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jetsfan557
10-23-2009, 06:48 PM
Hey everyone just seeing if there is anyone else out there who runs the 4-4 and if they want to lab or share d's ...

My base D is cover-1 and I have some strong A gap and B gap nanos out of it as well as a F@G D variation

I also have a cover 4 quarter and Dime flat F@G D setup and other various defensive setups with this playbook

RavenBlitz
10-23-2009, 09:23 PM
Hey everyone just seeing if there is anyone else out there who runs the 4-4 and if they want to lab or share d's ...

My base D is cover-1 and I have some strong A gap and B gap nanos out of it as well as a F@G D variation

I also have a cover 4 quarter and Dime flat F@G D setup and other various defensive setups with this playbook

I've looked at it and wasn't all that impressed. I'm sure you could make it work - and have a nery nice unique gameplan with it - but I am just so familiarized with the 46 pb that I am not going to switch to something another book at this point.

I have long used only one team and one playbook....and I know them both very well.

GAV
10-23-2009, 11:21 PM
The 44 is nasty. The community just hasn't caught on yet.

Drxknockbootzx
10-24-2009, 12:10 AM
The 44 is nasty. The community just hasn't caught on yet.

yes it is one of the tuffest D's I have faced. I know some one that is from this site that destroyed me using the 44. I think I threw 5 picks and got sacked all day. You know who you are....

ojegr81
10-24-2009, 05:55 AM
I use TheTitans playbook and I do like The 4-4 defence, cn you give me sum tips and or strategies on implementing that defence aganist the pass in particular?

MDvegas
10-24-2009, 10:58 AM
I was actually going to make a thread about the 4-4, i was trying to lab it, but found i was only really effective at stopping the run. I guess more practice is needed. I'm down to lab with anyone on 360

Michura
10-24-2009, 11:28 AM
Due to the way I set up my depth chart, I can pretty much run this defense all game. Once they patch the flats to work better, I probably be able to run this all game.

My depth chart when running the 4-4:

CB FS CB
SS MLB MLB OLB
DE DE DT OLB

jamest0o0
10-24-2009, 12:49 PM
Due to the way I set up my depth chart, I can pretty much run this defense all game. Once they patch the flats to work better, I probably be able to run this all game.

My depth chart when running the 4-4:

CB FS CB
SS MLB MLB OLB
DE DE DT OLB

How do you get pressure with this, I've been trying to and I can't seem to get any pressure without blitzing like 2 LB's and going into man coverage and that always ends up killing me when they pass. I use the niners as well.

Drxknockbootzx
10-24-2009, 12:59 PM
Due to the way I set up my depth chart, I can pretty much run this defense all game. Once they patch the flats to work better, I probably be able to run this all game.

My depth chart when running the 4-4:

CB FS CB
SS MLB MLB OLB
DE DE DT OLB

Is that kinda how the odd split is set up???

Thom30w
10-24-2009, 09:59 PM
was thinking about trying this pb. Any thoughts?

sportfan88
10-25-2009, 01:34 AM
I like this formation a lot, just can't really get away from the NYJ PB.

Thom30w
10-25-2009, 11:04 AM
I may have to give the jets PB a try. People seem to really like it.

nothasoul
10-25-2009, 11:09 AM
I have been saying this from the begining. This is the best defense in the game. Make sure you use zone defenders to make it run correctly.

nothasoul
10-25-2009, 11:13 AM
Due to the way I set up my depth chart, I can pretty much run this defense all game. Once they patch the flats to work better, I probably be able to run this all game.

My depth chart when running the 4-4:

CB FS CB
SS MLB MLB OLB
DE DE DT OLB



You can do it now, you just have to pay attention to the zone rating of the player and high light the player that is going to the flats. Just as long as there is no combination to defend

Thom30w
10-25-2009, 12:32 PM
I am going to try this out. I play with the Colts and this sounds like it would be a good fit.

Michura
10-25-2009, 12:39 PM
You can do it now, you just have to pay attention to the zone rating of the player and high light the player that is going to the flats. Just as long as there is no combination to defend

Yeah, it's easy to defend the flats when there is nobody else in the area. But that doesn't come up that often.

The flats zones are broken, plain and simple. They don't work as intended and we have to jump through hoops to get around it. When that patch comes, alot of people will quickly find out that they are not as good as they thought they were.

jamest0o0
10-25-2009, 01:59 PM
How do you guys get pressure with the 4-4?

bamaram21jw
10-25-2009, 03:28 PM
I'm an experienced.level 13 baller that wants to lab the 44 on the 360? Thanks

nothasoul
10-25-2009, 04:39 PM
How do you guys get pressure with the 4-4?

Wow:confused: i dumb founded. Have you labed the defense? It's one of the easiest sets to get pressure with and setup.

nothasoul
10-25-2009, 04:40 PM
Yeah, it's easy to defend the flats when there is nobody else in the area. But that doesn't come up that often.

The flats zones are broken, plain and simple. They don't work as intended and we have to jump through hoops to get around it. When that patch comes, alot of people will quickly find out that they are not as good as they thought they were.

Yeah i understand that. I can't wait for the patch also.

Michura
10-25-2009, 04:43 PM
Wow:confused: i dumb founded. Have you labed the defense? It's one of the easiest sets to get pressure with and setup.

I didn't want to say anything but I have to agree. I find it hard to believe that you can't get pressure from his formation with the Niners. If you have slow LB's, then I can see that but it is so easy to get good outside pressure with this formation, especially with the Niners.

nothasoul
10-25-2009, 05:09 PM
I didn't want to say anything but I have to agree. I find it hard to believe that you can't get pressure from his formation with the Niners. If you have slow LB's, then I can see that but it is so easy to get good outside pressure with this formation, especially with the Niners.

I sometimes put Manny Lawson at mlb with Willis for agap heat and no qb in the game can run from me. You can barley even slide protect with it cause if the inside don't get you the outside will.

jamest0o0
10-25-2009, 05:52 PM
My fault, I actually did lab it for awhile and got great outside pressure by reblitzing the DE's and then having speedy LB's come off the end, but I'm having trouble getting heat down the middle through blitzes? I must be doing something wrong???

RavenBlitz
10-25-2009, 06:04 PM
I may have to give the jets PB a try. People seem to really like it.

It's a 3-4 base playbook that also has some 46 normal and the 115.

It's versatility makes it popular.

RavenBlitz
10-25-2009, 06:08 PM
My fault, I actually did lab it for awhile and got great outside pressure by reblitzing the DE's and then having speedy LB's come off the end, but I'm having trouble getting heat down the middle through blitzes? I must be doing something wrong???

Use the same concept but reblitz the DT's to generate A/B gap pressure with your ILB's.

I haven't used the 4-4 but it is designed for heat and should be very easy to generate like the 46.

Thom30w
10-25-2009, 06:12 PM
It's a 3-4 base playbook that also has some 46 normal and the 115.

It's versatility makes it popular.

Thanks. Id like to have some 46 sets to use and I love the 115. I am just trying to figure out what PB works best for me with the Colts.

RavenBlitz
10-25-2009, 06:15 PM
Thanks. Id like to have some 46 sets to use and I love the 115. I am just trying to figure out what PB works best for me with the Colts.

The NYJ playbook would not be good for the colts. They are not a 3-4 team. I also wouldn't use the 115 either because you want to have Freeny/Mathis in there.

The Colts really aren't a blitzing team. You don't need to bring a lot of heat when you have such great DE pass rushers and a high powered offense.

Personally, I would run the 46 playbook but I think the Colts are best suited for the 4-3.

So if I were you, I would start labbing with the 4-3 playbook.

nothasoul
10-25-2009, 06:41 PM
The NYJ playbook would not be good for the colts. They are not a 3-4 team. I also wouldn't use the 115 either because you want to have Freeny/Mathis in there.

The Colts really aren't a blitzing team. You don't need to bring a lot of heat when you have such great DE pass rushers and a high powered offense.

Personally, I would run the 46 playbook but I think the Colts are best suited for the 4-3.

So if I were you, I would start labbing with the 4-3 playbook.

I disagree with some points you made. You can sub in the dline in the 155. Anyteam is made for blitzing and the 44 is perfect for them. I have used them and i still am. You are correct that they are better suited for a 4 down defense and not a 3. It's not wise to use man defense with them because they are more suited for zone although they can be with the right type of heat;) and the 44 gives you that. You just have to make the proper adjustments in the lineup and on the field with moving players around. Tenn pb or the 46 pb is the best suited for them.

RavenBlitz
10-25-2009, 06:53 PM
I disagree with some points you made. You can sub in the dline in the 155. Anyteam is made for blitzing and the 44 is perfect for them. I have used them and i still am. You are correct that they are better suited for a 4 down defense and not a 3. It's not wise to use man defense with them because they are more suited for zone although they can be with the right type of heat;) and the 44 gives you that. You just have to make the proper adjustments in the lineup and on the field with moving players around. Tenn pb or the 46 pb is the best suited for them.

Point taken. You can blitz with ANY team but I was talking about only certain teams being suited for HEAVEY blitzing with one-on-one coverage in the secondary. I don't think the Colts corners/linebackers are good enough for it and I don't think it's necessary when you have Mathis Freeney on the edges. You definately should stick with a 4 man line.

I also think the 4-3 playbook gets way overlooked in Madden. That book is outstanding. If I wasn't a 46 D guru, I would use the 4-3 book...with the right team.

Fortunately when you have Suggs, you can roll 3-4 or 4-3. I like having him as a DE and moving Ngata to DT....both 99ovr's. :D

Either way - I would NOT use the Jets PB with the Colts. Tenn? Ok.

Thom30w
10-25-2009, 07:30 PM
The NYJ playbook would not be good for the colts. They are not a 3-4 team. I also wouldn't use the 115 either because you want to have Freeny/Mathis in there.

The Colts really aren't a blitzing team. You don't need to bring a lot of heat when you have such great DE pass rushers and a high powered offense.

Personally, I would run the 46 playbook but I think the Colts are best suited for the 4-3.

So if I were you, I would start labbing with the 4-3 playbook.

So use the 4-3 or the Colts PB? Your points make a lot of sense.

nothasoul
10-25-2009, 07:47 PM
Point taken. You can blitz with ANY team but I was talking about only certain teams being suited for HEAVEY blitzing with one-on-one coverage in the secondary. I don't think the Colts corners/linebackers are good enough for it and I don't think it's necessary when you have Mathis Freeney on the edges. You definately should stick with a 4 man line.

I also think the 4-3 playbook gets way overlooked in Madden. That book is outstanding. If I wasn't a 46 D guru, I would use the 4-3 book...with the right team.

Fortunately when you have Suggs, you can roll 3-4 or 4-3. I like having him as a DE and moving Ngata to DT....both 99ovr's. :D

Either way - I would NOT use the Jets PB with the Colts. Tenn? Ok.

There are very few teams that you can run man blitzes with and tuff to pull with people who can read defenses. As i stated in my post which agreed with you the colts are not one of them.

nothasoul
10-25-2009, 07:53 PM
So use the 4-3 or the Colts PB? Your points make a lot of sense.

What ever you feel like. Lab it out. People can give you plays but learning to play defense is a feel for the game and team. Both requier experiance. Go into practice mode take each play and make adjustments with it. Then go into unrank game and try it out. Just make sure you are playing allmadden to avoid as much bullship as possible. You can't play defense on pro and thats word

Thom30w
10-25-2009, 08:00 PM
Thanks. I have played some games online and will lab it out.

RavenBlitz
10-25-2009, 09:02 PM
So use the 4-3 or the Colts PB? Your points make a lot of sense.

I would use the 4-3. It's a good book for the Colts and has a lot of nice zone blitzes.

The 46 has more cover 1/cover 0 blitzes and the Colts aren't really suited for that.

Give the 4-3 some honest time. I think you'll be surprised.

GAV
10-25-2009, 10:26 PM
You can get pressure with the 44 by simply spreading the DL and LBs and reblitzing the front. It's very easy to create specific dynamics from the 44. I know a good deal about it and I only used it for one game. Using your noodle should be sufficient.

jetsfan557
10-26-2009, 03:28 AM
yah I run it with the bears atm and fast LBS because I have central based blitzes , but I found it's very weak at defending the outside run and you need to have good stick for the RB vs safety 1v1

If you wanna lab get @ me at C118 Ballers on 360, just send me a friend request...

sorry bout the lack of response by me since I created the thread, I thought that maddentips would email me if someone responded =/ im new

nothasoul
10-26-2009, 04:25 AM
yah I run it with the bears atm and fast LBS because I have central based blitzes , but I found it's very weak at defending the outside run and you need to have good stick for the RB vs safety 1v1

If you wanna lab get @ me at C118 Ballers on 360, just send me a friend request...

sorry bout the lack of response by me since I created the thread, I thought that maddentips would email me if someone responded =/ im new

What plays are you running:confused: the 44 shut the outside run like crazy and i don't even really need a de contain. You should have no problem with the bears especialy with the solid de the bears have. Stopping the run is the heart and strength of the 44. When i see people run it and know how to use it i don't even bother to run unless i am using the top 5 running teams.

jetsfan557
10-26-2009, 10:30 AM
I run the cover-1 nano w/both MBL over center and I find that often when they run counters and such I can't get to the HB with the safety because I hit a block..

Thats my base D , sometimes i switch into a F@G D variation of this if they start quick passing

nothasoul
10-26-2009, 03:53 PM
I run the cover-1 nano w/both MBL over center and I find that often when they run counters and such I can't get to the HB with the safety because I hit a block..

Thats my base D , sometimes i switch into a F@G D variation of this if they start quick passing

I never use man to stop outside runs i use zone 95% of the time when i run the 44 defense.

yawdman41
10-26-2009, 04:14 PM
What other types of things in the 4-4 are people finding that works.

Michura
10-26-2009, 04:29 PM
You can get pressure with the 44 by simply spreading the DL and LBs and reblitzing the front. It's very easy to create specific dynamics from the 44. I know a good deal about it and I only used it for one game. Using your noodle should be sufficient.

You don't even need to do that much.

nothasoul
10-26-2009, 04:39 PM
You don't even need to do that much.

LOL yeah i was going to say that. I know a lot of people like the nickle odd and think it's just as good as the 44 but it's not at all. I find that the 44 is better at stopping passes then the nickel odd. I love the cover 4 play with the 2 purples for sideline passers

RavenBlitz
10-26-2009, 06:33 PM
Any 4-4 users on PS3?

I'd like to play an avid 4-4 user.

nothasoul
10-26-2009, 11:22 PM
Any 4-4 users on PS3?

I'd like to play an avid 4-4 user.

When the flats are fixed, this defense will be stout.

Michura
10-26-2009, 11:35 PM
When the flats are fixed, this defense will be stout.

When the flats are fixed, alot of defenses will be stout.

The one thing I don't like about this formation is that it doesn't have a Cover 2 where the corners plays the flats and thus bump the outside WR's.

nothasoul
10-26-2009, 11:43 PM
When the flats are fixed, alot of defenses will be stout.

The one thing I don't like about this formation is that it doesn't have a Cover 2 where the corners plays the flats and thus bump the outside WR's.

Yeah thats it's only weakness. You have to create it tho and that takes time.

ELDUNA
10-27-2009, 12:05 AM
Hey guys! I use the falcons and run the 46 pb. I'm decent playing defense but sometimes I struggle due to my secondary (not very good) Do you think I should try Tenn pb? Think 4-4 will help? I like to blitz a lot.

My 46 looks like this:

--------------moore
houston---------------coleman--------williams
-------wire-----lofton-----peterson
---abraham---perry---babinoux---sidbury

Any recomendations?

Thanks

nothasoul
10-27-2009, 12:48 AM
Hey guys! I use the falcons and run the 46 pb. I'm decent playing defense but sometimes I struggle due to my secondary (not very good) Do you think I should try Tenn pb? Think 4-4 will help? I like to blitz a lot.

My 46 looks like this:

--------------moore
houston---------------coleman--------williams
-------wire-----lofton-----peterson
---abraham---perry---babinoux---sidbury

Any recomendations?

Thanks

Switching may not be the problem with you. It could just be play calling, stick or just not ajusting right. The 46 playbook has great heat and can stuff the run very well with some simple adjustments. Just have to work on situations and odd or even alighnments and how to counter them.

jetsfan557
10-27-2009, 01:59 PM
Hey notha would you mind labbing the 4-4 with me and giving me some tips on how to incorporate the zone... i'll show you what i already know but it seems like you could be a great help for me

jamest0o0
10-28-2009, 12:10 AM
Wow I'm starting to find out how great this 4-4 is... I've been keeping every HB including AP to about a 1.5 avg yards per carry simply by spreading the line.

azn26
10-28-2009, 01:40 AM
When the flats are fixed, alot of defenses will be stout.

The one thing I don't like about this formation is that it doesn't have a Cover 2 where the corners plays the flats and thus bump the outside WR's.

I agree Michura. If the heat doesn't make to the QB in time, they can hit some bullet passes to the sidelines/flats or even some slants. I try to mix up where the heat comes from, but a smart/patient passer can still move the chains.


What other types of things in the 4-4 are people finding that works.

The only real success I've had has been blitzing an outside linebacker on the side of the offense that doesn't have a RB/FB blocking and/or the side where a TE is going on a pass route. I've been moderately successful with blitzing, but then again this 'heat scheme' get's hella old fast (QB can start sending routes to the area where heat is coming from). I haven't messed around with heat from the A or B gaps, but maybe when I can start bringing heat up the middle then I can keep showing 4-4 and keep my opponent honest.

Against the run, the 4-4 has been reliable for me. I'm trying some alignment in my Depth Chart to tweak this formation (Like Michura showed in his earlier post).

I'm looking forward to more community support with this formation/playbook.

nothasoul
10-28-2009, 01:51 AM
Hey notha would you mind labbing the 4-4 with me and giving me some tips on how to incorporate the zone... i'll show you what i already know but it seems like you could be a great help for me

Just hit me up anytime. Gamertag: ZidaneG

nothasoul
10-28-2009, 01:53 AM
I agree Michura. If the heat doesn't make to the QB in time, they can hit some bullet passes to the sidelines/flats or even some slants. I try to mix up where the heat comes from, but a smart/patient passer can still move the chains.



The only real success I've had has been blitzing an outside linebacker on the side of the offense that doesn't have a RB/FB blocking and/or the side where a TE is going on a pass route. I've been moderately successful with blitzing, but then again this 'heat scheme' get's hella old fast (QB can start sending routes to the area where heat is coming from). I haven't messed around with heat from the A or B gaps, but maybe when I can start bringing heat up the middle then I can keep showing 4-4 and keep my opponent honest.

Against the run, the 4-4 has been reliable for me. I'm trying some alignment in my Depth Chart to tweak this formation (Like Michura showed in his earlier post).

I'm looking forward to more community support with this formation/playbook.


That only comes from not mixing your heat. You have to be creative.

AnthonyJFranks
10-29-2009, 01:25 PM
Im trying to incorporate this defense with the Texans so far as others said I have to tweak my lineup due to speed issues.. Any roster suggestions would help

the original
11-02-2009, 12:30 PM
Ravens i use tenn's playbook 44 an i'll lab with u on ps3. LDUBB123 hit me up.

AnthonyJFranks
11-03-2009, 12:16 PM
Ravens i use tenn's playbook 44 an i'll lab with u on ps3. LDUBB123 hit me up.

PSN- AnthonyFranks


Shoot me an invite.. Warmachine was helping last night but my ol lady wanted to watch a movie.. :mad:

jrs2012
11-04-2009, 01:00 PM
id love to lab with some of you guys. lv29 on ps3. EaglePride615 hit me up some time. oh and please be at or above lv20

nothasoul
11-04-2009, 01:37 PM
id love to lab with some of you guys. lv29 on ps3. EaglePride615 hit me up some time. oh and please be at or above lv20

Levels don't mean nothing.

Highlander
11-05-2009, 12:47 AM
Levels don't mean nothing.

Not to trying and start anything but I been saying that, I havent played one ranked game but I aint scurred

yawdman41
11-05-2009, 03:34 PM
How do you increase your levels anyway. This always confused me

Drxknockbootzx
11-05-2009, 05:05 PM
How do you increase your levels anyway. This always confused me

by winning...

AnthonyJFranks
11-07-2009, 02:11 PM
Levels don't mean nothing.

Notasoul Im using the Texans to run this 44 defense . What do you recommend for the DT. One that have speed or one that can clog the whole. Correct me if Im wrong but in the 44 you should have fast DE and LB to cover the outside blitz. But what about the inside.

nothasoul
11-07-2009, 02:43 PM
Notasoul Im using the Texans to run this 44 defense . What do you recommend for the DT. One that have speed or one that can clog the whole. Correct me if Im wrong but in the 44 you should have fast DE and LB to cover the outside blitz. But what about the inside.

First off, god bless you if your going to use the texans. They are a piss poor tackling team point blank. I always go with strength at DT. Speed every where man, but not just that they have to cover. Speed with low zone awr will do you no good. High awr players will always make plays for you but since the texans have low awr guys you have to compensate and look at there man and zone awr attribute stats. A lot of people talk about stick skills but these stats also include on how effective you click on and the position the defender gets to stop the play. Feel me? The Texans are low in all those stats so you have to stay on top of your opponent with ball control and a bend doint break defensive style. Ball contol is also playing defense.

AnthonyJFranks
11-07-2009, 03:39 PM
First off, god bless you if your going to use the texans. They are a piss poor tackling team point blank. I always go with strength at DT. Speed every where man, but not just that they have to cover. Speed with low zone awr will do you no good. High awr players will always make plays for you but since the texans have low awr guys you have to compensate and look at there man and zone awr attribute stats. A lot of people talk about stick skills but these stats also include on how effective you click on and the position the defender gets to stop the play. Feel me? The Texans are low in all those stats so you have to stay on top of your opponent with ball control and a bend doint break defensive style. Ball contol is also playing defense.

Ive been able to help my piss poor secondary by moving Cushing into MLB and Ryans at ROLB. Ive been doing okay with them getting decent heat. I have problems cover inside slants from the slots and TE position any suggestions.. The only thing that I do is use the players on the inside of the CB's back them up and put them in QB spy sometimes I get a pick sometimes I get burnt

nothasoul
11-08-2009, 12:31 PM
Ive been able to help my piss poor secondary by moving Cushing into MLB and Ryans at ROLB. Ive been doing okay with them getting decent heat. I have problems cover inside slants from the slots and TE position any suggestions.. The only thing that I do is use the players on the inside of the CB's back them up and put them in QB spy sometimes I get a pick sometimes I get burnt

Put a de in a spy or a yellow.

jetsfan557
11-08-2009, 02:13 PM
Wow my post owns !

PRfootball
11-08-2009, 02:15 PM
I think I will switch from the Multiple D to the Titans D just to try this formation.

AnthonyJFranks
11-10-2009, 02:56 PM
Put a de in a spy or a yellow.

Good looking out thats what I do something and I'll back them up just incase as well..

Im still looking for people on the PS3 to lab with on this defense

Michura
11-10-2009, 05:05 PM
I am thinking of switching out of this defense but I am waiting on the patch. I find that it gets raped by shotgun playaction passes (please bring back pass commit, EA) because my linebackers bite on the PA despite it being 3rd and f***ing long. The flats are also much harder to defend with this formation.

I wish the 34 defense had a way to get outside pressure like the 44. I just find that the with the 34, you have to give yup so much more coverage to get decent outside pressure.

nothasoul
11-10-2009, 05:36 PM
I am thinking of switching out of this defense but I am waiting on the patch. I find that it gets raped by shotgun playaction passes (please bring back pass commit, EA) because my linebackers bite on the PA despite it being 3rd and f***ing long. The flats are also much harder to defend with this formation.

I wish the 34 defense had a way to get outside pressure like the 44. I just find that the with the 34, you have to give yup so much more coverage to get decent outside pressure.

Better defesive teams won't bite so much but yeah the playaction period is bad. When i use the 44 and someone is using shotgun alot what i do is usually highlight there favorite wr and play there second option. Most of the time it's the 2 inside wrs. I will highlight one and manual the second.

Michura
11-10-2009, 07:17 PM
Better defesive teams won't bite so much but yeah the playaction period is bad. When i use the 44 and someone is using shotgun alot what i do is usually highlight there favorite wr and play there second option. Most of the time it's the 2 inside wrs. I will highlight one and manual the second.

But when they are out of position due to biting on the PA, highlighting does nothing.

nothasoul
11-10-2009, 07:33 PM
But when they are out of position due to biting on the PA, highlighting does nothing.

Again, with good defesive teams it's not so bad but you are using the niners :rolleyes:. Have you tried putting a de in a contain while bltzing the agap?

Michura
11-10-2009, 08:02 PM
Again, with good defesive teams it's not so bad but you are using the niners :rolleyes:. Have you tried putting a de in a contain while bltzing the agap?

I do it whenever I have enough time. But some PA's can't be a-gapped. I don't even care about not getting the sack, it's that the zones follow the QB so the field is wide open on the other side.

nothasoul
11-11-2009, 12:36 PM
I do it whenever I have enough time. But some PA's can't be a-gapped. I don't even care about not getting the sack, it's that the zones follow the QB so the field is wide open on the other side.

I know i was playing this guy and all he would do is pa and roll. I said because atleast you can click on the contain at the last minute and manually rush. ea really needs to patch that shiiiz because the defender will just leave his zone and the wr to follow the qb In some leagues people had banned people from doing that. It's very glitchy

gigemaggs99
11-12-2009, 11:29 PM
So ya'll say you use the 4-4 to shut down the pass also?

I started trying the 4-4 tonight and I can shut the run down like a champ.
If the CPU comes out w/ 2WRs I can shut down the pass, usually with a sack.

I like to control the FS so the CPU controlled guys get the sack for me.

My question is, do ya'll come out in the 4-4 even if the offense comes out in 3 or more WRs?

I'm all about using the 4-4 for the entire game if that's possible. I would love to be able to shut the pass down like I can with the run. I feel like I can dominate the CPU when it tries to run on me. But then it drops back to pass and picks me apart like a pee-wee team's secondary :mad:

I too am using the Texans and I find my LBs can't, don't have a chance against 3 or 4 WRs, they are just not fast enough. Plus like you said we have a hard time tackling. I've pretty much given up on trying for a BIG HIT unless there are others near-by to assist if I wiff.

AnthonyJFranks
11-13-2009, 11:35 AM
So ya'll say you use the 4-4 to shut down the pass also?

I started trying the 4-4 tonight and I can shut the run down like a champ.
If the CPU comes out w/ 2WRs I can shut down the pass, usually with a sack.

I like to control the FS so the CPU controlled guys get the sack for me.

My question is, do ya'll come out in the 4-4 even if the offense comes out in 3 or more WRs?

I'm all about using the 4-4 for the entire game if that's possible. I would love to be able to shut the pass down like I can with the run. I feel like I can dominate the CPU when it tries to run on me. But then it drops back to pass and picks me apart like a pee-wee team's secondary :mad:

I too am using the Texans and I find my LBs can't, don't have a chance against 3 or 4 WRs, they are just not fast enough. Plus like you said we have a hard time tackling. I've pretty much given up on trying for a BIG HIT unless there are others near-by to assist if I wiff.

How do you have your roster setup because Im using the Texans as well.. Just to help you out. Here's mine

DE - Mario and Antonio
DT - Barwin and Okam
LOLB - Barber (SS)
MLB- Cushing
ROLB - Ryans
CB - Robinson, Reeves
FS - Busing
SS - Pollard.
With that lineup I believe its that faster and most proficient for the Texans. It covers speed in the D-Line and Lnebackers and should provide enough heat to give the CBs some help..

Scorpion1025
11-24-2009, 01:16 PM
I'm not good using the 46 but I want to try this defense. :(

Can I assume that in order to run the 4-4 effectively, you have to have the same type of gameplan and adjustments as you would running the 46?

ojegr81
12-10-2009, 12:58 AM
What defeensive play out of The Titans playbook will slow down if not stop N.E. 5WR Screen pass to Moss or any N.E. WR? Any help would be welcomed.