Post those Madden Generated beastly rookies!!

[Brutal Attack]

I thought I'd start this thread as a place for everyone to post those freaks of nature that come out of Madden Generated draft classes. So go on and post your 360 lb tackles and your 99 speed, 99 THA, 99 THP QBs. LOL!

[realhawker]

heres my 1st guy

got him late 1st round, 80 OVR

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/8467/darnellmyers3jz.jpg


look at that height weight combo, his jump is good too, and this guy can pull them down thanks to 06's passing changes.

[evad04]

i consider this a huge value considering I picked this guy up in the 3rd round.

OLB: 88 speed, 80 strength, and 78 tackle.
Weighed 265... so I felt he would beast it up at DE. Went from a OLB @ 76 Overall to a 95 Overall. Training Camp mini games I brought his strength up 5 pts... so 88 speed, 85 strength.

[realhawker]

i consider this a huge value considering I picked this guy up in the 3rd round.

OLB: 88 speed, 80 strength, and 78 tackle.
Weighed 265... so I felt he would beast it up at DE. Went from a OLB @ 76 Overall to a 95 Overall. Training Camp mini games I brought his strength up 5 pts... so 88 speed, 85 strength.

yup looks like a beast to me. Hes gonna be a great pass rusher. Looking like terrell suggs there.

[isaiah01]

i consider this a huge value considering I picked this guy up in the 3rd round.

OLB: 88 speed, 80 strength, and 78 tackle.
Weighed 265... so I felt he would beast it up at DE. Went from a OLB @ 76 Overall to a 95 Overall. Training Camp mini games I brought his strength up 5 pts... so 88 speed, 85 strength.

Any LB with good speed and descent strength will be a 90+ DE.

I tried it on:

Terrell Suggs-98
Shawn Merriman-94
Demarcus Ware-93
Willie McGinnist-99

Just switch them to DE and their ratings boost is awesome.

This is a great strategy for fantasy drafts because you can get Merriman and Ware in later rounds.

Isaiah 01

AKA-YaQBizConfused

[realhawker]

Any LB with good speed and descent strength will be a 90+ DE.

I tried it on:

Terrell Suggs-98
Shawn Merriman-94
Demarcus Ware-93
Willie McGinnist-99

Just switch them to DE and their ratings boost is awesome.

This is a great strategy for fantasy drafts because you can get Merriman and Ware in later rounds.

Isaiah 01

AKA-YaQBizConfused


It raises their OVR, but do they play better for you during games at DE than OLB???

also, I think in RL demarcus ware is gonna be a star. Also braylon edwards while I'm on the topic.

[Dumb Daddy]

When I fantasy drafted my team, it was weak at WR. Fortunately I hit gold when I drafted after year #1.

Bruce Linde -- 6'4", 230. 99SPD, 90+ ACC, 77CTH, 95 JMP, 90+ AGI, 64 STR, 60+ RBK, low AWR. I signed him to a 7-yr rookie contract.

In the same draft I got a 6'2" 97 SPD, 99ACC WR and a 6'7" 97 SPD, 95ACC WR (who couldn't really catch but was worth a 5th round pick) and a 98 SPD, 80 BTK HB (too bad I have Tomlinson).

Actually, exceptional MGD's aren't that exceptional any more. I have had a lot of trouble getting a good QB that doesn't amplify my weaknesses. The next team that I draft will start with a top notch QB.

[isaiah01]

It raises their OVR, but do they play better for you during games at DE than OLB???

also, I think in RL demarcus ware is gonna be a star. Also braylon edwards while I'm on the topic.

It's funny you mention that...Demarcus Ware is overshadowed by Marcus Spears on the other side unless I use him myself for a speed rush or spin move.

Also, his stats aren't great in his simmed games. The great thing is that you can change his position on fly depending on the needs of your roster. Since Dallas has 3 fast LB and I use 4-3 DWare plays DE. He's also great for zone blitzes and chasing down fast QBs.

[realhawker]

When I fantasy drafted my team, it was weak at WR. Fortunately I hit gold when I drafted after year #1.

Bruce Linde -- 6'4", 230. 99SPD, 90+ ACC, 77CTH, 95 JMP, 90+ AGI, 64 STR, 60+ RBK, low AWR. I signed him to a 7-yr rookie contract.

In the same draft I got a 6'2" 97 SPD, 99ACC WR and a 6'7" 97 SPD, 95ACC WR (who couldn't really catch but was worth a 5th round pick) and a 98 SPD, 80 BTK HB (too bad I have Tomlinson).

Actually, exceptional MGD's aren't that exceptional any more. I have had a lot of trouble getting a good QB that doesn't amplify my weaknesses. The next team that I draft will start with a top notch QB.


What is better about 06' is there is just enough of those TOP TOP TOP 20 guys out there to draft to become the next peyton mannings, T.O's, Jonathan Ogdens and Julian Petersons.
in 05' you didnt have that.

[evad04]

What is better about 06' is there is just enough of those TOP TOP TOP 20 guys out there to draft to become the next peyton mannings, T.O's, Jonathan Ogdens and Julian Petersons.
in 05' you didnt have that.

Definately man. I was gung ho online... but as of recent I have come back to my roots w/ the franchise mode and been pleasantly surprised with the MGDs. There is a lot of deep talent... but not overpowering (like the NCAA imported drafts). There are so many ways to manipulate the A.I. that Madden chises have become SO easy... so you have to force rules on yourself (like with what FAs you sign... or not taking advantage of the trade A.I.).

I am rambling... but basically I like that the draft classes reflect real life, more. There are some guys that I picked up in the 5th and 6th rounds that are studs. There are some 1st round busts as well. Then there are some "Peyton Manning"s or "LT"s.

Despite the blandnesss of this years game (pretty much same as last year) I would say the MGD changes have been my favorite.

[Pat]

here's some of the stars of my texans 'chise:
Sylvester Blair- C. this guy is an 85 overall and i got him in the 3rd round, he is a stud. 88 PBK 90 RBK.
Pierre Jackson- MLB. this dude is a freak of nature. 6'2 291 Lbs!!! 79 overall. 87 speed 78 str, 69 awr, 86 tackling. this dude was a 3rd round pick too, he's gonna be as good as Urlacher.
this is just hilarious, there is a WR picked in the 1st round by the cowboys, RJ Grant. he is 5'5 163 lbs. 88 spd, 95 acc, 88 cth, 86 jmp.
the steelers drafted RBs the last 2 years and they also have ricky williams. they got some monster backs, this one is probably the best i ever seen, but he has 66 carrying, i just noticed.
Roscoe Gross. 82 ovr, 99 spd, 75 str, 61 awr, 96 acc, 69 cth, 87 btk.
the cpu does not know how to draft!!!
i wish they would have fixed that, they never pick the right positions, and they draft 1st rounders and make them ride the bench year after year. carson palmer just got benched on my chise.

[Pandemonium72]

In my QB SuperStar game, the CPU just drafted a rookie QB in the first round. Can you say retarded?

[Brutal Attack]

heres my 1st guy

got him late 1st round, 80 OVR

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/8467/darnellmyers3jz.jpg


look at that height weight combo, his jump is good too, and this guy can pull them down thanks to 06's passing changes.


That guy is tight. Like a faster Joe Jurevicious.

Hey how do you get the stats and whatnot into that .jpg. Is that from PC or something?

[Brutal Attack]

When I fantasy drafted my team, it was weak at WR. Fortunately I hit gold when I drafted after year #1.

Bruce Linde -- 6'4", 230. 99SPD, 90+ ACC, 77CTH, 95 JMP, 90+ AGI, 64 STR, 60+ RBK, low AWR. I signed him to a 7-yr rookie contract.
.

Wow, 60+ RBK? That is awesome. That guy will be superduperstar when you get his catch up.

[Larry MoCurly]

I don't mean to hi-jack this thread but I just had a "monster" draft.
I'm not sure on all the stats, so I'll post the ones I remember. I had the 32nd pick in each round.

1st round: 80 OVR QB, 6'6", 225 lbs, 94 power 84 acc. He was the fourth QB taken in the first round. He was the QB I wanted but I didn't think I had a chance to get him. He was rated as a top 10 pick.

2nd round: 80 OVR TE, 6'5", 248 lbs, 82 spd, 75cth. and he can block. I use the TE alot in my 'chise, so a good one is a must. I have never seen this before but his scouting report said, "he is so fast, he should be a WR"

3rd round: 80 OVR C, 6'3" 305, 89 rbk, 92 pbk. He was the third C taken and had the highest OVR.

I don't think I have ever pick an 80 OVR in each of the first three rounds before. I give all the credit to my scouting team. I can't wait to see these guys on the field. :D

[Brutal Attack]

Holy crap check this out:

Corey Massey 6'6" 363 lbs DT out of Miami. Still runs a 4.7 40 lol

[Nobody Special]

I got a great deal with a position switch last MGD. A projected first rounder HB fell to the third round, and he had some really good looking stats, so I took him, even though I wasn’t looking for a HB (and I got booed, of course). Turns out this HB is a stud in every way but one—he has an awful case of fumblitis, very low CAR (50-ish). This is why he fell, but I got no scouting report, so I’m the last to know. Can’t use him as an every down back and subject him to the punishing tackles of linemen and linebackers.

BUT . . .

He’s got great hands (CTH is in the low ‘80s), his SPD is 98 and his ACC and AGI are both in the lower 90s. So I convert him to WR after signing him. He immediately shoots up from a mid-70s to lower-80s OVR. He’s big (6’2”/235 lbs), strong (STR 77), has a very high break tackle and very good blocking skills for a WR. After a season, I’m a new believer in physical WRs. He runs over the secondary, whether it is after the catch or on a sweep/toss play. He’s got more pancakes than the tight end. He fumbled exactly once all season. Great unplanned pickup.

The ability to switch positions for players in one of the great features of the draft. I love being able to scout prospects who are out of position, just like real life.

[JR Lewis]

How do you change the position of a player on the PC version?

[Larry MoCurly]

It's cool that you can draft a guy, change his position, and watch his OVR go way up.
But.....
I'm not real comfortable changing a guys position. I will change my linemen from the left to right, but that's about it. I know it happen in the NFL on occasion, but mostly with linemen and linebackers. I can't recall a guy being drafted as a HB and being turned into an all-pro reciever, or any other position changes that really panned out. I know someone will come up with an example of a change or two that worked, but my point is that it just doesn't happen that often.

[Nobody Special]

It happens more than occasionally. The real life Bears have, over the last few years:

Converted a college free safety into an elite NFL middle linebacker (Urlacher).

Converted a college halfback into a starting cornerback (Azumah).

Converted a corner into a safety (McQuarters).

Converted a college/pro career middle linebacker into a starting outside linebacker (Hillenmeyer).

Converted a college linebacker into a tight end (Lyman, who until the knee blew up, was working out).

Converted a college linebacker into a nose tackle (Zorich).

Had their team lead in sacks held by an outside linebacker who got all of his sacks by lining up at left defensive end on passing downs (Colvin).

Converted an undrafted defensive lineman into an all-pro offensive tackle (James Williams).

Over the last two years, Terrance Metcalf started a game at every offensive line position except Center.

The Bears acquired some other coaches conversion jobs as free agents, recently, including:

Reuben Brown is a Pro-Bowl guard who was a left tackle his whole college career.

Desmond Clark a tight end who was a wide receiver in college.

I’m sure there are others that I’ve just not noticed, or forgotten by now. I do remember that the ’85 Bears included a key third down player, Dennis Gentry, who was a running back, nominally, but who by that point in his career, lined up exclusively at wide receiver in 3+ receiver sets. They also had this big guy who played defensive tackle, but freelanced on offense. . . .

That’s just the team I follow, and more than half of those above examples are from the current roster. That may not be representative of the whole NFL, but in the meantime, I’m perfectly comfortable with the ‘reality factor’ of changing players’ positions.

[realhawker]

That guy is tight. Like a faster Joe Jurevicious.

Hey how do you get the stats and whatnot into that .jpg. Is that from PC or something?


It's a screenshot from the PC version, which I photoshopped, The PC ver. has its faults cause many things are not done compared to the consoles. But what you can do stat reporting wise and videos/screenshots makes up for it.

That WR is CRAZY, he can hang strong over the middle, and just powers for extra yards all the time. He stiff arms linebackers with no problems. His INJ is very good too so no worries about that.

[Larry MoCurly]

It happens more than occasionally. The real life Bears have, over the last few years:

Converted a college free safety into an elite NFL middle linebacker (Urlacher).

Converted a college halfback into a starting cornerback (Azumah).

Converted a corner into a safety (McQuarters).

Converted a college/pro career middle linebacker into a starting outside linebacker (Hillenmeyer).

Converted a college linebacker into a tight end (Lyman, who until the knee blew up, was working out).

Converted a college linebacker into a nose tackle (Zorich).

Had their team lead in sacks held by an outside linebacker who got all of his sacks by lining up at left defensive end on passing downs (Colvin).

Converted an undrafted defensive lineman into an all-pro offensive tackle (James Williams).

Over the last two years, Terrance Metcalf started a game at every offensive line position except Center.

The Bears acquired some other coaches conversion jobs as free agents, recently, including:

Reuben Brown is a Pro-Bowl guard who was a left tackle his whole college career.

Desmond Clark a tight end who was a wide receiver in college.

I’m sure there are others that I’ve just not noticed, or forgotten by now. I do remember that the ’85 Bears included a key third down player, Dennis Gentry, who was a running back, nominally, but who by that point in his career, lined up exclusively at wide receiver in 3+ receiver sets. They also had this big guy who played defensive tackle, but freelanced on offense. . . .

That’s just the team I follow, and more than half of those above examples are from the current roster. That may not be representative of the whole NFL, but in the meantime, I’m perfectly comfortable with the ‘reality factor’ of changing players’ positions.

Yeah, that just the Bears, no one else does that! LOL :D You're right, I guess it does happen more than occasionally. You seem to know the Bears as well as I knew the Rams, before they left LA. Anyway... I'm going to try moving my rookie QB to the slot, and let my my old DT take a few snaps under center. I'll let you know how that works out!

[Aaight]

It happens more than occasionally. The real life Bears have, over the last few years:

Converted a college free safety into an elite NFL middle linebacker (Urlacher).

Converted a college halfback into a starting cornerback (Azumah).

Converted a corner into a safety (McQuarters).

...
And, if I'm not mistaken, he was originally a WR in San Francisco before they converted him to CB.

[Nobody Special]

Yeah, that just the Bears, no one else does that! LOL :D You're right, I guess it does happen more than occasionally. You seem to know the Bears as well as I knew the Rams, before they left LA. Anyway... I'm going to try moving my rookie QB to the slot, and let my my old DT take a few snaps under center. I'll let you know how that works out!

That’s exactly it. If anything, Madden is unrealistically restrictive in the way it limits your use of personnel. Not that I blame them for that, since I don’t expect enormous flexibility in a console game. As you can see, however, I’m more than prepared to defend my taking advantage of what flexibility exists on this front. :D

Note to Aaight: Who am I to argue with a man who has MJ in his sig file? ;)

[isaiah01]

It happens more than occasionally. The real life Bears have, over the last few years:

Converted a college free safety into an elite NFL middle linebacker (Urlacher).

Converted a college halfback into a starting cornerback (Azumah).

Converted a corner into a safety (McQuarters).

Converted a college/pro career middle linebacker into a starting outside linebacker (Hillenmeyer).

Converted a college linebacker into a tight end (Lyman, who until the knee blew up, was working out).

Converted a college linebacker into a nose tackle (Zorich).

Had their team lead in sacks held by an outside linebacker who got all of his sacks by lining up at left defensive end on passing downs (Colvin).

Converted an undrafted defensive lineman into an all-pro offensive tackle (James Williams).

Over the last two years, Terrance Metcalf started a game at every offensive line position except Center.

The Bears acquired some other coaches conversion jobs as free agents, recently, including:

Reuben Brown is a Pro-Bowl guard who was a left tackle his whole college career.

Desmond Clark a tight end who was a wide receiver in college.

I’m sure there are others that I’ve just not noticed, or forgotten by now. I do remember that the ’85 Bears included a key third down player, Dennis Gentry, who was a running back, nominally, but who by that point in his career, lined up exclusively at wide receiver in 3+ receiver sets. They also had this big guy who played defensive tackle, but freelanced on offense. . . .

That’s just the team I follow, and more than half of those above examples are from the current roster. That may not be representative of the whole NFL, but in the meantime, I’m perfectly comfortable with the ‘reality factor’ of changing players’ positions.

The ravens are good example too.
Peter Boulware-All American DE @ FSU
Terrell Suggs-All American DE @ ASU

Both have alternated between OLB and DE while with the Ravens.
Willie McGinnist is another example.

Eric Metcalf was a pro bowl WR for my HOtlanta Falcons in the mid 90's even though he had been a HB for the passed 10 years (college and PRO)

Many college LB become SS in the NFL.

[realhawker]

I think we all get the point, lets get back to posting rookies.

[isaiah01]

I think we all get the point, lets get back to posting rookies.

Chill R.W. :cool:

See what you started. LOL

Sorry we went on a tangent!

[D3STRO]

I am in the 3rd year of my franchise and I have 4 picks that have really stood out so far

First Draft Class
Yves Michel WR 6'0 192lbs
SPD 96
AWR 63
AGI 93
ACC 92
CTH 90
JMP 87

Rookie Stats
50 REC 748 YDS 14.9 AVG 5 TD *Offensive Rookie OTY*

Current Rookies
Damien Hampton LT 6'5 334
RBK 85
PBK 82
AWR 79
ACC 73
STR 94
AGI 66

Stats
86 Pancakes 7 Sacks Allowed in 10 Games

Chad Sullivan (my own little Sean Taylor)
5'10 198
TAK 73
SPD 82
ACC 84
JMP 70
CTH 74
AWR 75

41 Tackles, 7 Int's, 6 PD's, 2 FF, 3 FR 2 TD's

They aren't freaks of nature as some put it but they are ballin for me

[Brutal Attack]

I am in the 3rd year of my franchise and I have 4 picks that have really stood out so far


They aren't freaks of nature as some put it but they are ballin for me

No they aren't. My safeties have 90+ speed, 8x JMP, 8x TKL, 7x CTH, 9x ACC

[realhawker]

Chill R.W. :cool:

See what you started. LOL

Sorry we went on a tangent!

I thought that was chill..... :D

[Brutal Attack]

Ok I've got you all beat. Check this.

I drafted a CB 6'1" 185 lbs out of Miami in the 2010 draft

Stats: SPD: 93 AGI:96 ACC:97 CTH: 84 JMP: 93 TAK: 65

and here is the kicker: He's WHITE!! STOP THE PRESSES!!!


lol :D

[evad04]

I drafted a white RB one time. His name was Jerome. I laughed. Also his speed was like 84. I laughed some more.

Stereotypes are funny sometimes.

[Brutal Attack]

that is the first white CB I've ever seen in the game.

[Brutal Attack]

Check out this WR:

Oscar Hobbs out of Tennessee: 6' 10" 208 lbs

SPD: 95 STR: 62 AGI: 92 ACC: 94 CTH:74 CAR: 65 JMP: 92 BTK: 72

[realhawker]

Check out this WR:

Oscar Hobbs out of Tennessee: 6' 10" 208 lbs

SPD: 95 STR: 62 AGI: 92 ACC: 94 CTH:74 CAR: 65 JMP: 92 BTK: 72

6' 10"!!!! Hot ****. I would just throw lobs to him all game. if he was one on one. His other stats are nice too. Must be a skinny man at 208 tho.

[Brutal Attack]

6' 10"!!!! Hot ****. I would just throw lobs to him all game. if he was one on one. His other stats are nice too. Must be a skinny man at 208 tho.


Actually...this was a NCAA draft class LOL!! I forgot. It may as well be MGD though cause it's like the year 2014 or something.

[Brutal Attack]

6' 10"!!!! Hot ****. I would just throw lobs to him all game. if he was one on one. His other stats are nice too. Must be a skinny man at 208 tho.

Dude I just started playing with this guy. Holy crap. He cannot be covered. I throw it into double coverage and he just hops up over the safety and corner. Corners can't play him at all.

I don't even like seeing him on the field he is freakish.

[Coach Stag]

I have a sweet MG guy that's progressed nicely in my Eagles 'chise. He's 86 OVR (came in a 78), 95 SPD, 92 ACC, 89 CTH now in his 3rd year. He's a nice complement to TO and Reggie Brown.

PLUS- he came with a cool name (always important :D ), Byron Warrick...AND he came from my old home state college, Iowa. No way I could pass him up!

When To retires in a year or two he'll be the likely #1 guy.

[Brutal Attack]

I have a sweet MG guy that's progressed nicely in my Eagles 'chise. He's 86 OVR (came in a 78), 95 SPD, 92 ACC, 89 CTH now in his 3rd year. He's a nice complement to TO and Reggie Brown.

PLUS- he came with a cool name (always important :D ), Byron Warrick...AND he came from my old home state college, Iowa. No way I could pass him up!

When To retires in a year or two he'll be the likely #1 guy.

So, he's Peter Warricks little brother? :D

[realhawker]

has anyone seen a 99 spd 99 ACC 95+ agi guy yet????


Randy moss still get major crd from madden despite the fact that his 40 yard time cant be near 4.25 anymore.

[crisco]

The MGDs this year are overpowered imo.

I just got a wr with these stats:

99 speed, 90 agility, 90 acc, 81 ctch 78 jmp

And he's 6'6" :eek: He only has 60 awr, but whatever.

Oh, did I mention he graded out as a 6-7th rounder and I drafted him in the 6th round. :rolleyes:

The round before that I got a 6'4" wr with 84 ctch 85jmp, 70 awr, 93 speed, 86 agility, 90 acc. Guy graded out as a 4th rounder and I still got him in the 5th.

These guys should be ultra rare, and the few times they do pop up, they should be rated at least in the top 10.

[realhawker]

The MGDs this year are overpowered imo.

I just got a wr with these stats:

99 speed, 90 agility, 90 acc, 81 ctch 78 jmp

And he's 6'6" :eek: He only has 60 awr, but whatever.

Oh, did I mention he graded out as a 6-7th rounder and I drafted him in the 6th round. :rolleyes:

The round before that I got a 6'4" wr with 84 ctch 85jmp, 70 awr, 93 speed, 86 agility, 90 acc. Guy graded out as a 4th rounder and I still got him in the 5th.

These guys should be ultra rare, and the few times they do pop up, they should be rated at least in the top 10.

The problem is the CPU puts too much value into AWR and not the other unchangeable stats, such as hgt/wgt/spd, etc...

[crisco]

The problem is the CPU puts too much value into AWR and not the other unchangeable stats, such as hgt/wgt/spd, etc...

yeah, it's way better than last year where most of the MGD's were pretty much worthless, but it's a little annoying that the drafts are so unrealistic. It's not like it's that hard to come up with a decent formula to grade rookies.

[kevinballer08]

i got this guy for the 10 th pick 1 st round

Merton Curry (RB) 6'0 210lb 89 OVR , 95 SPEED, 92 ACC, 89 AGI, 97 BTK, 75 STR :D

This guy in the 6th round
Stan Jefferson (WR) 6'6' 245 74 OVR, 97 SPEED, 90 ACC, 90 AGI, 70 CTH

He is a good deep WR.

[Brutal Attack]

If you draft Ted Ginn Jr. out of Tennesee he is like 99 SPD, 99 AGi, 99 ACC, 98 JMP and stuff.

[CP]

When I was with the Jets in the eighth year of my franchise, I traded for the first pick and picked a DE SPENCER MOSS who had 89 speed and 95 strength 86 agi and 90 accelration and ran a 4.29 40 yard dash. He was an 88 overall and with training I made him a 91 overall.

[Brutal Attack]

wow that guy is a freak.

[CP]

wow that guy is a freak.

yes also I was running the jets (before I went to the texans, and now the Colts, Im in my eleventh year) I also got a Qb by the name of Cato Hood who was an 87 overall with 98 thp and 88 accuracy and a running back named Thomas bennett who was an 85 had 97 spd, 95 break tackles, 93 agility and 91 agility. The problem with Bennett was his stamina. I almost broke the rushing record with him plenty of times but he had to come out the game plenty of times due to exhaustion

[Coach Stag]

The MGDs this year are overpowered imo.

.


I disagree...look at the ACTUAL rookies in the game, Carnell Williams, Alex Smith, etc...their stats and OVR's are right in line with what the MGD creates. I think it's WAY more realistic this year.

Some guys in the first few rounds need to be studs that are READY to play. In the past the MGD's were all 5th string college walk-ons.

I pray the 360 gets it right.

I HOPE they have the rookie faces on the stat menus and everything too.

[crisco]

I disagree...look at the ACTUAL rookies in the game, Carnell Williams, Alex Smith, etc...their stats and OVR's are right in line with what the MGD creates. I think it's WAY more realistic this year.

Some guys in the first few rounds need to be studs that are READY to play. In the past the MGD's were all 5th string college walk-ons.

I pray the 360 gets it right.

I HOPE they have the rookie faces on the stat menus and everything too.

I said that it's better than last year. I'd rather them be too good than worthless. But you can't sell me that a 6'6" wr with 99 speed is going to fall to the 6th round in the NFL draft. My problem lies more with how they grade the rookies.

I do think there are a wee bit more studs in the draft(usually) than there should be, but it's close enough where that isn't much of an issue.

[GaryGuanine]

I have a question about NCAA draft classes and MGD drafts. I notice really exceptional players coming from the MGDs, namely, players with really good unchangeable stats. With the two draft classes I've done, there have been very, very few of those players. No WRs with higher than 95 SPD, no LBs with higher than 85 SPD, no safeties with higher than 89 SPD, no DEs with higher than 83 SPD, no TEs with more than 83 SPD. Ted Ginn hasn't come out yet (from Ohio State, by the way), but Devin Hester came in with only 97 SPD.

Will the exceptional NCAA-generated recruits, when they graduate, fill the ranks of the Dwight Freeneys and DeAngelo Halls? Or will the NFL never see another Randy Moss? In my NCAA Dynasty, USC has a 93 SPD TE and Texas A&M has a 95 SPD SS, both of which I'm eagerly awaiting, but will their numbers get reduced to the point where they're not that amazing anymore?

Gary

[baseballtr7]

I have a question about NCAA draft classes and MGD drafts. I notice really exceptional players coming from the MGDs, namely, players with really good unchangeable stats. With the two draft classes I've done, there have been very, very few of those players. No WRs with higher than 95 SPD, no LBs with higher than 85 SPD, no safeties with higher than 89 SPD, no DEs with higher than 83 SPD, no TEs with more than 83 SPD. Ted Ginn hasn't come out yet (from Ohio State, by the way), but Devin Hester came in with only 97 SPD.

Will the exceptional NCAA-generated recruits, when they graduate, fill the ranks of the Dwight Freeneys and DeAngelo Halls? Or will the NFL never see another Randy Moss? In my NCAA Dynasty, USC has a 93 SPD TE and Texas A&M has a 95 SPD SS, both of which I'm eagerly awaiting, but will their numbers get reduced to the point where they're not that amazing anymore?

Gary


wut r u looking for??? id take that kind of speed anyday

[JustOption]

I have a question about NCAA draft classes and MGD drafts. I notice really exceptional players coming from the MGDs, namely, players with really good unchangeable stats. With the two draft classes I've done, there have been very, very few of those players. No WRs with higher than 95 SPD, no LBs with higher than 85 SPD, no safeties with higher than 89 SPD, no DEs with higher than 83 SPD, no TEs with more than 83 SPD. Ted Ginn hasn't come out yet (from Ohio State, by the way), but Devin Hester came in with only 97 SPD.

Will the exceptional NCAA-generated recruits, when they graduate, fill the ranks of the Dwight Freeneys and DeAngelo Halls? Or will the NFL never see another Randy Moss? In my NCAA Dynasty, USC has a 93 SPD TE and Texas A&M has a 95 SPD SS, both of which I'm eagerly awaiting, but will their numbers get reduced to the point where they're not that amazing anymore?

Gary


They stay pretty amazing. I'm 3 drafts in the future using NCAA exports and Ginn has 99 for speed and acceleration and like 96 or 97 for agility. Dewayne Jarrett is amazing as well, 97 for speed and 99 for jumping on a 6'6" frame. The TE from USC, if he's not a recruit, is Fred Davis. I drafted him in the 7th round with the Packers, he's got 89 for speed and is the fastest TE in the league. He's my number 3 WR right now as well because of injuries and the fact the he's only 217 pounds and can't block for crap.

[GaryGuanine]

JustOption,

Thanks. It is Fred Davis. Does this guy exist in real life? I mean, I guess he obviously does, but in the game, he's absurd. I'm also eagerly awaiting his draft.

I didn't get Dwayne Jarrett in my draft classes yet. He stayed until he was a senior. Likewise, as I mentioned, with Ted Ginn. I'm a little disappointed with Devin Hester, though. I spent a first round pick on him, and 1, his punt returning is obviously useless; and 2, he only has 97 SPD. I mean, that's the best I've seen from non-Madden guys, but I was worried about no one ever coming out with numbers like that.

Another question: what about blocking TEs and FBs? Do the MGD rookies have good blocking stats? I noticed that the NCAA guys generally don't. Most of the good blocking FBs retired after my first season (literally, like 12 of the top FBs retired), and there is, I think, only one left with higher than 70 RBK. When Jason Dunn retires, the league will have very few good blocking TEs. Or do the NCAA rookies' RBK and PBK stats progress enough to fill those slots?

Gary

[Brutal Attack]

I've used NCAA draft classes all the way out to 2014. The imported classes do seem to lose a little in the translation. I had a hot **** LB from Tennessee (99 OVR and 8x SPD) and he didn't come out as good. I have drafted some really nice blocking FBs and TEs.

[evad04]

All right... week 5 my starting OLB goes down for the season. I go to FA and just look organize the column by speed, because that is what I am looking for in my defensive scheme. This guy pops up with 87 speed. Wow. Pretty good right? Yeah. Well his strength is 82!!! Holy crapola. He weighs 260 lbs. His agility and acceleration are all good. His tackle is 80. Holy freaking wow!! If I convert him to DE he will prolly shoot up enormously.... but my DEs are good and I need a OLB.

His one knock is that his Awr. is 55. I plan to change that quickly.

Best part is... he was a 7th round draft pick!!! He only played a year (this is in year 6 of chise)! So yeah... studly guy. 87 speed, 82 strength, serviceable tackle.... damn!

[Brutal Attack]

that was a great find. Pump his ACC and AWR and he will dominate.

[surlacher54]

Mike Bradford
5'11 223 HB

96 spd
74 str
68 awr
90 agi
99 acc
84 btk
78 carrying
70 catching
84 injury <--- =[

i got him to 1500 yds and he went out for the season so i traded his delicate *** for more draft picks in the offseason

[Brutal Attack]

Mike Bradford
5'11 223 HB

96 spd
74 str
68 awr
90 agi
99 acc
84 btk
78 carrying
70 catching
84 injury <--- =[

i got him to 1500 yds and he went out for the season so i traded his delicate *** for more draft picks in the offseason

That guy was a rookie???? What was his rating? Wow he is beastly.

[evad04]

I NEVER see a good RB with speed come out of the draft (even w/ this years MGDs).

And this brings me to a question I have: Do you guys find that the 40 times don't reflect speed accurately??? There was a receiver I picked up in the 5th round because I was low on receivers, and because HIS 40 TIME WAS 4.25 SECONDS! But you know what his speed actually was? 92. I almost **** my pants. I couldn't believe that.

And this relates to the guy I posted earlier (he had 87 speed, 81 strength, at LB and he slipped to the 7th round). There is NO WAY I missed this guy in the scouting reports... because I usually break down the LBers into speed and strength and see who has both. To have 87 speed his 40 time would need to be around 4.35-4.5. His reps would have to be like 25. I WOULDN'T MISS THIS!

So yeah... there is my rant. Anyone know what I am talking about?

[crisco]

I NEVER see a good RB with speed come out of the draft (even w/ this years MGDs).

And this brings me to a question I have: Do you guys find that the 40 times don't reflect speed accurately??? There was a receiver I picked up in the 5th round because I was low on receivers, and because HIS 40 TIME WAS 4.25 SECONDS! But you know what his speed actually was? 92. I almost **** my pants. I couldn't believe that.

And this relates to the guy I posted earlier (he had 87 speed, 81 strength, at LB and he slipped to the 7th round). There is NO WAY I missed this guy in the scouting reports... because I usually break down the LBers into speed and strength and see who has both. To have 87 speed his 40 time would need to be around 4.35-4.5. His reps would have to be like 25. I WOULDN'T MISS THIS!

So yeah... there is my rant. Anyone know what I am talking about?


Yeah, in 6 MGD drafts so far this year I haven't had a rb that approached 95 speed yet.

But as far as the pre-scouting numbers(40, cone, bench, etc), they aren't always accurate. Sometimes after you scout the player you can tell they aren't as good as the numbers say by the comments about them. Sometimes they are better too. I like that because it's more like real life. Combine numbers are a nice guide but they don't tell the whole story.

[Dumb Daddy]

I NEVER see a good RB with speed come out of the draft (even w/ this years MGDs).

And this brings me to a question I have: Do you guys find that the 40 times don't reflect speed accurately??? There was a receiver I picked up in the 5th round because I was low on receivers, and because HIS 40 TIME WAS 4.25 SECONDS! But you know what his speed actually was? 92. I almost **** my pants. I couldn't believe that.

I have seen one fast HB in ~ 5 drafts. He had 98 SPD, 90+ ACC, 80's BTK, etc. Unfortunately he is stuck behind Tomlinson on my team. I'm actually contemplating trading LT since he's slowing down (after 4 straight 2000+ yard seasons).

99SPD WR and CB's seem more uncommon than last year also, though I haven't done very many drafts yet. I'm still waiting to find good blocking FB's and TE's that aren't slow as mud.

[Coach Stag]

Browns dr5afted a 99 spd RB in year 4 of my 'chise. I picked up a 99 spd, 84 cth STUD the year before. Already had a cool name too, Bruce Buckley, and he's 6'3" , HOME RUN!

[boombag54]

with the 31st pick i took a WR Jaime Martin, he is 6'6 230, 93 Spd, 99 jump, 88 catch, 95 acc, was like an 84 ovr, now he is a 91 and dominates the deep ball.

then in 2nd rd i took QB bam gross, 6'7 235, 95 THP 88 THA, 79 Spd, thats a lot for a big man. throws a great deep ball and runs all over. 82 OVR when i picked him, hes already an 88.

i also picked a CB, Sheldon Rose, in round 5 that is only 5'10 180 but he runs a 3.97 (99 spd 99 acc 99 agi) and has decent awareness, instantly became my nickel and is an 82 after one season. not great hands, and is a bad tackler since hes so small.

in the 3rd i took a fb whose name i forget, but all his drills and interviews looked good, his draft grade was an A+, the crowd cheers when i picked him..... then i sign him and hes a 58! ew.

Finally i found a stud TE Lamar Warren on the FA wire 83 spd, 90 acc, good hands, great blocker. But as you can see I'm a Cooley guy so i'll work Warren up and trade him.

[Coach Stag]

Best part is... he was a 7th round draft pick!!! He only played a year (this is in year 6 of chise)! So yeah... studly guy. 87 speed, 82 strength, serviceable tackle.... damn!

My starting RB is in his 3rd year (backed up Westbrook for 2 seasons). He is a stud. Was a 3rd round 78 OVR guy, now has 90 SPD, 90 BTK, 99 CAR, 76 CTH, 71 STR. 90 OVR. I love him.... :)

He just blew up, got some PT over the last 2 seasons thanks to injuries to Westbrook.

[realhawker]

I think we've confimed that EA has to tone down the rookies a hair next year.

It's more fun than last year, but I see way too many beasts.

I would like to see some balancing too, that 93 spd 6'8" IS GOING in rnd 1, regardless of his aWR.

[theanalogkid]

I don't remember exactly what my HB rookie had but I think he was 6'4 274 pounds 87spd 80 btk 79 car. He put Jerome Bettis to shame, this guy could just hit stick all the way to the endzone, it was crazy.

I've had a few high speed guys but the rest of their stats weren't anything decent.

[CP]

with the 31st pick i took a WR Jaime Martin, he is 6'6 230, 93 Spd, 99 jump, 88 catch, 95 acc, was like an 84 ovr, now he is a 91 and dominates the deep ball.

then in 2nd rd i took QB bam gross, 6'7 235, 95 THP 88 THA, 79 Spd, thats a lot for a big man. throws a great deep ball and runs all over. 82 OVR when i picked him, hes already an 88.

i also picked a CB, Sheldon Rose, in round 5 that is only 5'10 180 but he runs a 3.97 (99 spd 99 acc 99 agi) and has decent awareness, instantly became my nickel and is an 82 after one season. not great hands, and is a bad tackler since hes so small.

in the 3rd i took a fb whose name i forget, but all his drills and interviews looked good, his draft grade was an A+, the crowd cheers when i picked him..... then i sign him and hes a 58! ew.

Finally i found a stud TE Lamar Warren on the FA wire 83 spd, 90 acc, good hands, great blocker. But as you can see I'm a Cooley guy so i'll work Warren up and trade him.

Thats insane a under a 4, are u sure

[Brutal Attack]

Yeah I think that may be a typo or something. Your going to have to post a screen shot of that one buddy.

[realhawker]

maybe he meant a shuttle run os 3.98?? not even deion in his best combine cam close to that.

[runningpoet05]

Dexter Lopez 6’7” 244 (76 OVR) WR
SPE 91
STR 50
AGI 82
ACC 86
CTH 81
JMP 90
BTK 68
AWR 61


Toby McDaniels 6’2” 215 (83 OVR) FS
TAK 68
SPD 88
ACC 94
JMP 84
CTH 76
AWR 63

Those are the two best guys I got in my last draft.

[Brutal Attack]

Dexter Lopez 6’7” 244 (76 OVR) WR
SPE 91
STR 50
AGI 82
ACC 86
CTH 81
JMP 90
BTK 68
AWR 61


Toby McDaniels 6’2” 215 (83 OVR) FS
TAK 68
SPD 88
ACC 94
JMP 84
CTH 76
AWR 63

Those are the two best guys I got in my last draft.

Not trying to be a jerk but those aren't really beastly. ;)

[theanalogkid]

The WR seems pretty beastly as he's 6'7".

[Brutal Attack]

Check out this WR:

Oscar Hobbs out of Tennessee: 6' 10" 208 lbs

SPD: 95 STR: 62 AGI: 92 ACC: 94 CTH:74 CAR: 65 JMP: 92 BTK: 72


:D :eek: :)

[runningpoet05]

I just said they were the best I got in the last draft never said they were beastly. But come on the WR's name is Dexter Lopez lol.

[Brutal Attack]

yeah that is pretty sweet lol.

[HitStick]

2007 darft no.1 overall pick by 49ers Anthony Schneidmiller

THP 80
THA 90
SPD 72
CAR 60
bad thing his face looked like a flattened Mike Vrabel and his hairstyle was balding.

He threw 8TDS 10INTS in rookie year 6 of those TD to Brandon Loyd.

Also beastly MLB Bobby Doleman 3rd round pick he was a steal
TACK 85
SPD 73
CTH 62
AWR 83
STR 86

[shortyfromthed7]

i got a sweet quarterback in the 1st round pick 32 he had 99thp 89accuracy 83 speed 82 awareness

[realhawker]

http://www.realhawk.2freegigs.com/pics/2007/rooks/MattDuncan.jpg
Has 61 SPD.

This guy was rated as a top 10, I got him at pick 13. 83 OVR.

Great STR and size, with very good acc and decent spd.

[realhawker]

i got a sweet quarterback in the 1st round pick 32 he had 99thp 89accuracy 83 speed 82 awareness


ummmmm. what was his OVR???? I cant see the cpu letting that high of an AWR QB get by. CPU loves high AWR/OVR Qb's

[Brutal Attack]

http://www.realhawk.2freegigs.com/pics/2007/rooks/MattDuncan.jpg
Has 61 SPD.

This guy was rated as a top 10, I got him at pick 13. 83 OVR.

Great STR and size, with very good acc and decent spd.

Very nice DT there.

[Larry MoCurly]

Since I run out of the I-formation, I'm always looking for a monster FB. I haven't seen one yet. A rookie QB with 99thp? I have never seen that.

[theanalogkid]

Elija Sapp QB - 84 ovr 73 spd 90 thp 90 71 awr 90 inj car 55
Phil Hewitt SS - 85 ovr tak 82 spd 84 acc 87 jmp 89 cth 74 awr 67
Isaac Faulk C - 81 ovr rbk 90 pbk 89 awr 73 acc 73 str 74 agi 53

that's my first 3 draft picks pretty good for myself I'd say.

[Brutal Attack]

thats a nice QB.

Too bad that SS is so slow.

[theanalogkid]

I don't see many fast S's, thought I drafted a FS who was 90 spd and the Ravens have one with 93.

[Smegz0r]

One I got a couple of days ago. Unfortunately I hit CPU Re-sign during the re-signing period and ended up with a lot of players I intended to cut signed up to long term, high bonus contracts so I had to re start a new franchise:

DT Willie King 98 STR, 92 ACC, 74 AGI, 65 SPD

[tallmike88]

i drafted a Qb with 99 Thp, 90 tha, 73 awr,84 ovr yesterday...too bad i already have a 99 ovr Qb...but he is getting old so i'll probably give the rookie some snaps

[evad04]

I don't remember if I posted this... but alas... I am recalling these stats off the top of my head:

This receiver was taken in the 2nd round. Corwin Sapp. 99 SPD, 90 ACC, 87 AGI, 92 JMP, 73 CTH, 65 STR. And the kicker? He is 6'4, 215 LBs.

Pretty re-gawdamn-diculous

[derrick_mason85]

7TH ROUND 6'7 245 :eek: w/ 96 speed, 93 acc, 92 jump, and 85 catch. Bad awareness though

[tallmike88]

i signed a free agent rookie HB the other night, he has 94 spd, 92 agility, 90 acc, 87 str :D ,92 btk and 70 carry, 230+lbs too, he is starting now, about 83 overall now, its his second year,his awr is low, not sure what it is tho

[Brutal Attack]

i signed a free agent rookie HB the other night, he has 94 spd, 92 agility, 90 acc, 87 str :D ,92 btk and 70 carry, 230+lbs too, he is starting now, about 83 overall now, its his second year,his awr is low, not sure what it is tho

dang that kid is beefy. :D

[derrick_mason85]

CB Isaiah Wheaton

5th round pick
93 SPD 87 ACC 80 CTH 75 AWR

He was a 83 OVR
Progressed like crazy under Chris McAlister, who was 32 years old in that chise. He was a 99, and he stayed one final year before retiring, and Wheaton improved to an 89. That's pretty good for a rookie.

Unfortunately I lost that chise when I accidentally saved over it... :(

[baseballtr7]

i drafted a 99spd corner.

y did u bring this thread back up?

[derrick_mason85]

Bring it back up? It was updated today.

[steelersrock]

I have this CB with 96 SPD, 80 CTH, 99 AGI, but 45 AWR, he's a 75 Ovr but if the awareness was up he'd be like an 85.

[Coach Stag]

Drafted a LE to eventually replace Kearse in the 2nd round.

Hamm is his last name (kinda funny). 87 SPD, 71 STR, 75 ACC, 67 TAK.

Hoping to progress his strength, acc, tak in a few seasons so he can replace Kearse.

[GB36]

Drafted a LE to eventually replace Kearse in the 2nd round.

Hamm is his last name (kinda funny). 87 SPD, 71 STR, 75 ACC, 67 TAK.

Hoping to progress his strength, acc, tak in a few seasons so he can replace Kearse.

Man, I look at that and all I can think is...a couple chase and tackle drills and a year on special teams to get that AWR up and I'd have a studly new OLB.

[steelersrock]

I just drafted an 85 Ovr QB. He has 97 Thp and 90 Tha. He's a total beast. I've been practicing deep lobs to Keyshawn Johnson with him and it takes like 7 seconds for the ball to come dowm from the air he throws so far.

And this thread should be made a sticky.

[steelersrock]

I drafted a 6'7" TE in the third round with a 90 SPD and 93 JMP, he's an 83 Ovr.