming now. Our giant socialist-nazi-commie-leftist-liberal cult/army is growing Supdog. We want your house, we want your money, all of it. we need your wife to harbor our evil seeds so we can in turn eat them when they are aborted. MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
No, just kiddin...or am I?

Well, I don't know if you are kidding or not, but I am certain that you are ______________!

[MonoxideChild]

Well, I don't know if you are kidding or not, but I am certain that you are ______________!

LMAO, dude how do you even leave your house?

[SUPDOG]

No, my argument is this report was started under the Bush Administration. The Department of Homeland Security wrote the report. Even if you believe that the Obama Administration wrote the report, the whole attempting to silence people with a moral code argument is nothing but a strawman, and you'd realize it if you actually read the report.

And if it wasn't a report that underhandedly paints pro-llifers and vets as potential terrorists, then why would the Obama administration "distance itself" from the report?

From Nevada Ballin's post:


The White House has distanced itself from the analysis. When asked for comment on its contents, White House spokesman Nick Shapiro said, "The President is focused not on politics but rather taking the steps necessary to protect all Americans from the threat of violence and terrorism regardless of its origins. He also believes those who serve represent the best of this country, and he will continue to ensure that our veterans receive the respect and benefits they have earned."


Why not hold your president accountable? What do you believe he didn't read the report? Hello?

How do you interpret that men and women who lay down their lives for this country are somehow suseptible to terrorism?

I guess when you despise the military, and those who respect life, you see things in a different way, no?


So much for your prediction.

[SUPDOG]

LMAO, dude how do you even leave your house?

You are an obamabot, what else would I expect.

Go play in the little kids forum. Thanks.

[theanalogkid]

And if it wasn't a report that underhandedly paints pro-llifers and vets as potential terrorists, then why would the Obama administration "distance itself" from the report?

Why not hold your president accountable? What do you believe he didn't read the report? Hello?

How do you interpret that men and women who lay down their lives for this country are somehow suseptible to terrorism?

I guess when you despise the military, and those who respect life, you see things in a different way, no?


So much for your prediction.

1) Underhandedly paints ALL pro-lifers and veterans as potential terrorists? I found nothing of the sort in the report.

2) How am I going to hold him accountable for a report he didn't even order be made? I'm suppose to hold him accountable because he read something? I read the same thing, and I'm sure a lot of other people did to.

3) Yes I'm suppose to believe in this American centrist BS, that veterans are some how infallible and capable of doing no wrong. I think everyone is quite capable of making mistakes.

4) This is just an ad hominem attack. Of which is not true.

[JoeJGibbs]

lol :p :D :p :D :p

[resnor]

I like how Analog always comes into these arguments, and ends up throwing terms around that he knows most people won't understand, as if that makes his argument that much better.

[MonoxideChild]

I like how Analog always comes into these arguments, and ends up throwing terms around that he knows most people won't understand, as if that makes his argument that much better.

What's so hard to understand?

[resnor]

LOL

Alot of people wouldn't know ad hominem argument, logical fallacy, red herring, etc. I know them, cause I took a course in college that used them, but, they're not common terms to most people. I think he'd be better off using terms that everyone can understand.

[theanalogkid]

I like how Analog always comes into these arguments, and ends up throwing terms around that he knows most people won't understand, as if that makes his argument that much better.

Yes, I have some malicious intention here. LOL. Maybe I use the term because that's what I know rather than using to it to try to take some superior position through confusion. It would also logically follow that if I know about logical fallacies that I would not be attempting to do what you are claiming as the basis of my argument.

Regardless I find Sup to be a capable enough person that if he doesn't know the meaning of a word he can go look it up in the dictionary.

[SUPDOG]

Yes, I have some malicious intention here. LOL. Maybe I use the term because that's what I know rather than using to it to try to take some superior position through confusion. It would also logically follow that if I know about logical fallacies that I would not be attempting to do what you are claiming as the basis of my argument.

Regardless I find Sup to be a capable enough person that if he doesn't know the meaning of a word he can go look it up in the dictionary.

What does you verbage have to do with me? I am an college educated man who owns a very successful business. What do you do?


Anyway, I am still laughing about the "Obam just read the memo" comment.

Fema's actions during Katrina= Bush's fault.

Barry reads a memo that takes a swipe at pro-lifers/vets= Bush's fault. :eek: Yeah, I am sur he had nothing to do with it.

Classic.

[theanalogkid]

What does you verbage have to do with me? I am an college educated man who owns a very successful business. What do you do?


Anyway, I am still laughing about the "Obam just read the memo" comment.

Fema's actions during Katrina= Bush's fault.

Barry reads a memo that takes a swipe at pro-lifers/vets= Bush's fault. :eek: Yeah, I am sur he had nothing to do with it.

Classic.


1)I asked you about what I should hold him accountable for? Just reading a document?

2) Are you really blaming Obama for reading a memo that he didn't order to be created but was being made before he took office? It also still doesn't take a swipe at pro-lifers, or veterans. The report is warning that extremist groups are using the pro-life movement to gain new members and may also try and recruit disgruntled veterans. Do you want another Timothy McVeigh to run around and bomb buildings? He was a disgruntled veteran. It's just a strawman fallacy to claim that it's taking a swipe at veterans and pro-life people. Did you actually read the real report?

[dsteve]

The way we are headed the Federal government may have to worry about veterans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan. We swore to protect the Constitution against ALL THREATS both Foriegn and Domestic, and to follow the orders of the President and the officers appointed over us. Being a veteran myself, I will do ANYTHING to protect the constitution. I swore to protect it before I swore to obey the president.

And for people that remember me, I use to be Pro-Bush...not anymore.

Lets just say the Army helped me see things a little differently.

Now I hate all politicians. Period

I love the country, but I hate the federal government and how it has been using the Constitution as a doormat for at least the last decade or so.





Theres going to be a revolution. how violent it gets depends on how extreme these statist ****s try and push their opressive agenda. The only hope the country has is if people like you and other military people split off and hold true to their oath. The progressive/statist agenda is a violent enemy of our way of life and the constitution.

[Nevada_Ballin]

Theres going to be a revolution. how violent it gets depends on how extreme these statist ****s try and push their opressive agenda. The only hope the country has is if people like you and other military people split off and hold true to their oath. The progressive/statist agenda is a violent enemy of our way of life and the constitution.

so you want everyone to split off and battle our country's violence with....... more violence?


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[SUPDOG]

so you want everyone to split off and battle our country's violence with....... more violence?


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I hope they start in Nevada................:)

[theanalogkid]

C'mon Sup, answer the question.

Do you want a bunch of Timothy McVeigh's running around the country blowing up buildings because the government didn't effectively research and combat right wing extremism?

[SUPDOG]

C'mon Sup, answer the question.

Do you want a bunch of Timothy McVeigh's running around the country blowing up buildings because the government didn't effectively research and combat right wing extremism?

Who wrote this report? Not "who may have initiated", but rather, who is it that wrote this report that in essence says "keep an eye out" on our returning military? Who?


I CERTAINLY agree that the government must watch out for T. McVeigh's. Do it, but don't insult our military in the process. Do it, but don't insult those like me, and the vast majority of pro-lifers who are just that , Pro life.

The reality, and purpose of this report was to take snipets (McVeigh) and paint a broad brush. I know you realize that Obama and crew are pro choice/ anti- military libs. How do you not see this influence in the report?


Do you think HLS, under the Obama administration would come out with a report warning us of preachers who promote white hate, or the potential reamergence of the Weather Underground? I doubt it. Don't you?

[Nevada_Ballin]

I hope they start in Nevada................:)

still old wild west in my part of nevada, peeps be carrying guns in holsters strapped to their legs right under the Reno arch.


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