Manual Positioning

[StickSkillz]

how about a segment on what has become known as "manual positioning" of WRs/DBs to catch the ball?

i'm sure someone else around here knows what i'm talking about. this has come to my attention as 1 of the top skills the top ballers have and use. i've witnessed with my own eyes Realist (current MWS national champ) and Sandman (beloved site hero) using this method during BIG tournaments. reason for VG2 to do something about this is because it's a relatively new wave of game play that is very very effective and should be brought to the masses.


if anyone doesn't know what i'm talking about post and i'll go over it. once you do it you'll never go back. this way of catching has changed the way competitive Madden is played.

[wdtcf]

Originally posted by GenTik
Yea it has changed the style of gameplay, BUT I wouldn't post it here. As some people come onto this forum just to grab money plays or cheesy style of gameplaying. I know we are talking about the same thing, so my opinion to you is to just hit the LAB and practice it. Practice it with your team over and over again till it becomes a reaction. Other than that... don't tell anyone how to play like this because then everyone will be doing it and it's a very very hard thing to stop.

GenTik :cool:

Wow. It sounds like someone is a bit worried about other people grasping a body of knowledge that he wants kept to himself.

Sounds a bit insecure and selfish doesn't it? Since this is supposed to be a clearinghouse for the cross-fertilization of ideas.

What a pity

[wdtcf]

Originally posted by StickSkillz
how about a segment on what has become known as "manual positioning" of WRs/DBs to catch the ball?

i'm sure someone else around here knows what i'm talking about. this has come to my attention as 1 of the top skills the top ballers have and use. i've witnessed with my own eyes Realist (current MWS national champ) and Sandman (beloved site hero) using this method during BIG tournaments. reason for VG2 to do something about this is because it's a relatively new wave of game play that is very very effective and should be brought to the masses.


if anyone doesn't know what i'm talking about post and i'll go over it. once you do it you'll never go back. this way of catching has changed the way competitive Madden is played.

Please post the information you referred to in the above post.

Thanks in advance.

online username: QB STALKER

[madden=dabest]

im good at positioning my players in position to catch the ball.....i beat this guy by lobbing it to burress every play......scored 70points.....in 4ppl coverage to single coverage i leap up and catch the ball

[wdtcf]

Originally posted by GenTik
Don't post this move here. It's not called for and it's not a skill that needs to be practiced. It almost cheese to me. I wouldn't post it here because I think it's a gay move and that nobody should use it because it kills the fun of the game. if everyone did this move then what's the point of playing madden. The score probably would be like 100-107. That's so stooge to play a cheesy boring game.

If I was you, I delete this thread already because this move is just plain out cheese and I'm not gonna explain it because I don't think it should be used. It's cheese.. do you play cheesy WDTCF?? If you do, then maybe you should look for the Madden Cheese forum for losers.

Thanks in advance,
GenTik :cool:

No, for your information, I do not play cheese. I do however like to get busy and try new and creative things with the employment of personnel and such.

When the gentleman made the comment that he has seen this technique employed at tournaments by top ranked players how could I not be interested? I have been accused by on-line players of being cheesy because I didn't not take control of the wide-receiver after the quarterback released the ball.

So, tell me, who defines what is cheesy and what isn't? Besides who said you had the power to decide what's right and what's wrong? So.....since YOU have discovered/learned about some specific technique and YOU have decided, for the rest of us mind you, that it would do great harm to the "masses" if this bit of information got out.

Sort of like a Superpower country telling a third world nation that it is prohibited from owning Weapons of Mass Destruction because its own interests would be threatened meanwhile bakc at the ranch they nukes stacked to the heavens.

Check my record, My online username is QB STALKER. I have my share of losses, mind you. But I am always interested in picking up a tip or two.

As my former architecture professor once said.....Good Architects borrow..........Great architects STEAL!

Peace. By the way what's your online username? Maybe we can play tonight so you can see for yourself if I am a cheeser.

[Temo]

gentik ... what in the world are you are you talking about?

[gdawg]

Its all fair...post this here. By keeping it away all you do is keep those in the know eligible to win the madden challenge and those that dont will flounder. If you know what this move entails...its only fair to share it. It will make for a fairer system.

Tell us about this manual positioning....

G-dawg

[GenTik]

See, what I'm saying. Look guys.. look at al lthese new members. Where are they coming from.. they just pop on and off from nowhere. they only come to the site to steal tricks and plays. Do they ever contribute? Do they ever tell us of any plays. I'm here to learn how to stop money plays.. not to create any money plays. I like to run the ball... play the game like the NFL. I know that you can't catch theball in the NFL if 4 defenders are on your ***. there is no way.. even TO can't do it. So guys.. just drop it because I'm sorry, but I ain't sharing my cake. Let me say it for you... I'm GREEDY. :rolleyes:

GenTik :cool:

[gdawg]

I have been online here at the board recently, I just found out about this message board after purchasing the VG playbook...had i known i would have contributed to the discussion. I am a new player..just got madden 2004 and i just want to learn.

What is the harm of learning? I dont cheese. I run a str8 game and go striaght top the lab to practice...

I usually play my bro and i like to spring new plays..so what the f? is the harm?

Just because you choose not to share...and are greedy doesnt make it right to not share...

if i come across any money plays i would post to help everyone out...

G-dawg..(non greedy player)

[KillerCoop]

This sounds like something great for the filmroom any thoughts on that?

[gdawg]

Please Gen-tik would rather swallow another member than allow this to be in the film room....

its fair to share..

Gdawg

[RicoVacilon]

Originally posted by GenTik
See, what I'm saying. Look guys.. look at al lthese new members. Where are they coming from.. they just pop on and off from nowhere. they only come to the site to steal tricks and plays.

Damn, dude. You sound kinda paranoid. Besides, the people just stealing ideas. . . . you think they actually REGISTER? Heck no. They're lurkers. nothing wrong with that. If you got game why do you care what information comes out?

I say share it unless it's a cheat. And manual catching is no cheat.

[wdtcf]

Originally posted by GenTik
See, what I'm saying. Look guys.. look at al lthese new members. Where are they coming from.. they just pop on and off from nowhere. they only come to the site to steal tricks and plays. Do they ever contribute? Do they ever tell us of any plays. I'm here to learn how to stop money plays.. not to create any money plays. I like to run the ball... play the game like the NFL. I know that you can't catch theball in the NFL if 4 defenders are on your ***. there is no way.. even TO can't do it. So guys.. just drop it because I'm sorry, but I ain't sharing my cake. Let me say it for you... I'm GREEDY. :rolleyes:

GenTik :cool:

Got to hand it to you GenTik, at least you keep it real son. I don't like it when people front like they're something they're not, so my hat's off to you.

Now that that's out of the way let me say a kind word or two ab0out folks who talk out of both sides of their mouth, namely you brah.

Click on my username and check out my past posts. Yeah, I'm new to this message board. But I came to the message board because I ordered the VG Madden 2004 playbook and to this day I still can't download the damn thing. But anyway, click on my username and check out my previous posts. You will find that I am MORE than than willing to share what it is I know and what it is I do on the game.

I'm not saying I know more that the typical Madden player but I can bring it with the best of them. I learn way more from loses than I do from wins.

What you are is more than GREEDY son. You're also INSECURE.....

Believe that.

And even if the gentleman agrres not to share the info regarding manual positioning, I've got a old saying from graduate school, RTFM, i.e., Read the Fu*king manual, or in this case, get on the sticks and start experimenting.

[GenTik]

Aight...

My apologies guys. It was wrong of me to jump on anyones back. My bad, G-Dawg. But I'm really truely sorry. It's a trademark for the top online players. I promised not to tell anyone and I know I'm going to get in trouble for saying that I know. But I guess you just have to get ranked and play someone ranked high to find out. I'm absolutely sorry for reacting the way I did. And I'm even more sorry for not being able to tell you guys. but I know you guys will find out sooner than later... just not by me.

GenTik :cool:

[gdawg]

I think its sad that the top online ballers have to keep secrets...i mean that is insecure that they have to rely to making a promise so that they stay on top...

but i guess when your ranking isthe only thing you have in life, you protect it jealously...

gdawg
str8 baller

[StickSkillz]

ok here it is~~~>

lab this. use this. do not over use this.

we all know about the new catch animations on the game, correct? where the guys do some fantastic jumps to grab the ball.

ok...well, instead of taking control of the WR/DB to catch the ball. you instead take control of that player then the split second b4 the ball gets to your WR/DB...ok...here it is...instead of hitting the triangle button to catch the ball...you simply hit x again and switch off...thus leaving the CPU to catch the ball. The key to this is positioning. You have to switch to the WR/DB and move him to the spot where you think he as the best chance to go up and catch the ball. You can use speed burst to get to the ball then even switch off. The position is always different on different passes and is used mostly on deep balls. This is a very effective way of playing the game. So instead of hitting triangle to manually catch...you hit X to switch off the player and the CPU will make a killer grab for you...as soon as the guy catches the ball you will again be in control and off to the races.

*note: i generally only use this on offense on passes of 10 yards or more and i don't use it on D that much at all. I always try to make the grab on D; however, i have seen Realist and Sandman use it on D. maybe it's me but i'm more effective on D without it and i love it on O. Its not cheese, it's just a new way of game play. It takes skill because of the positioning aspect of where to get your WR/DB and switch off.

anymore questions about this i'll be happy to answer.


another thing, it's sad to see guys hiding things from other guys. it's not what you do guys but how you do it. we are all Madden brothers here looking to improve the game, with all the cheats VG put out last year for Madden i didn't see why this topic would be a big deal. VG has the chance to reach more people online than i do. And since this tactic is not a cheat only a new way of game play what's the big deal?

[wdtcf]

Originally posted by gdawg
I think its sad that the top online ballers have to keep secrets...i mean that is insecure that they have to rely to making a promise so that they stay on top...

but i guess when your ranking isthe only thing you have in life, you protect it jealously...

gdawg
str8 baller

Gen Tik's behavior is an example of insecurity of the highest magnitude! ROTFLMFAO!!!!!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

"Hey guys, I'm really sorry, but you still won't hear it from me....blah, blah, blah"

Whatever son. Gen Tik, go back to your rock....and get underneath it. You are mentally weak. You don't have skills, you have hang-ups. Change your user name......The "Gen Tik" has considerable credibility on this message board.

Your act of contrition falls WAAAAAAYYYYY short son. First you whine like a child then you get even more petulant by trying to influence another poster from sharing information.

Besides, who are we to complain....GEN TIK IS KING AND MASTER OF EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!

BOW DOWN IN AN ACT OF WORSHIP TO THE MIGHTY GEN TIK!!!!!


You da man, brah.

QB STALKER

[gdawg]

Sharing is great on this medium!

I think the madden vg brotherhood is great because then we can lab this out and it can help us all..

Gdawg.

Gen-Tik i i respect your prior articles..very insightful..

[GenTik]

Dude give it up. Stop crying and pissing in your pants. "I want know it.. please.. please.. please tell me. You suck gentik. You suck.. you're insecure." LOL. Dude, you cry and talk out of your a$$ too much.

And plus, I knew someone would tell you guys anyways. And even if they tell you.. you still won't know how to do it right. So stop crying and talk with your game.. not with your a$$.

I'll challenge you tonight QB Stalker... and then I'll post it to everyone about how badly I beat you. Oh, "take it easy, brah"

GenTik :cool:

[JaPerry]

Chill out guys. Whenever I do try it, it never works. Guess I need to spend more time in the lab.

[StickSkillz]

anyone who wants to beat up on someone playing Madden by using tactics the other player doesn't know is sad! (.) plain and simple. look in the mirror.

learn some ETHICS. MORALS. and don't tell me it's a game either because if you take it very seriously it's life and you're f-ing up your life pal.


i'm glad i could be of help to the people who have never used this. i know alot about the game and would be more than willing to help anyone with any problem they are having with Madden. i'll cover anything, need anymore help just hollar.

[LiveByTheD]

stick skills are you MWS? perhaps hailing from the NYC aera too? i was j/w because your name rings a bell about another madden baller who has superb stick skills

[GenTik]

Japerrry is right. the stick thing doens't work all the time. heck I tried it on him and I couldn't get it down. I even lost the game to him. LOL. You guys got all worked up for nothing. Watch you do it all day long and then watch your whole gameplan revolve around it. You'll see that it's no good for you. I did it over and over again. I killed my record because of it. heck I'm not even ranked anymore. Trust me, if you know what's good for you.. don't let your gameplan revolve around this trick. it'll ruin your style of play. LOL.

GenTik :cool:

[StickSkillz]

no I'm not from the NYC area. I have played in MWS tournaments and have seen all the best ballers play. I'm not trying to steal anyone's name.

[wdtcf]

Originally posted by GenTik
Dude give it up. Stop crying and pissing in your pants. "I want know it.. please.. please.. please tell me. You suck gentik. You suck.. you're insecure." LOL. Dude, you cry and talk out of your a$$ too much.

And plus, I knew someone would tell you guys anyways. And even if they tell you.. you still won't know how to do it right. So stop crying and talk with your game.. not with your a$$.

I'll challenge you tonight QB Stalker... and then I'll post it to everyone about how badly I beat you. Oh, "take it easy, brah"

GenTik

GenTik :cool:


Gen Tik, I must say, when you were growing up you must have been a handful because it seems you llike confusion. But whatever, Since you would like to pound the rock against little ol' me, I'll be an adult about it and I will take my shellacking like a man.

I couldn't possibly beat a massive G Madden Bawler, er, I mean, Baller like yourself.

I'll just resign myself to absorbing the wicked punishment that you are sure to dish out on a scrub like myself.

So, please, my username is "QB STALKER", by the way, I never got yours brah.

I'd like to know the name of the player that will give me the Madden2004 Smackdown.

And as the Force MC's once said....."Please...be gentle"

[Jquest]

Clicking on/off the player is nothing new that's been done since the PS1 days, however is still takes some level of hand eye coordination and reading the field offense/defense for it to work.

Not any Joe Schmo can pick up the sticks and all of a sudden start kicking everyone's a.s.s using this technique

[icekube]

I tried that 20 times using the guiding the reciever to the local, and 20 times without guiding him, and just let the computer make a play for the ball, and the results were vary similar. I had one more catch, and one more INT with guiding the reciever.

Maybe I'm not very good at it which could very well be the case, but I don't see it as that much as an advantage.

[ShockFactor]

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AGAIN!!!!!!!!!! LMAO.. was that the secret? If that was the secret then there are a bunch of newbies on here..

1) that is no secret

2) THe manual catcher is more of a threat

3) Trix are for kids..

[BigB]

I know what your talking about and when in the hands of a player with mad stick skills it's a killer. As for the comments in here it's time to close it down. This is a site where we share info to better ourselves as a whole in here. I hate people going back and fourth over stuff that get personal after a while.

[top 100 balla]

stick skillz,

you gotta a private message...

and i will post a question here about this play...

What do you adjust your pass lead sensitivity to, which direction do you push the analog when throwing the pass?



r=thanks

[lastmax]

Stick,

I have same question what is your adjust on pass lead set to.
The sensitivity set at.

Also what are your fav plays on offense. I play this chap
who is killing me defensively with Eagles. I'm running
with Titans. How to you use these play's (fav)

he loves running out of 4-3 and nickle.

Thanks for all you guys help :)

[top 100 balla]

now i have a more important question to ask the communit, how in the hell do you stop this play, cause i just ran the play for an hour in practice mode all madden, against the phins and completed a pretty high percentage...

any1 have a clue?

[lastmax]

Top,

What play might that be.


And could you pleae reply to our questions ;)

[StickSkillz]

this needs bumped back up to the top...for all eyes to see.

[Equalizer]

GenTik.. though I appreciate the help you give to so many on this borad...

you are full of crap on this - it is a way of positioning and catching the ball... and you can't say???....lol get real.... If you do know it is something that should be shared, my bet.. you have no clue...

[joetoronto]

what am i missing?

manuelly moving the reciever is some big secret? if you dont move him on certain throws, its a pick or an incompletion.

its not hard to do, just a matter of practicing.

is their something else i'm not thinking about?