View Full Version : How do you stop manually controlled DE ??
Redknight
10-07-2005, 11:31 AM
I m sorry that i m lazy to search for this info
But last night, i played against guy playing philly. He manually use Kearse and sacked me every time I tried to pass. I auible my RB to block him, motion my TE, used slide protection to his side. Yet he sacked QB nearly all the time and he s unstoppable with kearse.
Is it glitch or just stick skill ??
i want to know how to stop this. Any one have any idea ?
CapnKill
10-07-2005, 11:36 AM
No glitch.
Use the "Fake Snap" button to draw him offsides or at least make him not get a good jump.
Run right at him! Dives or slams... should work great.
As far as passing goes... Just keep guys into block and watch his path of attack. Force him to run through a defender to get to you.
Redknight
10-07-2005, 11:42 AM
No glitch.
Use the "Fake Snap" button to draw him offsides or at least make him not get a good jump.
Run right at him! Dives or slams... should work great.
As far as passing goes... Just keep guys into block and watch his path of attack. Force him to run through a defender to get to you.
1. How do you do "Fake Snap"
2. He moved his DE out of position. He would move kearse all way to 1/2 of sideline then chase down my QB or RB. Indeed to true to his word, kearse is FREAK!
3. I motioned my TE to his side, he just run to opposite side, forcing me to eat up my clock by doing that.
Brick
10-07-2005, 11:51 AM
Bringing Kearse that far out on the line should open up runs to the B, and C gap on that side of the field. The fake snap suggestion also works for people that control their D lineman. On X box its the B button so on PS I would assume that its the O button. My buddy contols a D lineman all the time, and he said that the fake snap ****s up his timing, and sometimes draws him offsides.
Hostile Apostle
10-07-2005, 12:11 PM
1. How do you do "Fake Snap"
2. He moved his DE out of position. He would move kearse all way to 1/2 of sideline then chase down my QB or RB. Indeed to true to his word, kearse is FREAK!
3. I motioned my TE to his side, he just run to opposite side, forcing me to eat up my clock by doing that.
If he moves Kearse out of position then run where he used to be, there should be a huge hole. When passing... make sure to step up in the pocket... also try hitting the RB in the flats and quick slants to ur WR's.
Oh yeah... controlling the DE is definitely not stick skillz... no offense to anyone that uses the DE... but typically someone that is using a DL-men doesn't have much stick skillz because they can't cover manually so they use the a DL to make up for it.
Bearfanmike20
10-07-2005, 12:18 PM
I would audible to a run every time. HB dive to wich ever side he is on. Should work like a charm. Other wise short quick routes. Be patient.
NlKpapagiorgio
10-07-2005, 04:17 PM
If he moves Kearse out of position then run where he used to be, there should be a huge hole. When passing... make sure to step up in the pocket... also try hitting the RB in the flats and quick slants to ur WR's.
Oh yeah... controlling the DE is definitely not stick skillz... no offense to anyone that uses the DE... but typically someone that is using a DL-men doesn't have much stick skillz because they can't cover manually so they use the a DL to make up for it. actually 3 of you guys have said 'run it to the hole he vacated'....that makes great sense.....problem is it doesnt work.....ive seen the exact same thing (guys using Kearse or Freeney and pulling them halfway to the sidelines to rush twice this week)..the angle that gives them to rush in from almost tottally negates any hotrouted blockers....and whats really amazing is the fact the CPU controlled DBs and LBs almost do a BETTER job stopping the run without the DE in position...sad but true...
As to controlling a DE being no skill.....i do it a lot lately (without moving him off the line)...its to me the best and almost ONLY way of getting pressure with heavy zones...........
Bearfanmike20
10-07-2005, 04:22 PM
actually 3 of you guys have said 'run it to the hole he vacated'....that makes great sense.....problem is it doesnt work
If you run for the hole no, but if you wait for the blocker to engage and then go YES. Or run at him.
Eighty84Four
10-07-2005, 05:13 PM
1). press start
2). press up
3). press A for the box X for the ps
4). press up
5). repeat step 4
only works for online.
Bucszilla05
10-07-2005, 05:57 PM
1). press start
2). press up
3). press A for the box X for the ps
4). press up
5). repeat step 4
only works for online.
What are you saying exactly? Please define what you meant.
ccbill1
10-07-2005, 06:20 PM
1). press start
2). press up
3). press A for the box X for the ps
4). press up
5). repeat step 4
only works for online.
nice typo, smart guy.
sling
10-07-2005, 06:28 PM
1). press start
2). press up
3). press A for the box X for the ps
4). press up
5). repeat step 4
only works for online.
hes trying to make a really corny joke, lame.
ccbill1
10-07-2005, 07:26 PM
hes trying to make a really corny joke, lame.
I know; I keep repeating step 4 though, but nothing happens.
TNT713
10-08-2005, 01:46 AM
The best thing to do in this situation is to position your blocking so that they are in position to protect WIDE before the snap... In other words, change your formation.
I Form seems like it's ideal to run, but it's not... Here's why:
A fast DE can take 1 step into the backfield then flatten down the line and attack the ballcarrier as he gets to the hole from the rear. The TE and FB will be occupied with blocking at the point of attack and will ignore the DE, who seems as if he's out of the play. Basically, you have to treat a DE lined up wide as a CB rushing from the outside...
Instead, try formations that are strong on the flanks like: Splitbacks, Far, Near, Shotgun. They are generally better at picking up the outside pressure allowing your QB to step up into a well formed pocket.
Next, adjust your protections to account for where the rush is coming. If the TE isn't enough to block the rusher, set another player to provide 2 levels. Even if the first guy can't block long, the 2nd man will get a decent shot at slowing him down. Be aware of the matchup though, if you have Kearse against a HB, you can't expect him to block well. You must speed up your QB clock to get the ball away within the time your protection gives you.
Lastly, watch your drops. If the rush comes hard off the edge, give your protection some help and roll slightly to the other side. Even if you only slide a little towards the G or T on the opposite edge, it will give your protection a better angle to give you some time. Whatever you do, don't take a deep drop straight back, because the rush is designed to reach the QB at about the 7-9 yard area directly behind the center.
If you manage to create the time you need for deep routes, shorter routes should be a peice of cake.
Later
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