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fahad
11-02-2005, 05:40 AM
what are the best route combonations to beat a zone, i know you can do flood at one side but what is the best routes combonation to beat a zone.
tikyle
11-02-2005, 07:24 AM
Drag routes, in routes and out routes will beat any zone if you have time.
jerseyjay14
11-02-2005, 07:39 AM
Drag routes, in routes and out routes will beat any zone if you have time.
thats not true, depending on the zone. there are several zones to design those exact routes...
check this post, i put it up a while agof or 05 but the principals are the same:
http://www.vgsportsinc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17352&highlight=sticky
A Disciple
11-02-2005, 07:57 AM
Flooding zones is always good.
The Strategist
11-02-2005, 08:49 AM
curl-post,In route-Post, Streak-n post underneath it, Streak-n-corner underneath, flat-corner route....are a few that come to mind. Is that what you meant?
Redknight
11-02-2005, 09:37 AM
Drag routes, in routes and out routes will beat any zone if you have time.
Stay away from out routes, this route led too many easy interception. Best to beat zones are post and corner.
also running ball in middle gut help, dont run to outside.
BOOBOOSD
11-02-2005, 02:04 PM
what are the best route combonations to beat a zone, i know you can do flood at one side but what is the best routes combonation to beat a zone.
Streaks n Fades, inside recievers like SlotWRs or TEs running Streaks and outside WRs running Fade routes. The Fade routes usually always opens up.
Add in:
Drags/crossing routes, deep post over the middle, corner routes, Flats (vs. safer zones like Cover4 especially), HB/FB circle or angled ( < > ) routes over the middle and you should be good to go. And playaction also.
Something Shayan told me at a tourney was these two rules.
For man you do slants, corner, post corner, curls, and quick outs
For zone you do crossing routes.
The problem with zone is that the defenders jump the closest man. If you're running crossing routes one guy clear the other out. 3 route floods work in this case. Hot read- (flat route), and two crossing routes at different depth. The Streak/fade is easy to stop by just moving your corners around. Once that's done you're stuck. (Like a flat, post, and curl. (TE- post/HB- Flat, FL- Curl.) This way no matter if it's man lock off or zone you will have one guy open at all times. You also have help with a hot read to the flat.Always have your backside work to the middle of the field when running floods. This way if the coverage flow to the overload side where your flood is you have an option on the backside. (Like the SE doing a deep post route, slant, or drag.) Deep outs when ran right can't be defended unless you have two to three players there. Take care and good luck.
Something Shayan told me at a tourney was these two rules.
For man you do slants, corner, post corner, curls, and quick outs
For zone you do crossing routes.
The problem with zone is that the defenders jump the closest man. If you're running crossing routes one guy clear the other out. 3 route floods work in this case. Hot read- (flat route), and two crossing routes at different depth. The Streak/fade is easy to stop by just moving your corners around. Once that's done you're stuck.
When you run your routes this way (ex- TE- Post corner/ HB-Flat/,and FL doing a Curl.), no matter if it's man lock off or zone you will have one guy open at all times. You also have help with a hot read to the flat. Always have your backside work to the middle of the field when running floods. This way if the coverage flow to the overload side where your flood is you have an option on the backside. (Like the SE doing a deep post route, slant, or drag.) Deep outs when ran right can't be defended unless you have two to three players there. Take care and good luck.
Broncos4life
11-02-2005, 02:54 PM
If you have a slot reciever running a post route and your outside running a streak. For some zones the slot reciever running the post route will be open because they will worry about the reciever going deep.
Hostile Apostle
11-02-2005, 03:02 PM
Any route can beat a zone... it all depends on what kind of zone they're running.
Titans 4 LIFE
11-02-2005, 03:27 PM
use compression sets to flood the zone
Bearfanmike20
11-02-2005, 03:39 PM
any route that runs through a few different zones. You hit your rec in the seams.. Works well.
Titans 4 LIFE
11-02-2005, 04:03 PM
always check the flats vs zone, alot of peeps use drop zone which has no coverage in the flats.
Aww my compression family working the scheme. Nice tips.
The In-Slant combo's lethal.
Would that be a deep-in with a slant underneath it?
sling
11-02-2005, 08:50 PM
post streak and corner will muder any zone excepte prevent and cover 4, just send ur hb to the flats then.
Would that be a deep-in with a slant underneath it?
Yessshhhhh!
Yessshhhhh!
Oooppps. 'Nuff said.
Longview Lobos
11-02-2005, 11:09 PM
post streak and corner will muder any zone excepte prevent and cover 4, just send ur hb to the flats then.
Question:
When you say Post, Streak, Corner
Do you mean SE = Post, Slot = Streak Inside WR or TE Corner?
Thanks
Eighty84Four
11-02-2005, 11:13 PM
two words.. wheel rout
SB Trips Bunch...Have the inside TE running a Corner route. The guy next to him on a out route...and the guy on the end running a drag out.
TNT713
11-03-2005, 12:45 AM
I like to run this combo out of a Singlback normal. Then motion the HB or the Flanker to the left to create a Trips look... From left to right.
WR - Out
Outter Slot - Corner
Inner Slot - Streak
If the defense isn't using 3 defenders in zones (Flat, Buzz, and Deep) on the same side of the field, one of the receivers will be open. If they do use all 3 defenders on the left to zone the sideline, there is a clear lane for the QB to run. Even if the throw is made, it's one on one coverage on the left short, intermediate, and deep.
I also like to run variations of other route combinations on this side of the field too... UNSTOPPABLE if I get time to throw & put the right touch on the ball.
Later
tikyle
11-03-2005, 08:31 AM
thats not true, depending on the zone. there are several zones to design those exact routes...
check this post, i put it up a while agof or 05 but the principals are the same:
http://www.vgsportsinc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17352&highlight=sticky
There is no zone that covers the entire field and that's what a drag route does. It goes across the entire field an even if you zone everybody across the field there will be a gap in between defenders.
Also everyone keeps saying fade route but what route on Madden is a fade? I though in madden fades and streaks were one in the same.
SB Trips Bunch...Have the inside TE running a Corner route. The guy next to him on a out route...and the guy on the end running a drag out.
Yes this play is a good one
sling
02-12-2006, 03:28 PM
My favorite route combination is the trips bunch. TE streak, WR3 on a corner, WR1 on a flat route. One of them will be open, always, unless someone is using a LB or DE to help cover.
Also out of any tight, send the slot WR on a streak the SE/FL on a fade and motion them out. They will be open. ( i kinda dont like this one though, because its kinda fake, nothing like this would ever really happen in real life).
evad04
02-12-2006, 03:43 PM
LOL... Chad you crack me up. Any other old threads you wanna dig up today??? :D
sling
02-12-2006, 03:46 PM
LOL... Chad you crack me up. Any other old threads you wanna dig up today??? :D
better than starting a new thread about topics that have been discussed a million times lol.
evad04
02-12-2006, 03:47 PM
better than starting a new thread about topics that have been discussed a million times lol.
No doubt. I am with you.
LOL... Chad you crack me up. Any other old threads you wanna dig up today??? :D
LMAO :D :D yeah i was bored and started to mess with something foreign, the SEARCH ENGINE :rolleyes:
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