View Full Version : Solution-Stopping HB Direct
JF-HAWKEYE
12-14-2005, 07:14 PM
I've figured out how to stop HB direct, line audible your dlineman to rush to the outside, the end makes the back run straight to the sideline if he doesn't get him immediately.. your pursuit will pick everything else up...
Chain Crew86
12-14-2005, 07:49 PM
If you go up against a good hb direct runner. It almost cant be stopped.They will take it left, right, up the middle you name it. And the really good cheesers cant be beat.they will throw in so much crap that when you try to stop one of their cheese plays they will hit you with something else.A collection of Cheese that cant be stopped all together.
blueweeds
12-14-2005, 08:06 PM
i do like to loop line if direct is expected same for scrambling qb but be careful cause like chain said the direct isnt always going outside
i like to call 4-2-5 zone blitz loop line spread lbs play saftey 7 yards up the middle and force the back outside where the linebackers and d line can get him...
mstaple
12-19-2005, 01:52 AM
I noticed a lot of people whine about this play. Why? When FSU had Charlie Ward and Warrick Dunn they used to run this play about 5-7 times a game and it usually worked.
ThrowTheBall
12-19-2005, 06:02 AM
I noticed a lot of people whine about this play. Why? When FSU had Charlie Ward and Warrick Dunn they used to run this play about 5-7 times a game and it usually worked.
I would contest the 5-7 times a game figure, but that's really irrelevant. The problem is the CPU AI is too weak to defend it properly and its an automatic cheap 12 yard play unless you KNOW it's coming. Simply put, it's gay.
djwill13
12-19-2005, 08:39 AM
I would contest the 5-7 times a game figure, but that's really irrelevant. The problem is the CPU AI is too weak to defend it properly and its an automatic cheap 12 yard play unless you KNOW it's coming. Simply put, it's gay.
even when you know it's coming, it's still hard to defend.
ThrowTheBall
12-19-2005, 09:52 AM
even when you know it's coming, it's still hard to defend.
Exactly. You can try and setup to stop it going to outside, but some people have it down to such a science they can turn it back in for a sizable gain. It's just gay is what it is.
getting awn
12-19-2005, 11:18 AM
They made the running game more realisitic period. If you can get big gains bcause of defensive inactivity then everything on this game is gay. Gay is a weak term any way. I just want to game to mimic good strategy. If I call the right defense. I want the opportunity to have the chance to make the ply. Throwing deep is gay... Running the hb direct is gay. Running this is gay running that is gay....
Like I said. I just want the opportunity to make plys if I call the right defense. Not have the cpu generate big plys because a plyer won't react. I like the point if a running back is quicker than a linebacker, that you do get the chance to outrun him to the point. Hopefully next year they will make it a little closer to 04, and not to 06. Fingers and toes crossed.
djwill13
12-19-2005, 12:02 PM
They made the running game more realisitic period. If you can get big gains bcause of defensive inactivity then everything on this game is gay. Gay is a weak term any way. I just want to game to mimic good strategy. If I call the right defense. I want the opportunity to have the chance to make the ply. Throwing deep is gay... Running the hb direct is gay. Running this is gay running that is gay....
Like I said. I just want the opportunity to make plys if I call the right defense. Not have the cpu generate big plys because a plyer won't react. I like the point if a running back is quicker than a linebacker, that you do get the chance to outrun him to the point. Hopefully next year they will make it a little closer to 04, and not to 06. Fingers and toes crossed.
might wanna cross your eye's on that too lol.
jville
12-19-2005, 10:58 PM
I don't think its all about the ai either. In real life people don't move like they do in this game. The way they kinda slide-turn and immediately catch the ball and get to full acceleration in the same secound. Its hard to explain.
West Texxas
12-26-2005, 08:07 PM
guys the HB Direct shut down is the Nickel Fire Green where the LBs blitz out. Make your d-Line blitz out but dont spread them. put one of your DT right in the middle and he wont get yards unless he breaks two tackles or your DT. HB direct wont work on this play
ImDonaldo
12-27-2005, 02:30 AM
Shotgun Trips Y hb direct is unstoppable, when combined with the deep lob. There are a couple defenses that can somewhat contain it, but you leave the deep lob wiiiide open.
Fluff E Bunny
12-27-2005, 09:54 AM
Shotgun Trips Y hb direct is unstoppable, when combined with the deep lob. There are a couple defenses that can somewhat contain it, but you leave the deep lob wiiiide open.
You're gonna be real popular around here.
Catch28
12-27-2005, 01:40 PM
I suppose I'll add my defense that stops this play
3-3-5 Middle Blitz, Spread DL, Slant them out
most people give up on HB direct after they get stuffed 4 plays in a row
ImDonaldo
12-27-2005, 11:01 PM
Again, that defense leaves the deep lob wide open. I don't run it, I just know it works. Aside from online, this offense won 5,000 in NY.
West Texxas
12-28-2005, 12:32 AM
look at the title of the thread
are you telling me they actually have tournies wil all the cheap $**** in the game (WR Direct, HB Pitch then throw to wide open WR, etc.)
ImDonaldo
12-28-2005, 12:59 AM
Yes, there was one 10,000 dollar tourny that was split two ways.
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