View Full Version : ZONE and MAN coverages
TitansFan12345
01-02-2006, 09:41 PM
in the pre-snap read when you figure out if its zone or man, if zone u want to throw short passes n man long yes?
xShowTymex
01-02-2006, 09:43 PM
if zone u want to throw short passes n man long yes?
uh man short passes, and then in zone go deep.
Titans 4 LIFE
01-02-2006, 09:43 PM
in the pre-snap read when you figure out if its zone or man, if zone u want to throw short passes n man long yes?
its the opposite for me. If they are playing a Cover 2 Man Defense that usually means double coverage deep. Zones usually mean single coverage deep and most zones can be beat by posts, corners, and fades deep. Man can sometimes be beat by corners and posts deep.
xShowTymex
01-02-2006, 09:44 PM
its the opposite for me. If they are playing a Cover 2 Man Defense that usually means double coverage deep. Zones usually mean single coverage deep and most zones can be beat by posts, corners, and fades deep. Man can sometimes be beat by corners and posts deep.
exactly my point.
Titans 4 LIFE
01-02-2006, 09:47 PM
exactly my point.
Lol, I showed you how I destroy zones with Matt Jones that one game. That play is mad funny, he was wide open every time.
T.J. Davis
01-02-2006, 09:56 PM
Lol, I showed you how I destroy zones with Matt Jones that one game. That play is mad funny, he was wide open every time.
LMAO, do it verus me!
Titans 4 LIFE
01-02-2006, 09:58 PM
LMAO, do it verus me!
ok, rookie level ONLY ;)
xShowTymex
01-02-2006, 10:28 PM
Lol, I showed you how I destroy zones with Matt Jones that one game. That play is mad funny, he was wide open every time.
thats the last game i ever played zone. ever since that game i played man to man on every game.
Comeback QB
01-02-2006, 10:56 PM
Vs Zone and man you want to run clearing routes to open up the area of the feild where your best players face potenetial miss matches.
The clearing route can be a posialble first read but not nesceraly does he need to be apart of the play other than a decoy.
In man to man situation a fading streak from the flanker could be the clearing route and the first read and the TE will run a flag under route as the second read. if the safteys are in high coverage then the Cornering TE will be the First option with a backside In from the SE as a second option.
You can also atack the play deep despite the high coverage, it doesnt matter realy aslong as you clear space for the receiver.
On zone Flooding a specific zone is ideal. Commonly an offense will run a deep to middle In route from one side and a High Post from the other, the middle saftey faces two men. Its one read over/under. If he plays stay at home the second read will generaly be a trailing 3rd player perhaps a HB on a high circle behind the deep in. Throwing the ball away is always also an option aswell.
T.J. Davis
01-02-2006, 11:00 PM
ok, rookie level ONLY ;)
okay, only if I let you have 7 points up ahead. :D
TitansFan12345
01-03-2006, 08:45 AM
give me some examples of clearing routes?
jerseyjay14
01-03-2006, 08:54 AM
in the pre-snap read when you figure out if its zone or man, if zone u want to throw short passes n man long yes?
1) you cant tell 100% pre snap if its man or zone, this is oen of your early post snap reads
2) man or zone has nothign to do with weather you should throw deep or short... for instance if its a cover 4 zone EVERYTHING short will be wide open. but if its a cover 2 zone nothign short will be open but the deep pass will be there.
if its man to man liek 3 man under, the deep ball wont be there.... but if its man coverage with 1 man deep or no one deep then the deep pass will be there.
jerseyjay14
01-03-2006, 08:59 AM
give me some examples of clearing routes?
if you have 2 WR's to one side of the field have the outside WR run a streak and the slot WR run an out. the WR running the streak will clear out the CB on that side, leaving the outside of the field open for the slot WR running his out route.
if you have a TE and WR to one side of the field have the TE run a streak and the WR run a short slant. the TE will run off the LB in that area clearing that space for the slant coming in behind it.
if you have a 2 WR on one side and an Hb in the backfield: have the outside WR run a streak and the slot WR run a slant, and the HB run a swing pattern. the WR will run of the CB/S and LB for the swing patter, if the CB is in flat zone wait for the Hb to turn it upfield, since the other WR have cleared outt he safety and LB he will be open
stuff like that
RicoVacilon
01-03-2006, 09:26 AM
if you have 2 WR's to one side of the field have the outside WR run a streak and the slot WR run an out. the WR running the streak will clear out the CB on that side, leaving the outside of the field open for the slot WR running his out route.
Sometimes. I've been burned on this several times if I read man really quick but it's actually zone. Easy to do if the CB on the outside WR drops back 5 yards before giving the WR a release. Then he switches over to the inside guy running the out.
I often hot route guys just to get them to clear out areas though. The technique is sound.
kts1230
01-03-2006, 09:31 AM
just cuz its zone or man doesnt mean anything. u must know what type of zone it is to be able to attack it . cover2 zone go deep. cover 3 zone go with corner and post route. cover four go to underneath routes. vs pure man coverage(no safeties to help) u go deep. vs cover 1 make the safety drift to one side than go deep on the other side.
basically, ins outs slants curls all are going to work against man. zone it depends.
jerseyjay14
01-03-2006, 10:15 AM
Sometimes. I've been burned on this several times if I read man really quick but it's actually zone. Easy to do if the CB on the outside WR drops back 5 yards before giving the WR a release. Then he switches over to the inside guy running the out.
I often hot route guys just to get them to clear out areas though. The technique is sound.
i never said it was automatic i just listed several examples of clearing out coverages. certain plays work vs certain defenses, some dont
GMONEY
01-03-2006, 05:05 PM
give me some examples of clearing routes?
Jersey Jay makes some excellent points. Two more examples are having two receivers on the same side with the outside receiver running a c route, and have the slot receiver run a streak. This play is money against both cover 2 and cover 3 zones. Another clearout I like is to have the slot receiver run a streak and the outside wr run a post underneath him. Usually works against both zone and man coverage.
The other posts about the type of zones are right on the money. Cover 3 and cover 2 leave room to attack deep imo. Cover 4 and the 3-4 drop zone force you to be patient and but leave the flats and curls open underneath. Also screens are effective against them as well. Play action seems to be effective on these d's as well provided no outside blitz is coming.
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