Acorn: Corrupt and Disgusting. Just like we told you.

[SUPDOG]

What is sad is that nothing would have happened if it wasn't for FOX news. I think we should all give them a round of applause for helping begin the takedown of this corrupt Obama pet organization! ;)



The Census Director has sent a letter to the National Headquarters of ACORN notifying the group that the Census Bureau is severing all ties with the community organizing group for all work having to do with the 2010 census. ACORN had previously been tapped to help with low level data gathering. A copy of the Director's letter has been sent to Congress and relevant committees, as well as ACORN.

This latest news comes as two more ACORN officials were fired Friday after a second video surfaced showing staffers in the community organizers' Washington office offering to help a man and woman posing as a pimp and prostitute acquire illegal home loans that would help them set up a brothel.



http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/11/census-bureau-severs-ties-acorn/

[Gtrght77]

Who cares?

[SUPDOG]

Who cares?

Yeah, no one does now huh? LOL! What a tool!:p

[Gtrght77]

Yeah, no one does now huh? LOL! What a tool!:p

No one did then either. Except you and fox news.

[sideoutshu]

Obama's bedfellows at their best. These are the people who got him elected.

[Gtrght77]

Obama's bedfellows at their best. These are the people who got him elected.

I thought that was the Bush and Palin? :p

[Nevada_Ballin]

What is sad is that nothing would have happened if it wasn't for FOX news. I think we should all give them a round of applause for helping begin the takedown of this corrupt Obama pet organization! ;)



The Census Director has sent a letter to the National Headquarters of ACORN notifying the group that the Census Bureau is severing all ties with the community organizing group for all work having to do with the 2010 census. ACORN had previously been tapped to help with low level data gathering. A copy of the Director's letter has been sent to Congress and relevant committees, as well as ACORN.

This latest news comes as two more ACORN officials were fired Friday after a second video surfaced showing staffers in the community organizers' Washington office offering to help a man and woman posing as a pimp and prostitute acquire illegal home loans that would help them set up a brothel.



http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/11/census-bureau-severs-ties-acorn/

I saw this story on CNN 2 days ago. Did we ever find out how many Republican Congressmen were the johns looking for a "performing artist"?

:)


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[resnor]

I saw this story on CNN 2 days ago. Did we ever find out how many Republican Congressmen were the johns looking for a "performing artist"?

:)


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First of all, this story broke on Glenn Beck and Breitbart.

Secondly, it was a FAKE prostitute.

THIRD, what would Republicans looking for sex have to do with Acorn being a corrupt organization? An organization slated to get as much as $8.6 BILLION from the "stimulus" package?

Nice try at deflection.

[SUPDOG]

First of all, this story broke on Glenn Beck and Breitbart.

Secondly, it was a FAKE prostitute.

THIRD, what would Republicans looking for sex have to do with Acorn being a corrupt organization? An organization slated to get as much as $8.6 BILLION from the "stimulus" package?

Nice try at deflection.

YEs, deflection/"no big deal" defense was expected. Wasn't it NB who said time and time again that since there has been no real "proof" that ACORN is corrupt he has no problem with them? Hmmmm........

[R-ILLA]

Obama hangs with Gangstas

and

Bush hangs with Thugs

and

Clinton hangs with Assasins.

Put em all in a melting pot, boil em up, and it taste like a perfect mixture of gumbo.
:o

[sideoutshu]

why is obama giving these criminals 8 billion in stimulus money gain?

[sideoutshu]

I saw this story on CNN 2 days ago. Did we ever find out how many Republican Congressmen were the johns looking for a "performing artist"?

:)


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FAIL post............

[Nevada_Ballin]

First of all, this story broke on Glenn Beck and Breitbart.

Secondly, it was a FAKE prostitute.

THIRD, what would Republicans looking for sex have to do with Acorn being a corrupt organization? An organization slated to get as much as $8.6 BILLION from the "stimulus" package?

Nice try at deflection.

1. Where did i say who "broke" the story? No where. i said i saw it 2 days before that post on CNN. So defensive of your Faux News... lol.

2. Well aware it was a setup. Also aware that the backers of this setup tried unsuccessfully in several other ACORN offices before this one.

3. The point is there is corruption everywhere. If a Republican gets busted with a hooker does that mean the entire party is guilty of using hookers ---- or is that something that should be indivdualized?

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[Nevada_Ballin]

YEs, deflection/"no big deal" defense was expected. Wasn't it NB who said time and time again that since there has been no real "proof" that ACORN is corrupt he has no problem with them? Hmmmm........

If you want to connect the actions of individuals as a means of bringing down an entire organization then i guess there isn't one legit organization in this country - we need to disgrace and disassemble every single one of them.


This is the problem with a lot of people. Too much time concentrating on bad apples.


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[resnor]

1. Where did i say who "broke" the story? No where. i said i saw it 2 days before that post on CNN. So defensive of your Faux News... lol.

2. Well aware it was a setup. Also aware that the backers of this setup tried unsuccessfully in several other ACORN offices before this one.

3. The point is there is corruption everywhere. If a Republican gets busted with a hooker does that mean the entire party is guilty of using hookers ---- or is that something that should be indivdualized?

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Really? What offices did they fail in? They were also successful in DC...

[resnor]

They've been successful in a third office now...I believe it was New York this time. Strange, for such a clean organization, they certainly seem to have alot of bad apples.

[SUPDOG]

They've been successful in a third office now...I believe it was New York this time. Strange, for such a clean organization, they certainly seem to have alot of bad apples.

Yeah, if they would have done it "the right way", they would have done it 40-50+ times before they revealed thier findings. I would estimate 75% would have promoted prostitution via govt fundings. Funny how dumb these people are still, no? Dont' they watch FOX? LOLOL!


This is how Fair and BAlanced could benefit our corrupted ACORN friends! LOL! :eek:

[Gtrght77]

If you want to connect the actions of individuals as a means of bringing down an entire organization then i guess there isn't one legit organization in this country - we need to disgrace and disassemble every single one of them.


This is the problem with a lot of people. Too much time concentrating on bad apples.


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Ie

Catholic Church.

[sanantonio]

This is going to end up bad for somebody and I don't think it's ACORN.

[resnor]

This is going to end up bad for somebody and I don't think it's ACORN.

If I were these two, I'd be worried about ending up at the bottom of a river next to Jimmy Hoffa...

[sanantonio]

If I were these two, I'd be worried about ending up at the bottom of a river next to Jimmy Hoffa...


No I think thier problems are going to come from the D.A.


“Baltimore, MD – September 11, 2009 – We have received inquiries from citizens and the media asking whether the Baltimore City State’s Attorneys Office would initiate a criminal investigation for acts allegedly committed at ACORN offices located in Baltimore. The only information received in reference to this alleged criminal behavior was a YouTube video. Upon review by this office, the video appears to be incomplete. In addition, the audio portion could possibly have been obtained in violation of Maryland Law, Annotated Code of Maryland Courts and Judicial Proceedings Article 10-402, which requires two party consent . . . If it is determined that the audio portion now being heard on YouTube was illegally obtained, it is also illegal under Maryland Law to willfully use or willfully disclose the content of said audio. The penalty for the unlawful interception, disclosure or use of it is a felony punishable up to 5 years.”

Second, ACORN’s attorneys on September 10th sent a letter to Roger Ailes, President of Fox News, stating ACORN’s unequivocal position that the “videotape is doctored” and the “voiceovers change the real dialog,” and demanding that Fox “cease publication of these tapes unless it can produce proof that the conversations actually took place.” You can read the letter on ACORN's website here.

In a follow-up letter, on September 11th, ACORN’s attorneys stated that the “filming and broadcast of the conversations at the Baltimore ACORN offices violates 10-402(a)(1) of the Courts and Judicial Proceedings Article of the Maryland Code, which makes it unlawful to willfully intercept, endeavor to intercept, or procure any other person to intercept any oral conversation unless all parties to the communication consent . . . .” This letter is posted in its entirety here.

[sideoutshu]

No I think thier problems are going to come from the D.A.

The epitome of liberal hypocrisy. Fire the people for wrongdoing and then attack the whistle blower for defaming them? GTFO

[sideoutshu]

If you want to connect the actions of individuals as a means of bringing down an entire organization then i guess there isn't one legit organization in this country - we need to disgrace and disassemble every single one of them.


This is the problem with a lot of people. Too much time concentrating on bad apples.


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Gimme a freakin break man. They tried three times and were successful EVERY TIME! You think its just a coincidence that the 3 offices they tried happened to be filled with criminals?

Even you with your partisan view of things should have enough common sense to know that the actions of these people represent an organizational philosophy, not a "few bad apples".

If these people had tried and failed at any ACORN office, don't you think that were would have heard about it by now? The super butt-hurt liberal media would have been all over it.

I mean christ man, did you see the Brooklyn office? The whole freakin office was weighing in on how to best launder the money earned from prostitution and how to defraud the IRS by claiming to be a "freelancer". Do you think that these complete and utter idiots working for ACORN learned things like how much money to put into a bank account without raising suspicion; how to disguise the source of income; etc. on their own? Is there a "Defrauding the Government for Dummies" book out there somewhere now?

[sideoutshu]

Ie

Catholic Church.

There we go with the liberal rationalizing again.

So let me get this straight. What ACORN is doing is ok because the Catholic Church is messed up too? How does that make any sense?

[Gtrght77]

There we go with the liberal rationalizing again.

So let me get this straight. What ACORN is doing is ok because the Catholic Church is messed up to? How does that make any sense?

That's not what I said, do you use any logic in your thinking process at all?

My cousin Vinny would make a better lawyer then you lol.


Nevada was saying that a few bad apples dont make the entire batch bad. I was just responding with the Catholic Church as a example to that. I really don't care about ACORN or what they did. I am sure there is a group doing the equivalent act for the GOP somewhere.

[sanantonio]

The epitome of liberal hypocrisy. Fire the people for wrongdoing and then attack the whistle blower for defaming them? GTFO

I knew you were a para-legal because an attorney would understand that maybe the law was broken.

[sideoutshu]

I knew you were a para-legal because an attorney would understand that maybe the law was broken.

Are you guys really THAT jealous that you have to constantly hate on me for being a lawyer? I mean come on. Is that really the best you got? You can't argue about the issues so you turn to "you must be a bad lawyer"?:confused:

Wow, talk about owned.

PS. Laws are broken all the time, and the D.A. never gets involved. What would the motivation (other then the liberal agenda) be to pursue this minor offense with all of the violent crime going on in the City?

[sanantonio]

Are you guys really THAT jealous that you have to constantly hate on me for being a lawyer? I mean come on. Is that really the best you got? You can't argue about the issues so you turn to "you must be a bad lawyer"?:confused:

Wow, talk about owned.

PS. Laws are broken all the time, and the D.A. never gets involved. What would the motivation (other then the liberal agenda) be to pursue this minor offense with all of the violent crime going on in the City?

Your the one that said you were a lawyer so yep it's fun to rag on you whether you are or whether your not. By the way I didn't say you were an attorney I said you were a para-legal and no offense to any other para-legals on this board.

[resnor]

It's up to four ACORN offices now. Where were the failed attempts again?

Oh yeah, one other thing: ACORN was breaking the law by being in Maryland at all. They had their permits revoked awhile ago. Perhaps the DA should prosecute that. Also, if the videos were doctored as charged, why has ACORN fired four employees now over it?

[sideoutshu]

Your the one that said you were a lawyer so yep it's fun to rag on you whether you are or whether your not. By the way I didn't say you were an attorney I said you were a para-legal and no offense to any other para-legals on this board.

Where in this thread did I say "I am a lawyer rarrrrrrrrrrr!" cause I must have missed it.

Once again, why is it that you think insulting my skill as an attorney is in any way relevant to a political discussion? Why is it funny to "rag on" someone for being successful? Other then jealousy, what reason could there be to "rag on" someone for achieving success in life?

I believe this is what we in the legal community (oh noez! I talked about my job! :eek::rolleyes: ) call the ad hominem fallacy.


An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument. Typically, this fallacy involves two steps. First, an attack against the character of person making the claim, her circumstances, or her actions is made (or the character, circumstances, or actions of the person reporting the claim). Second, this attack is taken to be evidence against the claim or argument the person in question is making (or presenting). This type of "argument" has the following form:


1. Person A makes claim X.
2. Person B makes an attack on person A.
3. Therefore A's claim is false.

The reason why an Ad Hominem (of any kind) is a fallacy is that the character, circumstances, or actions of a person do not (in most cases) have a bearing on the truth or falsity of the claim being made (or the quality of the argument being made).

[sanantonio]

Where in this thread did I say "I am a lawyer rarrrrrrrrrrr!" cause I must have missed it.

Once again, why is it that you think insulting my skill as an attorney is in any way relevant to a political discussion? Why is it funny to "rag on" someone for being successful? Other then jealousy, what reason could there be to "rag on" someone for achieving success in life?

I believe this is what we in the legal community (oh noez! I talked about my job! :eek::rolleyes: ) call the ad hominem fallacy.

Does it have to be in this thread? Exxxxcuuuuuuse me!!! All lawyers are fair game even if they are para-legals didn't you learn that in para-legal school?

Now if I have in any way hurt your feelings or defamed your character I would just like to take this time in all sincerity and with all due respect to say go touch yourself and get over it!! :p

[sideoutshu]

Does it have to be in this thread? Exxxxcuuuuuuse me!!! All lawyers are fair game even if they are para-legals didn't you learn that in para-legal school?

Now if I have in any way hurt your feelings or defamed your character I would just like to take this time in all sincerity and with all due respect to say go touch yourself and get over it!! :p

I'd rather you just address the issues in my posts or not reply at all.

[sanantonio]

I'd rather you just address the issues in my posts or not reply at all.


If you come with any valid issues will do, as to not replying at all that just ain't gonna happen :D.

[sideoutshu]

If you come with any valid issues will do, as to not replying at all that just ain't gonna happen :D.

I guess pointing out the hypocrisy involved with threatening prosecution against someone who blew the whistle on your criminal activity is lost on you?

[sanantonio]

I guess pointing out the hypocrisy involved with threatening prosecution against someone who blew the whistle on your criminal activity is lost on you?

No the hypocrisy is for not calling out both for breaking the law.

[SUPDOG]

no the hypocrisy is for not calling out both for breaking the law.

..............lololol!

[Nevada_Ballin]

Gimme a freakin break man. They tried three times and were successful EVERY TIME! You think its just a coincidence that the 3 offices they tried happened to be filled with criminals?

Even you with your partisan view of things should have enough common sense to know that the actions of these people represent an organizational philosophy, not a "few bad apples".

If these people had tried and failed at any ACORN office, don't you think that were would have heard about it by now? The super butt-hurt liberal media would have been all over it.

I mean christ man, did you see the Brooklyn office? The whole freakin office was weighing in on how to best launder the money earned from prostitution and how to defraud the IRS by claiming to be a "freelancer". Do you think that these complete and utter idiots working for ACORN learned things like how much money to put into a bank account without raising suspicion; how to disguise the source of income; etc. on their own? Is there a "Defrauding the Government for Dummies" book out there somewhere now?

You should try watching a real news channel for a change:


The conservative filmmakers unsuccessfully attempted similar ruses at the group's offices in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Los Angeles, California, and New York, Levenson said.

>>>>> http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/10/acorn.prostitution/index.html


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[Nevada_Ballin]

I do have to get myself "on record" here before the Konservative Klowns try to imply where i stand on this when they don't really know --- Investigations are needed for this group. If they are shown to corrupt from the top down then by all means, prosecute away. But I'm not gonna jump on a bandwagon that is based on media reporting from a liberal headhunter like Fox (MSNBC is a conservative headhunter as well and I wouldn't go on anything they'd say either).

Back to point though, ACORN has put themselves in a position where they need to open their doors, their books and their phone records for investigation.


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[sanantonio]

Originally Posted by sanantonio
no the hypocrisy is for not calling out both for breaking the law.


..............lololol!

Of course the biggest hypocrisy of all is Sup.

[TheSphinx 2.0]

The more and more I read some of you people the more I realize you are just mindless partisans hacks that are the reason why things are so bad now. Somebody posts something that is disgusting and the first thing people do is run to politics. For people who claim to be so old and mature some of you sure act like little girls. Regardless of what side you are on what was on those tapes was disgusting. It was shameful and scary that somebody could walk into anywhere and say they were trying to bring 13 year old girls in to make sex slaves and the whole place didn't go up in arms trying to throw them out. That is a sign of a poor culture. For anybody who has worked in a firm with a good culture when you see people who are not only willing to do something illegal but in some cases do it with other co-workers sitting right there then there is someting wrong with how they are being supervised. I have worked in places with good cultures and places with bad cultures and I can see that this isn't the case of a few rogue employees. This seems like they need to reinforce to all the employees what they are there for. It is good to see them get fired but more has to be done to make sure these types of people don't get in again.

I don't know much about ACORN but I do believe they are sketchy. However if they do such a poor job in hiring people then there needs to be some sort of intervention.

If you only see the politics in this and not how disgusting it is what those woman were suggesting then you are an assclown.

-TS

[resnor]

Their office in Brooklyn was exposed...so saying that New York wasn't successful is pretty disingenuous.

[bk1998]

The more and more I read some of you people the more I realize you are just mindless partisans hacks that are the reason why things are so bad now. Somebody posts something that is disgusting and the first thing people do is run to politics. For people who claim to be so old and mature some of you sure act like little girls. Regardless of what side you are on what was on those tapes was disgusting. It was shameful and scary that somebody could walk into anywhere and say they were trying to bring 13 year old girls in to make sex slaves and the whole place didn't go up in arms trying to throw them out. That is a sign of a poor culture. For anybody who has worked in a firm with a good culture when you see people who are not only willing to do something illegal but in some cases do it with other co-workers sitting right there then there is someting wrong with how they are being supervised. I have worked in places with good cultures and places with bad cultures and I can see that this isn't the case of a few rogue employees. This seems like they need to reinforce to all the employees what they are there for. It is good to see them get fired but more has to be done to make sure these types of people don't get in again.

I don't know much about ACORN but I do believe they are sketchy. However if they do such a poor job in hiring people then there needs to be some sort of intervention.

If you only see the politics in this and not how disgusting it is what those woman were suggesting then you are an assclown.

-TS

You can't bring a voice of reason to this forum. The ringleader of the whole "Town Hall" movement has tricked himself into thinking he's not influenced by partisan politics...

[sideoutshu]

You can't bring a voice of reason to this forum. The ringleader of the whole "Town Hall" movement has tricked himself into thinking he's not influenced by partisan politics...

Cmon man. He's right.

These souless criminals don't even bat an eye when told they they will be supporting the sex slave industry. They even go as far as to offer advice on how to avoid detection.

Rather then outrage, the response of the liberals on this board is to rationalize the behavior and say that those who exposed them should go to jail. wow.:rolleyes:

[Nevada_Ballin]

You can't bring a voice of reason to this forum. The ringleader of the whole "Town Hall" movement has tricked himself into thinking he's not influenced by partisan politics...

Who's the ringleader of the "Town Hall Movement"?


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[RicoVacilon]

Who cares?

Considering they get federal tax dollars, I do. When I read ACORN's mission statement I was behind them 100%. But it now appears there is rampant corruption in the organization. That really sucks. I'm for pulling all government funding until they clean up their act. Assuming that these videos I'm seeing aren't merely being edited to portray something that didn't actually happen (a la Deadliest Catch).

[Swift456]

Just saw a couple more of these dropped , San Diego was one and The Girl was saying they were willing to help them in all the spots they went to

[levdgg]

Who's the ringleader of the "Town Hall Movement"?


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He's definitely talking about you.

Do it.

Ban.

Do it.

[sanantonio]

Do you know whats truly maddening about the whole ACORN thing? That is the fact that they actually do some good and yet a few bad apples here and there totally discounts that, why? I didn't see this kind of outrage against the Catholic Church, why? I don't know what ACORN's over all budget is but they receive approx $5M tax dollars a year. This is a mininscule amount compared to other groups. Why is there no outrage over Blackwater? The Defense Industry a known abuser, why no outrage? Where is the outrage for the fat cats that got the bailouts and gave out the bonuses? Wall Street could certainly use some of this outrage but there is none, why?

I think there is a more nefarious plot concerning ACORN that was started and perpetrated by certain media. That is to divide the people and keep thier eyes and minds off of the above and so far it's working.

[SUPDOG]

Do you know whats truly maddening about the whole ACORN thing? That is the fact that they actually do some good and yet a few bad apples here and there totally discounts that, why? I didn't see this kind of outrage against the Catholic Church, why? I don't know what ACORN's over all budget is but they receive approx $5M tax dollars a year. This is a mininscule amount compared to other groups. Why is there no outrage over Blackwater? The Defense Industry a known abuser, why no outrage? Where is the outrage for the fat cats that got the bailouts and gave out the bonuses? Wall Street could certainly use some of this outrage but there is none, why?

I think there is a more nefarious plot concerning ACORN that was started and perpetrated by certain media. That is to divide the people and keep thier eyes and minds off of the above and so far it's working.

lol..........................

[sanantonio]

lol..........................


I didn't expect anymore then that from you :p.

[dsteve]

Considering they get federal tax dollars, I do. When I read ACORN's mission statement I was behind them 100%. But it now appears there is rampant corruption in the organization. That really sucks. I'm for pulling all government funding until they clean up their act. Assuming that these videos I'm seeing aren't merely being edited to portray something that didn't actually happen (a la Deadliest Catch).



atleast you get it. congrats for not being brain dead....but I dont think my tax dollars need to go to an organization that is basically always pulling for dems.

[Nevada_Ballin]

He's definitely talking about you.

Do it.

Ban.

Do it.

lol i'm not gonna ban him, no reason to. But i think it's funny he labeled me that when there are so many others who post way more that I do in the Town Hall forum. Wanna find the real ringleader? Go count who has started the most threads in the Town Hall and there will be the real answer :)


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