Cheese or not??

[Bearfanmike20]

I run my offense out of I form. I pick one play and have all of my audibles set. I look at the D find the weekness audible and or hot route accordingly and attack.

I was playing some guy offline the other day and he said I was cheating because I was using I form all the time, and because no offense calls all of it's plays at the line.

What do you guys think??...

[CapnKill]

You know it's not cheese, why you asking?

Would you really listen to us if all as said it was cheese?

[Redknight]

I run my offense out of I form. I pick one play and have all of my audibles set. I look at the D find the weekness audible and or hot route accordingly and attack.

I was playing some guy offline the other day and he said I was cheating because I was using I form all the time, and because no offense calls all of it's plays at the line.

What do you guys think??...

Nope, i do the same like you do. I use i-form then change plays at line of scrimmage. Nothing wrong with that.

[Brick]

He would hate playing against me then. I run hurry up almost exclusively. Also almost every team in the NFL audibles at the line on almost every play.

[Bearfanmike20]

You know it's not cheese, why you asking?

Because this is not the first person who has said that to me.... I was just trying to create and Offensive strategy that is complex for the defense, but simple for me. But when somebody sais you cheating you take it personally you know??...

[Hostile Apostle]

I do that same.. I have ALL of my auds set out of one formation... If I wanted too I can play the whole game out of one formation by reading the D and aud'ing to exploit the weakness. And in this years game, with all formations having formation specific auds (aud + R analog)... you can do the same thing out of pretty much any formation. I know that I have at least 4 formations that I can do that with. So, definitely not cheese... ur just reading the D and making adjustments, just like any good QB will do.

[Bearfanmike20]

Thanks guys..... Feeling much better now. :)

[Pat]

that's good football, good strategy. people just call things cheese when they can't stop it, i doubt coaches cry to the colts and call dungy and peyton cheese bc they do the same thing. you have the right to audible plays, anyone who says otherwise shouldn't be playing madden.

[evad04]

ABSOLUTELY NOT CHEESE! IN FACT THE ANTITHESIS OF CHEESE! Whew... I got the cap locks out of me now. No man... you aren't running some dorky deep lob to Moss every play or QB glitching (even though that might fall under the same school of not changing much). But in your case you are making your opponent REALLY think about what is coming next. What you are doing is giving the same look and many different results. I think that is really cool. I personally like to give many different looks.... and have many different results. Doing what you are doing will help your game... as long as you spread the ball around and such. If you are hitting up the same receiver then eventually you will get beat. But I like your style.

[Redknight]

ABSOLUTELY NOT CHEESE! IN FACT THE ANTITHESIS OF CHEESE! Whew... I got the cap locks out of me now. No man... you aren't running some dorky deep lob to Moss every play or QB glitching (even though that might fall under the same school of not changing much). But in your case you are making your opponent REALLY think about what is coming next. What you are doing is giving the same look and many different results. I think that is really cool. I personally like to give many different looks.... and have many different results. Doing what you are doing will help your game... as long as you spread the ball around and such. If you are hitting up the same receiver then eventually you will get beat. But I like your style.

What is QB glitching ??

[evad04]

What is QB glitching ??

I just referred to the QB Draw thing. And again... can people do it? Do they have a right (this is for TNT... LOL). Yes. But it isn't fun playing against those people IMO.

[Redknight]

which is worse -

1. Keep throwing to Moss , Owens, or other tall WR/TE all time in the game

2. Click on / off your WR

3. Your oppoent run out the clock entirely 2 quarters then he do it same in second half.

There s other but i can't quite think one at this moment

[Bearfanmike20]

I think running the clock is the worst. There is a differance between ball control offense and what those guys do.

[Hostile Apostle]

which is worse -

1. Keep throwing to Moss , Owens, or other tall WR/TE all time in the game

2. Click on / off your WR

3. Your oppoent run out the clock entirely 2 quarters then he do it same in second half.

There s other but i can't quite think one at this moment


Running the clock for sure... I hate that ish... I would rather deal with the other two then clock runners. At least with the other 2 you won't get bored out of your mind! :eek:

[Goodnews boy]

Running the clock for sure... I hate that ish... I would rather deal with the other two then clock runners. At least with the other 2 you won't get bored out of your mind! :eek:

I agree bro!!!! :mad:

[PlayboyMone]

I played a guy, used up the whole 1st quarter and half of the second to turn the ball over outside of Fg range, it was horrible, justw aiting for the play clock to hit 0 EVERY play. I knew that was his only style to win, so I hurried up and scored and let him run the clock down to his heart's content, that just showed me he didn't have the O to move the ball downfield and score so after I went up by 10, I just let him do himself him.

[evad04]

Yeah it is one thing to control the clock with a lead.. but you can still snap with 10 or 15 seconds left. You definately shouldn't leave it until 1 second. That is lame.

[isaiah01]

I agree bro!!!! :mad:

I don't understand why Madden Online didn't keep 5 min Qtrs as default.

[HollaReese]

I run my offense out of I form. I pick one play and have all of my audibles set. I look at the D find the weekness audible and or hot route accordingly and attack.

I was playing some guy offline the other day and he said I was cheating because I was using I form all the time, and because no offense calls all of it's plays at the line.

What do you guys think??...

its not cheese but basically you are only play with your original play then 5 audibles....6 total plays....Ijust think your play book should be more defined then that...it would equal a blow out by mid 3rd qtr if you were my opponent :cool: ....



holla


see yall on the field

[Bearfanmike20]

its not cheese but basically you are only play with your original play then 5 audibles....6 total plays....Ijust think your play book should be more defined then that...it would equal a blow out by mid 3rd qtr if you were my opponent ....

It's a little bit more involved than that. I use lots of hot routes and I attack week points in the D- line. Not as easy to def. as it sounds. Wish I had online play to show you. :(

[Bearfanmike20]

And in this years game, with all formations having formation specific auds (aud + R analog)...

Can you preset these like your normal Audibles, or are you stuck with whatever is preset in the game??

[Brick]

its not cheese but basically you are only play with your original play then 5 audibles....6 total plays....Ijust think your play book should be more defined then that...it would equal a blow out by mid 3rd qtr if you were my opponent :cool: ....



holla


see yall on the field
The way I do it is I set all of my audibles for one formation. So thats 5 plays by itself. I make sure that I don't set any of them the same as the formation audibles you have with the right thumbstick. So thats 9 right there. Plus the play I pick at the play calling screen=10. Then I have 3 formations that i can shift to times the 4 audibles for each of those formations. That gives me 22 different plays that I can run from 4 different formations, and that doesn't include all of the motioning, and hot routing that I do.

[TNT713]

Tsk, tsk, tsk...

We have yet another post where a perfectly legitimate player questions his own methods because of some PUNK's idea of cheese. It's a classic example of what people do when they have no recourse but to make their opponent doubt themselves. He want's to call his plays, and yours too? WTF?

Bearfanmike,

If we all said your offense was cheese... BE CONFIDENT ANYWAY. It's YOUR offense. In the NFL, each team runs their own, in Madden you get to run YOURS.

Don't ask permission. Don't apologize. If they put half as much energy into coaching thier team as they tried to put into coaching yours. THEY WOULDN'T BE COMPLAINING.

Later

[edeuce33]

No it is definately not cheese actually if the guy had any skills he should change his defensive audibles to ones that are more geared up to stop the I formation. I myself like to use the same formation for a whole half audible at L.O.S. than switch to a different one the second half, than once I feel I know that formation completely than I move on to a new formation and so on and so on.

[Shakedown]

Its Cheese....go Kill Yourself

[warren123]

seriosuly guys shut up about cheese this glitch that it doesnt matter, do your thing and thats it

[Brick]

Can you preset these like your normal Audibles, or are you stuck with whatever is preset in the game??
You can't preset them, but they are different for every formation. If you press down its a running play. If you press left its play action. Up is a pass, and right is another pass.

[ccbill1]

Who audibles anyway? Changing one's mind is a trait carried on the X chromosome. Suck it up and impose your will on the other team.

[bearsfan217]

I run my offense out of I form. I pick one play and have all of my audibles set. I look at the D find the weekness audible and or hot route accordingly and attack.

I was playing some guy offline the other day and he said I was cheating because I was using I form all the time, and because no offense calls all of it's plays at the line.

What do you guys think??...

well i think that is a good strategy, but i wouldnt recommend running I form alot online because of the run/pass glitch :/ Sucks to because I Form is one of my favorite sets to use

[xX SNAKE Xx]

more like he is the cheese cause he cna't play D :cool:

[Eighty84Four]

I run my offense out of I form. I pick one play and have all of my audibles set. I look at the D find the weekness audible and or hot route accordingly and attack.

I was playing some guy offline the other day and he said I was cheating because I was using I form all the time, and because no offense calls all of it's plays at the line.

What do you guys think??...
absolutly not!! all u do is readin his trash d. my words are if they cant stop it keep on doin it. fo sho

[ccbill1]

well i think that is a good strategy, but i wouldnt recommend running I form alot online because of the run/pass glitch :/ Sucks to because I Form is one of my favorite sets to use
Can we not speak of this anymore? I seriously think most people don't utilize this knowledge anymore. I totally ignore it, and if we quit speaking about it, less people will try to find out about it. Do you know how many people still come here and ask basic questions about the game, like how do i fan my Dline?

[Hostile Apostle]

Can we not speak of this anymore? I seriously think most people don't utilize this knowledge anymore. I totally ignore it, and if we quit speaking about it, less people will try to find out about it. Do you know how many people still come here and ask basic questions about the game, like how do i fan my Dline?


I don't think it's as effective as people made it out to be at first. I've been able to move the ball effectively out of I form even if the other person knew what I was doing... and the same goes for other peeps I've played that used I Form. I think that's why it's not talked about as much anymore.

[isaiah01]

I don't think it's as effective as people made it out to be at first. I've been able to move the ball effectively out of I form even if the other person knew what I was doing... and the same goes for other peeps I've played that used I Form. I think that's why it's not talked about as much anymore.

It is effective if someone coverage audibles to double team your HB. The Defense will have 2 players going straight to the ball carrier at the snap.

Someone did to me online. You can still move the ball but it sure is a lot harder.

People who use it probably play rookie level in franchise. They are lazy and can't stand a challenge!