Madden glitch

[Try2win1]

I have been burned by two people who use this glitch online. They run a 3 wr set but all 3 wr are on the left of the screen, and they will throw a very fast hitch to the wr who really dont move and he isnt covered because the other 2 wr do a criss cross and leave him open even when I called man to man.....and if the wr moves a bit and then stops u most likely will over persue him and he has a STRAIGHT shot to the end zone.........

Any ideals

[Precarious42]

Maybe try a zone? Just a thought

[joetoronto]

honestly?

dont play them again. anybody that uses a glitch dosent deserve a game in my books.

[Try2win1]

Yep Joe it was one of those deals where i took PLAY NOW....and I hated it now......


thanks

[Mister Marcus]

lol. I had a guy beat me like a drum using this play. I went to the lab and ran it against the cpu. I saw what the cpu ran to stop it. Played the same guy again and ran back two INTS for TDs. Zones that drop back dont work. Zones that step up do. Or you could take your DE step into the flat but it is difficult to do to stop this play.

This is a legitimate play and not a glitch. What would you do to stop it Joe?

[madden-ness]

Can you further explain this play? I want to try it....

[Try2win1]

we arent talking about the same play......and what zone steps up? and u would have to take your DE and move him way out of the picture to maybe pick this play or stop it so this is why i think we arent talking about the same play....

Plus it may be legit......but it worked like a glitch because there was NOT no one around him iniitially and then when the guy came over he would stop the WR and watch the DB run by then run straight for a TD

[icebergtim]

Cover 2 steps up, the CB steps in a flat.

[Try2win1]

cheese cheese cheese thats all BS.....its some PB Im not sure but it puts 3 wr on one side (left) and 1 TE and 1 RB and the WR is open for a fast pass and always and I mean always picks up 5-7 yds...and theres no play maker option being used to set this up...

If anyone wants to tackle this task....then PM me and I will supply the cheeser name online who runs this allways on 3rd down for a 1st...


IM sooooooooooooo frustrated with this BS

[joetoronto]

why isnt it a glitch, marcus? because you use it?

it is a glitch, look up the word buddy.

[Maniac]

Does anyone know the exact play ?

[Jquest]

I gotta agree with Mister Marcus there are plays like this that are designed to be ran quickly i.e....the Flanker Screen is one of em, this is a heads up play, with no playmaking involved or motion, audibling down from another play ect...ect...

[madden-ness]

Originally posted by Try2win1
cheese cheese cheese thats all BS.....its some PB Im not sure but it puts 3 wr on one side (left) and 1 TE and 1 RB and the WR is open for a fast pass and always and I mean always picks up 5-7 yds...and theres no play maker option being used to set this up...




So are you saying its a single back play w/ 3 wr's?


I use the raiders and i want to try this play...

[hadog32]

I know exactly what ur talking about.. their is even a more bitter glitch..

New England Playbook
Single back 5 WR set
the inside WR'S both do quick flats causing the CB to run in to the other CB'S leaving his WR open for 5 or more yards everytime.
the only way to defend plays like this is to back the corners off and physically pull up the inside CB's over the WR.. This will give him the lane to chase the reciever down when he runs the quick flat pattern..

In doing this the inside CB does not run into the other CORNERS

[Mister Marcus]

Originally posted by joetoronto
why isnt it a glitch, marcus? because you use it?

it is a glitch, look up the word buddy.

I agree with others...You're an A-hole.
No I don't use it. But you are very quick to call something cheese/glitch. Look at your first response to this thread..


Originally posted by joetoronto
Honestly?...blah blah

It shows that you weren't sure what was happening. You just cosigned. You NEVER elaborate as to what is happening, why it is/is not a glitch, etc. Your response to posts are so predictable. You will say "Only play people you know" or you frequently accuse someone else of cheesing or using a glitch (like u just did me). I asked you a simple question to see if you had any ideas. AND in true JOE fashion, you answered. Now if you read the rest of the thread, then you will see support for my earlier suggestion. There are defenses that play different zones. Zones that step up, step back, step to the side. There are even plays that have the DE step out to the sides themselves. Joe, try to get your *** in the lab so that your mouth can actually say something meaningful and HELP somebody. The fact that you only play people "you know" tells me that you really don't get to see many glitches....since the people you "know" are all str8 ballers, right? Try coming out of your shell, play some unknowns and then tell us what is a glitch and what's not.

I apologize to the rest of the board for what this turned into. Now, back to the topic...

A glitch it is not. At worse its cheese to use it everyplay.

[Try2win1]

hadog32 thanks for being honest man......and yes to anyone who thinks this isnt a glitch your dead wrong man.... Its true that its a LEGIT play but ran online against a human it is a glitch play big time and the CPU can sometimes but not all stop this......

I have now found out the PB as well as the play and its a hum dinger......I have not tried the New England one to see if its like this or not but this play I know of is a money play 24-7......and if u use it on 3rd down all the time u SUCK!!!!!!!.....

[hadog32]

I I dont use it but with the madden tournament coming up in Philly at the Market. I'm a little concerned of people using it on me..I can already play it, but they don't know that..

[dilbreen]

Thanks Marcus for calling out this jerk, JOetoronto...
ALL his posts are negative and he always attacks everyone. Cool it dude, its just a damn game....

I imagine he is some 50 year old guy that life has passed by. Now he is mad at the world and trying to take it out on us here on this board. I mean seriously whats with you guy. YOu are so quick to attack people for no reason. The majority of your posts have no purpose at all.

Thanks Mister Marcus.....

[Mister Marcus]

I always say, if it is known, then it can be beat. If you want to be specific about the play then I am sure people here will be specific about the defense to beat it. You have the whole VG community ready to lab it for you.

Peace

[chapo]

I can help out if given the offense play you guys are talking about..or at least be more descriptive..like can u confirm if its trips, trips bunch, shotgun...which receiver does he it.. even say "he hits the middle receiver"

chapo..

[Groundpounder]

I'm with Chapo, more descriptive..so far sounds like a trips shot and the middle WR steps back...sound right?

[joetoronto]

whatever makes you feel better buddy. you dont wanna call it a glitch? cool, keep using it then. show your stick skills. lol

[BigEasy]

Theres a defensive play in film room that shows how to stop this type of play using singleback 5 wide......Ive encountered this play and if I know its coming, I stop it easy. I have had ints, tackles for losses, and they gained a couple yds from it, but after a few times they wont use it any more. Its in my opinion not a cheese play. Theres is also a dime play too.

[WhyteOut]

its amazing how protective everyone is being over this play, every other thread someone will post the exact play and people will tell them exact plays to stop it, now we have people that won't tell the play so no one can look into stopping it and those that say they can stop it wont say how. why cause u use it?

[Try2win1]

WO keep in mind there are more people who would abuse this than not so this is why it is the way it is.....it will only be told if Kobra sees fit...

[nyc dss]

the play is in the Redskins playbook....3 wr's to the left, singleback......Coles is in the slot, and is always open.

[GT86]

Originally posted by Try2win1
cheese cheese cheese thats all BS.....its some PB Im not sure but it puts 3 wr on one side (left) and 1 TE and 1 RB and the WR is open for a fast pass and always and I mean always picks up 5-7 yds...and theres no play maker option being used to set this up...

If anyone wants to tackle this task....then PM me and I will supply the cheeser name online who runs this allways on 3rd down for a 1st...


IM sooooooooooooo frustrated with this BS

need more info is it shotgun single back and does it have a lone wr on the other side. In other words 4 wr's with 3 to one side and 1 to the other or just 3 wr's. Cover 2 should be able to stop it or any defense where the Cb plasy the short flat area or or even any play where the Lb's are spread or and play the short flat area or even th eover under plays where the outside Cb's play a deep zone and the slot cb's play a short flat zone.

[Try2win1]

nyc dss that isnt it

[GT86]

This isn't a glitch and is very easily stopped the play he is speaking about I believe is in the Jets PB under singleback Trips , has to be this Pb or Buffalo since they are the only two with trips to one side without a 4th wr on the other side. It is very easily stopped cover 2 or any play where the Outside Cb bumps the outside receiver , hell B&R even stop's it . The play is called Te corner out of the Jets playbook the most inside receiver runs a in around 10 -15 yds up the field the receiver in the middle runs a short drag just in front of the line and the outside receiver runs straight to the sideline. It will eat any zone play where the outside Cb drop back in a zone but is stopped very easily if they are in man and B&R is used or if you use a play like cv 2 or any short flat zone play by the cb's or even if the Saftey comes down to help the outside cb. It's not a glitch and is very easily stopped.

[Mister Marcus]

It kills B&R because the WR doesn't go out...he goes behind the other receivers. So all the DB does is get jammed up with the other DBs. If you try to move the DB to the outside so that the WR will just meet him, then the WR can be hot routed to a go route or inside slant which will have the DB yards behind him right from the jump. You have to play the pass and not the man.

[GT86]

The DB still bumps the wr I just spent an hr on this play and yes he goes out he does a drag to the side line, unless your speaking of a different play like a wr screen and thenj all you have to use is a man defense. But if you only have 2 cb's on that side and not in a short flat zone coverage then yes its a pain. But from what I have read here the guy is snapping and throwing real fast which leads me to believe he's not allowing for the route to devolp into a long route and just snapping and throwing which his is very easily stopped like i said. Go to pratice and choose this play then do random defense and you'll see what defenses work on it. Now from what you said here your saying he's going behind the other receivers which makes me believe this isn't the play that I've been working on and there is no other play like this in trips with a te and a rb in either the jets nor bills pb 's that come similar to this. Unless you and the other guy didn't explain yourselfs correctly and are speaking of a wheel pattern where the outside wr does a half circle route to the inside and then goes back to the outside again. If that is the case I will have to check and see if there is any wheel routes in that formation for those two playbooks.

[Mister Marcus]

He never said if it was shotgun or not, so I would also check the PBs that have shotgun trips te formation. It has several of these type of plays. ;)

[Try2win1]

gt 86 your off on this but I appreciate your efforts. Im not 100% sure of the play but Im 100% of the PB so once I find out we can proceed......the guys name on line is Dawg Shady and you can look him up and offer a game.....then maybe hint around to what WR button u use to throw to MORTON since he uses KC.....its either L1 or X then I cant identify the play for all..



thanks

[GT86]

well answer me this what Pb is it in and does morton line up in the slot inside or outside?

[GT86]

ok I found it PM or hit me on ICq and i can tell you excatly what play it is and its not just one pb its in a few pbs and there's different types of plays similar to it that do the same thing

[GenTik]

You guys, can someone try Dime Flat Under Man on this play. No shifting the CB to BnR... if one WR is open out of the 3 WR then just shift the CB to better position by pressing triangle + right. let me know if this works because it should contain the WR because the outside CB is set 5 yards back. What I did yesterday online was right when he snaps the ball, I take my outside RE or LE and press triangle while running towards the WR.. I got two picks.. that's right!!! Two picks with a DE!!! LOL.

GenTik :cool:

[Try2win1]

gentik who did u play online? and whats your online name?

[GenTik]

I played Crzywtmanftn. I don't know who he is, but he was doing it ever y3rd down to get a first down. So I toughened up and picked off his ball. Then I also did ask madden and he said Dime Under Man. So I was wondering if it'll work. I changed my online name because EYE 1 has way too many disc and I can't get a winning streak going because of it... every time I'm up.. they disconnect and only I get the loss. They don't even have me on their record of playing me (I have a cable modem too)... online blows!

I'm on as VG GenTik now and I only play people from VG or my friends now. So that means I'm not on much anymore because nobody is on until late nights.

Look me up for a game if you want...

GenTik :cool:

[Try2win1]

Look for this guy.... DAWG SHADY

He is the cheese head...if u stop him and beat his cheese then we can go from there

[GenTik]

Alright, I'll try. What team does he use. I'll let everybody knows what the outcome is...

GenTik :cool:

[Try2win1]

kc morton is wide open 24-7

[GT86]

OK found the plays and here are 3 of them shotgun trips te wr corner and slot read . Slot read isn't as bad as the other one though. Also 5 wide slot flats. The defense that contains 2 of these plays on defense is Dime Flats safe. IT leaves the other routes upen but does stop the short route and will even pick it off for Td's allot of times. SO my suggestion is to mix your coverages up in dime falts formation to where the route is open and then throw dime flats safe in there and get a few td from your defense on it :) As for the 5 wide slot flats I haven't found a defense to contain it yet and it seems to be the worse of them all. There other plays similar to these in other formations like single back trips wr no Te and wr by himself on the other side and trips bunch but i'm not going to name them all and they aren't as bad as these 3 doesn't seem and can be defended easily.

[DRhoten]

Is it the running back on the right hand side closes to the QB?

[GT86]

the inisde most wr on the side that has 3 wr's

[Mamestro]

One of the problems with stopping these type of plays is that it opens you up for all types of stuff. The run, quick slants inside, etc. I played a guy last night who ran it the entire game, non-stop. I only won b/c I got the ball back in the second half. But this guy ran two plays all game. Flats left and flats right. Every one in a while he would go across the middle if i was really set up well for the flats. Very frustrating. He claimed he did it b/c I was playing with the bucs and it was the only way he could move the ball.

[GT86]

try what i said bd by mizxing up your plays in dime falts etc and then throw in that dime flats safe and watch the Td's start coming when he throws to the flat :) But yes when you use this play to stop it it does leave other things open but thats the key you have to confuse them.

[Paragon]

nickle cover 2 or dime cover 2 and flip the play to that side which he is overloading wides

every play in madden plays 1 side harder with defense then the the other whichever side has the most people linedup as a reciever incudign tightends that is where im putting my zones at doesint make sense to have 2 wides on 1 side and have all the coverage on the weak side of a pass formation you can move ya linebackers to the weak side to have a better zone also if he comes out spreading the wides on each side

so if he comes out in the formation below
you want the coverage on left side which by default if you don't switch the play at the pick play screen will have your defense defending the right side harder which doesint do you any good because all your defense will look right first after the snap no matter what instead of left allowing those quick passes to be completed 95 % of the time



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the flip play in madden is so huge against passing plays and if you pick wrong side play against the cpu in any mode higher then pro the cpu will beat you

Hope this helped a little on the importance of fliping the play