Big Names on the block

[ravens10]

I'm looking to trade

Eli Manning or carson Palmer take your pick (both 91)

Terrell Owens (95)

Reggie Bush (86)

Nate Clements (92)

Edgerin James (85)

Post any offers, I'm looking for a good RB or any fast wr's, but just throw some names out and maybe we can work something out. It can be a bundle deal too.

[pigspigs76]

I was curious as to why you were getting rid of Owens.... looks like you took every RC in the LG hahahahhahahah

[pigspigs76]

I got Ray Lewis!!!

I wouldn't mind picking up Plaxico Burress in some kind of package deal to make it even.


btw i dislike Owens, hes dusty

[ravens10]

Im really solid at LB (Briggs, Tatupu, Ryans and Ware) so I'm looking maybe in my secondary but I really need a good RB.

[Lokko73]

U want Steven Jackson?

[ravens10]

U want Steven Jackson?

Im lookin for guys like Deangelo Williams, MJD and Chris Johnson pretty much any speed backs that are atleast an 89

[al10c]

Im lookin for guys like Deangelo Williams, MJD and Chris Johnson pretty much any speed backs that are atleast an 89

check the offer i sent u on ur xbl message. its a package . no hard feeling n the derrick brown thing, im sure it was a honest mistake.

[ravens10]

check the offer i sent u on ur xbl message. its a package . no hard feeling n the derrick brown thing, im sure it was a honest mistake.

If you are gunna take my win away I'm not trading with you. Had it been you I would have let it go, you had your opportunities and didnt capitalize you lost that game and dont deserve the win. I think that your competative spirit is why you did this, I dont really care about the loss but wow Brown didnt play a down on defense this season he played special teams and 2 downs on O but didnt have a catch. He's an offensive player and i think that you taking the "Cheap" win is pretty low. How about we replay the game from the start, thats more fair then taking a win on a rule that wasnt even in the rules section. All i got to say is its not about the W's or L's to me, I'm a real person and I can speak nothing but the truth and this is how i feel. its about the spirit of the game, you taking a great game between us and resorting to this petty low decision of taking points away due to a rule that isnt even stated in the rules until after the game, thats rediculous.

[al10c]

If you are gunna take my win away I'm not trading with you. Had it been you I would have let it go, you had your opportunities and didnt capitalize you lost that game and dont deserve the win. I think that your competative spirit is why you did this, I dont really care about the loss but wow Brown didnt play a down on defense this season he played special teams and 2 downs on O but didnt have a catch. He's an offensive player and i think that you taking the "Cheap" win is pretty low. How about we replay the game from the start, thats more fair then taking a win on a rule that wasnt even in the rules section.

i dont care i'll replay the game. dont pin this on me i had the option to have u booted and said it was a bit harse for the crime. and u did it to ur self cause nobody knew (not even me till u posted it in ur recap)

[al10c]

thats the equivilent of robbing a gas station then posting the video on youtube with your name and address lol

[ravens10]

i dont care i'll replay the game. dont pin this on me i had the option to have u booted and said it was a bit harse for the crime. and u did it to ur self cause nobody knew (not even me till u posted it in ur recap)

well why do you think i did it? I thought i was within the rules because the rules section said nothing about defensive players on offense and stated "all substitutions from the substitutions feature are LEGAL". Thats what i did he was put in from substitutions so i was under the impression that it was legal. Since atleast you will replay it I'll take a look at your trade.

[Lokko73]

thats the equivilent of robbing a gas station then posting the video on youtube with your name and address lol




lol Basically He indicted himself...

[xxShowstopperx]

If you are gunna take my win away I'm not trading with you. Had it been you I would have let it go, you had your opportunities and didnt capitalize you lost that game and dont deserve the win. I think that your competative spirit is why you did this, I dont really care about the loss but wow Brown didnt play a down on defense this season he played special teams and 2 downs on O but didnt have a catch. He's an offensive player and i think that you taking the "Cheap" win is pretty low. How about we replay the game from the start, thats more fair then taking a win on a rule that wasnt even in the rules section. All i got to say is its not about the W's or L's to me, I'm a real person and I can speak nothing but the truth and this is how i feel. its about the spirit of the game, you taking a great game between us and resorting to this petty low decision of taking points away due to a rule that isnt even stated in the rules until after the game, thats rediculous.

Now your lashing out at other players....what the hell am I going to have to do to get you to move on? This has nothing to do with AL10c so i would appriciate if you would drop the attitude. You clearly stated in your message to me that you would rather concede the game than replay it. Now you are saying you want to replay it? No, the game won't be replayed - take your loss and move on. We let you back into this league because we were under the impression that you have suddenly grown up and now understand its just a game and you have to take your L's. I think Lokko was 100% right now when he said a tiger doesn't lose its strips.

Can you prove me wrong and move on or we we need to part ways? I'll let your actions decide.

[xxShowstopperx]

well why do you think i did it? I thought i was within the rules because the rules section said nothing about defensive players on offense and stated "all substitutions from the substitutions feature are LEGAL". Thats what i did he was put in from substitutions so i was under the impression that it was legal. Since atleast you will replay it I'll take a look at your trade.

We will not replay the game....its over - deal with it and move on!

[Lokko73]

Since atleast you will replay it


Game is in the books, no redo's.. Its up to the commish and i probably know the answer to this one... Get over it and move on..

[ravens10]

Al is willing to replay it, I really respect him for that sorry no hard feelings al.
So if both sides are willing to replay whats the issue?
I'm still staggered, how can you enforce a rule not in the rule book im truly puzzled what part of this isnt hitting home, IT WASNT IN THE RULE BOOK. i dont know any other way to say it. If you have a rule that says any in game subs are legal, and I use that feature to sub technically that is legal. Explain how you are enforcing this if the rules weren't clear. I'm not trying to arguementative but I'm just amazed how you can first of all have two rules that contradict eachother and ontop of that one of the rules wasn't put in place until after the game. please explain i'm not looking to start stuff I just want an in depth explanation of how given the situation, you can deduct points. Again I dont mean this in any malicous way or any of that I'm not being agressive just looking for answers.

[Booker T316]

After the way you played in our game you should cut your losses. but your not that smart. since i was unable to upload the video of our game, I dont have the proof of you breaking the rules, again. The madden Gods must be looking out for you. but i belive that people cant change their spots so its only a matter of time that we will have the proof to kick you out. you no how to cheat so you wont get wins for cheating. injoy your second loss.

[ravens10]

After the way you played in our game you should cut your losses. but your not that smart. since i was unable to upload the video of our game, I dont have the proof of you breaking the rules, again. The madden Gods must be looking out for you. but i belive that people cant change their spots so its only a matter of time that we will have the proof to kick you out. you no how to cheat so you wont get wins for cheating. injoy your second loss.

How did i cheat please explain, i broke the rules in no way shape or form

[Lokko73]

Dwight Freeney is available for a very good Safety... Come correct or dont come at me at all...

[xxShowstopperx]

Al is willing to replay it, I really respect him for that sorry no hard feelings al.
So if both sides are willing to replay whats the issue?
I'm still staggered, how can you enforce a rule not in the rule book im truly puzzled what part of this isnt hitting home, IT WASNT IN THE RULE BOOK. i dont know any other way to say it. If you have a rule that says any in game subs are legal, and I use that feature to sub technically that is legal. Explain how you are enforcing this if the rules weren't clear. I'm not trying to arguementative but I'm just amazed how you can first of all have two rules that contradict eachother and ontop of that one of the rules wasn't put in place until after the game. please explain i'm not looking to start stuff I just want an in depth explanation of how given the situation, you can deduct points. Again I dont mean this in any malicous way or any of that I'm not being agressive just looking for answers.

Here's the deal man. At some point common sense has to come into play. I'm not a lawyer and this is not a contract so I don't need to put everything in writting. I know the rules are never going to be perfect and I'm sure if I wanted to dig through them a little more I maybe could find a loop hole. Do I have to tell you that you cannot put a offensive tackle at WR? Do I have to add that to the rules? This was the exact reason why I posted the new rules thread and asked for any suggestions and/or talk about anything that was confusing or unclear. Did you post and ask your question? No. Come on man - your giving me a headache.

If you never caused any problems in the past and had a clean history, we wouldn't be talking about this right now. The fact remains that you have a history of quitting games, bad mouthing other members, and telling everyone to go f*** off because you can create a better league.

I'm sick of spending my time writting this crap. This league with you in it is taking a lot out of me. I think we need to cut ties......

[Booker T316]

How did i cheat please explain, i broke the rules in no way shape or form


Why is it that you can't tell that your breaking the rules? don't ack like you haven't done this. But here you go.

*You can't intentionally drop your QB back 10+ yards just to get receivers open, or to take the ball and run.
Now this was what you did all game long, as I told you in the lobby its good but in this league its not.

* Safety Baiting Glitch - Baiting the safety out of zone coverage by rolling out is considered a glitch. For that reason, the following rules apply:
*You cannnot: Sprint out of the pocket to the sideline and throw down field to the opposite side.

Now another BS that you did was running the nohuddle after you ran the screen deep post play. But I don't have the video proof, and then you still had to respond and claim you broke no rules. Ask any Cop if that's a sign of guilt.

[ravens10]

Here's the deal man. At some point common sense has to come into play. I'm not a lawyer and this is not a contract so I don't need to put everything in writting. I know the rules are never going to be perfect and I'm sure if I wanted to dig through them a little more I maybe could find a loop hole. Do I have to tell you that you cannot put a offensive tackle at WR? Do I have to add that to the rules? This was the exact reason why I posted the new rules thread and asked for any suggestions and/or talk about anything that was confusing or unclear. Did you post and ask your question? No. Come on man - your giving me a headache.

If you never caused any problems in the past and had a clean history, we wouldn't be talking about this right now. The fact remains that you have a history of quitting games, bad mouthing other members, and telling everyone to go f*** off because you can create a better league.

I'm sick of spending my time writting this crap. This league with you in it is taking a lot out of me. I think we need to cut ties......

you know what ok Ill take that loss if it was that big of a deal im fine with it. I really want to see what book says but I'm cool with that.

[pigspigs76]

^ that deep post isent a glitch, a fade streak can beet zone coverage just as easily. It means you have to play a more balance D such as man coverage... so that would be EA's fault not the plays fault.

[Booker T316]

Dwight Freeney is available for a very good Safety... Come correct or dont come at me at all...

I got B dawk for you.

[ravens10]

Why is it that you can't tell that your breaking the rules? don't ack like you haven't done this. But here you go.

Now this was what you did all game long, as I told you in the lobby its good but in this league its not.

Now another BS that you did was running the nohuddle after you ran the screen deep post play. But I don't have the video proof, and then you still had to respond and claim you broke no rules. Ask any Cop if that's a sign of guilt.

Ok first off it also says dont expect them to stay put if your getting blitzed. You sent the house often you were getting alot of pressure obviously I have to move out of harms way. It wasnt intentional I was just tired of getting hit. I didnt bait the saftey out either I threw to the same side I rolled out to which is legal. i threw a screen and then took advantage of your personel (which in the rules is a reason listed TO use it,take advantage of personel, It even gives an example "if the D has alot of db's on the field and you run it you can no huddle to take advantage of the personel) You had 8 in the box so i went deep its common sense I saw a chance to catch you on putting so many guys in the box and it paid off what else can i say you could have audibled, its not like you had to stay with that formation.



You might feel this way just from sour grapes coming off a loss. We all get them I certainly do. But think about it rolled out to the same side i threw to. I had to scramble to get away from the pressure. I did RC alot that game and I'm sorry if it got you frustrated, I'll try to not RC so much. But sleep on it cause this seems unusual coming from a respected guy like you.

[Booker T316]

^ that deep post isent a glitch, a fade streak can beet zone coverage just as easily. It means you have to play a more balance D such as man coverage... so that would be EA's fault not the plays fault.

In a game with the QB in pocket I would agree, but he ran the screen play. As he knew what happen when you have 3 WR on one side and the sprint the QB out of pocket, but never mind.

[ravens10]

^ that deep post isent a glitch, a fade streak can beet zone coverage just as easily. It means you have to play a more balance D such as man coverage... so that would be EA's fault not the plays fault.

thanks man, it was just catching him playing alot of zone and putting alot of guys up in the box. so i went deep, al10c runs a similir play and jimmy uses the same exact one as me its not baiting the saftey it just beats alot of different zones. I rolled out to the side I threw to whats the problem. also its snugs flipped which is 2 wr's on each side. The rules say i can throw to the side i rolled out to.

[Lokko73]

I got B dawk for you.


Troy P. is who i had in mind

[Booker T316]

As I stated before, with out the video to show what you did its a mute point. But in your own words you did the RC on dame near every play. Did I say anything about that? NO. Just grow up.

[al10c]

enough of this crap now whos gonna trade me a fast rb.. and cryme sometimes its just better to turn the other cheek and live to fight another day. yea its just a deep post nuthin cheesy about ot. i cant run it on lokko.

[Booker T316]

Troy P. is who i had in mind

LOL Troy is untouchable, you want dawk yes or no?

[ravens10]

Ok book im sorry but it sounds like alot of your claims are from some frustration. I'll try to cut down on the rc ok, its over as far as im concerned.

Al10c lets work out this reggie bush deal

[pigspigs76]

so is this the official trade thread then? LMAO

[Lokko73]

LOL Troy is untouchable, you want dawk yes or no?

We can work something out..

[al10c]

so is this the official trade thread then? LMAO

lol thats classic. when we playin

[al10c]

book check ur trades.

[pigspigs76]

how about now^

[Booker T316]

Ok book im sorry but it sounds like alot of your claims are from some frustration. I'll try to cut down on the rc ok, its over as far as im concerned.


Grow up man, I could care less if I win any games. My life doesn't revolve around Madden like yours. And to be honest with you your not that good. To take any and all ways to exploit the game to win an online game is sad. But life is lonely when you don't have freinds, you do have some?

[al10c]

how about now^

k i'll get on now

[pigspigs76]

book^ that was kinda mean lol

BTW ITS OFFICIAL RAY LEWIS (97 MLB) IS ON THE BLOCK!
-its not becuase i don't want him... he sick! but my defence is kinda unusual and I cant use him to his strengths 99 play recognition :) :) :)

[Booker T316]

book check ur trades.

Post what your trade is, in a new thread. So when I am at work I will check it out. Thanks

[Booker T316]

book^ that was kinda mean lol


Lol yes it was, I do this at work every day. It keeps me sharp, King of the comebacks.

[Lokko73]

Never mind BookerT, im good..

[ravens10]

Book i was born into the ghetto in Oakland, my dad took all the money when he walked out on my mom and we lost our house and had to move to the slums of east baltimore with my aunt and uncle. Then my older brother got shot down the street of my aunts house. My mom couldnt take living there after that and we moved to new orleans. My mom re married and I got a full ride scholarship to play football. Madden isnt my life, I'm out of school and share my xbox with my roommate who plays more than I do. Book your a sore loser comin at me like that, your a little old to be so immature its just a game. You want the win you take go ahead change it if you want. I really dont care its a video game dude. I dont think im that good cause im not you just got sour grapes. Saying i cheated is a cop out. Guys that dont even like me have agreed with me on this one.

Go ahead if you REALLY think i "cheated" then change it. Im a nice guy book. But dont come at me like that. you aint vince young so dont clash with the Titan.

[xxShowstopperx]

^ that deep post isent a glitch, a fade streak can beet zone coverage just as easily. It means you have to play a more balance D such as man coverage... so that would be EA's fault not the plays fault.

What this rule is suppose to represent is when the QB rolls out of the pocket and in cover 3 coverage the safety follows the QB instead of sticking in his deep coverage. I wouldn't call it a glitch, just a little AI exploit. However, there is a counter to it.

[pigspigs76]

^yeah cover 4 man blitz qb contain user cover lol

[pigspigs76]

i c u al10c! gg check out the game recap i wrote... i think the in picture says it all lol

[al10c]

i c u al10c! gg check out the game recap i wrote... i think the in picture says it all lol

ur tough man. ur definately not the rite guy to be messing w a new pb on lol. just hope we can keep our teams and i get another shot next season.

[al10c]

Book i was born into the ghetto in Oakland, my dad took all the money when he walked out on my mom and we lost our house and had to move to the slums of east baltimore with my aunt and uncle. Then my older brother got shot down the street of my aunts house. My mom couldnt take living there after that and we moved to new orleans. My mom re married and I got a full ride scholarship to play football. Madden isnt my life, I'm out of school and share my xbox with my roommate who plays more than I do. Book your a sore loser comin at me like that, your a little old to be so immature its just a game. You want the win you take go ahead change it if you want. I really dont care its a video game dude. I dont think im that good cause im not you just got sour grapes. Saying i cheated is a cop out. Guys that dont even like me have agreed with me on this one.

Go ahead if you REALLY think i "cheated" then change it. Im a nice guy book. But dont come at me like that. you aint vince young so dont clash with the Titan.

after all u been through and have ahead of u , u should just let the small stuff go. so not worth the stress. am i rite? good trade , think i over paid but that what i wanted. i'll post it.

[Booker T316]

Lol, damn you overcame a lot. But haven't learned a thing. Reading is fundamental. Most people just skim over things then to read it, and comprehend it. So I will leave you with this, To Error is Human to forgive, Devine.

[ravens10]

gg pigs my game froze after the game so I didnt get my guys individual stats. Your D is tuffffff that TO tipped pick was kinda bs though haha, but then again it didnt really matter LT chewed me up on the ground, I had him in the backfield and he just tossed my guys outta the way (man i need better tacklers). First loss of the season is the worst one. I'll catch you in the playoffs

[pigspigs76]

^ i put in some of your stats... your hogging on the good tall WR's! trade some of em i will give you Welker for Plax LMAO why is welker a 93 hes so bad

[ravens10]

^ i put in some of your stats... your hogging on the good tall WR's! trade some of em i will give you Welker for Plax LMAO why is welker a 93 hes so bad

Plax is my best wr I will trade TO though imo he's terrible. Welker is bad too (in the game). I'll trade TO for a cb that is a solid tackler

[Lokko73]

T.O. for Chris Mcalister??

[pigspigs76]

I got a really good CB tackler i think he has something like 70 tackle but he is only like 89 speed... i think he is something like 88 overall or something i really dont know i will post it 2night tho