Oakland Raiders Playbook Discussion

[Kobra]

Feel free to post your questions, thoughts, and other stuff you want to discuss about the Oakland Raiders Playbook.

Below is the link to the sales page for more info of what's in the book.

http://www.vgsportsinc.com/oakland/

Thanks,

Kobra and Big B

[Sully]

How much motion is involved in this? because i was thinking of purchasing but my league rules prevent us from snapping the ball while a player is in motion.

[VG_Bert]

Except for the Bump-n-Run beaters, most of the motion has the receiver coming fully set before the snap.

[kts1230]

damn, i wish i could buy some of ur guides. i think they would help me out a lot. lol this is a dumb question, but will ur guides ever be downloadable for free? i guess i already know the answer is no, but it is worth a try.

[GiantNFC7]

Big B,

Awesome breakdown on your singleback scheme. It amazes me how much I already know from the Comp 201 book that I looked at some of the routes and said 'Yeah i know that one :p :p ". Great job Kobra and Big B and to everyone. Screw the late night TV before bed I have some thumbing to do with this book.

[Eighthousand]

Does this book have it or is it just diagrams.(pictures)

xbox-mxf :D
ps2-sondemon :(

Eight~Three Zeros :cool:

[Kobra]

Just screens, no videos or audio. We talked about it, but the book would of been to big to download.

Kobra

[Sully]

What type of file is the guide? i want to make sure i can read it on my mac.

[Kobra]

What type of file is the guide? i want to make sure i can read it on my mac.

You won't be able to on your Mac, it's not compatible. Sorry about that.

Kobra

[VG_Bert]

Sorry Sully, they aren't Mac compatible. I'm working on a solution for future products, but have struck out so far. I uses Macs myself so I am motivated, but the technology just isn't there yet.

[Lites Out]

what teams would you consider running this playbook with

[Kobra]

I've ran, Cowboys, Colts, Rams, Giants, Bears, Texans, Chiefs, Chargers, plus Raiders. Anyone of them you can run it with.

[blitzrique]

Macs blow.

If it were a Mac world I would say PCs blow.

[sling]

I think the playbook is best suited for teams with a good TE and and a standout WR.

[Kobra]

Yea, having really good TE helps, but it can run with most teams depending on what plays you call.

[TitansFan12345]

can i sell my compression pb and trade it out for the oakland one?
pm with answer

[BigB]

Big B,

Awesome breakdown on your singleback scheme. It amazes me how much I already know from the Comp 201 book that I looked at some of the routes and said 'Yeah i know that one :p :p ". Great job Kobra and Big B and to everyone. Screw the late night TV before bed I have some thumbing to do with this book.

Thank you very much. You're a trip about "the route" thing. LOL

[getyogameup06]

Man U Put Half My Offense In Your Singleback Scheme, Its Funny How Similar Our Schemes Were Before This Write Up, Even Then I Still Learned A Few Plays. The One Thing I Have Never Thought About Was How To Stop My Own Scheme. I See Why U Run With The Giants, The Balance And Matchup Problems Are Ridiculous With The 3 Wr Scheme. It Allow U To Attack The Defence At All Times Kinda Like Indy Offence Last Year.

[bassmutt]

i run some of the same stuff as well that was in your sb scheme.i felt smart when i saw it :p but you also gave me some more nice plays as well and kobra
i messed with the sb big wing and i form thing for about an hour last night and found some nice stuff as well those 2 parts of the book have already helped me tremendously and ive still got a ton of other stuff to look at.ive bought a few of your guys products and this is the best so far great job to you and b.

[xShowTymex]

Kobra you still running that "deep fade route" scheme on most of your plays??? i got this idea from the Minnesota Playbook and bro i have to thnk you for this.. im usin the Fade route more and more wit Oaks PB, but im not thinkin of buyin the writeup unless i go on a slump. I prolly will soon. lol. Thnks for all this. ;)

[nothasoul]

Can i use this for the xbox 360.

[CP]

Kobra you still running that "deep fade route" scheme on most of your plays??? i got this idea from the Minnesota Playbook and bro i have to thnk you for this.. im usin the Fade route more and more wit Oaks PB, but im not thinkin of buyin the writeup unless i go on a slump. I prolly will soon. lol. Thnks for all this. ;)

What is this deep fade route of which u speak

[Kobra]

Kobra you still running that "deep fade route" scheme on most of your plays??? i got this idea from the Minnesota Playbook and bro i have to thnk you for this.. im usin the Fade route more and more wit Oaks PB, but im not thinkin of buyin the writeup unless i go on a slump. I prolly will soon. lol. Thnks for all this. ;)

I still have it, but not as much as I did in Vikes playbook. With the Raiders play book I added a lot of dink and dunks to set up that deep fade route.

Kobra

[Kobra]

i run some of the same stuff as well that was in your sb scheme.i felt smart when i saw it :p but you also gave me some more nice plays as well and kobra
i messed with the sb big wing and i form thing for about an hour last night and found some nice stuff as well those 2 parts of the book have already helped me tremendously and ive still got a ton of other stuff to look at.ive bought a few of your guys products and this is the best so far great job to you and b.

The I Form to Singleback Big Wing helps with the Run/Pass Glitch. I use it when I feel like my opponent knows I am running or throwing. Once I throw it at them a few times, they seem to back off a bit.

Kobra

[feardaram]

i bought the book last night. flipped through it, didnt really have time to sit down and read it all. looks great! you guys really put alot of work into these! thanks!

a suggestion: in your next book, think about including more schemes (like bigbs). you no doubt do a great job of breaking down plays, but i think for many people it would also be helpful to including some kind of play call scheme, or kinda like what plays to call to set up other plays. much of this can be derived from the book on our own i guess, and you do go into it somewhat, but something as specific as bigbs singleback scheme (for other sets) would be helpful nonetheless. like if you were going to run weak i tight twins much of the game, "how" would you run it. this is only a suggestion, and maybe im asking too much of your already great products. im sure once i get to sit down and really read it ill be even more amazed.

[Low Key]

I have a tournament coming up this weekend and am very happy with the compression offense that I have picked up from you, but still have problems with my running game. Can anyone give me a go to power running play that I can use in a 3rd and 2 situation? Or a 3rd and 4 pass play that has a very high percentage? Thanks for all the help this year.

[SupaManu]

Just picked this up since I use Oaklands PB and have skimmed through a little of it and have liked what I've seen so far. Too bad I won't really get to sit down and read this for a few days...but job well done.

[Sully]

Yea, having really good TE helps, but it can run with most teams depending on what plays you call.

Well i have a pretty good TE with my niners,but no standout wide reciever,would you reccomend this or one of the other books?

[Kobra]

I ran this book with the Chiefs and they don't have great WRs either. So I dont see any problems with running the 49ers.

[evad04]

Sorry Sully, they aren't Mac compatible. I'm working on a solution for future products, but have struck out so far. I uses Macs myself so I am motivated, but the technology just isn't there yet.
Sad... but don't give up Bert!!! (i have a mac)

[daverz06]

Big b / Kobra-

I picked up the guide last night, great work... I can tell you guys put a lot of effort into this. I havent had too much time to read through it yet, but I did look over Big B's SB scheme. Needless to say, I do pretty much the exact same thing with the Washington PB, instead I use the SB Bunch, Stack Weak and Stack Doubles. One of the things that really seems to stand out between these types of sets in the Skins PB vs. the Raiders PB is the fact that the Skins book seems to have a lot better run plays. More slams and dives (quick developing runs).

After skimming through the Oakland PB I dont see many of these. In fact the only way to get a Slam in the Bunch or the Tight is to form shift from SB BIg, but then I have 2 TEs (which is great for running, but takes a bit away from the passing game).

In reading Big B's posts and books I know that he isnt too fond of the Wash PB becasue of the LACK of protection. Without labbing yet, it seems to me that I will have a problem with running out of the OAk PB in the SB Bunch and Tight sets. I know that Big B preaches on being able to run and passs out of the same form, and I was wondering if you guys were really able to get a good run game going out of these sets??

[feardaram]

you are forgetting something......... you can come out in bunch or tight, keep the sb big slam as an audible, audible to it, and formation shift back to bunch or tight. now you have that play, in whatever formation you want, with the correct personel for the formation.

[Kobra]

I am able to run out of the tight, but I have to run counters, traps, and stretch plays. I am not a big fan of running compressed sets when trying to run the ball inside because it brings to many defenders closer to the ball carrier. I prefer to go outside where no defenders are at. Now if my opponent leaves the defenders outside while I am running a compressed set, then I will look to run inside because there are more run blockers than defenders.

Kobra

In the pic below, look at where the CBs are lined up outside. This is when I tend to run inside.

[Kobra]

If the CBs line up inside like they do in the screen shot below, then I like to run outside when running the Singleback Tight.

[daverz06]

Good stuff guys, thanks for the quick response. Kobra, what is your favorite running play(s) out of the tight/bunch. One of the things that I got accustomed too when running the SB Bunch in the skins book was to call the slam then form shift to the Normal 4 WR. This would spread the cbs back out and give me a ton of room to run up the middle. I really like using this in my game plan because I had some good pass plays too when I do this.

I am not sure if I am going to switch books or not. One of my favorite routes is the Dig route that works progressively up field, and this route is found EVERYWHERE in the Oak PB. It is only in a few places in the Skins book.

I also like having a back offest in the backfield like in the Stack doubles form in the Skins book.. the only way to get this in the Oak pb is in the split back form. This allows the back to get to the flats really quick and destroy man coverage.

[feardaram]

oak has SB offset weak or strong, or something like that

[Kobra]

Singleback Offset Strong. Only playbook that has it. I dont like the run plays though in that set.

Kobra

[daverz06]

I am just wondering what people are thinking about this book, maybe more importantly the schemes that you can run with this pb??

[CanadianPimp]

To be honest, I don't know if this playbook is for me. Lately I've been passing 90% of the time with the Titans. I bought your Vikings playbook Kobra. I still use the book. At first, I was pretty overwhelmed. I still haven't labbed every play you broke down (I haven't touched the Singleback). I came up with a Shotgun/No Huddle offense that's pretty effective, but relies heavily on the pass. I'm so adept to passing that I don't know if I could even go back to running it 40% of the time. Plus I don't think I'm in for learning a new playbook just yet. But the book looks amazing.

[SuPeRfLyKiD]

I just purchased the book last night, but I haven't really had a chance to sit down and really read it yet. I read Big B's Singleback Scheme earlier today and it looked pretty impressive. I'm really going to buckle down this weekend and start to work with it. The good thing about Big B's breakdown is that it also can work with other playbooks, because currently I am using Minnesota's playbook.

[slvrNblck Rdr]

If the CBs line up inside like they do in the screen shot below, then I like to run outside when running the Singleback Tight.

Kobra, as far as I remember, the Raiders Singleback Tight formation has only few running plays, so you just call a run play (such as offtackle), and run outside or inside depenidng on where D players line up?

[Kobra]

No, I don't run default run plays from the Singleback Tight. I like to come in another formation and then formation shift to the Singleback Tight. For instance I will call the Singleback Big HB Counter, then formation shift to the Singleback Tight. If its man, I normally will motion the WR away from the side I plan to run. That way I have one less defender to deal with once the ball is snapped. For this to work, you need a few good pass plays so your opponent wont cheat to stop the counter.

Kobra

[zerowley]

Great book. The effort and time spent on it is apparent in the quality. Props to both of you guys.

I've gone through a bit of everything so far and can't wait to put it to work. I look forward to tossing ideas around with some of you guys.

[StopPlying]

The Book is great. looked through some of it and cant wait to add what I learned so far to my O.

Ok I cant find a play that BigB is talking about in his SB section. its I-Form 3WRs HB check Down I dont see that play in Oak PB. I see 966 H Flat no HB Check Down.

[BigB]

you are forgetting something......... you can come out in bunch or tight, keep the sb big slam as an audible, audible to it, and formation shift back to bunch or tight. now you have that play, in whatever formation you want, with the correct personel for the formation.


Thank you I was wondering when someone was going to say something about that. The only thing is that the stuff in oakland is not and can't really be done with the Skins playbook. In regards to routes you have. More so in the Singleback offset.

[BigB]

The Book is great. looked through some of it and cant wait to add what I learned so far to my O.

Ok I cant find a play that BigB is talking about in his SB section. its I-Form 3WRs HB check Down I dont see that play in Oak PB. I see 966 H Flat no HB Check Down.

Look in the strong slot or singleback twin te's.

[BigB]

I just purchased the book last night, but I haven't really had a chance to sit down and really read it yet. I read Big B's Singleback Scheme earlier today and it looked pretty impressive. I'm really going to buckle down this weekend and start to work with it. The good thing about Big B's breakdown is that it also can work with other playbooks, because currently I am using Minnesota's playbook.

Thank you dawg. You have the idea and know what was being done here. The reason why I showed that scheme was for many reason. One, the orutes you get and can pull in and out of this set NO OTHER PLAYBOOK allows you to do this. There are routes that off the snap you can throw and no one can cover them. (This will be showed in the filmroom or in the Seattle/Det. playbook.) Then to be able to formation shift a running play from any of the singleback sets and hide them is tight also. When you follow ANY guide I write you can walk with it with other books. Thanks for the shout out.

[BigB]

Big b / Kobra-

I picked up the guide last night, great work... I can tell you guys put a lot of effort into this. I havent had too much time to read through it yet, but I did look over Big B's SB scheme. Needless to say, I do pretty much the exact same thing with the Washington PB, instead I use the SB Bunch, Stack Weak and Stack Doubles. One of the things that really seems to stand out between these types of sets in the Skins PB vs. the Raiders PB is the fact that the Skins book seems to have a lot better run plays. More slams and dives (quick developing runs).

After skimming through the Oakland PB I dont see many of these. In fact the only way to get a Slam in the Bunch or the Tight is to form shift from SB BIg, but then I have 2 TEs (which is great for running, but takes a bit away from the passing game).

In reading Big B's posts and books I know that he isnt too fond of the Wash PB becasue of the LACK of protection. Without labbing yet, it seems to me that I will have a problem with running out of the OAk PB in the SB Bunch and Tight sets. I know that Big B preaches on being able to run and passs out of the same form, and I was wondering if you guys were really able to get a good run game going out of these sets??


I also showed a counter, dive, and a slam. Now there are tosses in these singleback sets also. So I would like to ask is how many running plays do you need?

[BigB]

I am able to run out of the tight, but I have to run counters, traps, and stretch plays. I am not a big fan of running compressed sets when trying to run the ball inside because it brings to many defenders closer to the ball carrier. I prefer to go outside where no defenders are at. Now if my opponent leaves the defenders outside while I am running a compressed set, then I will look to run inside because there are more run blockers than defenders.

Kobra

In the pic below, look at where the CBs are lined up outside. This is when I tend to run inside.


This is the key to running out of the compression. When the DB's stya outside you pound up the gut, and if they draw in you take it inside. Then you run certain plays when you read bump and run, zone, and man. These things come to you when you lab the ways many people defend the run.

[BigB]

i bought the book last night. flipped through it, didnt really have time to sit down and read it all. looks great! you guys really put alot of work into these! thanks!

a suggestion: in your next book, think about including more schemes (like bigbs). you no doubt do a great job of breaking down plays, but i think for many people it would also be helpful to including some kind of play call scheme, or kinda like what plays to call to set up other plays. much of this can be derived from the book on our own i guess, and you do go into it somewhat, but something as specific as bigbs singleback scheme (for other sets) would be helpful nonetheless. like if you were going to run weak i tight twins much of the game, "how" would you run it. this is only a suggestion, and maybe im asking too much of your already great products. im sure once i get to sit down and really read it ill be even more amazed.


Your not really. The thing is that everyone uses there own hot routes and can look at a play from the playcalling screne and guess at how it will work vs. man or zone. The thing is how will these plays work together when ran in a scheme. Just like a defensive playbook many are more interested in schemes tnan set-ups. You have been reading my mind all this year dagw. LOL

[StopPlying]

Look in the strong slot or singleback twin te's.
Found it :D its in SB Slot Strong

[oouie433]

Man,

I didn't know how NASTY oakland's playbook was until I labbed it last night before I got on line for the first time. Good stuff VG.

[Kobra]

I think once you really look into the playbook you will see how good it really it is. When I first looked at when I first got the game, I didn't think that much of it, mainly because it had only one Shotgun formation in it. However after looking at in October after B told me to look at it again, I was pretty amazed. Once I started to really lab it, I was impressed, that's why I stuck with it for the last 4 months.

Kobra

[oouie433]

I think once you really look into the playbook you will see how good it really it is. When I first looked at when I first got the game, I didn't think that much of it, mainly because it had only one Shotgun formation in it. However after looking at in October after B told me to look at it again, I was pretty amazed. Once I started to really lab it, I was impressed, that's why I stuck with it for the last 4 months.

Kobra


yeah,

I've been using seattles playbook and was gonna hold out on buying oaklands playbook since I saw ya'll was gonna put out a seattle playbook. But when I saw that post you put up with the table of contents for oaklands, I said it was worth the money. And like I said, when I started labbing the playbook based on your's and Big B's concepts (I changed a couple of plays that you had listed to run diff than you had them, more to my liking), I really see why you guys stuck with this book as one of your favorites. Still gonna get seattle's playbook when it's done though (maybe :) ).

Like I said, good stuff.....

[bearsfan217]

i just got the book as well, and im kinda confused about Pulling routes from one play and using it in another? I couldnt find where it explained it in the book without giving it away to those who havent purchased, can someone (BigB, Kobra or whoever) explain to me how to do this? Or just tell me what section in the playbook explains it would be great. THanks

[slvrNblck Rdr]

No, I don't run default run plays from the Singleback Tight. I like to come in another formation and then formation shift to the Singleback Tight. For instance I will call the Singleback Big HB Counter, then formation shift to the Singleback Tight. If its man, I normally will motion the WR away from the side I plan to run. That way I have one less defender to deal with once the ball is snapped. For this to work, you need a few good pass plays so your opponent wont cheat to stop the counter.

Kobra

Kobra,

Thx for your quick answer, and let me ask a related question. :) Do you have a formation shift or audible to call your running play, when you come out with a Single Tight formation pass play such as WR option, and you figure that you wana audible to a run play?

[StopPlying]

i just got the book as well, and im kinda confused about Pulling routes from one play and using it in another? I couldnt find where it explained it in the book without giving it away to those who havent purchased, can someone (BigB, Kobra or whoever) explain to me how to do this? Or just tell me what section in the playbook explains it would be great. THanks
its in BigBs Compresion book

[slvrNblck Rdr]

Kobra and BigB,

I purchased the Oakland Playbook and I’ve only read a few sections so far, but I’ve already learned a lot of good stuff. I now recognized that I was just not effectively using some of formations you guys break down. You guys really put a lot of hard work and effort into this playbook. Huge Thanks, and pls be ready for my questions when I read more sections. :D

[slvrNblck Rdr]

i just got the book as well, and im kinda confused about Pulling routes from one play and using it in another? I couldnt find where it explained it in the book without giving it away to those who havent purchased, can someone (BigB, Kobra or whoever) explain to me how to do this? Or just tell me what section in the playbook explains it would be great. THanks

Are you talking about the play in "Big B's Singleback Scheme" section?

[Kobra]

i just got the book as well, and im kinda confused about Pulling routes from one play and using it in another? I couldnt find where it explained it in the book without giving it away to those who havent purchased, can someone (BigB, Kobra or whoever) explain to me how to do this? Or just tell me what section in the playbook explains it would be great. THanks

Check your PM box.

Kobra

[Kobra]

Kobra,

Thx for your quick answer, and let me ask a related question. :) Do you have a formation shift or audible to call your running play, when you come out with a Single Tight formation pass play such as WR option, and you figure that you wana audible to a run play?

Yes I got I one always have in my auds. I normally have two plays in mind before I call each play. I will put one my play in my auds by using on the auds on the fly. For instance I will put Singleback Wing HB Counter in my auds, ( normally X on the Xbox) and then call a pass from the Singleback Big, I then will read the coverage before formation shifting to the Singleback Tight. If I think I can run, I will aud to the Counter, then formation shift to the Tight. I hope that answers your question.

[bearsfan217]

Are you talking about the play in "Big B's Singleback Scheme" section?

yea there was a play in there that had him pulling a route, couldnt figure out how to do it.. but Kobra just squared me away.. Thanks guys!

[Lites Out]

to me football is football. madden is madden. the routes in 06 will be no different than the routes in 07. so my question is can i take the stuff from this book and apply to whatever book comes close to this book in 07.

lets say the Falcons playbook iin 07 s the one that resembles the Raiders playbook of 06. could i use this info next year

[Kobra]

to me football is football. madden is madden. the routes in 06 will be no different than the routes in 07. so my question is can i take the stuff from this book and apply to whatever book comes close to this book in 07.

lets say the Falcons playbook iin 07 s the one that resembles the Raiders playbook of 06. could i use this info next year

I would say yes. I run a lot plays the same way from different formations. For instance say I have a play in the I Form Twin WR that has the FL ( lined up next to the SE) running a corner route and I also have a play from the Singleback Normal that has the SL also running a corner route. I like to playmaker the SE on a flat route in both sets. Next I like to have another receiver run a streak. In the I Form Twin WR, I will motion the HB to same side as the SE and FL. I then will hot route the HB on streak. In the Singleback Normal, I will motion the FL over next to SL and SE and hot route him on a streak. Both formations have the same three routes being ran, but gives a different look to my opponent. As long as your playbook has a SL receiver running a corner route from different formations, you can run this same route combination.

What I like about this route combination is its effective against pretty much any type of zone coverage. If the defense plays Cover 2 look to go deep to either corner or streak. If the defensive coverage is Cover 3, look for the corner route. If the defense plays Cover 4, look for the flat or the corner.

If the defense brings the heat, you can always leave the TE and FB to pass block out of the I Form Twin or the TE and HB from the Singleback Normal without effecting the pass route combinations on the other side.

Below is a screen shot of what I am talking about from the I-Form Twin WR.

[Kobra]

Here is what it looks like from the Singleback Normal. Notice the same pass routes combos as the I Form Twin WR, but a different look.

[FlaPride]

The book is great you guys. I have used Oaklands book since the R/P glitch was talked about. It's great to have this book especially since I am so familiar with it.

My question is on the Singleback empty play that was discussed in the BigB scheme section.
When I shift that play my TE lines up in the backfield and he drops it more times than not when I go to dump the ball to him quickly. he also stops his route and stands there instead of continuing. Is this normal or should I sub in a back at TE for that set?
thanks in advance....

[zerowley]

The book is great you guys. I have used Oaklands book since the R/P glitch was talked about. It's great to have this book especially since I am so familiar with it.

My question is on the Singleback empty play that was discussed in the BigB scheme section.
When I shift that play my TE lines up in the backfield and he drops it more times than not when I go to dump the ball to him quickly. he also stops his route and stands there instead of continuing. Is this normal or should I sub in a back at TE for that set?
thanks in advance....

Try coming out in Tight (and have the play in your audibles) and then audibling to it and then formation shift. The TE is lined up out of position and takes a ratings hit when you come out in Empty 4 WR and shift it.

As for the route, it is originally a flat route, not a swing route like an HB typically runs. It's more of a decoy than anything, but it is nice to have him go out if you get heavy heat and need to dump it off quickly.

[FlaPride]

Thats a great idea, thanks. will try that out for sure.

[OvertheHill]

Can someone help me with the marrying of routes? I hear peeps talking about them, how there are several combinations could you give me ones that work best?

[sling]

does the book break down plays against bump and run with the blitz? i.e quarters db strike1 and undersmoke?

I mean I know how to beat it by using short quick passes, but does it explain how to really make ur opponent pay for doin such things.

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ive been using the pb since the beginning of the year, are there still things that i can learn from this breakdown?

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ATTN: Korba or Big B

Ok I looked at ur example of the weak i tight bump n run beater but im having a little trouble.

If they follow u exactly then it works, but when they slide over it doesnt work.

[Kobra]

does the book break down plays against bump and run with the blitz? i.e quarters db strike1 and undersmoke?

I mean I know how to beat it by using short quick passes, but does it explain how to really make ur opponent pay for doin such things.

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ive been using the pb since the beginning of the year, are there still things that i can learn from this breakdown?

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ATTN: Korba or Big B

Ok I looked at ur example of the weak i tight bump n run beater but im having a little trouble.

If they follow u exactly then it works, but when they slide over it doesnt work.

There are few blitz beaters, I know I show one against the Dime Strike. I normally just go max protect and don't have to much problems moving the ball.

I hope there is stuff in there that players who been running the book since day 1 can learn. I think with over 400 pages, there is got to be something in there that is useful.

Try it in a normal mode, don't try it in practice mode, it tends to work differently. I have had success with that play online.

Kobra

[TitansFan12345]

can i sell my compression pb and trade it out for the oakland one?
pm with answer

[BigB]

can i sell my compression pb and trade it out for the oakland one?
pm with answer

T Fan no you can't dawg. LOL

[StopPlying]

Dam Im loving this PB again I ran with it for a little while and put it down for the Minny.but I bought your Ebook. I skimed threw it and its great.

Just played a league game using Oak PB. LOL I ran for 163yrds in just 12car. running out of SB tight with 2 TEs. I ran a very balance O.

[OvertheHill]

Can somebody list the route combinations in compression sets so I can utilize Oaklands PB better?

[nothasoul]

BigB i have been running something like your singleback set with the Titans playbook earlyer in the year. I wanted to know what you did not like about there's? I also wanted to know what is your advice for me on my league play with the jets. The problem is there oline suuuuuuuuucccks bad all around and it is tuff to implament your philosophy with the sigleback sets with a weak oline. Take a look and check them out. Got any advice

[OvertheHill]

I just googled Compression Offense, marry routes, and the search only came up with Big Bs compression offense guide. I cant believe there is no info on this type of offense anywhere.

[sling]

Im liking this PB too, I ran it for a while than went back to Minny. When im with Minny Im always like 100% pass because im mostly using the shotguns. But atleast with this i can run the ball too. Nice write up VG boys.

[CP]

Can somebody list the route combinations in compression sets so I can utilize Oaklands PB better?

One I know is flat, corner streak, but I would like to know the rest myself

[CP]

BigB i have been running something like your singleback set with the Titans playbook earlyer in the year. I wanted to know what you did not like about there's? I also wanted to know what is your advice for me on my league play with the jets. The problem is there oline suuuuuuuuucccks bad all around and it is tuff to implament your philosophy with the sigleback sets with a weak oline. Take a look and check them out. Got any advice

U gotta hope and pray and play OUTSTANDING DEFENSE

[nothasoul]

U gotta hope and pray and play OUTSTANDING DEFENSE
LOL i was wondering why this team was like 30th left in the league draft :mad: i should have taken my Niners at least i know not to expect to win.

[SuPeRfLyKiD]

LOL i was wondering why this team was like 30th left in the league draft :mad: i should have taken my Niners at least i know not to expect to win.
It's not necessarily the team that matters in this game. It's all about if your style of play is better than your opponent's. Myself and many others have beaten the Colts by using teams such as the Texans or Titans.

[kmb38]

I use the washington pb but I also have used the oakland playbook. I like the washington cause of the running plays. Is the oakland pb similar to washington and would i be able to use the guide for washingtons pb?

[GodSon20]

I bought the Oakland playbook and i was wondering, did it come with a play call sheet ? All your other books did so im just wondering if this one did or not. thanks in advance.

[Kobra]

It was left out for this one. Sorry about that.

Kobra

[TitansFan12345]

In BigB's scheme, on a play, he said "i pulled the fade route from the bunch fade play" how do u "pull" a rotue from a play and put it into another????

[Kobra]

It's in the compression book he wrote.

Kobra

[BigB]

I just googled Compression Offense, marry routes, and the search only came up with Big Bs compression offense guide. I cant believe there is no info on this type of offense anywhere.

Hee hee hee. ;)

[BigB]

BigB i have been running something like your singleback set with the Titans playbook earlyer in the year. I wanted to know what you did not like about there's? I also wanted to know what is your advice for me on my league play with the jets. The problem is there oline suuuuuuuuucccks bad all around and it is tuff to implament your philosophy with the sigleback sets with a weak oline. Take a look and check them out. Got any advice

Hmm I will look at Tenn. Ron J has a good understanding of the Tenn Book. Any team can run a singleback set. You just have to be able to get some yards on the ground in it. Once you able to do that you will be fine. I will try my best and get a look at the book for you. The only thing I remembered about the Tenn book is that the I form is off the chain.

[BigB]

Try coming out in Tight (and have the play in your audibles) and then audibling to it and then formation shift. The TE is lined up out of position and takes a ratings hit when you come out in Empty 4 WR and shift it.

As for the route, it is originally a flat route, not a swing route like an HB typically runs. It's more of a decoy than anything, but it is nice to have him go out if you get heavy heat and need to dump it off quickly.


LOL I was hoping someone was going to tell him. Thanks dawg.

Now when I did the section on the singleback set I had these plays in my audibles and I did the audible on the fly. (Please PM me if you don't know how or asked Kobra.) This way you can keep an opp. on his toes.

[TitansFan12345]

ive read threw the book all of it...made notes..etc...how do i kno wen to call wat play...like a play call sheet?

[slvrNblck Rdr]

In BigB's scheme, on a play, he said "i pulled the fade route from the bunch fade play" how do u "pull" a rotue from a play and put it into another????

Yea, when I read the BigB's scetion, I was also wondering how to pull the fade route. BigB, can you let us know?

[bigpopaford]

man this book is off the chain kobra you did a good job. when i first got it i wasnt that impressed but boy i was wrong man there is so many plays you dont really know where to start let me rephase i wasnt impressed when i was labbing these plays i didnt like it but against another guy he had know clue it was a shoot out i darn near scored on every possetion i'm a leval six he was a leval 10 it made me feel good. the first play i ran was sb big hb counter i gained like 15 20 yards that set the pace all game i suck at running but i did really good tonight thanks kobra

p.s. how is your baby girl?

[Kobra]

man this book is off the chain kobra you did a good job. when i first got it i wasnt that impressed but boy i was wrong man there is so many plays you dont really know where to start let me rephase i wasnt impressed when i was labbing these plays i didnt like it but against another guy he had know clue it was a shoot out i darn near scored on every possetion i'm a leval six he was a leval 10 it made me feel good. the first play i ran was sb big hb counter i gained like 15 20 yards that set the pace all game i suck at running but i did really good tonight thanks kobra

p.s. how is your baby girl?

Baby girl is doing well. She keeps the wife and I up at nights, but hey that's what new borns do.

As far as the playbook goes if you follow the plays and call them against the right coverage, the plays are hard to stop. The key is not get focus on just throwing the ball to one receiver. Use all of them. I am glad you like it.

Kobra

[Kobra]

ive read threw the book all of it...made notes..etc...how do i kno wen to call wat play...like a play call sheet?

The reason I didn't add a call sheet was because I wanted
the readers to be able to take the plays (well over 150) in the book and decide on how to incorporate into their own style of offense.

Kobra

[TitansFan12345]

u have any suggestions? like would u suggest using 1 or 2 formations and the plays u had listed n them? or something like that

[Redknight]

Kobra, I am impressed! This pb is much way if not better than your vikings pb. You finally write up about set up scheme against man AND zone coverage. this open my eye up big time to see where certain routes kill zone. for example, i learned that wr w/ fade with other wr w/ hook kill one side of zone coverage. Excellent finds :)

I would like to add that to make any plays out from this pb efficently, you gotta master R2 (ps2, dk abt xbox) otherwise you can't complete any deep pass.

I tried to use some running plays so far it doesn't work well for me. Instead, I choose to pass a lot. I think i gotta to hit lab again to practice my running game :(

[daverz06]

I would like to add that to make any plays out from this pb efficently, you gotta master R2 (ps2, dk abt xbox) otherwise you can't complete any deep pass.

:(


What do you mean by this??? Pump Fake???

[daverz06]

for example, i learned that wr w/ fade with other wr w/ hook kill one side of zone coverage. Excellent finds :)

:(

What part of the book did you find this in?

[Redknight]

What do you mean by this??? Pump Fake???

Personally , i dont use pump fake because sometime it cause my fingers tangled up lol.

What i mean, use R2 button helps you to switch one wr to other wr with accuray very fast.

you need safety to cheat on other side to allow you to complete long bomb to your wr one on one coverage.

[Redknight]

What part of the book did you find this in?

One of example , i believe , is under singleback big ACE CURLS.

[Redknight]

The reason I didn't add a call sheet was because I wanted
the readers to be able to take the plays (well over 150) in the book and decide on how to incorporate into their own style of offense.

Kobra

I agree with you. Do you have any advice to what use play when in red zone? I have no problems scoring but my scoring usually come from long bomb, long runs, or long plays. when it come to ten yards, i usually get stuffed. any suggestions which play is best in red zone??

[SuPeRfLyKiD]

I agree with you. Do you have any advice to what use play when in red zone? I have no problems scoring but my scoring usually come from long bomb, long runs, or long plays. when it come to ten yards, i usually get stuffed. any suggestions which plays which s best in red zone??
I'm with Redknight. My offensive is a powerhouse until I get inside the 15 yard line lol. I usually like running playactions out of the Weak I sets and hitting the TE or the FL running the post across the middle.

[tjor24]

is this anything like the titans pb? are you guys coming out w/ a jets pb or anything similar?

[zerowley]

I'm with Redknight. My offensive is a powerhouse until I get inside the 15 yard line lol. I usually like running playactions out of the Weak I sets and hitting the TE or the FL running the post across the middle.

My red zone offense could also use some work, but I find going in to practice mode and practicing plays in the red zone helps. It helps to get an idea of what is effective and what isn't and keeps you prepared for anything your opponent might throw at you.

[sling]

my red zone offense is ok, the problem comes when one of the elite TEs is my opponent. Cuz all someone has to is a a playaction with a te post.

[Redknight]

I think i just found one formation seems to work very well in zones.

its split back flex close formation.

[TitansFan12345]

omg i jus played this guy who wud do engage eight, mid blitz, full out blitz, blitz from evberywhere and newhere, i had NO TIME, for any route to develop(all the routes i like in oak pb from ur reads were not suit for it) i threw 11 ints thats a first, id been averaging about 1 or 0 the past 15 games b4 this, how on earth do u beat this its crazy he got 17 sacks

[Kobra]

Are you leaving in extra blockers? Are you looking to throw to the flats? Are you able to pre-read the coverage?

[TitansFan12345]

i hit troupe 8 times for like 56 yards in flats..but somtimes he wud do man flats..i think..n pick that off
all i can read is if its zone or man, i cant tell wat type of zone
and i left my fb and hb in to blokc ALOT

[Redknight]

Are you leaving in extra blockers? Are you looking to throw to the flats? Are you able to pre-read the coverage?

hey are you going to give us some tips with which play is best in red zone?

[Conclusion]

VG staff, I just bought it and flipped through last night....I was very impressed with the book.. the best part was big b's singleback scheme... More stuff like that for like the Weak sets with Form shifts would've been real cool...

PS, I got some stuff for that seattle book pm me... Thats been my book all year...

[oouie433]

I agree with you. Do you have any advice to what use play when in red zone? I have no problems scoring but my scoring usually come from long bomb, long runs, or long plays. when it come to ten yards, i usually get stuffed. any suggestions which play is best in red zone??

what I've found works in the red zone is to hit the seam, something like a post. Most opponents run zone in redzone because man is too easy to beat (high slants, hooks etc) so they'll cover the flats and corner routes. Posts are pretty much always open and also utilize your TE in the red zone. Madden's right, he's a beast down there (size advantage), run drags or crossing routes for him..........

[Kobra]

I run ins, drags, slants, curls and flat passes in the red zone. Use them hot routes and you will be fine.

Kobra

[thebigman]

VG staff, I just bought it and flipped through last night....I was very impressed with the book.. the best part was big b's singleback scheme... More stuff like that for like the Weak sets with Form shifts would've been real cool...

PS, I got some stuff for that seattle book pm me... Thats been my book all year...


Is there a Seattle PB coming out?

[Maverick]

i END UP PASSING MORE BECAUSE MY RUNNING GAME STALLS. PASSING KILLS ME AND I LOSE GAMES ON INTERCEPTIONS. HAVING MAJOR PROBLEMS ON READING DEFENSES.

HHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPP!!!!! !!!!!!!

[tjor24]

are there any books or guides that give a lot of strategies for running and stopping the run?

[TitansFan12345]

could u possibly add some suggestions of plays to call on first,second,3rd, 4th depending on the situation?

[Redknight]

are there any books or guides that give a lot of strategies for running and stopping the run?

Check out VG''s products in other thread; they have titans, vikings, compression , and oak playbook. All of them have tips on how to run well. I believe from what i heard titans pb guide is best for giving out tips for running.

As for defense, there's no guide for this year.

I would suggest you to visit this site everyday to get more information in your head and you use it in your game.

[Redknight]

could u possibly add some suggestions of plays to call on first,second,3rd, 4th depending on the situation?

OK , i like to call for a long pass play or PA on first downs. i.e singleback twin te or split flex close-drive (motion your hb to next se)

On second down, I like to call running plays to get more yards. i.e singleback big-hb slams

On third down, look for your clutch players. Curls and post routes are best in this situation. i.e - singleback trip bunch - smash slot

On fourth down, punt :D

[TONY 4 MVP]

Just got the book guys...Great work.... :)

[daverz06]

I like to call a quick hitter pass play or a slam play on first down. These are plays that are almost guaranteed yards on first down. This will keep your opponent on his toes on second down. On second and 6 you can do almost anythingl. Keep mixing it up on second down like run pass, pa pass etc. Your goal should obviously be to pick up a first down, but just as importantly you dont want to have too many third downs that are more than 3rd and 4. Once again on third and short you can run or pass.. call a short pass, a deep pass... makes it very difficult for your opponent to key in on.

[Redknight]

Guys, do anyone have problems with running out from this pb? I seem to have a lot of problems with running so i end up abandon the running game and passing for rest of the game.

[TONY 4 MVP]

Ok...I just got this book and its looks great so far....I only have one question....I noticed in one of BigB's plays that you have to "pull" a fade route from another play...I was just wondering how this is done :confused: I didnt see any thing in the book that lets you know...Could you guys please let me know something? thank you....

[BascoSauce]

aight cj this is how its done (how me, a nine fingered kid telling you how to do something is beyond me!!) but ok audible to the play with the fade, extend it to the first down, and then hit formation shift, and then cancel it! hope that clarifies it

[TONY 4 MVP]

aight cj this is how its done (how me, a nine fingered kid telling you how to do something is beyond me!!) but ok audible to the play with the fade, extend it to the first down, and then hit formation shift, and then cancel it! hope that clarifies it
thank you sir....

[zerowley]

Guys, do anyone have problems with running out from this pb? I seem to have a lot of problems with running so i end up abandon the running game and passing for rest of the game.

I get pass happy when using this book on occasion as well and end up abandoning the run, especially when I'm behind (even if it's by a FG). I have to emphasise the run game from the get go whether it is working or not.

I try to keep a "pass to open up the run" (55% pass 45% run or so) philosophy but turn into Mike Martz much too often. I don't know what to tell you other than to keep running (regardless of whether it is working or not) to keep from being one dimensional. It's easier said than done, but try to keep it in your head.

[Kobra]

I throw a heck a lot of more than I run the ball. Its something like 65% pass to 35% run. The key with my passing game is I throw short passes to replace my run game. I also go deep to keep the defense from taking away the short pass. Another thing is I dont have one WR I throw to all game. Intead I use everyone, that my opponent can not key on WR.

Kobra

[Godson NY]

Yo Kobra http://www.vgsportsinc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44361

[Kobra]

Thanks for the tip.

[Tadow904]

This Book is hot.

[Swift456]

I'm with Redknight. My offensive is a powerhouse until I get inside the 15 yard line lol. I usually like running playactions out of the Weak I sets and hitting the TE or the FL running the post across the middle.



I would suggest trying to run the ball in the redzone more....also the weak close te fade is nice pump fake right then lob to te and user if u have to.......

[Conclusion]

Kobra, I did not see anything really breaking down what a smart coach would do when you come out in the weak I close that you broke down.. A smart Defensive coach would reset his D and pretty much take away any run game ... how do you beat this besides taking advantage of him if he plays man by having your WR burn his LB??? Im thinking what I would do against this set is reset the d and play some kind of zone with manual heat... or also drop the guy back on some downs and manually cover with the same guy... Im just curious to see your fav. plays against all 7 still in the box, and really 8 cause the left wr is still tight...

[wtomasino]

I must agree that I'm running the ball alot less with this PB, however when I do run they are ALWAYS more than 10 yards, I would say 15+. The catch is that I have been stuffed for loses, more than my old PB.


I still like it and I think it just takes some more labbing, experince and a determined to run attitude if thats what you want.

Besides I'm not even close to done with all the reading and homework I do with a PB.


I do want to say thank you. 1 nice thing you guys did by breaking down the SB is teach me a method to really breaking down a PB. I never realized all the options you have besides just regular play. With motion and formation switches and the other tools you have provided, it will allow me to apply those same principles to other PBS and even to this 1. There just isn't enough time in my day and you guys have saved me months of hard work and pain. THANKS!

[Redknight]

Yo Kobra http://www.vgsportsinc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44361

The thread in this link is closed :confused:

[Redknight]

I would suggest trying to run the ball in the redzone more....also the weak close te fade is nice pump fake right then lob to te and user if u have to.......

I just found one formation that seems work almost 100 percent of time for me. That is spilt-flex close formation. You have three WRs (te in slot if you have elite te) and two Rb/fb in backfield. You can do so many things with this when you re in red zone.

btw.. lob to wr/te in redzone is big NO-NO. IMO

[getyogameup06]

I just googled Compression Offense, marry routes, and the search only came up with Big Bs compression offense guide. I cant believe there is no info on this type of offense anywhere.

LOL, LOL, LOL, THATS RIDICULOUS

[tjor24]

is it worth buying this if u dont use the oakland pb?

[Redknight]

is it worth buying this if u dont use the oakland pb?
Yes even if you dont plan on using oak pb because in oak breakdown, kobra listed other pb that have the same plays in oak pb.

[Swift456]

I do want to say thank you. 1 nice thing you guys did by breaking down the SB is teach me a method to really breaking down a PB. I never realized all the options you have besides just regular play. With motion and formation switches and the other tools you have provided, it will allow me to apply those same principles to other PBS and even to this 1. There just isn't enough time in my day and you guys have saved me months of hard work and pain. THANKS![/QUOTE]


Kobra and Bert put this on the front page!....hahaha

[Swift456]

I just found one formation that seems work almost 100 percent of time for me. That is spilt-flex close formation. You have three WRs (te in slot if you have elite te) and two Rb/fb in backfield. You can do so many things with this when you re in red zone.

btw.. lob to wr/te in redzone is big NO-NO. IMO



nah I dont think u know what ur talkin about....te fade is a great play in the red zone......come ply me and I will show u.......u just gotta know how to user....sometimes u dont even need to..........

[Conclusion]

Kobra/big B, how come you guys didnt talk about motioning fb out of backfield to make trips on WEak I tight and there was not formation shifting between those weak I formations.... and how come the bogus pump fake stuff was not shown where the safety bites like um 75% of the time and comes flying up the field :D :eek:

Any tips on either of those with $ plays would be cool in the upcoming filmrooms... if possible since it seems alot of us bought this book I would also suggest keep labbing it for the filmroom as all of us would love to keep expanding it... Also you did not show or talk about the quick drop post passes out of this book??? is that only because it is more efficient when in a spread offense????

NO matter what this is the best money I have spent on your site..

thanx

[Kobra]

To be honest we were running out of room. The book was getting so big we had to cut back. We did so some motion with the FB in the Weak I Close to the outside. We will look into showing some plays that have the FB sent in motion Weak I Tight Twins in the filmroom.

Kobra

[Redknight]

nah I dont think u know what ur talkin about....te fade is a great play in the red zone......come ply me and I will show u.......u just gotta know how to user....sometimes u dont even need to..........

I can imagine with elite TE. Just throw high to him. But would that work with lesser talent TE. Hard to say if it would work.

[Conclusion]

My team in my league is Da bears they have a good te, but not elite and the play works but not as good as say heap, winslow, gonzo, etc.etc...

[Tami26]

After I bought the Raiders Playbook from you guys, I took 4 days to stop playing Madden, and hit the books. I took notes, studied, and practiced very hard for those days. Since I have started playing again, using ONLY the Raiders playbook, I am 8 and 1, including 2 and 0, in league games. This stuff is truly unbelievable, and WELL WORTH the $$$. I can't possibly thank you guys enough. Here is one example (of many) of how you guys have helped me. I'm using Denver and playing the Colts. It's 24-24, and the only reason the guy is in the game is because of crazy big plays. He ran back a kickoff, had a ball tip off 3 guys land in his guys hands, etc. etc. Anyway, he kicked off to me, and I now have the ball at my 19 yardline w/ :19 left in regulation. Now ALL GAME, I have been using the compression offense, and have burned him several times, w/ the RAIDER FADE, by motioning A.Lelie to the right, letting Smith and Putzier take the coverage deep, and hitting Lelie on the long post underneath. Now, I'm not gonna pass the ball so I'm gonna try something, and if it doesn't work, go to OT. I choose the HB COUNTER(Singleback Big) and Formation shift to Singleback Tight, and motion Lelie to the right. SURE ENOUGH, he send practically his whole defense to the right looking to stop Lelie. Well, SURPRISE, SURPRISE!!!! I handoff to T. Bell on the counter, NOONE EVEN TOUCHES HIM, and 81 yds later, games over!! He message me after the game, telling me how great my play calling was, and that the last play was "BRILLIANT"!! Just thought you guys would like to hear that. :D You got a customer for life!!!!

[Kobra]

Thanks glad it helped you and thanks for your support.

Kobra

[TitansFan12345]

it better to memorize the motions, hot routes, or have them written down sumwhere n look as u go in the game for reference?

[RxCane]

Hey everyone

Im new to the site and so far I love what i'v been reading. I am a very average at best madden player and have recently purchased the Oak PB. I am still struggling against players online who all out blitz frequently. Any suggestions on a way to counter this...when I play someone with this style my numbers go down big time but other than that the PB has helped me improve.

[CP]

Hey everyone

Im new to the site and so far I love what i'v been reading. I am a very average at best madden player and have recently purchased the Oak PB. I am still struggling against players online who all out blitz frequently. Any suggestions on a way to counter this...when I play someone with this style my numbers go down big time but other than that the PB has helped me improve.

Me 2 i need some blocking schemes, cuz i struggle against the same type of people

[Redknight]

Me 2 i need some blocking schemes, cuz i struggle against the same type of people


Try throw first to flat if not then leave in more blockers.

[tjor24]

are u guys talkin about plays like enagage 8 or undersmoke? man blitzes or zone blitzes?

[tjor24]

anyone know where to get a printable play call sheet?

[TitansFan12345]

i really need a playcall sheet for oak.....i jus dno wen to call wat play

[Redknight]

anyone know where to get a printable play call sheet?

Really you can make your own play call sheet.

Just go to microsoft excel program
then you put headers then put name of plays under specific header,

i.e.

3rd and 1 to 2 yards

1. I form tiwn te hb blast
2. i form twin te pa fb flat

Goal-line

Runs

1. Goal line FB dive
2. Singleback big HB slam

[CP]

are u guys talkin about plays like enagage 8 or undersmoke? man blitzes or zone blitzes?

Mostly heavy man blitzes...

[tjor24]

i assume u mean cover o-if your wr's are getting jammed, use motion, if you have good stick control, just throw it up, but i assume you want a more consistent strategy because you probably dont get it every time. if you think your backs will be open, clear it out by sending everyone to the other side. you could max prot. if you dont need many yards, just throw a short pass to get out of it

[Swift456]

I can imagine with elite TE. Just throw high to him. But would that work with lesser talent TE. Hard to say if it would work.


Most tight ends are effective in this game...It works for most tight ends unless u are using some1 like fred baxter

[TitansFan12345]

in the compression offensse do u guys every do plays that rnt compressioned in like long yardage situations??? or for certain runs out of i form??

[Gares]

sup evry1, ive been using Oakland for a while....b4 the book came out...and ill just give u guys a small scheme that is pretty decent...here we go...

come out in any pass play in SB Tight (mix it up).....then audible to singleback big HB SLAM (great run play)....then quickly formation shift back to SB Tight (R1+Down)....now read the defense....since ur in the HB slam now....check each player and how they are set up.....lets say the D is in a 46 Normal and they bring each LB down behind each lineman to stop the run....then u audible to pass...but before all of this....right wen u come out of ur play....Watch CB1 and CB2 and see if they are playing man or zone(zone will be when the CB's run out to the sides then come in or stay if opponent uses Triangle R2, if CB is in man the CB will go str8 to where ever the WR is)....if they are in zone its an easy first down by doing all the auds ^^above^^ but just audible back to pass then put WR4 on wheel route put in motion to the right then snap the ball in the middle of his motion......since the CB is in zone he will drift in.....now if its a man......u can stick to the run or Put WR1 motion to the right then Put him on a drag to the right then motion him back...then put WR4 and a drag to the left so they crisscross.....this should eat up man....then wen u mix the plays up and run this scheme is very good when it comes to wanting somewhat fast and solid TD Drives.....

im running this with my hometown favorite team the eags....its nice

any other questions just ask.....talk to ya's l8er....im out

[cornbx]

Need some help! My boys and I play some money games for time to time I just got the playbook and was wondering how seattle would fit. They have a out standing O-line, couple of tall WR's, and a big TE but they are slow for the most part, is speed #1 for this playbook if so I'll look for another team. Help me get that change :)

[njssurf]

Kobra,
great book.

What plays are you favorite vs.

Cov. 3 / Nickel 3-3-5
and
Cov. 3 / Qtr.

I have your playbook.

Thanks

[shadymilkman]

Hey kobra...or anyone else for that matter, what are some good running plays to f-shift into singleback tight??? im looking for some but the only one i like is hb slam in sb big.

[moos3p]

counters and traps can be good

[kts1230]

i like to utilize fast good catching rbs like LT and Dunn and them by going to the flats, can someone tell me a good play or formation that i can do that with in this book?

[BK Arsonist]

I'm starting to get a feel for this book and I've managed to set my auds up to compliment my playcalling. The only problem I have with this book is that you can't form shift to SB big or big wing from trips.

[moos3p]

Shift to twin te, and motion to make the big

[RepDa410]

For those of you having trouble with the run game...

I-Twin Tight....HB Blast.

5 yards or more a pop. Enough said.

:)

[mddnplyr]

I was trying to change pb's to start using Detroit, but Detroit's pb doesn't fit my style. Bought the Oakland pb guide when it first came out but never looked at it. Finally looked at it last night and said that was it. There are about 4 formations that I have used when I was using Run-N-gun. The split backs close is nice and will be one of my favorites. The I-twin wr, sb trips bunch, sb tight and all of the weak-I's are nice. The weak-I's are almost identical to those in the run-n-gun book. That weak-I close is sweet. Because a lot of the plays are familiar to me the learning curve isn't that tough for me. Once I get this book down, it's over.

Big B good work on the guide. This is my final pb for 06 because it has a good blend of run and pass plays for me. Plus the weak-I formation have good tight end passing plays.

Excellent book!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mddnplyr

[StopPlying]

For those of you having trouble with the run game...

I-Twin Tight....HB Blast.

5 yards or more a pop. Enough said.

:)
I will try that any other tips on running the ball I really like this PB but can seem to get the run going. Ive been messing with the SB bigWing

[NezDogg]

If I get this guide. Will it have defense stragies too?

[slvrNblck Rdr]

If I get this guide. Will it have defense stragies too?

Nope. Only Raiders offensive playbook breakdown, but they are pretty good. ;)

[NezDogg]

Ok, is ther a defense ebook too?

[slvrNblck Rdr]

Ok, is ther a defense ebook too?

I think someone else was telling in other threads that the VG team were working on the defensive guide, but I'm not sure if that was only rumor or they have already released the guide. :confused:

[bobs2cents]

One thing that I like about the SB Big Wing is that when you motion the TE, he becomes a full back. Nice power set with the runs that are in the SB Big Wing.
I bought the Oakland PB the first day that it came out, I love it. I find myself going back to it from time to time (as well as the compression and stategy guides). I just wish that there was a strategy guide for Defense. My Run D is lacking to say the least. I just can't seam to stop the off tackle/outside runs. Any suggestions?

Peace

[NezDogg]

I purchased this book and it is great and I love Big D's Singleback Scheme. I can't figure out how to aud. the fade route, like the one in the bunch fade. Does anyone know how to audi. the fade route that is in the bunch fade?

[Titans 4 LIFE]

I purchased this book and it is great and I love Big D's Singleback Scheme. I can't figure out how to aud. the fade route, like the one in the bunch fade. Does anyone know how to audi. the fade route that is in the bunch fade?
if you mean hot route, you cant hot route to a true fade. you can mirror it then fomation shift but thats about all you can do with it, you might be able to pull it into a different play but idk. this was one of my favorite routes back when I used OAK playbook, if they werent expecting it it was pretty much always a 50yard gain.

[NezDogg]

Oh, I see....Then how do you mirror a route? Thanks for the help.

[Titans 4 LIFE]

Oh, I see....Then how do you mirror a route? Thanks for the help.
you smart route it then flip the play

[NezDogg]

you smart route it then flip the play

oh, that's sweet! thanks

[NezDogg]

Is this play in the book, it says to shift formation to bunch, then, "Now I pulled the fade route form the bunch fade play."
How do you get the fade route?

[moos3p]

you audible to the bunch fade, then smart route it. then cancel audible ( xbox black then white), and form shift into the bunch formation.

[NezDogg]

you audible to the bunch fade, then smart route it. then cancel audible ( xbox black then white), and form shift into the bunch formation.

ok, so you audible to the bunch fade play? Then smart route it. OK, but cancel the audiable? I don't understand that. Please explain. Thanks

[moos3p]

on xbox hit form shift button(black) then the block shift button (white) to go to original play (but it keeps the smart route

[NezDogg]

How do you cancel the audible in PS2?
Now I understand how this works! Thanks!

[NezDogg]

on xbox hit form shift button(black) then the block shift button (white) to go to original play (but it keeps the smart route

When I choose the fade audible, playmake the WR, then cancel the audible, it just goes back to the original play. I'm using PS2.

[kasiechaos]

I was labbing the TE Fade play in ZONE. I would motion the TE to the right and hot route the FL on a streak and keeping the cone on the FL I would go throw to the TE who is now in the cone and he would not catch the ball...mostly the ball just went by him over his head. What am I doing wrong?

[Kobra]

Try not to press to hard up on the stick. If you do, it tends to make the ball go over the top of TE. Also having an accurate QB helps.

Kobra

[kasiechaos]

I have Tom Brady, so i dont think its accuracy.

I started looking at the Weak I Close section and guess
I will now look Weak I Normal. Just trying to start with a few small plays as you suggested (get like 10 core plays and learn them). With the Weak I Close I have the WR Drag, the TE Fade, and the PA BOOT LT for passing.

What formation do you mainly run in your games with Oak?

Brent

[stickskills1]

Ballers,

The icon glitch has limited me to formations that are not vulnerable to the glitch. That being said, it would seem it is a blessing in disgiuse. In previous versions of Madden I was calling plays just because there was a bunch of plays. Now that I've limited myself, I've been able to concentrate on a decent amount of plays. I use only 2 formations Singleback and weak I (Only 1 play from the 2 back set, pull the fade route in and its money). Within those formations are deadly shifts in the SB and Weak I. SB bunch fade can be lethal in certain situations. I"ve labbed this play against zone and have had success. Here is the scenario: The D comes out in a nickel or dime zone. Sometimes after the snap the corner will take several steps forward (like running by the WR) towards the LOS, then the DB realizes its a pass and its to late. The safety generally doesn't get over in time and its a quick pass over the corners head. if there is an alley defender I tend to throw the lob. If there is no alley defender then its a bullet lead pass over or by the corner in the wideouts chest. Also I like to run this play on either side of the hash marks. If the ball is on the right hash, set your compressed side to the left and vice versa this gives you more room to operate.

Hope this helps,

[Kobra]

All the Weak I formations, Split Backs Flex Close, Singleback Big, Singleback Big Wing, Singleback Tight, Singleback Trips Bunch would be the formations I use the most.

[bobs2cents]

Hey Kobra - Question. Do you run the split backs with or with out form shifting? I used to use Det and Phillys PB, and I loved there Split Backs and near sets. I think that if Oaklands PB had Far and Near sets, it would be "the perfect PB".

Any tips on the Split Backs form from Oaklands PB?

[Kobra]

I like to run some plays right of the Split Backs Flex Close, but I also like to formation shift into the Singleback Tight and Singleback Trips Bunch where I can use motion to create mis matches or beat Bump-n-Run.

[bobs2cents]

Cool, thanks. I kinda' shy away from SB Tight. Not b/c I don't like it (I do) , but I just can't get good protection for routes to develope. Maybe I should just shorten my game. BTW, I love your (VG Sports) Guides. I own 3 for this year alone and the Film room. I refer back to them regularly. "My Madden Library." Keep up the good work.

[slvrNblck Rdr]

Cool, thanks. I kinda' shy away from SB Tight. Not b/c I don't like it (I do) , but I just can't get good protection for routes to develope...

If you mix some plays from Singleback Big and Wing by formation-shifting to the SE Tight formation, you have nice protection and running plays. (you must know by reading the Kobra's Raiders playbook, so just try those mix more often ;)

[BigB]

I was labbing the TE Fade play in ZONE. I would motion the TE to the right and hot route the FL on a streak and keeping the cone on the FL I would go throw to the TE who is now in the cone and he would not catch the ball...mostly the ball just went by him over his head. What am I doing wrong?


The key to the play is that you have to lab the route. When it's man coverage you have to throw the ball a certain way. If there are in zone you have to throw the ball a certain way. If someone sit on the route you have to throw it a certain way. You can use this play and a few others all game along as you can run the ball. I would had pointed this out, but Kobra has already did the write-up on the play. Oakland Playbook is pass lead sensitive. There are about 4 different types of pass leads you need to master in order to punish people. If you know how to pull certain routes and marry them to create mismatches you can do major damage with this book. Some of these things were listed and missed in the guide. So in regards to the post about the TE Fade you need to understand the pass lead. Once you get that down you will be killing people. Once My CPU get back up I will post these things in the filmroom. There is a lot to Oakland that isn't getting covered in the guide. I will release my plays in the filmroom explaing the pass leads and what not.

[bobs2cents]

slvrNblck Rdr
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobs2cents
Cool, thanks. I kinda' shy away from SB Tight. Not b/c I don't like it (I do) , but I just can't get good protection for routes to develope...

If you mix some plays from Singleback Big and Wing by formation-shifting to the SE Tight formation, you have nice protection and running plays. (you must know by reading the Kobra's Raiders playbook, so just try those mix more often

Yeah, I've been playing more with the Big sets, especially the Big Wing. I'll try to work in the form shifts like you said. Thanks.
I think that so many people are more aware of this PB, that it's time to break it down again and get some different angles.

[slvrNblck Rdr]

Yeah, I've been playing more with the Big sets, especially the Big Wing. I'll try to work in the form shifts like you said. Thanks.
I think that so many people are more aware of this PB, that it's time to break it down again and get some different angles.

yep, and GL to you, man. ;)

[Run N Gun]

Please help me... Dear fellow maddenaholics, My best friend Jeff and I are in year five of our franchise. Through this time we have lost about two friends to the high intensity and nature of this game... Each year we create one player for each of our teams that is an 85 ovr and we put them into free agency. So right now his team "Packers" are a 97 ovr as a team and my team "Bears" are a 96. But I can't seem to beat him... I have Gates at my TE whos is a 99 ovr, My QB is a 99 and has a 92 speed, My WR is a 99 and tall. and my back is an 87 but very quick. My second WR is Chad Johnson and he is a 99 also... I am running the Oakland playbook and a cover 2 defence. My offence is fine. But I would like to hear some of your sugestions on plays and formations that I should be running out of and also I run a cover 2 defence. On defence I have Dunta Robinson whos a 99 and pack man who is a 95 my 3rd corner is a 91 and my 4th is an 85. my LBs are all solid. 95 and above. and my Ends are good also. Is the cover 2 a good defence to be running agains a team that has a great back and TE? Please help. Also we are looking for cool people who live near LA and want to get into our 07 league. Also are there any leagues in LA? Thanks...

[bigpopaford]

if any1 want to lab this book send me a friend request

user name jfbest

[GodSon20]

Wud up fellas. Im kinda stumped on the HB checkdown play in the Singleback scheme section. How did you pull the fade route from the Bunch fade play into the HB checkdown play ?

[homerpsu]

hey i'm thinking about buying the book, my boys been trying for ages to start beating me and stopping me on defence... now he's found a team (the colts) that can out match me most of the time. i can't seem to stop his curl routes and such and i keep throwing interception after interception with the atlanta vicks.

also the page says:

Countering the Run/Pass Glitch...

does that mean the book will explain just how to recognise if someones attempting to use the glitch or even explain how to do the glitch itself?

[Kobra]

It shows several ways to counter the Run/Pass Glitch.

Kobra

[homerpsu]

It shows several ways to counter the Run/Pass Glitch.

Kobra

will it show how to use the actual glitches?

[homerpsu]

is there an option to buy the ebook and not the paper version of the book? imma noob and can't find it on the website

[Kobra]

will it show how to use the actual glitches?

It shows what it looks like.

Here is a link to sales page.

http://www.maddenguides.com/

Kobra

[homerpsu]

It shows what it looks like.

Here is a link to sales page.

http://www.maddenguides.com/

Kobra

i see the link.

i click "1. Click to order securely by credit card".

Now besides the submit button and the 3 check boxes, will it give me an option to buy an electronic version of the book i can download OR is there no choice but to buy a paper back version?

[gj6kings]

Having the correct personnal also helps with this playbook...you can run it with any team but against more savvy players it still comes down to playing to your teams roster strengths..in my opinion anyway...unless you play the cpu of course!

PEEP GAME (http://madden-nfl.com/)

[homerpsu]

hehe just realized there's a note saying its an electronic version of the book, that's what i was looking for! :P

bought the book, now i gotta run havoc with the falcons !!!

[Tadow904]

This my 2 cents Gents this book is very unique (no s##t) I've been using this book since December and I learned that this book is about pace just like Det Sea Tenn there all pace setting books. This book makes the D pick their poison if people want to look at icons thats cool I'll go to SB Wing or i'll hit the tight. As long i'm moving foward I'm good to go. But YOU dictate the pace of the game.

[GodSon20]

Anyone figure out a way to use these plays in the single back scheme in an order that will move the chains and at the same time dictate the coverages of the defense ?

[Honor]

This playbook has to much motion an to many audibles there are a lot formation audibles to. But still the playbook puts out some nice stuff.


PS. Next playbook try to make it where there not that many formation audibles. :o :D :D

[homerpsu]

using the falcons i use the raider's fade play from the singleback formation... as soon as i snap the ball i pump fake and wait for the left WR to get into his route, then up precision pass hard and he catches it 92% of the time with 15-20 yard gain. I actually counted up how many times i did it. the guy i used it on used the colts and tried every single defence he could but to no avail. Even got it on a 4th and 18 on him :P

[QBStokes4]

i got the BEST route in this book that nobody knows


i personally think i have the best Oakland PB offense. i didnt even buy the VG book either a haaaaaaaaa

[Cole]

i got the BEST route in this book that nobody knows


i personally think i have the best Oakland PB offense. i didnt even buy the VG book either a haaaaaaaaa
600 people are gonna be labbing OAK book tonight now...

[JugganauT34]

Can anybody tell me a great passing play in the oakland pb? it has some nice running plays but im not very good with the passing in it

[bigface]

Can anybody tell me a great passing play in the oakland pb? it has some nice running plays but im not very good with the passing in it


are you having trouble passing on man or zone?

[JugganauT34]

both... i normally just pass to my TE but wen i cant pass to him i really have no other passing plays and then ill run and do PA... i was wondering if theres like a play in the OAK PB that would work 90% of the time? off of formation shift or w.e

[RAZOR]

you need to lab this book especially the 3 wr formations

[bigface]

are you having trouble passing on man or zone?

Exactly you gotta try formation shifting 3 WR sets to the single back tight. If he comes out in man, try developing crossing routes. Simple is to playmaker your 2 inside receivers on drag routes and then formation shift to the tight. Against zone, Set up plays with the RB going out in the flats, a fly by the Flanker, and a corner route by the Slot, all on the same side of the field.

A good starting point is go into practice mode and just formation shift some of your favorite plays. This will make the play even more deadly when you see it in a different set. I think the problem is you want to turn on the game and play a head to head, and then come up with passing plays. Schemes and plays are developed in practice mode.

[Yanksluvr7]

if i could only get 1 guide, would you guys recommend the oakland guide, or the compression guide. ive heard so much good about both of them, and i really cant decide.

[Yanksluvr7]

i went with the oakland guide. im sure i wont be disappointed. i have bought stuff from you guys before and have always been very happy with the outstanding work you guys at vg do. i am about to look through it for the 1st time. i must say im very excited to get into it and start labbing. :D

[Titans 4 LIFE]

i went with the oakland guide. im sure i wont be disappointed. i have bought stuff from you guys before and have always been very happy with the outstanding work you guys at vg do. i am about to look through it for the 1st time. i must say im very excited to get into it and start labbing. :D
Its probably the best choice, I havent seen any of the guides but OAK is a very unique book so Im sure they were able to do alot with it

[GiantNFC7]

Its probably the best choice, I havent seen any of the guides but OAK is a very unique book so Im sure they were able to do alot with it

I bought the book when it came out and used it as my primary book ever since. Too many nice things you can do with this book. Also, I learned alot and can apply it to other stuff. I'm wondering what the 49er book will look like in '07.

[bigface]

I bought the book when it came out and used it as my primary book ever since. Too many nice things you can do with this book. Also, I learned alot and can apply it to other stuff. I'm wondering what the 49er book will look like in '07.


Yea I have the exact same questions. I was also stuck in the same situation of what book would be better for 07 and went with the oakland book. I like it, I know next year to start of the season looking at how plays look while formation shifting as well as route combos. 49ers are open in my league, but their lack of talent maybe too much to over come just for the book. Tampa Bay is open in our league, and they have some nice shifts in also.

[Yanksluvr7]

ok, i know im like the 18th person to ask this, but i can not for the life of me figure out how to pull that fade route. i saw before someone said to audible to the bunch fade play, smart route the fade, and cancel the audible, which i assumes means audible back to the original play, but when i do that i lose the fade route. so if someone could post exactly wat to do in ps2 terms or just pm me that would b awesome.

[bigface]

ok, i know im like the 18th person to ask this, but i can not for the life of me figure out how to pull that fade route. i saw before someone said to audible to the bunch fade play, smart route the fade, and cancel the audible, which i assumes means audible back to the original play, but when i do that i lose the fade route. so if someone could post exactly wat to do in ps2 terms or just pm me that would b awesome.

U on the box or ps2?

PS2

1) Have fade in your audibles
2) call a play (to get the hang of it call a play out of single back bunch or slot strong. atleast until you get the hang of it.)
3)audible to the play with fade in it
4) smart route the fade. (Tiangle, fade icon, down on Right analog)
5) hit the formation shift button (R1) and then hit cancel (L2)

new play should have the fade in it.

[Yanksluvr7]

thanks alot bigface. worked perfectly.:D

[R Moss 84]

Weak I Tight Twins is the best formation in this game PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!! Get your audibles and your unbumpable, your zone beaters too, and you'll score everytime.

[SuPeRfLyKiD]

Weak I Tight Twins is the best formation in this game PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!! Get your audibles and your unbumpable, your zone beaters too, and you'll score everytime.
Care to share what you do with the Tight Twins? I usually run Divide, but what else do you run from it?

[R Moss 84]

Care to share what you do with the Tight Twins? I usually run Divide, but what else do you run from it?

I'm not gonna share my whole scheme, but I'll share my unbumpable wit you....$$ when they are bumping (Raiders users will LOVE THIS):

1) put I - Form Normal WR Option as one of your audibles.
2) go to weak i tight twins and Sub out Anderson from TE and put him at FB. Put 92 speed Williams at TE.
3) Come out in Weak I Tight Twins - Divide
4) audible to I form-normal WR option
5) formation shift to SB Big wing
6) flip the play
7) now triangle (or Y) should be running the flat route. smart route it and it becomes unbumpable
8) form shift + cancel
9) now flip the play
10) Triangle(Y) is running the unbumpable towards the left sideline. it should be 92 speed Williams runnin it too.
11) Motion him out toward the sidelines to the left.
12) pumpfake middle, step up lob it to williams. he burnt his defender by like 5 yards for an easy TD.

and if you ask if they're manually controlling the safety to knock it down....then the retard is leaving moss and porter on the other side by themselves LMAO.

YOU CAN NO LONG BE BUMPED OUTTA THIS FORMATION.

This only takes 10 seconds to setup.....good luck. any questions ask them here.

[bigface]

thanks alot bigface. worked perfectly.:D

no problem, just passing on knowledge that was given to me.

[QBStokes4]

i got plays for days out of oakland book


Mad Dogg made the weak i twin tights sexxxy

[Yanksluvr7]

i thought ide give a shoutout to the boys at vg with an update on my post oakland playbook performance. im 6-2 since picking up the book. the 1st loss was because i got every bad break imagineable, and the 2nd loss was a shootout and my opponent just outscored me. for the 1st time im confident in my offense and it feels good. great work as always vg.

[stickskills1]

R_MOSS_84,

Good play, that TE with 93 speed really makes that play click. No LB can keep up with him.

[Yanksluvr7]

ok, so im a level 3 now, im playing a game against a 3-5 level 1 dude. he is terrible, i score a td, get a safety, and i score another td, as soon as i do, i lose my connection to my opponent, i dont think much of it, bc people do that all the time when they r getting killed, so i finish the remaining 2.5 quarters, and end up winning 33-3. the game ends and goes back to the menu, and i see ive been given a loss. more specifically i lost 15(me)-0(him). bc i was freaking winning. so i just want to throw out there that i am unspeakably pissed at this happening.

[krow3705]

Yo BERT,BIG B or KOBRA you guys made a mistake in the filmroom on the split backs mesh play.It's the same as the vertical are you going to fix it?I hope because it's info I wanted to learn about for 07 madden.
thanks just wanted you guys to know.

[thewood_14]

im no madden legend but got high hopes for 07, im gonna drop my ca$h money play from da raider book maybe you all ready know of it maybe you dont. im not claiming to be the founder of this play but when i came across the money play i added a few lil minor adjustments to it , that i feel made it even more lethal.... therefore renameing it to ca$h money.... anyway its late in 06 .... 07 is coming so here it is 1. put singleback bunch fade as one of your audiables....2. come out in singleback tight any play you run alot...3.audiable to bunch-fade....4.formation shift to back to singleback tight thats 6button then d.pad down....5.smart route #3 wr he is on rightside .....6...flip play 1 button then 8 button.....7.change slot wr route on left side to a streak thats button 4 button 4 again then d pad up.

now your set . ..notes....if defense is in zone its over... if in man they need fast *** cb's with 90+ jump to defend this...
also it helps to put your speed wr's in at #3 and #4 positions
after i re vamped this play with a few extra wrinkles, my qb has never been sacked.... you dont got to have great qb or be a great stick skill man for this play to be effective and you will see real quick who is gonna be wide *** open. for me 80% of time the wr on far left #1 wr... is usually gonna get some sweet seperation from the db....
well, go try it if you havent all rdy let me know what you think.....
i dont claim to be the founder of play but i did re configure play to git the ca$h money title. also i play at least 3 games a day every day in 06 and have never had it ran on me in the ca$h money set...go pratice it first... it want take u long till u memorize the buttons.
one more hint to make it more lethal save as long as u can ..... try to get good at the three running plays out of the singleback set run sevral plays from sb set before adminstering the ca$h money to your opp.

good luck please post results

[JugganauT34]

Exactly you gotta try formation shifting 3 WR sets to the single back tight. If he comes out in man, try developing crossing routes. Simple is to playmaker your 2 inside receivers on drag routes and then formation shift to the tight. Against zone, Set up plays with the RB going out in the flats, a fly by the Flanker, and a corner route by the Slot, all on the same side of the field.

A good starting point is go into practice mode and just formation shift some of your favorite plays. This will make the play even more deadly when you see it in a different set. I think the problem is you want to turn on the game and play a head to head, and then come up with passing plays. Schemes and plays are developed in practice mode.





What does "lab" mean? And what is "marrying" routes?

[ttuurrff]

Will it work well with the patriots.

[ThaSavage]

Hey Sully......you the same Sully from SML league?

[NezDogg]

This play is not in the new madden 07 for the Raiders. I used to use this play a lot. What are some other good playbooks?

[cew6225]

what teams would you consider running this playbook with
he's offsides ding bat.look at the ball.

[freonsmurf]

I like the guide, but the lack of formation shifts means I can only use half of the tips from the guide.

Is there a 360 specific guide coming out that helps with running compression WITHOUT formation shifts and other features that are not on the 360?

[nightmovs]

the seattle book has the fades. not as effective as last tho. thats ok time to learn something else anyways

[NOBA11S]

so has ne1 discovered how 2 prevent the deep ball or a defensive playbook tht wuld help?!?!?

[FW Grizwald]

so has ne1 discovered how 2 prevent the deep ball or a defensive playbook tht wuld help?!?!?

Yeah take control of one of the safeties

[RAZOR]

I still like this PB it aint about 1 fade route

[FW Grizwald]

I still like this PB it aint about 1 fade route

I just got hip to this playbook when 07 came out and I love it. It has so much versatility.

[NFC Bears NFC]

Question for Kobra,,, or anyone that may know...

I have been using VG for 3 years now, and have loved what it has done for my game. I'm not a fantastic Offensive player, but I love playing D, and boy does it help.

This year, I do not see the Play Call Sheets? In your intro page, prior to ordering, it said that the sheets were in there, and were new this year, being filled in with sitiational yardage plays. Where do I now find?

I also forgot this one.,, I put in my Email address, for the tips from VG, Is the VG Sports Messenger still working? Nothing this year so far in it, or my email like in the past., no coupons this year either??