Obama to Meet with BP CEO!!!!!!!

[SUPDOG]

You can't say this guys not on the ball! :rolleyes:

He must have read Palin's Facebook page. Why does it seem that when it is time to put on the big boy pants that Obama needs others to tell him how to do it? Talk about a puppet! LOL!


http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100610/pl_afp/usoilenvironmentpollutionbpchairman

[TheSphinx 2.0]

I will say, (not to get on Obama) but I was suprised when he said he hadn't met with the CEO of BP after all that time...and the reason he gave (he already knows what those type of guys are going to say so why bother to meet with him) was really embarrassing in my opinion.

-TS

[Nevada_Ballin]

I don't think he should meet with him at all. This is why he has staffers. Nothing is going to change due to this meeting. The oil leak will not close faster, the booms will not suddenly soak up more oil and Kevin Costner will not automatically get 50,000 of his machines out there to protect the coastlines.

It's a photo op for both forced by the media.


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[TheSphinx 2.0]

I don't think he should meet with him at all. This is why he has staffers. Nothing is going to change due to this meeting. The oil leak will not close faster, the booms will not suddenly soak up more oil and Kevin Costner will not automatically get 50,000 of his machines out there to protect the coastlines.

It's a photo op for both forced by the media.


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I completely disagree. When you are dealing with one of the worst disasters in the history of the country you need to get your top guy (the President) to meet with their top guy (Chairman, CEO) and anybody else who knows what needs to be done. I agree that the President can't be on the shoreline scooping up oil but if he can take time to go and look at oil on the beach for photos he can take the time to talk to the head of the company that is trying to stop the disaster from becoming any worse. I wasn't looking for the President to meet with the CEO in the beginning when it looked like this was going to be a typical spill that would be stopped rather quickly but once it became the "worst spill in history" and it starting wiping out billions of dollars of worth then I think the big guns needed to get involved.

I have been in high level business meetings long enough to know that when the big boss steps in the room you know this is a serious issue and everybody better be on their toes. When you are dealing with some mid-level cabinent staffer (or some mid manager in a company) you can bully him around and not worry about it...but when you are looking in the face of the President of the United States you know you better be on your game. You don't screw up when you know you have to answer to the big boss...

Its the reason why when the President starting making comments BPs stock dropped like a rock and now the new British PM is making comments. For whatever people have to say about the President of the US, when he talks people listen and when he makes it known this is his top priority people move a little bit quicker, because nobody wants to be the one who has to go back to the President and say "oops, what we told you before was all made up"

-TS

I can just imagaine if a month after Katrina Bush said he had not met with the the guy in charge of the organization heading the relief efforts because he already knew what he would say. Sure that was a government agency but the point is when something like this hits the big guys need to get in a room and have a discussion...

[Nevada_Ballin]

I completely disagree. When you are dealing with one of the worst disasters in the history of the country you need to get your top guy (the President) to meet with their top guy (Chairman, CEO) and anybody else who knows what needs to be done. I agree that the President can't be on the shoreline scooping up oil but if he can take time to go and look at oil on the beach for photos he can take the time to talk to the head of the company that is trying to stop the disaster from becoming any worse. I wasn't looking for the President to meet with the CEO in the beginning when it looked like this was going to be a typical spill that would be stopped rather quickly but once it became the "worst spill in history" and it starting wiping out billions of dollars of worth then I think the big guns needed to get involved.

I have been in high level business meetings long enough to know that when the big boss steps in the room you know this is a serious issue and everybody better be on their toes. When you are dealing with some mid-level cabinent staffer (or some mid manager in a company) you can bully him around and not worry about it...but when you are looking in the face of the President of the United States you know you better be on your game. You don't screw up when you know you have to answer to the big boss...

Its the reason why when the President starting making comments BPs stock dropped like a rock and now the new British PM is making comments. For whatever people have to say about the President of the US, when he talks people listen and when he makes it known this is his top priority people move a little bit quicker, because nobody wants to be the one who has to go back to the President and say "oops, what we told you before was all made up"

-TS

I can just imagaine if a month after Katrina Bush said he had not met with the the guy in charge of the organization heading the relief efforts because he already knew what he would say. Sure that was a government agency but the point is when something like this hits the big guys need to get in a room and have a discussion...

It accomplishes nothing. I don't recall George H. Bush meeting with Exxon's CEO after the Valdez accident, which at the time was the largest environmental incident in this country. Getting together with BP's CEO could be perceived as Obama "buddying up" with big oil - especially when nothing changes after the meeting.

You can't compare Katrina to this oil spill, one was a natural disaster that came with 4 days worth of warnings, forced millions of people to evacuate and required immediate FEMA response to save human lives while the other is human error that came with no warning, does not have the "immediate" impact of a hurricane, could have been prevented and still needs to be stopped.

Obama meeting with BP accomplishes nothing for the sake of solving the problems. If Obama really wanted to have a meaningful meeting with someone, he'd get together with some engineers who can discuss the solutions first person.


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[R-ILLA]

You can't say this guys not on the ball! :rolleyes:

He must have read Palin's Facebook page. Why does it seem that when it is time to put on the big boy pants that Obama needs others to tell him how to do it? Talk about a puppet! LOL!


http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100610/pl_afp/usoilenvironmentpollutionbpchairman

Ha Ha. They're all puppets.....you're almost there.

[sanantonio]

WTF are they going to talk about that will resolve the problem? All it will accomplish is ........nothing.

[SUPDOG]

LOL! What a surprise Nevada Bobblin' agrees with Obama's position....AGAIN! :)


I had a hose bust on me twice on a piece of equipment. It was not assembled correctly. It created a HUGE mess. If I would have been in the wrong place ath the time, this "disaster" could have damaged my customer's property.

I was on the phone THE EXACT moment it happened talking to the owner of the company. Why wouldn't you? Wow. Should I have asked one of my employees to call him and compleain? Are you kidding me? What a joke.


Wow. How stupid can you get with these responses.


Anyway, Odumbot said initially he wouldn't meet with the BP CEO because the CEO was one of "those guys" (you know an evil capatalist) who would say anything etc.

So why is it that Obama has "summoned" one of "those guys" now? Any ideas?

[TheSphinx 2.0]

It accomplishes nothing. I don't recall George H. Bush meeting with Exxon's CEO after the Valdez accident, which at the time was the largest environmental incident in this country. Getting together with BP's CEO could be perceived as Obama "buddying up" with big oil - especially when nothing changes after the meeting.

You can't compare Katrina to this oil spill, one was a natural disaster that came with 4 days worth of warnings, forced millions of people to evacuate and required immediate FEMA response to save human lives while the other is human error that came with no warning, does not have the "immediate" impact of a hurricane, could have been prevented and still needs to be stopped.

Obama meeting with BP accomplishes nothing for the sake of solving the problems. If Obama really wanted to have a meaningful meeting with someone, he'd get together with some engineers who can discuss the solutions first person.


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I'm sorry but you obviously have never been in a meeting with the big boss to say that seeing the man face to face accomplishes nothing. Ask any lawyer how things move when a Partner walks into the room. (Hey Side, I don't know if you work in a Partnership but if you do what happens when a partner -- named or otherwise -- shows up to a meeting or asks you for your report or tells you he wants to see your findings tomorrow morning). Ask any financial analyst what happens when the CFO sits in on a meeting. Ask anybody what happens when the CEO comes to a meeting. When the big guys show up it means something....people work harder...they move faster...the adrenaline starts pumping...the brain starts firing. I've lived it too many times...I know it has an effect.

Sure the President isn't going to walk in and things will magically be solved, but if you don't think having to look the Man in the face and give him a report makes people work that much harder and stay up that much longer to figure out a solution then I flat out think you are wrong. I have been on both ends of it (being the man in a situation -- sort of -- and being the guy reporting to the man) and when you know the big guy has his eye on you it matters...ALOT. You don't go home as early as you might have. You make that extra call. You look at that extra piece of data. You dot every I and cross every T (even if you already did it) you go back and make sure you didn't miss something.

I can remember countless times watching people work at what I thought was an incredibly rapid pace double their speed and efforts when the big boss gets involved. Shoot I remember one time I was running a meeting when I was a banking analyst on Wall Street. I prepared for the meeting incredibly hard and went over everything and was about to call it a night when I got a call from my boss saying that the big man was coming to the meeting because there was some connnection to a big deal on the other side of the bank and they wanted somebody more senior than the two of us there to show how important this was to the firm. First of all my presentation was cut in half because my boss then wanted to get some shine (because the big man was going to be there...funny how that works). Needless to say I stayed up all night going over things and came into the meeting jacked up...and crushed it (even with my part being shared with my boss). Would I have been as on point if the big man wasn't there? I don't know but there was no way in hell I was going to find that out. Now if I was that freaked out about a small banking client, imagine what it must be like to have to sit across from the President of the United States and say "uh sorry but I don't know what to do". If that is the answer someone has to give to the POTUS (the most powerful man in the world) I am pretty damn sure he/she hadn't slept the last 5 nights because they were tyring everything under the sun to not have to have that moment.

Seriously, it means something...and it has an effect. I'm sure in running your company you have noticed that when you get on the phone with a supplier or with a customer it means a lot more than when your underling does...

-TS

[RicoVacilon]

Is he gonna kick his ***?

[sanantonio]

I'm sorry but you obviously have never been in a meeting with the big boss to say that seeing the man face to face accomplishes nothing. Ask any lawyer how things move when a Partner walks into the room. (Hey Side, I don't know if you work in a Partnership but if you do what happens when a partner -- named or otherwise -- shows up to a meeting or asks you for your report or tells you he wants to see your findings tomorrow morning). Ask any financial analyst what happens when the CFO sits in on a meeting. Ask anybody what happens when the CEO comes to a meeting. When the big guys show up it means something....people work harder...they move faster...the adrenaline starts pumping...the brain starts firing. I've lived it too many times...I know it has an effect.

Sure the President isn't going to walk in and things will magically be solved, but if you don't think having to look the Man in the face and give him a report makes people work that much harder and stay up that much longer to figure out a solution then I flat out think you are wrong. I have been on both ends of it (being the man in a situation -- sort of -- and being the guy reporting to the man) and when you know the big guy has his eye on you it matters...ALOT. You don't go home as early as you might have. You make that extra call. You look at that extra piece of data. You dot every I and cross every T (even if you already did it) you go back and make sure you didn't miss something.

I can remember countless times watching people work at what I thought was an incredibly rapid pace double their speed and efforts when the big boss gets involved. Shoot I remember one time I was running a meeting when I was a banking analyst on Wall Street. I prepared for the meeting incredibly hard and went over everything and was about to call it a night when I got a call from my boss saying that the big man was coming to the meeting because there was some connnection to a big deal on the other side of the bank and they wanted somebody more senior than the two of us there to show how important this was to the firm. First of all my presentation was cut in half because my boss then wanted to get some shine (because the big man was going to be there...funny how that works). Needless to say I stayed up all night going over things and came into the meeting jacked up...and crushed it (even with my part being shared with my boss). Would I have been as on point if the big man wasn't there? I don't know but there was no way in hell I was going to find that out. Now if I was that freaked out about a small banking client, imagine what it must be like to have to sit across from the President of the United States and say "uh sorry but I don't know what to do". If that is the answer someone has to give to the POTUS (the most powerful man in the world) I am pretty damn sure he/she hadn't slept the last 5 nights because they were tyring everything under the sun to not have to have that moment.

Seriously, it means something...and it has an effect. I'm sure in running your company you have noticed that when you get on the phone with a supplier or with a customer it means a lot more than when your underling does...

-TS

In the end how much faster will this meeting help to sop up the mess? It's PR bullshyt plain and simple.

[TheSphinx 2.0]

In the end how much faster will this meeting help to sop up the mess? It's PR bullshyt plain and simple.

The same thing...it is clear you have never had to walk into a meeting with the big boss when the spotlight is on you. If you have never experienced that pressue then you will believe that those meetings have no impact on the outcome. I have been there and I know they do. I have seen it too many times in too many companies wth too many top executives...when the big boss is looking at you, you move faster, think harder and work longer than you otherwise would...

I am damn sure that if the CEO of BP wasn't down there everyday hounding them about that spill there wouldn't be a cap on it today...and I am willing to bet that if Obama would have been on them sooner that plug would have been on there sooner. Imagine what it would have been like for the BP CEO if Obama was sitting across from him and said "if you dont' get this fixed yesterday I will lobby every member in congress to retroactively change the liability limit laws and make sure we liquidate every asset BP has...even that crap well in Nigeria that you can't get oil to flow from".

But on the other hand...maybe you are right and it would have changed nothing. Maybe the most powerful man in the world comes to the office and people say "sorry man, can't move any faster". Either way it makes no sense not to try. If the meeting works it gets plugged faster...if it doesn't you are right where you would have been. All upside no downside...

-TS

Also to say that meeting with probably the most knowledgable person in the world about that particular spill (the CEO of BP and the appropriate people around him) is only a PR move shows a serious lack of understanding about a lot of things. Walking down the shoreline picking up sand is a PR move. Holding a private meeting with the top brass at BP is a smart move. Also lets not forget that when the question was asked to him there was nothing to say he hadn't at least talked to the CEO of BP in private. This whole "it wouold only be a PR move" garbage that people are spewing now is a way to deflect the fact that he could have met with him in private weeks ago but chose not to. To be honest that is why I was originally suprised...I thought he had already met with him privately at that point. I can understand why he didn't feel the need to meet with him at first, but when it got big and he was out there making comments that he was in charge I was sure he had been in contact with BP on the L to make sure things were under control and and he was about to be made to look good...guess I was wrong...

[sanantonio]

The same thing...it is clear you have never had to walk into a meeting with the big boss when the spotlight is on you. If you have never experienced that pressue then you will believe that those meetings have no impact on the outcome. I have been there and I know they do. I have seen it too many times in too many companies wth too many top executives...when the big boss is looking at you, you move faster, think harder and work longer than you otherwise would...

I am damn sure that if the CEO of BP wasn't down there everyday hounding them about that spill there wouldn't be a cap on it today...and I am willing to bet that if Obama would have been on them sooner that plug would have been on there sooner. Imagine what it would have been like for the BP CEO if Obama was sitting across from him and said "if you dont' get this fixed yesterday I will lobby every member in congress to retroactively change the liability limit laws and make sure we liquidate every asset BP has...even that crap well in Nigeria that you can't get oil to flow from".

But on the other hand...maybe you are right and it would have changed nothing. Maybe the most powerful man in the world comes to the office and people say "sorry man, can't move any faster". Either way it makes no sense not to try. If the meeting works it gets plugged faster...if it doesn't you are right where you would have been. All upside no downside...

-TS

Also to say that meeting with probably the most knowledgable person in the world about that particular spill (the CEO of BP and the appropriate people around him) is only a PR move shows a serious lack of understanding about a lot of things. Walking down the shoreline picking up sand is a PR move. Holding a private meeting with the top brass at BP is a smart move. Also lets not forget that when the question was asked to him there was nothing to say he hadn't at least talked to the CEO of BP in private. This whole "it wouold only be a PR move" garbage that people are spewing now is a way to deflect the fact that he could have met with him in private weeks ago but chose not to. To be honest that is why I was originally suprised...I thought he had already met with him privately at that point. I can understand why he didn't feel the need to meet with him at first, but when it got big and he was out there making comments that he was in charge I was sure he had been in contact with BP on the L to make sure things were under control and and he was about to be made to look good...guess I was wrong...

My lack of understanding?? Seriously??? Naive much? Here is what I've known which is why this meeting is a total circle jerk!!!


The incestuous ties between the MMS and the oil industry have not been severed with the election of Obama. Obama was in fact the top recipient of BP employee donations in the 2008 election cycle, and the company has mobilized tens of millions in a massive lobbying campaign that has brought on board such powerful Washington insiders as Democratic Party kingmaker John Podesta, former Democratic House majority leader Thomas Daschle and former Republican Senator Alan Simpson a key member of Obamas bipartisan budget committee. Current CIA director Leon Panetta has also served on BPs external advisory council.

Only weeks before the Gulf disaster in an open sop to the oil companies Obama declared his intention to make large regions of the US coastline available for oil drilling.The Deepwater Horizon explosion is the result of decades of deregulation which proclaimed that the free market could best regulate itself. Beginning in the late 1970s the US government under both Democratic and Republican administrations has worked to systematically eliminate all constraints on corporate profit making

Oh I can see this meeting solving the issue right away lol.

[MonoxideChild]

Ha what if he really did kcik his *** behind closed doors. You know, bring it back to circa 1900.

[TheSphinx 2.0]

My lack of understanding?? Seriously??? Naive much? Here is what I've known which is why this meeting is a total circle jerk!!!



Oh I can see this meeting solving the issue right away lol.

So because Obama got money from BP he shouldn't try to learn about the disaster and try to make sure it is handled quickly and properly...he shouldn't put the screws to them because they supported him...because obviously getting things done quicker wouldn't have saved BP money and wouldn't have saved the more than $50b in lost market capilatization...also since Obama got a lot of money for BP he is obviously willing to throw his political career away for them because no other firm (like maybe all the other oil and gas firms circling BP to buy them now) would benefit from BP going under...and might give him some money next time...

Stop basing your opinin on some article you got from the net and trying to use it to make you look like you know more than you know...

Once again, you have obviously never been in any type of big money, big deal situation becuase if you had you would have a totally different opinion...

-TS

[sanantonio]

So because Obama got money from BP he shouldn't try to learn about the disaster and try to make sure it is handled quickly and properly...he shouldn't put the screws to them because they supported him...because obviously getting things done quicker wouldn't have saved BP money and wouldn't have saved the more than $50b in lost market capilatization...also since Obama got a lot of money for BP he is obviously willing to throw his political career away for them because no other firm (like maybe all the other oil and gas firms circling BP to buy them now) would benefit from BP going under...and might give him some money next time...

Stop basing your opinin on some article you got from the net and trying to use it to make you look like you know more than you know...

Once again, you have obviously never been in any type of big money, big deal situation becuase if you had you would have a totally different opinion...

-TS

It's not an opinion it's a fact now you can bury your head in the sand if you want but decades of deregulation will do that. There is nothing I posted previously that was opinion it was all fact.

Do you want to see the many BP regulatory bypasses that led up to the explosion or will you count that as opinion as well?

[TheSphinx 2.0]

I give up...you are 100% right. Having the President meet with the CEO of BP to get up to speed on what is going on from the people that actully know the most about the biggest oil spill in the history of the nation and to put pressure on the company to get it done faster to limit the potential negative impact on the Gulf coast, the US, and his presidency is a complete and total waste of time! It was a very smart move for him to not do a meeting with them because the risk/reward was so in favor of not talking to them at all. What was I thinking???

-TS

[sanantonio]

I give up...you are 100% right. Having the President meet with the CEO of BP to get up to speed on what is going on from the people that actully know the most about the biggest oil spill in the history of the nation and to put pressure on the company to get it done faster to limit the potential negative impact on the Gulf coast, the US, and his presidency is a complete and total waste of time! It was a very smart move for him to not do a meeting with them because the risk/reward was so in favor of not talking to them at all. What was I thinking???

-TS

Bottom line neither the president or the head of BP give a phugg about you me or the environment. The only thing they are meeting about is damage control for BP and limiting liability. You can believe what you want but the reality of it is we are in this mess because of BP and the government. So now we should some how rally behind the very cause of the catastrophe to begin with. N**ga please!!!!

[R-ILLA]

I'm sorry but you obviously have never been in a meeting with the big boss to say that seeing the man face to face accomplishes nothing. Ask any lawyer how things move when a Partner walks into the room. (Hey Side, I don't know if you work in a Partnership but if you do what happens when a partner -- named or otherwise -- shows up to a meeting or asks you for your report or tells you he wants to see your findings tomorrow morning). Ask any financial analyst what happens when the CFO sits in on a meeting. Ask anybody what happens when the CEO comes to a meeting. When the big guys show up it means something....people work harder...they move faster...the adrenaline starts pumping...the brain starts firing. I've lived it too many times...I know it has an effect.

Sure the President isn't going to walk in and things will magically be solved, but if you don't think having to look the Man in the face and give him a report makes people work that much harder and stay up that much longer to figure out a solution then I flat out think you are wrong. I have been on both ends of it (being the man in a situation -- sort of -- and being the guy reporting to the man) and when you know the big guy has his eye on you it matters...ALOT. You don't go home as early as you might have. You make that extra call. You look at that extra piece of data. You dot every I and cross every T (even if you already did it) you go back and make sure you didn't miss something.

I can remember countless times watching people work at what I thought was an incredibly rapid pace double their speed and efforts when the big boss gets involved. Shoot I remember one time I was running a meeting when I was a banking analyst on Wall Street. I prepared for the meeting incredibly hard and went over everything and was about to call it a night when I got a call from my boss saying that the big man was coming to the meeting because there was some connnection to a big deal on the other side of the bank and they wanted somebody more senior than the two of us there to show how important this was to the firm. First of all my presentation was cut in half because my boss then wanted to get some shine (because the big man was going to be there...funny how that works). Needless to say I stayed up all night going over things and came into the meeting jacked up...and crushed it (even with my part being shared with my boss). Would I have been as on point if the big man wasn't there? I don't know but there was no way in hell I was going to find that out. Now if I was that freaked out about a small banking client, imagine what it must be like to have to sit across from the President of the United States and say "uh sorry but I don't know what to do". If that is the answer someone has to give to the POTUS (the most powerful man in the world) I am pretty damn sure he/she hadn't slept the last 5 nights because they were tyring everything under the sun to not have to have that moment.

Seriously, it means something...and it has an effect. I'm sure in running your company you have noticed that when you get on the phone with a supplier or with a customer it means a lot more than when your underling does...

-TS That's what he'd lead you to believe. I guess it all in the eyes of the beholder.

[Nevada_Ballin]

I'm sorry but you obviously have never been in a meeting with the big boss to say that seeing the man face to face accomplishes nothing. Ask any lawyer how things move when a Partner walks into the room. (Hey Side, I don't know if you work in a Partnership but if you do what happens when a partner -- named or otherwise -- shows up to a meeting or asks you for your report or tells you he wants to see your findings tomorrow morning). Ask any financial analyst what happens when the CFO sits in on a meeting. Ask anybody what happens when the CEO comes to a meeting. When the big guys show up it means something....people work harder...they move faster...the adrenaline starts pumping...the brain starts firing. I've lived it too many times...I know it has an effect.

Sure the President isn't going to walk in and things will magically be solved, but if you don't think having to look the Man in the face and give him a report makes people work that much harder and stay up that much longer to figure out a solution then I flat out think you are wrong. I have been on both ends of it (being the man in a situation -- sort of -- and being the guy reporting to the man) and when you know the big guy has his eye on you it matters...ALOT. You don't go home as early as you might have. You make that extra call. You look at that extra piece of data. You dot every I and cross every T (even if you already did it) you go back and make sure you didn't miss something.

I can remember countless times watching people work at what I thought was an incredibly rapid pace double their speed and efforts when the big boss gets involved. Shoot I remember one time I was running a meeting when I was a banking analyst on Wall Street. I prepared for the meeting incredibly hard and went over everything and was about to call it a night when I got a call from my boss saying that the big man was coming to the meeting because there was some connnection to a big deal on the other side of the bank and they wanted somebody more senior than the two of us there to show how important this was to the firm. First of all my presentation was cut in half because my boss then wanted to get some shine (because the big man was going to be there...funny how that works). Needless to say I stayed up all night going over things and came into the meeting jacked up...and crushed it (even with my part being shared with my boss). Would I have been as on point if the big man wasn't there? I don't know but there was no way in hell I was going to find that out. Now if I was that freaked out about a small banking client, imagine what it must be like to have to sit across from the President of the United States and say "uh sorry but I don't know what to do". If that is the answer someone has to give to the POTUS (the most powerful man in the world) I am pretty damn sure he/she hadn't slept the last 5 nights because they were tyring everything under the sun to not have to have that moment.

Seriously, it means something...and it has an effect. I'm sure in running your company you have noticed that when you get on the phone with a supplier or with a customer it means a lot more than when your underling does...

-TS

For over 10 years, I had scheduled weekly meetings with head honchos in 2 different corporations. I've spent plenty of time with the "big bosses", wasted more time listening to hours of worthless chatter to get a solution to a problem that should have only taken 30 minutes. The exit comments after a lot of those meetings have been as varied as the color spectrum depending on what was on the table.

You're not the only person here who's been there, done that. I don't miss it one bit.

I'll just leave it at that.


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[SUPDOG]

i give up...you are 100% right. Having the president meet with the ceo of bp to get up to speed on what is going on from the people that actully know the most about the biggest oil spill in the history of the nation and to put pressure on the company to get it done faster to limit the potential negative impact on the gulf coast, the us, and his presidency is a complete and total waste of time! It was a very smart move for him to not do a meeting with them because the risk/reward was so in favor of not talking to them at all. What was i thinking???

-ts

lol!!!!!!!!!!!

[543 Double Play]

Bottom line neither the president or the head of BP give a phugg about you me or the environment. The only thing they are meeting about is damage control for BP and limiting liability. You can believe what you want but the reality of it is we are in this mess because of BP and the government. So now we should some how rally behind the very cause of the catastrophe to begin with. N**ga please!!!!

You mean Obama doesn't care about me? I thought he understood that us/me was hurting? He stated several times before he was elected, "I know the American People are hurting". And I thought he really cared. Boy, did we get bamboozled.

[sanantonio]

You mean Obama doesn't care about me? I thought he understood that us/me was hurting? He stated several times before he was elected, "I know the American People are hurting". And I thought he really cared. Boy, did we get bamboozled.

He didn't get my vote so We didn't get bamboozled. But if it makes you feel any better there are no politicians that truly care beyond thier next campaign. And that includes the sucka I voted for. :p

[SUPDOG]

For over 10 years, I had scheduled weekly meetings with head honchos in 2 different corporations. I've spent plenty of time with the "big bosses", wasted more time listening to hours of worthless chatter to get a solution to a problem that should have only taken 30 minutes. The exit comments after a lot of those meetings have been as varied as the color spectrum depending on what was on the table.

You're not the only person here who's been there, done that. I don't miss it one bit.

I'll just leave it at that.


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A. Meetings with Ronald McDonald doesn't count. :)


B. I bet you took their instructions and did what they said, right?

C. Having a weekly meeting (though important and you were told what to do and did it I bet), is much different than having an emergency meeting after a major catastrophe, etc.


G.W. would have met w/ BP CEO a short time after. Obama didn't want to meet with him because he hates capitalists, just like you do. Either that or he had too many celebs to entertain, etc. Or golf, or vacations, etc.

Too much for our diva to handle, ya know? Meet w/ BP guy or go hit the driving range? I mean who would want to waste their time w/ an evil racist capitalist when you can work on your draw shot?

[SUPDOG]

He didn't get my vote so We didn't get bamboozled. But if it makes you feel any better there are no politicians that truly care beyond thier next campaign. And that includes the sucka I voted for. :p

A. I find it hard to belive you voted for anyone other than Obama. You are too much of a bobblehead for me to believe otherwise.

B. You have long left your disguise of being anything but a socialist goofy goof a long time ago, so yes, you are certainly part of the "WE" that Obama is gonna take care of.....


In case you deny it, here are your current stances:

A. Pro Obamacare

B. Pro-govt. bailouts

C. Pro- wealth distribution, etc.,

D. Pro abortion...

E. Etc, etc. etc.

[Nevada_Ballin]

A. Meetings with Ronald McDonald doesn't count. :)


B. I bet you took their instructions and did what they said, right?

C. Having a weekly meeting (though important and you were told what to do and did it I bet), is much different than having an emergency meeting after a major catastrophe, etc.


G.W. would have met w/ BP CEO a short time after. Obama didn't want to meet with him because he hates capitalists, just like you do. Either that or he had too many celebs to entertain, etc. Or golf, or vacations, etc.

Too much for our diva to handle, ya know? Meet w/ BP guy or go hit the driving range? I mean who would want to waste their time w/ an evil racist capitalist when you can work on your draw shot?

A> Na, fortunately I never had a meeting with you. You couldn't rate high enough to be in those meetings.

B> Of course we did what they asked - but what they asked didn't always work because some of them came up with some pretty stupid sht at times. Which led to pulling them aside and saying "I'm gonna try this instead, I'll keep you updated".

C> Obama has had plenty of meetings. Seems to me you are treating the CEO of BP as the diva. OMG, HE'S THE HEAD OF BP - HE DESERVES A SEAT WITH THE PRESIDENT AT THE WHITE HOUSE! HE DESERVES TO EXPLAIN HIMSELF IN PERSON! NO, WAIT, MAYBE OBAMA IS GONNA KICK HIS ASZ! THAT'S IT! HE FOUND OUT WHO'S ASZ TO KICK AND IT'S THAT'S WHAT THIS MEETING IS FOR!" ....lol.. gtfoh .... big waste of time and effort. Both of these guys could be spending their time doing more responsible things to help. Obama with the Governors and people of the coast, Hayward with engineers and clean up crews.

Nothing is going to be any different after this meeting. Today a BP spokesperson said it's not their responsibility to pick up any injured or dead wildlife found along the beaches. I think that's absurd.

Do you think that's going to change after this meeting? No.
Do you think the oil geyser is going to be plugged any sooner? No.
Do you think these fisherman/shellfishers who are waiting for BP to cut them a check are going to get it any sooner? No.

This is nothing but a photo-op for the media to make it look like they are doing something. They'll probably talk more about getting BP's stock back up.

As for GW meeting with BP - that would have been a mistake as well. Then again, GW may have tried to help them cover things up - his admin was really good at that kind of thing, temporarily at least. "Heck of a job Brownie".

Why didn't his daddy meet with Exxon's CEO after the Alaskan oil spill?


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[sanantonio]

A. I find it hard to belive you voted for anyone other than Obama. You are too much of a bobblehead for me to believe otherwise.

B. You have long left your disguise of being anything but a socialist goofy goof a long time ago, so yes, you are certainly part of the "WE" that Obama is gonna take care of.....


In case you deny it, here are your current stances:

A. Pro Obamacare

B. Pro-govt. bailouts

C. Pro- wealth distribution, etc.,

D. Pro abortion...

E. Etc, etc. etc.

I would say you just enjoy being wrong but it's more a case of stupidity then anything else for you.

A. I'm for any kind of health care reform that will at least attempt to correct our current health care debacle.

B. I'm for helping the little guy not the corporate whores that our government has no problem sleeping with.

C. See B.

D. I'm no more pro abortion then you are pro child molestation. I do however feel it is the womans choice and may God have mecy on her soul if she chooses to do so.

Plus you don't believe anything but what the far right tells you to believe anyway. You and all your bobble babble and you have no clue as to how all of this political bullshyt works. You only know what the right leads you to believe.

The POTUS is an international figure head that has about as much power as is allowed by those in power. And who are those in power you ask? Whoever controls the money flow controls the power. The media is thier PR machine and they spin fools like you on a daily basis to go after things like ACORN and illegals while they steal from you right before your very eyes lol. You are an indoctrinated foot soldier of those in power and you don't even know it.

I voted for Ron Paul by the way and he's a dyke head too.

[Nevada_Ballin]

SanAn~

You have understand why Supdog supports the meeting - it isn't because he has his own thoughts here. He can't tell us why he thinks it's a good idea. It's because Sarah Palin said it was a good idea. And anything Sarahcuda says is gospel for him.

Strings pulled.


I stand on my convictions with this issue and will defer any further comments because I'll just end up repeating myself in different ways. Obama meeting with Hayward = worthless

:)


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[SUPDOG]

SanAn~

You have understand why Supdog supports the meeting - it isn't because he has his own thoughts here. He can't tell us why he thinks it's a good idea. It's because Sarah Palin said it was a good idea. And anything Sarahcuda says is gospel for him.

Strings pulled.


I stand on my convictions with this issue and will defer any further comments because I'll just end up repeating myself in different ways. Obama meeting with Hayward = worthless

:)


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Actually, I already gave an explanation as to why it would be a good idea. You see, unlike you and your pal San Dopio, I run a productive small business. I know the ins and outs of customer service, customer support, and certainly the importance of meeting with customers/vendors if there is a problem, hearing their solutions, suggesting my own,etc. More often than not we both come up w/ good ideas that WORK WELL TOGETHER.

Now, if Obama wasn't a completely clueless moron you would think that members of his staff would get in touch with people who make a living at dealing with this sort of crisis, take their ideas, and run them past BP, etc. That makes sense, does it not? Answer please.

Who else would be better than to run these ideas than the president? Why not set up a meeting and discuss these things, AND THE IMPORTANCE of "getting to it YESTERDAY!"

Why not? What is more important NB? Golf outings? Vacations? Its been 50+ days right?

But maybe you are right, a meeting between Obama and ANYONE would be a bad idea because the president is a complete idiot.

Yeah, I'm on board with you now! No meetings, the president is simply too stupid. Thanks for helping me see the "light"!

:)

[Nevada_Ballin]

Actually, I already gave an explanation as to why it would be a good idea. You see, unlike you and your pal San Dopio, I run a productive small business. I know the ins and outs of customer service, customer support, and certainly the importance of meeting with customers/vendors if there is a problem, hearing their solutions, suggesting my own,etc. More often than not we both come up w/ good ideas that WORK WELL TOGETHER.

Now, if Obama wasn't a completely clueless moron you would think that members of his staff would get in touch with people who make a living at dealing with this sort of crisis, take their ideas, and run them past BP, etc. That makes sense, does it not? Answer please.

Who else would be better than to run these ideas than the president? Why not set up a meeting and discuss these things, AND THE IMPORTANCE of "getting to it YESTERDAY!"

Why not? What is more important NB? Golf outings? Vacations? Its been 50+ days right?

But maybe you are right, a meeting between Obama and ANYONE would be a bad idea because the president is a complete idiot.

Yeah, I'm on board with you now! No meetings, the president is simply too stupid. Thanks for helping me see the "light"!

:)

I've been a part of a few successful businesses.... and some failed ones too.... and working on getting my present one up the ladder. I know how it goes.

Now you're catching on. It isn't because he's stupid, it's because this is not an area of expertise (oil spills and clean up) that most people would know about. This is why you have "people" as POTUS... it's why you bring in your own experts to evaluate, make recommendations and "work together" with BP to get things done. That's who BP meets with. That's why Thad Allen is there. Obama is over-extending here.

I find it kind of funny that I had in a position where you were defending Obama though ... lol


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[Gtrght77]

i would say you just enjoy being wrong but it's more a case of stupidity then anything else for you.

A. I'm for any kind of health care reform that will at least attempt to correct our current health care debacle.

B. I'm for helping the little guy not the corporate whores that our government has no problem sleeping with.

C. See b.

D. i'm no more pro abortion then you are pro child molestation. i do however feel it is the womans choice and may god have mecy on her soul if she chooses to do so.

Plus you don't believe anything but what the far right tells you to believe anyway. You and all your bobble babble and you have no clue as to how all of this political bullshyt works. You only know what the right leads you to believe.

The potus is an international figure head that has about as much power as is allowed by those in power. And who are those in power you ask? Whoever controls the money flow controls the power. The media is thier pr machine and they spin fools like you on a daily basis to go after things like acorn and illegals while they steal from you right before your very eyes lol. You are an indoctrinated foot soldier of those in power and you don't even know it.

I voted for ron paul by the way and he's a dyke head too.

lol.............

[sanantonio]

Actually, I already gave an explanation as to why it would be a good idea. You see, unlike you and your pal San Dopio, I run a productive small business. I know the ins and outs of customer service, customer support, and certainly the importance of meeting with customers/vendors if there is a problem, hearing their solutions, suggesting my own,etc. More often than not we both come up w/ good ideas that WORK WELL TOGETHER.

Now, if Obama wasn't a completely clueless moron you would think that members of his staff would get in touch with people who make a living at dealing with this sort of crisis, take their ideas, and run them past BP, etc. That makes sense, does it not? Answer please.

Who else would be better than to run these ideas than the president? Why not set up a meeting and discuss these things, AND THE IMPORTANCE of "getting to it YESTERDAY!"

Why not? What is more important NB? Golf outings? Vacations? Its been 50+ days right?

But maybe you are right, a meeting between Obama and ANYONE would be a bad idea because the president is a complete idiot.

Yeah, I'm on board with you now! No meetings, the president is simply too stupid. Thanks for helping me see the "light"!

:)

Government (past and present administrations) + BP= Current situation. Why would a meeting of the reason for the explosion some how be a solution?

By the way BP's 500 plus page contingency plan in the event of a spill was pure bullshyt!!!