BOMBER - Need Bump n run help

[canerraid72]

Bomber, I need help with plays against the delayed Bump and run coverage. The covergae where the they press and then back off and they are still in Bump and run, but they pick you up 4 yards deeper than at the line. It seems like am being held forever. In the 3-3-5 the LB's even hold you for a while. How can I beat it?

[djwill13]

what pb are you using? i've found two formations (same play) that feature an unbumpable route.

[getting awn]

Bomber, I need help with plays against the delayed Bump and run coverage. The covergae where the they press and then back off and they are still in Bump and run, but they pick you up 4 yards deeper than at the line. It seems like am being held forever. In the 3-3-5 the LB's even hold you for a while. How can I beat it?
If they r 4 yds off the line of scrimage and BNR, then u should have room to run to the outside. I also try to work from a passing formation that I can run from. Shotgun Spread, with the HB direct is the perfect ply to beat the Delayed BNR...

[canerraid72]

I am using Oklahoma's play book. I should but I dont have room to run to the outside. The play is set up so that in the 335, the line and linebackers take up the linemen. 3 down linemen and 3 linebackers, equal 6 Def against 5 offense. Factor in the Safties on either side, that is 8 in the box. Trust me when i say this, it is difficult.
Listen guys, the guys that play this D are highly ranked. We are not talking about the average player who stumbles upon 1 defensive set and play and uses it and when you figure it out, he has no game. This D is hard and i need something to get them out of it. I am asking for passing plays because I need to not be 1 dimensional.
DJWILL13, if you have the plays, I will find a play book that has my formations in it with what your saying, I am not against change.

[getting awn]

Yea I use this also.... People use it on me... It is more of a cat and mouse game. Sub Peterson in as ur main back... Depth chart ur backs in term of speed. Set ur Sub Rate to the max, to keep a fresh back in there. Treat the 3-3-5, like the 3-4. Regardless of the d he calls. U should b able to hit it between the tackles and kick it to the outside.

Another ply I will normally run is a rb in motion and take on the Safety. That is a good match up any day... U have to b at home to make this work the best. I call up the Deep attack, and motion the back into the pattern.. Hike it as soon as he hits the corner. U should get a match up of the safety/linebacker on him.

I really believe that u will have to do a lot of motion on these formations to free someone up. HFA is terrible, bcause depending on the strength of the HFA. U will have problems hiking the ball. The best candidate is the rb motioning to the slot.

[djwill13]

look for a pb with either shotgun bunch or shotgun trips. both have a play called "clearout All" the outside most WR's route is unbumpable every single time and is always open. Buffalo's pb has both formations

the Run n gun pb has shotgun bunch too.

you kinda have to be careful with that play though, most guys will AB blitz you and have a MLB cover over the middle. run away from the ab blitz (and watch the MLB follow you!!!! [insider tip]). hit the "clearout WR" over the middle. good for 5-12 yards (possibly more depending on the coverage the d is in)

try these and let me know what you think

[Air Raid]

look for a pb with either shotgun bunch or shotgun trips. both have a play called "clearout All" the outside most WR's route is unbumpable every single time and is always open. Buffalo's pb has both formations

the Run n gun pb has shotgun bunch too.

you kinda have to be careful with that play though, most guys will AB blitz you and have a MLB cover over the middle. run away from the ab blitz (and watch the MLB follow you!!!! [insider tip]). hit the "clearout WR" over the middle. good for 5-12 yards (possibly more depending on the coverage the d is in)

try these and let me know what you think

..There is also a unbumpable route out of the No-Back formation...the far outside WR on the right runs the same type of route as those in the clearout play...this one takes a little more timing and you have to throw it a little quicker then the clearouts, but it is money for 4-8 yards on the quick hit and if they don't leave anybody over the middle (they bring the house) you can take it for a big gainer....just a little spice for your game....

[Holycrawfish]

Call ace norm and then hb dive, run towards the sideline... just because the ss is closer to the DEs.. hes how u can run for 200+ vs it....................................... Here it is....... SPIN MOVE-- right after a step and ur GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! vs 425 they try to move the ss's near Des then u just run right inbetween the De and Dt.. I know this works bc i kno how to kill the D i run and how to stop the spin moves.... Their u go have fun

[djwill13]

spin works outta the flexbone fb dive play too against the 3-3-5 and 4-2-5, just run to the outside!!!!

[getting awn]

spin works outta the flexbone fb dive play too against the 3-3-5 and 4-2-5, just run to the outside!!!!
On the interaction of the plyer with their team. What I like to do is control as much of the aspect as I can. I think that is Y for the majority of the time, I am successful with a lot of formations. It isn't just the formations that I use, but it is my interaction with the game. I like to give the person some room on the first drive to c what he does. Sometimes it results in a TD sometimes it doesn't. The next series is when I begin to clamp down on his attempts. I normally do a lot of things manually. If I have a weakness, it is manual coverage of recievers. But I have learned to allow the cpu to move the man in position, and then take it over as the ball gets close to the receiver.

[canerraid72]

Awn, That is my problem too. I take control of the right player, but what do you hit and where do you stand when the circle is in front of you. It seems as though I slow the DB down to block the circle, only to ahve him catch the ball.
On the flipside, When I am going to catch the ball, it seems as though my opponent hits me before I get to the circle to catch the ball, but there is no call for PI. What can I do for this? Do I swat or do I Big Hit?

HOLY, yeah that spin works because you did it to me last night. Michigan vs OSU, I was up 20-7 in the first half. I ended up losing when you started doing the spin in the second half. You blocked my extra point.

[getting awn]

That the L2 is the best button to hit. Pressing Triangle will result in ur opponent catching the ball most of the time, so I stop using it. I now go for the big hit....

[Holycrawfish]

HOLY, yeah that spin works because you did it to me last night. Michigan vs OSU, I was up 20-7 in the first half. I ended up losing when you started doing the spin in the second half. You blocked my extra point.

Huh i retired.....200 rushn yards in the 2nd half??? O wait yeah that was me.....Lol gg tho

[blueweeds]

blocked extra point lol

[Holycrawfish]

yea i can block PATs and Fgs now

[getting awn]

Punts yea, Fg... Not yet. I really don't try to either... If I have to try and block a field goal. Than I am really struggling. So I normally don't care if my opponent kicks fg or not... Plus I try not to block punts too often, bcause then he starts going for it on 4th.... But once again. I don't have to try those things, bcuase I ply normally way out in front of the pack....

[Holycrawfish]

took me about a 2-3 weeks to get blocking the Fgs/ Pats down pat..now i can block mostly every PAT or fg on a good day