Defending against the shotgun

[Metman07]

This one guy I play is really killing me. He lines up in a shotgun and he either passes it deep, or he just tucks it (he has a fast QB) and runs. He also calls a lot of draws out of the shotgun. What can I do to cover both. Usually I call prevents, cover 2s etc. out of the dime formations, but when I get the pass covered he just tucks it with his super fast QB and sprints for the first down.

Please help!

[BGSUcanesFAN]

if he's just going to chuck it deep, go Punt Return Safe and bring up the secondary

Either:
1)Control the safety, it's a cover 2, so control your side of the field, and keep the recievers in front of you

2) Take the opposite DE, and blitz the QB blind side...you can usually get in everytime. This is sorta cheezy, but someone who throws deep constantly deserves it.

[Metman07]

Thanks for the advice. Could you clarify what you mean when you say "bring up the secondary"? Do you mean make them move forward? How do you do that? Do you call a coverage audible (Y on the Xbox) and then just move the stick forward? I'm sorry, I've never known how to adjust the secondary, only the linebackers and D-line.

Thanks again.

[Air Raid]

I run a lot of option out of a lot of different formations, but my main base set is from the SG (Especially SG 2 Back Slot)...I like to spread the field and then run the football (I use either UAB's, Buffalo's or Georgia Tech's playbook). The D that I have the most trouble against is an aggressive 3-3-5.....if I see dime my eyes light up because it is too easy to run against from the Gun and it is to easy to exploit the MLB in the passing game.....but if all he does is the "Lob and Pray" offense try to use the Zone Blitz from the 3-3-5 and get manual pressure off the edges with your safties that play up next to your LBs (this play also provides 3 deep coverage)....if he runs a lot out of the gun try the SS Double Spy and again get pressure off the edges with your safties....other than that, the tip about using the punt return safe formation also works well....also learn matchups.....if he plays with fast WRs and your CBs and Safties are slow your going to lose against cover 2's because his WRs will just blow past you...make him beat you at your strengths!....another D that provides deep help and gets pressure is Nickle Crash 3

[blueweeds]

use the different zone blitzes to throw him off 3-3-5 dime 4-4 mix these in with maybe a nickel monster cover 2 on the monster your lb comes around one end and your nickel back comes around the other end use your safety to play over top on one side to take away half of the field.. cover 2 man gives good coverage bring manual pressure from de couple things to try.

[getting awn]

I ply mainly the 3-3-5 Zone blitz as my main formation. The reason that I can b so successful is that I analog blitz. I do it from a position that is hard to defend. Blitzing from the safety position is terrorizing for the offense, especially when they use one of the limited views to ply from. That is Y I use the overhead view. I can c what people r running from both the offensive and defensive side of the ball. I think I am successful bcause I can c the field. That is very important for both offense as well as defensive ply.

[blueweeds]

the 3-3-5 zone blitz is a good one but if you dont know how to manually control coverage you could be in for a long day. yes the 3-3-5 combined with the ab is tough but i have had success throwing all over this since the dbs dont get deep quick enough. to me once you get an opponnent not sure of what you are doing is the best way to manipulate your opponnent. basically i blitz and then come out in what looks like same play and play coverage. A defense that has woked for me is the 4-3 cover 4 since people see 4-3 and think they can beat it deep but if you have stick skills you can pick em off or big hit receiver. mix it up just as you would on offense get em throwing early scrambling for no reason keep em off balance.

[rhombic21]

The reason that I can b so successful is that I analog blitz.
The AB is so freaking lame, I can't believe that anybody would admit in public to doing it. Seriously, it takes ZERO skill to do. Whenever I play somebody who uses the AB, I immediately lose all respect for their game. I don't care what else they're doing, I can't respect anybody who needs to exploit the AI to play well.

You probably run HB toss pass, and HB Option pass too.

Cheeser.

[getting awn]

The AB is so freaking lame, I can't believe that anybody would admit in public to doing it. Seriously, it takes ZERO skill to do. Whenever I play somebody who uses the AB, I immediately lose all respect for their game. I don't care what else they're doing, I can't respect anybody who needs to exploit the AI to play well.

You probably run HB toss pass, and HB Option pass too.

Cheeser.
Unfortunately I use it, and it is used on me. So it is like a lot of things. U can't win alone by it, it takes more than one things to b successful.. But this is old news. It is out there so I use it to keep the pressure on the Qb. So what is ur point. Have u been ranting on someone else's website, and got booted off, so u have decided to come back here... LOL!!!!!

Did u bring ur pet Craw with u. I hate both of those plys. The Ab is stoppable, so u have to do more than just it. Come on man ur point is lame. Go back to whatever board u were booted from... sheesshhhh!!!!

[blueweeds]

just my opinion the half back pass run over and over is definetly cheese and immediately shows me how bad someone is. I think running any play over and over is crap. ab is questionable and i play as straight as my opponnent... if they high kick well.............. actually i used to fight fire with fire now i just win but i do ab some like last night the guy got texas and tried to sprint out left or right every play so i just started to blitz a safety from one side i didnt move him up just blitzed from safety position but i still did the ole ab from my safety position is this still considered cheese since he still had 3 to 4 seconds and only got hisself in trouble when he tried to roll towards safety.

[getting awn]

U can always tell when a kid is on the line. But to ur question Blue. U do what u have to do. If people stayed in the pocket the AB would not b a problem. But people try to run from one side to another. But I don't want to make excuses, so I won't now. The only thing I do that people complain about is the AB. As far as repetitive plys. I say run it, until they stop it. Any HB/WR option ply is chesse if they don't use it for its intended purpose. But I don't care about chesse. If u stop a plyers chesse, what does he have. Nothing..... People have not learn how to run, pass, or read defenses. Those who run to gimmick plys, end up losing bcuase of their gimmick reliance. I plyed this high ranker. He Used the WR Direct. It gave me problems until I remembered the counter. He ended up losing the game, bcuase when it counted, he couldn't move the ball. I love this game, and I know how to ply it well, with or without the AB. The AB just makes my dfense stats look good....

[blueweeds]

lol i agree awn ab will boost those stats but to me it is like anything if you line up in the same d every play and u ab every time its bs yeah it may work but i dont agree with that style. to me its like madden if you call this play and send this guy in motion its a td well that takes no strategy at all to call a play no matter what you opponnent is doing in that case put the stick down and play coach mode. to me its all about adjustments if you cant adjust you are only as good as your opponnent. play now sucks i mean i cant get any competition from play now its not even fun every now and then you get a good game. the only reason i go to play now is because of my record it is hard to get games cause guys see ive only lost 2 and assume i cheat which is hilarious because for some reason people are so bad they believe you have to cheat to win that many without losing. play now compounds my problem though because i keep getting more easy wins lol............ if i see someone with a good record my response is show me beat me prove your rank lets ball.................................

[getting awn]

I only ply the ply now function, bcause I don't have to beg for a game. I guess everyone has their own preference. I can imagine if I bring my record up to challenge someone. 134-11, I will b treated the same way... To me, ply now eliminates the hassle of begging for a game. U have so many premos that it is ridiculous. But I c ur point.

To me if u can't stop my ply, then u get it all day... But I do change up, 3-3-5 is just my base d, the one I ply most often. What I will do for a challenge is take a team like BC, and use my same style.. But I won't change my plying style.

I just remembered, that on Ply now u can focus on the rank of the plyers u can face. There is a setting for Top 1000, Top 5000, similar ranking and so on. So I think that would answer and issue u had with ply now, and the quality of plyers Blueweed...

[blueweeds]

thanks awn i did forget you could set that so i will try that good luck all

[rhombic21]

A) I didn't get booted from another board.

B) Learn how to speak/write standard english. I promise you'll need those skills if you want to do anything other than flip burgers or dig ditches the rest of your life. I'm guessing from your posts, but you seem like you're about 13 years old. Stay in school man, you're going to need it.

C) It really takes zero skill to AB. That's why I don't respect it. ANYBODY can do it, and be just as effective. I could teach my brother, who never plays, how to AB, and he'd be just as good at it as you are. It's lame, and it takes absolutely no talent. I have ZERO respect for anybody who's game is so lame that they have to exploit AI holes in order to win. It doesn't impress me when you have to stoop to such lows in order to win a precious video game. Are you that big of a loser that you need to win so badly that you'll pervert the game like that? Nobody cares about your online record or rank man. It's not fun when the game turns into a "let's exploit the crappy AI as much as possible" fest. The game is fun when you play it like real football, the way it was designed to be played. You don't get a cookie for winning 30 games in a row. In addition, you're going to be serously ****ed over next year, when they finally take it out. Then what are you going to do, since you've been relying on the AB for 2 years now?

[getting awn]

U r so immature. I choose to type the way I do.. So grow up junior... U always come on this board and start trouble. Then disappear, and probably start trouble some where else. Next time u leave stay gone... Sheesh.. U cry old milk, and then send me a private message about a game.....

It is obvious that u surfer from a character defect... U come on trying to insult someone. Then when u can't u try to get indignant... It is obvious u r a poor sport at ply, and will do anything to get attention....

[blueweeds]

like i always say DO WHAT YOU DO!

[Holycrawfish]

only reason i came onto this Forum was to find out if all the glitches got out. I was in the chat room when Stead got pissd at me and told every1 how to glitch. I kno them all and how to stop them i just wanted to make sure no1 on forums was telling people how to glitch, Which would ruin the game even more. I choose not to glitch bc its a stupid game and i cant be stopt anyways. I tell people how to counter glitches and help peeps out instead of telling people the glitches and ruin online play for every1. O and i have nothing to do w/ rhombic so chill. Only reason i wrote a post about u is bc u think u r the **** and cant lose. Well its pretty dam hard to lose to a scrub in the first place.
i run 335 also but zone blitzes r worst D possible and that gets torn apart. i run str8 up old fashion mad D and works very well.

[getting awn]

only reason i came onto this Forum was to find out if all the glitches got out. I was in the chat room when Stead got pissd at me and told every1 how to glitch. I kno them all and how to stop them i just wanted to make sure no1 on forums was telling people how to glitch, Which would ruin the game even more. I choose not to glitch bc its a stupid game and i cant be stopt anyways. I tell people how to counter glitches and help peeps out instead of telling people the glitches and ruin online play for every1. O and i have nothing to do w/ rhombic so chill. Only reason i wrote a post about u is bc u think u r the **** and cant lose. Well its pretty dam hard to lose to a scrub in the first place.
i run 335 also but zone blitzes r worst D possible and that gets torn apart. i run str8 up old fashion mad D and works very well.
LOL..... People r amazing. Well I did say I was a jugernaut, so u do have a point. But I also said I would ply u... I am up for the challenge. We don't talk about glitches here. Some debate about the Ab blitz. But outside of that, we don't preach glitches. But its all good. I'm a very good plyer. I will say that. From what I read, u r one of the best. But I would take a shot at the champ.......

[Holycrawfish]

Good bc stead and redzonein aka State 05 basically told about 50 people in the room how to do certain glitches. I kno how to stop them all but still got glitchd by Willbreaku05. The worst glitch that wont count the game is very very hard to stop and its at the end of the game. So at pause screen and the game freezes then says cont vs cpu, or the game doesnt show up u can blame stead10 or state05 bc they are fkn idiots. Id play u tonight but my dam Tv broke, maybe the shoe i threw at it killd it but ya we will ply

[getting awn]

Good bc stead and redzonein aka State 05 basically told about 50 people in the room how to do certain glitches. I kno how to stop them all but still got glitchd by Willbreaku05. The worst glitch that wont count the game is very very hard to stop and its at the end of the game. So at pause screen and the game freezes then says cont vs cpu, or the game doesnt show up u can blame stead10 or state05 bc they are fkn idiots. Id play u tonight but my dam Tv broke, maybe the shoe i threw at it killd it but ya we will ply
I am going to the big easy on Monday for Christmas Week. But I will b back on December 27th, so we can hook up that week...

U know I may've got glitched by that and didn't know it. I always thought that my record should've been better, but just let it slide. But what can u do. U have to take the bad with the good. That is another reason Y I ply the now circuit. People who r to amped up to ply ya, have reasons. One of them is that if they r good, they r good for a reason. I look at a lot of the top 10, and alot of them have that rice vs. Ok bs on their record... Well that's another story... So I will look for ya when I get bck from New Orlean. When r u normally on???

[Holycrawfish]

im on to much u cant miss me, i wont be on this weekend but when u get back ill look for ya

[TnGolf22]

Wow did someone start a heated thread or what? LOL

I'm not sure what the big deal is about analog blitzes. I've never really tried it so I don't even use it. Of course I don't play online just against a few friends and the AI so I don't consider myself a veteran or necessarily a good player but if the game allows you to manually control players what's the big deal about using it? For purists it doesn't reflect reality so I can understand that but unless rules are set beforehand not to use AB I don't see the problem using AB.

By the way I've tried blitzing with the safety manually a couple of times but against the Heisman it's difficult to get to the QB in time to make a difference. Maybe I'm doing it wrong or need more practice but any suggestions would help. I'm wanting to try it more now to see what the big deal is! :D

[blueweeds]

the Ab done right can be very difficult especially if you are on the road
(homefield). some people line up in same d every play and blitz from both sides etc.etc this can be difficult if you cant keep blockers in. but the ab is like alot of things it can be beat and if overused it is not nearly as effective.
if i use it which is becoming less and less i mix it in especially against someone who comes out in five wides and lobs it up all day thats when i stop that ish before he gets the ball off.
i like to blitz from the place that the d originally lines up not bring the safety to the corner and come off of the end.

[Spread Option]

What the heck is Analog Blitzing? I play NCAA football 2005 a lot....and I am not familiar with this.

[LaRrY GWV]

i dont use Ab because of all the bad publicity(lol) but actually in real life if i want a guy to blitz as soon as he sees the ball snapped he is going to be in the backfield extremely fast. not AS fast as ABing but pretty close. but without ab, if you have a guy blitzing he sets there like a moron for a second before blitzing. that isnt realistic either.Abing is actually closer to real life than not ABing. Abing is just a split second faster than what i could do in real life.
And it is true if you have a great record on this game you are assumed as a cheater. i had to quit another name cause ppl thought i cheated, Champ Dawg86.