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sony124

02-12-2006, 09:31 PM

Have any of you ever noticed any glitches pop up every now and then in ranking of the top 25 teams. For the most part from what I have seen it seems to be pretty accurate.

I like to keep track of the yearly rankings and write them down on paper because I like to do this thing on my own where I rank the top 25 programs of the decade. Anyway last year the rankings seemed alright and good until the final poll when a 4-7 Kansas team all of a sudden appeared at #25. I had to look into it a bit to see if there was any reason why it may have been that way because the year before a 6-6 Iowa team finished #19. But I looked at their schedule and they had beaten like 4-5 top 25 teams (and three of them were in the top 10) so that made since after I saw that. But when I started investigating Kansas they hadn't beaten anybody who was ranked (and very few with a winning record either) so there was no reason they should have been ranked #25.

So when I looked at the other receiving votes for the coaches poll I noticed that Florida had the top number of votes on that list and in the media poll Florida was in fact #25 (who was a respectable 7-5 for a #25 ranking). So on my list I wrote down I just replaced Kansas with Florida at #25.

Have any of you guys ever noticed any glitches pop-up like that every now and then with the rankings. That is the first one I ever really noticed that seemed out of place.

eddiebluedevil

02-13-2006, 01:22 AM

how do you see others recieving votes?

the polls are complete bull**** to me. i always have major problems with this. last season i played the #2 #4 and #6 teams in the first 3 weeks and beat them all. i only moved up to about 20 after beating the 3rd one. michigan was 0-2 after the first 2 weeks and #12 i was 2-0 #24 in one poll ur in the other. i won the rest of my games and stayed behind them all until a 3rd loss. (iowa michigan and florida were the teams) i jumped from 6-2 after the conf champ games.

the bcs formula is screwed because the entire top 10 often has a 1.000 so it comes down to the human polls every time. a few years back they had it perfect with quality wins and sos (but then again they also ****ed the real one up too)

kevin21boston

02-13-2006, 01:58 AM

you see the others recieveing votes by pressing either Y (xbox) or triangle.

sony124

02-13-2006, 02:06 AM

I think it has something to do with how much of a mainstay the team has been in the polls in the past. I noticed this in the '03 version and I assume it would be the same in the '06 version. If a team has been a perenial top 10-20 team for several years and they happen to have a down year they will more than likely drop down rather slowly. Where as a team who has not been a consistent top team for very long (and they happen to have a down year) they will free fall down the polls.

The same I think can be said of entering into the polls. A team that was a consistent power who happened to have a down year the previous season but has started winning again will often enter back in rather quickly. Where as a team who doesn't have much history of being in the polls will enter into the top 25 a bit more slowly.

guitarchtitect

02-13-2006, 12:09 PM

phrozzy

02-13-2006, 01:22 PM

Well i have notice something when playing. And it happen to USC this last year too. I start off #1. Keep playing and never loose, but some how go down to #2 or even on rare occasions #3. Now this just seems stupid, because if you come in #1 and havnt lost, you deserve to stay #1. RIGHT?

I just had that happen to me. I was #1 all year and colorado was a very close second. They played #4 Nebraska the same week I played Georgia who was unranked. It was a close game between them and Colorado came out on top while I just obliterated Georgia. The following week, the Coaches gave CO more first place votes (i think like 5 more than me) and they took the top spot but I remained on top in the media.
So I guess u and i dropped because more coaches believe that #2 played well enough for them to change their votes. At least the AP got it right who's top dog.

chrisbzn832

02-13-2006, 05:23 PM

I see come abnormailities here and there, but two seasons ago I was absolutely floored by the voting, both coaches and media. Miami played a tough schedule in the ACC, beat 5 top 25 teams, and went undefeated. Michigan played a sh*t schedule (the Big 10 was aweful that year) wailed on everyone, but lost a game to Indiana of all schools. Who did the polls vote #2, Michigan of course. Who ended up as the #4 nod-MIAMI! Not only did the polls and the BCS screw them out of a national title shot, they knocked them down to #4 and they were 12-0. The #3 slot went to an Auburn squad with one loss; an a$$ whooping I dished out in the SEC Title game. Sometime I think that EA does this crap on purpose.

sony124

02-13-2006, 09:50 PM

I think that all has to do with the whole strength of schedule thing they have added into the system which creates the polls.

Has anybody had a situation happen to them that I stated before where a team with a losing record (like Kansas was at 4-7) was ranked at the end of the year.

mstaple

02-14-2006, 03:53 AM

I do not recall anyone with a losing recored in the top 25 but I'll pay more attention to it. I usually look at the top 10 and kind of scan the rest real quickly.

TheRaven

02-17-2006, 02:39 PM

I think that another factor is your recruiting class but I'm not sure yet.

sony124

02-17-2006, 05:16 PM

That would have something to do with the preseason rankings but not the final rankings at the end of the season though.

MetalGuitarist

02-18-2006, 02:25 PM