U.S. combat troops to withdraw from Iraq cities

[Gtrght77]

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsMaps/idUSTRE55S6SN20090629



Finalllllly..........

[sideoutshu]

Finally what? They are still freakin there!

[Gtrght77]

Finally what? They are still freakin there!

Step one of leaving Iraq is under way. Fug that place, if we had all that money back we spent there things would be much much different.

[Wild Bunch]

Step one of leaving Iraq is under way. Fug that place, if we had all that money back we spent there things would be much much different.

I doubt it. Just imagine all the things we could find to waste money on.

[Gtrght77]

I doubt it. Just imagine all the things we could find to waste money on.

If its spent on anyone here in the US it would be much much less of a waste in my opinion.

[sideoutshu]

How is moving troops from cities to places near cities the "first step"? are they being moved to the airport?

[Wild Bunch]

If its spent on anyone here in the US it would be much much less of a waste in my opinion.

I'm thinking more along the lines of throwing it into the ocean.

[kevin21boston]

if we had all that money back we spent there things would be much much different.


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it's not "would" be much different. we have a test case. it's obamas stimulus plan. and it hasnt done sh1t. stimulus was/is a waste of money, not the iraq war.

[Gtrght77]

lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll lllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

it's not "would" be much different. we have a test case. it's obamas stimulus plan. and it hasnt done sh1t. stimulus was/is a waste of money, not the iraq war.

Just because the stimulus might be a waste does not mean that the Iraq war wasnt a waste.


As for throwing money into the ocean, that is about what we did with those pallets of cash we shipped over there when the war started. Not many of you cared much about that. At least be conistent. How is it worse when Obama does it then when Bush did?

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/february2007/070207_b_cash.htm


The Federal Reserve sent record payouts of more than $4 billion in cash to Baghdad on giant pallets aboard military planes shortly before the United States gave control back to Iraqis, lawmakers said Tuesday.

The money, which had been held by the United States, came from Iraqi oil exports, surplus dollars from the U.N.-run oil-for-food program and frozen assets belonging to the ousted Saddam Hussein regime.

Bills weighing a total of 363 tons were loaded onto military aircraft in the largest cash shipments ever made by the Federal Reserve, said Rep. Henry Waxman, chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.

"Who in their right mind would send 363 tons of cash into a war zone? But that's exactly what our government did," the California Democrat said during a hearing reviewing possible waste, fraud and abuse of funds in Iraq.

[Wild Bunch]

Just because the stimulus might be a waste does not mean that the Iraq war wasnt a waste.


As for throwing money into the ocean, that is about what we did with those pallets of cash we shipped over there when the war started. Not many of you cared much about that. At least be conistent. How is it worse when Obama does it then when Bush did?

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/february2007/070207_b_cash.htm

This is exactly what I mean. I bet we would just throw trillions into the ocean before we used it intelligently.

[sideoutshu]

As for throwing money into the ocean, that is about what we did with those pallets of cash we shipped over there when the war started. Not many of you cared much about that. At least be conistent. How is it worse when Obama does it then when Bush did?
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/february2007/070207_b_cash.htm

The funniest thing is that all of these liberal kool-aid drinkers were the first to scream at the top of their lungs that Bush was the worst president ever, a criminal, a liar, etc.

Now, their defenses of Obama amount to "so what? Bush did it."

[sanantonio]

The funniest thing is that all of these liberal kool-aid drinkers were the first to scream at the top of their lungs that Bush was the worst president ever, a criminal, a liar, etc.

Now, their defenses of Obama amount to "so what? Bush did it."

They aren't going to condemn Obama and you aren't going to condemn Bush. This is the very same partisan bullshyt that keeps the whole system propped up and running like a well oiled machine. Both sides drink kool-aid, enjoy!!!

[sideoutshu]

They aren't going to condemn Obama and you aren't going to condemn Bush. This is the very same partisan bullshyt that keeps the whole system propped up and running like a well oiled machine. Both sides drink kool-aid, enjoy!!!

Are you kidding me? I have criticized Bush a great deal on this forum over the past years. I think his stances on a number of issues are downright kooky (stem cell research for example). I don't stick up for Bush, I stick up for what I believe in, and what I believe in often times comports with the republican party platform. Couple that with how disgusted I am with Obama saying one thing to get elected and doing another after being elected, and there you have my stance on the majority of issues in this forum.

[Gtrght77]

When Obama does somthing as bad or worse then Bush I will not be defending it. It's not any defense that Bush did it, but when he did you didn't care, and when Obama does the same thing you run around with your arms in the air yelling its the end. :rolleyes:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=66442

For one I am not happy about the Bilderberger meeting, those be the real terrorists.

[sideoutshu]

When Obama does somthing as bad or worse then Bush I will not be defending it. It's not any defense that Bush did it, but when he did you didn't care, and when Obama does the same thing you run around with your arms in the air yelling its the end. :rolleyes:

When Bush did what? Was he secretly trying to socialize healthcare and I didn't see? Was he bailing out GM? What exactly did Bush do that I "didn't care" about?

Don't get started about running around yelling with your arms in the air, cause you just did that on this forum for the last 2 years.

[sanantonio]

Are you kidding me? I have criticized Bush a great deal on this forum over the past years. I think his stances on a number of issues are downright kooky (stem cell research for example). I don't stick up for Bush, I stick up for what I believe in, and what I believe in often times comports with the republican party platform. Couple that with how disgusted I am with Obama saying one thing to get elected and doing another after being elected, and there you have my stance on the majority of issues in this forum.


There in lies the problem both party platforms have been broken for decades because they are exclusionary by nature. It's like the WMIM say's instead of the two party system we need to be looking for the after party. :p

[Gtrght77]

When Bush did what? Was he secretly trying to socialize healthcare and I didn't see? Was he bailing out GM? What exactly did Bush do that I "didn't care" about?

Don't get started about running around yelling with your arms in the air, cause you just did that on this forum for the last 2 years.

Whatever, the last two years I was more or less jaded by everything that he did. It was just after he won reelection that most of us were up in arms.

[Gtrght77]

There in lies the problem both party platforms have been broken for decades because they are exclusionary by nature. It's like the WMIM say's instead of the two party system we need to be looking for the after party. :p

We need three real parties at least in my opinion. The 50-50 party system is set up so we don't really do anything.

[dsteve]

You don't need parties, you need people. A thrid party would eventually end up in ruins just like the two versions of fascism we have now.

[resnor]

When Obama does somthing as bad or worse then Bush I will not be defending it. It's not any defense that Bush did it, but when he did you didn't care, and when Obama does the same thing you run around with your arms in the air yelling its the end. :rolleyes:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=66442

For one I am not happy about the Bilderberger meeting, those be the real terrorists.

For what it's worth, it seems to me that most of the anti-Obama stuff on here is from conservatives pointing out how hypocritical libs are for their defense of Obama, when compared to how angry you guys were with Bush.

[MonoxideChild]

There are more than 2 parties, there's actually a ton of pol parties in the U.S. Unfortunately they are excluded by the big 2 because both Dems/Reps are both the same centralized crap heap. The whole left/right thing is garbage. It's funny how when someone that has a legitimate point of view that differs from the dems or the gop, they are treated like lepers. Where was Kucinich? Where was the Green Party? Where was the actual Socialist Party? Granted some of these guys seem a little eccentric, but at least they have some kind of POV that doesn't have to do with the same money hungry centralists we've had for the last 40 years.

[dsteve]

for what it's worth, you have two parties that matter with the libertarians slowly gaining speed. The libertarians are basically what the republican party should be, the compasionate republicans (spends on social issues) are what the dems used to be and the dems are just being stolen by the left wing nut jobs. Ron Paul is the the best conservative canidate to run but the GOP anf FOX news makes him out to be a cartoon character. Go back and watch his debates, its creepy how right he was.