View Full Version : Training camp drills
DraftMaster
09-12-2005, 11:35 PM
you guys got any tricks i kinda suck
i get 7 EVERy time on chase and tackle but the others i suck REAL bad at
the dline one is like 50/50 i will get 4 or zero cuss lvl 2 is easier if ur using a quick guys buts 3 and 4 are hard for me
all the others i can only get 3 from the first lvl
Evernight
09-12-2005, 11:58 PM
The camps difficulty depends on who you use for the drill. If you want to progress a guy thats not as good in that area, only go for pro-all pro.
For both the catching drill and the pass defending drill, you want a fairly fast guy that has decent catching ability if you plan to go beyond pro or all pro. The best strategy to use for both are to always keep moving. If they throw one to the farthest "guy" always catch it and then start running towards the middle of the field so you can be closest to all of them to go for the next one.
Rush attack depends on the type of back you have. If you have a slower bigger back use the truck stick. If you have a smaller faster back make people miss.
For both kicking and punting drills it really depends on your kicker/punters kick power and accuracy. For kicking I recommend pointing the kick almost as low as you can get it so it will go through faster and you can get on to the next kick faster. Practice with your guy and see what you need to get your power and accuracy meters at in order for it to go through the uprights.
For trench battle if you don't have a faster linemen don't even bother trying to go past pro, it just isn't going to happen (unless your insanely good). Learn how many guys are at each "checkpoint" and when there's only one guy I usually try to run around him and 2 guys I try to run between them etc. Picking up small tricks like this helps.
For pocket presence remember you don't have to actually lock on to the guy to throw the ball. Just push the receivers button and don't worry about the cone. Learn to watch the pocket and your receivers at the same time and it will start getting easier for you.
Precision passing is another area that largely depends on your quarterback. Practice each level and learn where is best for you to be positioned in order for you to complete the pass most effectively. Try it from different angles, with different throw strengths and use your precision passing.
Chase and tackle has always been easiest for me. The only challenging part is when you start having to deal with the fullback. Usually trying to get around the fullback or having your linebacker run into the fullback and having him get blocked and then switching to your safety works best for me. This gives you a 1 on 1 with the hb.
CutThatMeat
10-04-2005, 06:40 PM
Turn off the cone for both QB drills...just don't forget to turn it back on again for the actual games
Clumzie
10-04-2005, 06:55 PM
Chase and tackle easy 7.
Catch you can use a TE and still get 7. Don't reallt need a fast player.
Punting is very easy to get 7. I just kick the ball high instead of low but I punt a lot so i get use to it.
Dline is just run around them seems to work for me!
QBacking i am very suck.
Pandemonium72
10-04-2005, 07:41 PM
Chase and Tackle and Rushing Attack are easy 7's for me. Clutch Kicking is an easy 5 (or 7 if I have a great kicker). Coffin Corner Punt is an easy 5, I don't even try All-Madden with that. The rest I'm lucky to get 2-3 on.
realhawker
10-04-2005, 08:59 PM
QBacking i am very suck.
my new sig.... :p
TennesseeVols#1
10-04-2005, 10:16 PM
The camps difficulty depends on who you use for the drill. If you want to progress a guy thats not as good in that area, only go for pro-all pro.
For both the catching drill and the pass defending drill, you want a fairly fast guy that has decent catching ability if you plan to go beyond pro or all pro. The best strategy to use for both are to always keep moving. If they throw one to the farthest "guy" always catch it and then start running towards the middle of the field so you can be closest to all of them to go for the next one.
Rush attack depends on the type of back you have. If you have a slower bigger back use the truck stick. If you have a smaller faster back make people miss.
For both kicking and punting drills it really depends on your kicker/punters kick power and accuracy. For kicking I recommend pointing the kick almost as low as you can get it so it will go through faster and you can get on to the next kick faster. Practice with your guy and see what you need to get your power and accuracy meters at in order for it to go through the uprights.
For trench battle if you don't have a faster linemen don't even bother trying to go past pro, it just isn't going to happen (unless your insanely good). Learn how many guys are at each "checkpoint" and when there's only one guy I usually try to run around him and 2 guys I try to run between them etc. Picking up small tricks like this helps.
For pocket presence remember you don't have to actually lock on to the guy to throw the ball. Just push the receivers button and don't worry about the cone. Learn to watch the pocket and your receivers at the same time and it will start getting easier for you.
Precision passing is another area that largely depends on your quarterback. Practice each level and learn where is best for you to be positioned in order for you to complete the pass most effectively. Try it from different angles, with different throw strengths and use your precision passing.
Chase and tackle has always been easiest for me. The only challenging part is when you start having to deal with the fullback. Usually trying to get around the fullback or having your linebacker run into the fullback and having him get blocked and then switching to your safety works best for me. This gives you a 1 on 1 with the hb.
Good info man. U basically answered my question on the receiver's drill, cause it seemed damn near impossible to get from the "far man" back to the closer ones in time to catch the next pass, but what u said makes it sound easy, so im gonna try it. so i dont have to make a thread about it, thanks again.
DraftMaster
10-04-2005, 10:23 PM
well i got better
lb drill = automatic 7
catch and db drill i am getting 7 too i just use fast guys
kicking about 5-7
punting i suck
qb i get 3 or 4
dl is still hit or miss for me
GaryGuanine
10-04-2005, 11:33 PM
If anyone has tips for the DLine one, I'd love to hear them. I get 7 on Chase & Tackle, DB Swat, and WR Catch. I get 5 on RB Ground Attack (7 is just too much for me), around 4 for the QB drills (though I imagine that I could just "figure out" how to get 7 on Precision Passing everytime), and something meaningless on the kicking ones.
But for the DLine one, I don't feel confident in my abilities to regularly get any more than three points. I've gotten 7 in the out-of-franchise drills, but I'm far, far, far from consistent. I feel if you're gambling with your d-lineman, you've got to be pretty confident. I'm not.
Gary
killacs
10-05-2005, 11:36 AM
i can get 7 on every drill now ive ran them so many times. the dline one is by far the most inconsistent one. ive found the guy your running HAS to have at least 75 speed 80 str and 80 accel otherwise your getting jacked up. if your oline has low awareness you can go around them and they wont look at you, however, if their awareness is high dont try that just try to go right through them. the next most incosistent drill is the qb stand in pocket bull****, its usually either hit or miss much like the dline drill, although i think ive found away to get good at that drill itll take a couple more run throughs but i might have it. as for other drills, the percesion passing drill how many pts you get is based on your qbs accuracy and power, if they are 89/89 you should be able to put in a lot of effort and get 7. also on the dline drill if you try allpro and pass it go on to all madden, all madden is honestly easier, you dont start out with that bull**** 2 on 1
MadCityPack
10-05-2005, 12:44 PM
on the d-line drill I am somewhat hit or miss too but here's what works for me
I will run up to a guy using circle and just before contact I hit strafe and side step him then accelerate to the flag. I only do this when there are multiple blockers becuase generally you can bull rush one guy. also make sure you sidestep before contact as we all know that you get put on your butt a little to easily in this drill, good luck
vglegs
10-05-2005, 01:40 PM
One issue with certain drills is that they use your own team as the competition. Unfortunately when you focus your team on having beasts at Oline, FB and linebackers/safeties, I end up having to face my own monsters too much.
Perhaps they should have a practise squad that you face instead...
D3STRO
10-05-2005, 02:18 PM
On the recievers drill ... don't dive for any balls because then you are surely goin to miss the next one also ...
and for both the WR and DB drill ... start movin your guy back to the center immediately after catching it
Larry MoCurly
10-05-2005, 04:20 PM
I wonder if you change your backups to starters on the depth chart before training camp starts, if you will face these backups (the new starters) in the drills? Has anyone tried this?
vglegs
10-05-2005, 04:26 PM
I wonder if you change your backups to starters on the depth chart before training camp starts, if you will face these backups (the new starters) in the drills? Has anyone tried this?
I am quite certain that I have tried that in the past and it didn't do any good. Might be worth trying again to be sure, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't work.
Would be nice though, eh? I'd keep a hold of a few 50 overalls to put in for training camp :)
Boomer05
10-05-2005, 04:44 PM
I wonder if you change your backups to starters on the depth chart before training camp starts, if you will face these backups (the new starters) in the drills? Has anyone tried this?
It seems to me that this topic came up last year. If I remember right, changing your depth chart (that is, making your backups into starters) doesn't work. But what does work is actually change positions. Change the players you should be facing to some other position and change someone else to the vacant position (someone who has no business playing there).
(I cringe when I post things like this because I know some "Cheese Nazi" is going to gripe about using exploits and all that. So no, I've never actually done this . . . but if it would piss you off, I'd be willing to give it a try :p ).
vglegs
10-05-2005, 04:47 PM
It seems to me that this topic came up last year. If I remember right, changing your depth chart (that is, making your backups into starters) doesn't work. But what does work is actually change positions. Change the players you should be facing to some other position and change someone else to the vacant position (someone who has no business playing there).
Curse you platform players who actually CAN switch a player's position :P For the love of all that is holy will EA please put this in the PC version? As a computer programmer, I can assure you all that there is no good reason why it is not in there...
Dumb Daddy
10-05-2005, 05:20 PM
One issue with certain drills is that they use your own team as the competition. Unfortunately when you focus your team on having beasts at Oline, FB and linebackers/safeties, I end up having to face my own monsters too much....
I am having this problem on two drills. I can do ok on ground attach until there are 4 defenders. My defensive team speed kills me even though I'm using really good HB's for the drill.
The other drill that kicks my butt is Trench Fight. My O-line is too good. Even my 2nd stringers are good. The other day Tommie Harris got knocked on his butt three consecutive times by the same guy before getting past him.
I suck at the WR drill. That one is on me.
bucfanstamp
12-13-2005, 05:03 PM
on ground attack it is all about being PATIENT...stand back and let your FB at least engage the first LB, if he downs him then wait a lil longer for him to engage or down another defensive player. if he knocks two down, dont wait for a third because the first one is getting up by now...dash to the side which the two safeties are farthest from reaching first, and if the first safety is close enough he will get stuck in the dummies. the second one is now easily out run as well as the other 2 LBs that got up.
if it is a sweep just try to run out of bounds to stop the clock unless you are good at shakin people. running out of bounds will always stop the clock so if you are going to be tackled for sure, its always better to run out than be tackled. it saved 3 seconds on the clock every time...this really adds up.
theanalogkid
12-13-2005, 05:53 PM
Ground attacks easy if you get lucky with the routes, I'm better running between the blockers on the rightside than the left and I can't run on the outside very well. On AM if you are running between the blockers to the right, wait for your FB to block the first guy, this usually blocks another guy leaving you to be able to run to the right, hit stick the SS and run it in. This camp was the biggest pain until they introduced the hit stick.
bucfanstamp
12-13-2005, 06:06 PM
This camp was the biggest pain until they introduced the hit stick.
agreed. on 05 a friend and I stayed up til 5 playing. 2 of those hours was switching back and forth trying to complete this camp.
i don't know whether to laugh about that or feel stupid...probably both
Raider
12-13-2005, 06:09 PM
For all of you having troubles with the dline drill, after you get by the first flag just truck stick everyone...basically it's like i never even ran into the guy so I can get gold by 2 sec or more almost everytime
and yes you can truck stick them
bucfanstamp
12-13-2005, 06:11 PM
i am very suck.
i wouldn't spread that around buddy...
bucfanstamp
12-13-2005, 06:12 PM
explain more how to do this. when you engage, before you get there, what?
Raider
12-13-2005, 06:15 PM
you have time it right, and its before you get them...if you time it early your guy will down which is very funny actually or if you time it late, you will just engage him and have to swim or rip
bucfanstamp
12-13-2005, 06:24 PM
i'm gonna have to try this...it would be cheap against a human opponent or in an actual game but my O-line is hurtin foreal
Raider
12-13-2005, 06:36 PM
well i have yet to try it with an O-line player...normally i just boost my D line so the O-line may or may not be useful at it.
bucfanstamp
12-13-2005, 06:39 PM
i'll try it with a D player first and get good at it then try it with an offensive lineman. you CAN hitstick someone with an O-lineman if you throw a pick, because i've done it before so maybe it will work.
btw that hitstick by the O-lineman gave me the ball back and hurt the DB i made fumble...
Raider
12-13-2005, 07:21 PM
I thought you just said your offensive hurt him...so how does that fit in with my defense breaks necks?
and i just tried it with an O-line man...it works only not aswell the faster the lineman the better
Mitchell overall 89
rookie - 7.23 silver
pro - 12.28 bronze
all pro - owned at the 3 man spot
bucfanstamp
12-13-2005, 07:24 PM
I thought you just said your offensive hurt him...so how does that fit in with my defense breaks necks?
ok you got me on that one (edited), but i'm at work. gimme a break this time.
Raider
12-13-2005, 07:27 PM
lol ok you get your break this one time...btw what kind of job do you have where you can surf on vg all night?
killacs
12-13-2005, 07:32 PM
Pocket Presence= anything less than 7 is depressing
Chase and Tackle= 7
Swat Ball= 7
Kicker= 5-7
Punter= 5-7
Percision Passing= 4-7 depeding on the qbs awarness if moral awr is 99 and the qb has bad pwr/acc he can even get 4
Running Back= 5 rarely 7. note here first year if you have urlacher you should get 7 because he wont be in the drill
Catch Ball= 7.. ive even gotten 7 with a 81 speed tight end. look guys the secret here is to always be moving. make moving catches dont stand still for a second on slower receivers its never thrown to the same spot. same with the db drill.
trench fight= most bs of any of them. ive gotten anywhere from 0-7. if you have a strong oline its hard, ive even gotten jacked up with a crap oline
bucfanstamp
12-13-2005, 07:49 PM
lol ok you get your break this one time...btw what kind of job do you have where you can surf on vg all night?
i work at a rec. center. some days are slow, some i work my butt off. today was not the latter.
killacs
12-13-2005, 07:51 PM
i work at a rec. center. some days are slow, some i work my butt off. today was not the latter.
sounds like the people who work at the sports and activites center check in at my university. they sit there all day all they have to do is scan your card.
bucfanstamp
12-13-2005, 09:03 PM
sounds like the people who work at the sports and activites center check in at my university. they sit there all day all they have to do is scan your card.
well i do personal training and teach swim lessons also but nothing today...lovely. just givin this a go to help pay for school
tjor24
12-24-2005, 10:54 PM
whats the best way to make people miss in the rushing drill or real games? ive always been better w/ big backs and i can use truck stick a lot. but how do u get defenders to take bad angles(against cpu)? at which times are you supposed 2 stiff arm, spin, juke, and back juke?
rhythmatic
12-25-2005, 12:23 AM
whats the best way to make people miss in the rushing drill or real games? ive always been better w/ big backs and i can use truck stick a lot. but how do u get defenders to take bad angles(against cpu)? at which times are you supposed 2 stiff arm, spin, juke, and back juke?
i use the spin or juke when a defender is coming at me from the front at a moderate angle.. truck stick head on.. and stiff arm when they come from the side
as for the drills.. i usually get:
Pocket Presence: 3
Chase and Tackle: 7
Swat Ball: 7
Trench Fight: 4
Kicking: 4
Punting: 2
Catch Drill: 7
Rushing Drill: 4
Passing Drill: 1, if i'm lucky.. i'm awful at this drill
Clumzie
12-25-2005, 06:28 AM
I lil off topic..but I only do the first level for all of them.
I do that because I don't want my players to be so better than the comp.
spoutcast
12-25-2005, 12:14 PM
Pocket Presence: 3
Chase and Tackle: 7
Swat Ball: 7
Trench Fight: 4
Kicking: 4
Punting: 2
Catch Drill: 7
Rushing Drill: 4
Passing Drill: 1, if i'm lucky.. i'm awful at this drill
the rushing drill is easier in all pro than pro i would say, you can outrun the secondary easier. the passing drill is worth going to all pro if you can get bronzes in the previous 2, its just a matter of knowing when to throw it which takes time. all pro and all madden are about the same for kicking, you just have to push the arrow down in all madden because of the distance. i suck aise at punting in the camp but i'm pretty good in the game. and pocket prescences pro is about as easy as rookie.
Pocket Presence: 4
Chase and Tackle: 7
Swat Ball: 5
Trench Fight: 4
Kicking: 7
Punting: 3
Catch Drill: 5
Rushing Drill: 5
Passing Drill: 5
an average player i be, arrr
tjor24
12-25-2005, 04:32 PM
how close should the defenders b when u use a move as a runner? and whats the best way to slip by a blocker to get to the q? i suck at trench fight! i usually only get 2, maybe 3
spoutcast
12-26-2005, 08:01 AM
for me i would say its instinctual. i dont actually know a time when your 'supposed' to make a move, but most likely right before you lock up is the best time to rip to the left or right. another point someone made on this thread is that you can use the hit stick in a truck stick like fashion and make it a lot easier. i would say clear the first defender first before truck sticking.
bucfanstamp
12-27-2005, 08:13 PM
what always works for me is locking up first and holding the sprint button (A for me) until you get a little push or no movement backwards and then hit the spin/rip move.
tjor24
12-28-2005, 11:27 AM
too many times when i just try to shove a lineman, he knocks me backwards or to the ground, can u still try to shove a ineman w/ a speed rusher and b successful? maybe its my timing or something...
F2I5L
02-22-2006, 05:57 AM
I think for some drills like, Swat ball, Chase and Tackle, Catch Ball, All Madden is the easiest one for all three. for the chase and tackle if you have a some what fast guy you can just run up the middle and tackle the QB or chase down the RB. for the other two the balls come out fast but if you catch i think it is like 6 or 7 in a row you get a gold. but i like playing as a secendary person my self so i am better at those dirlls than something like the trench fights.
realhawker
02-22-2006, 09:30 AM
I can't stand the drills.... the HB and LB used to be fun but I am totally worn out on them.. I would prefer the "game situations" drills to the minicamps to gain points.
I use madden editor to give 3 points(only 3), for each "drill" at the end of the offeseason for 9 of my guys, and I try to follow what attribs are allowed to increases in the drills. I don't raise my QB's or LB's speed 3 points...
tallmike88
02-22-2006, 11:22 AM
i dont know if this has been mentioned yet but here goes...on the d-line drill in the all-pro or all madden ones they have a HB or FB at some of the flags...i go after them and when there is three o-linemen i go after the middle one because MOST of the time the other 2 will ignore you, when it is just one i either run past him or do a swim move or something like that...when it is two linemen i go after the worse one...it helps if you know your o-linemens numbers so u know which ones are worse then other...on my chise right now they are all 99 ovr so i can't really do that now...but if you have some that are worse than others you can
Pocket Presence= 3...i don't go past pro b/c i don't like this drill
Chase and Tackle= 7
Swat Ball= 3-7 depending on how much my guy needs
Trench Fight-5-7...sometimes going threw the middle doesnt work
Kicker= 3...i only do it when i have a rookie/young kicker
Punter= never do it
Percision Passing= 4-7 depends on Qbs thp and tha
Running Back= 4-5...i have gotten 7 before but i usually stop at all pro
Catch Ball= 7...i use fast guys because that is what i draft...i have done it with TEs tho...just keep moving
spoutcast
02-22-2006, 11:35 AM
ive improved my game since the last time i posted on this:
Pocket Presence= 5 - the less you move the easier it is to dosge the balls
Chase and Tackle= 7
Swat Ball= 5-7 sometimes the guys have "catch droughts"
Trench Fight= 4 i never chance it on the 5 points, its hard to come by STR points
Kicker= 7 get them to 92 PWR and 99 ACC as quick as possible
Punter= 5-7 if i do it which i only do with a new punter. 81-85 pwr and 85-100 kac gets you bullseyes everytime peoples
Precision Passing= 4-7 i wait til after a bunch of pocket prescence to do this, but accuracy is all that matters to me
Running Back= 5 i cant chance the 5 on all madden so i puss out
Catch Ball= 7 keep going to the middle. all madden is easier than the previous 2
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