Why are Juco's involved in recruiting?

[BigBlue22]

Why don`t they transfer in instead of having to be recruited. In real life juco transfers are gifts to programs that provide a boost. EA sports really needs to rethink their juco idea. Recruiting points should not be used to bring in juco's, and juco's should be going good schools not bad ones. Its very rare that you see a top juco go to a school like Vandy or Duke.

[VTHokie32]

Recruiting points should not be used to bring in juco's, and juco's should be going good schools not bad ones. Its very rare that you see a top juco go to a school like Vandy or Duke.

I'm not sure what you're saying here... you seem to contradict yourself. Often times, juco transfers will take about any D1 offer they get, and can play a huge role in turning around programs for coaches who are willing to take them. Bill Snyder turned K State around with the contribution of many talented juco players who were thrilled to get an offer from a D1 school in a major conference, no matter how awful K State was when Snyder took over.

[phrozzy]

There are times when some players don't qualify so the school places them in JC or they go to prep school like Hargrave Military Academy in VA which is where most of the major talents go. If he remains loyal he'll transfer back to whatever school he signed with. But some will reconsider and go to another school instead. Still, there are others who are not recruited much if at all and they go to JC. They do well and schools recruit them.
Even if the player remains loyal to his original school, schools will still try to talk to him to change his mind.

[Razorbacker]

While we might call them Juco transfers, they are still recruited just like high school players, so that's why they are 'involved' in recruiting on NCAA '06.


There are times when some players don't qualify so the school places them in JC or they go to prep school like Hargrave Military Academy in VA which is where most of the major talents go. If he remains loyal he'll transfer back to whatever school he signed with.

phrozzy,

While it might just be semantics, technically a player who goes to a prep school like Hargrave doesn't 'transfer' to a college or university. Basically prep schools like Hargrave are private high schools. Players who go there are recruited exactly like high school players and their original letters-of-intent are no longer binding.

Your point is dead-on though.

Arkansas has a couple Hargrave grads on its roster.

[BigBlue22]

I'm not sure what you're saying here... you seem to contradict yourself. Often times, juco transfers will take about any D1 offer they get, and can play a huge role in turning around programs for coaches who are willing to take them. Bill Snyder turned K State around with the contribution of many talented juco players who were thrilled to get an offer from a D1 school in a major conference, no matter how awful K State was when Snyder took over.
K State is no Duke or Vandy. Last year, everyone transfered to Uconn or some other suck school. Now I agree that there are always kids that transfer for playing time, but more often than not they go to another good school. Juco's rarely help big name schools in this game like the real thing. Some people even refused to recruit them.

[phrozzy]

Arkansas has a couple Hargrave grads on its roster.

Yeah, former Auburn players Carlos Rogers and Jay Ratliff were graduates. Amazing how many high school AA go there each year.

BigBlue, I also believe in the game JUCO's are worthless. They're not any better than the freshman and they have less years to develop. Unless, you really need to fill a hole, don't recruit them.

Most kids would go to another good school while some would just go somewhere closer to home whether it be a good or bad school or they would just go somewhere close by if home is far away. Sometimes they leave for disciplinary reasons but more often than not, it's lack of playing time. And since there's no point in transferring to a good school unless they have a need for you, the only way your gonna play is to transfer to, in terms of talent, an inferior school. For instance, ex-USC QB Rocky Hinds to UNLV and OK QB Tommy Grady to Utah. lol, oh how much Stoops would want Grady back right now.