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The Strategist
11-16-2004, 04:06 PM
Which type of 'straight' offensive player gives you the most trouble online?
jerseyjay14
11-16-2004, 04:07 PM
Which type of 'straight' offensive player gives you the most trouble online?
the most difficult opponent i find is the pocket passers who mix run and pass. people who can run the ball between the tackles and move the ball passing out of the pocket with 3 wR sets or less
BOOBOOSD
11-16-2004, 05:21 PM
the most difficult opponent i find is the pocket passers who mix run and pass. people who can run the ball between the tackles and move the ball passing out of the pocket with 3 wR sets or less
True, I played against many str8 ballers who ran formations like I-Form-Normal, I-Form-BIG, Singleback-Normal on me with the mix of run and pass and they were virtually unstoppable. No matter what I did, they were genius's at passing especially with only 1-3WRs and if I can remember none of these dudes ran corner routes.
d_neum80
11-16-2004, 11:56 PM
Well all of those styles can give someone trouble, it just really depends on the player. But for me the one that is most frustering if I can't stop it is just pounding the run. If someone is running all over me and I can't seem to stop it, it really pisses me off lol.
TRUEVisionDC
11-17-2004, 09:13 AM
Which type of 'straight' offensive player gives you the most trouble online?
For me if you are good at passing all the time then my D is in for a long game. I manually tackle cuz of the studda so running ALL OVER ME wont happen. You'll get your 70-80 with the good backs but that doesnt bother me much. Its the great passers that I cant stop consistently. I have to rely on an error on your part.
SweetMonkeyLuv
11-17-2004, 02:49 PM
I voted for balanced attack. I played a guy online last night who was eating me alive with like 4 or 5 plays out of I-form normal with the Cowboys (definitely not a high powered offense). He'd motion his FB out of the backfield to the strong side, then run that way off tackle for yards. Next play, he'd run a pretty vanilla pass play out of the same look, hitting either his TE on a skinny post, or one of his WRs on a 10 yard curl or 5 yard out. Every once in a while, he'd run one up the gut with his FB or Eddie George or hit Julius Jones in the flat.
He never really broke any big plays, but stopping him was almost impossible. When I brought heat, he hit the TE or HB flat route. WHen I doubled a WR, he threw into single coverage. He seemed to know just when his reciever would come open versus man or zone, and had the timing down pat hitting the WR. Pre-snap, every play looked the same, and there was nothing to key on. And even when I guessed right on what play was coming, it was hard to stop.
I ended up just settling for playing "bend don't break" D, and maknig him march down the field for his points. The way I see it, I got lucky by giving up only 13 points to his offense. Two of his drives stalled in the redzone and had to kick field goals, and one long drive went for a TD. I also stopped one drive with a user pick (manually controlling saftey, I guessed right and stepped in front of his WR on a curl).
On defense, he was nanoing the crap out of my Vikings out of what looked like a strong nickel. It took me a couple drives to find the right way to attack it, but I ended up hanging 24 points on him using a "max protect" scheme (hot routing TE and RBs to block and motioning Robinson accross the line) and lobbing deep strikes to Moss, Campbell, and Bennett.
Unfortunately, I lost 27 to 24 because he returned two fumbles for TDs after hit-sticking the hell out of me.
Samba_Idol
11-17-2004, 03:29 PM
the type of offense that sticks to run... then after 2 runs BAM!!! PA.... and switching back and forth from run to throw...
VENOM
11-18-2004, 03:31 AM
i have a problem with playing people who play like me. i mix up my runs and passes on downs. not only that, i pass and run out of every formation. i'll probably run every play in the book once, just to keep em guessin. i motion shift and hot route just about every play. when i play people who play like me, it's going to be hell.
Bobblehead707
11-18-2004, 11:57 AM
samba idol made a good point, because wut he described sounds like how i run my offense. i don't believe in abandoning the run, which some folks don't seem to understand. a good passing attack will usually last 1 half against my D, cuz 2nd half is when i like to make my adjustments (or i jus get tha breaks) and lock down the wr's. if someone runs it all day that can be very frustrating, because sometimes it can be hard to anticipate where it will go for some ballers. i try n control the MLB or FS to swarm the run n try to avoid the run juke.
TNT713
11-18-2004, 01:44 PM
The guys that never run out of adjustments are the guys that give me the most trouble... On defense, I can STOP EVERYTHING when I know it's coming. When my opponent shows me ALOT, it forces me to guess on defense.
Later
And how do you beat a 3-4 defefense?
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