Anyone ever run into this?

[GiantNFC7]

I'm playing a dude today with the Giants and he picks the Chiefs. I'm pretty sure he's using the Tennessee book and always came out in a Singleback big wing formation. After a bunch of shifting for like 10-12 seconds he hikes the ball and hits his guys perfectly on fades with absolutely no one covering either in the SE or FL spot. I always set my defense after the guy finishedaudibling or what not but it was crazy how much separation he had....everytime. I started to play diff D formations and different positioning for my CBs but he had me everytime. When he wasnt throwing it to an open Hall in the SE or FL slot then he was hitting Gonzo with double coverage. I had no answer, just sucked it up and took the loss. On defense he played a Bear 46 and nanoed the hell out of me all game. I looked at his record and it looks like he blew out opponents, I at least kept him honest.

[AquaInferno]

I'm playing a dude today with the Giants and he picks the Chiefs. I'm pretty sure he's using the Tennessee book and always came out in a Singleback big wing formation. After a bunch of shifting for like 10-12 seconds he hikes the ball and hits his guys perfectly on fades with absolutely no one covering either in the SE or FL spot. I always set my defense after the guy finishedaudibling or what not but it was crazy how much separation he had....everytime. I started to play diff D formations and different positioning for my CBs but he had me everytime. When he wasnt throwing it to an open Hall in the SE or FL slot then he was hitting Gonzo with double coverage. I had no answer, just sucked it up and took the loss. On defense he played a Bear 46 and nanoed the hell out of me all game. I looked at his record and it looks like he blew out opponents, I at least kept him honest.


That sucks man, I hate playing cornballs. I played a Jill fan recently and he was doing the whole come out in one formation everytime, then audible to the same play. The only thing is, he sucked and that play he kept running did nothing and he ended up quitting on me. Then called ME the cheater..

[warren123]

ranger u wanna go online

[GiantNFC7]

In a little bit Warren, how does 6 sound?

[AquaInferno]

I'm playing a dude today with the Giants and he picks the Chiefs. I'm pretty sure he's using the Tennessee book and always came out in a Singleback big wing formation. After a bunch of shifting for like 10-12 seconds he hikes the ball and hits his guys perfectly on fades with absolutely no one covering either in the SE or FL spot. I always set my defense after the guy finishedaudibling or what not but it was crazy how much separation he had....everytime. I started to play diff D formations and different positioning for my CBs but he had me everytime. When he wasnt throwing it to an open Hall in the SE or FL slot then he was hitting Gonzo with double coverage. I had no answer, just sucked it up and took the loss. On defense he played a Bear 46 and nanoed the hell out of me all game. I looked at his record and it looks like he blew out opponents, I at least kept him honest.

Does anyone think this sorta thing is suspect besides me? I mean it's borderline cheating IMO, if not over the border and flat out cheating.. Why not just run the damn play instead of audibling into it everytime? I don't know, but I know I don't like it.

[Sean Jay]

if the guy took the time to practice his scheme long enough to be able to run it to perfection then i dont see what the big deal is

[AquaInferno]

if the guy took the time to practice his scheme long enough to be able to run it to perfection then i dont see what the big deal is

And this is where I disagree, you mean his scheme of discovering coming out of this and audibling to this leave player X wide open? I played this one girl, yes a girl, in 04 and she came out of a punt with Peyton Manning as the punter, audibled, and then guess what, everytime Marvin Harrison was wide the **** open, even when I put Surtain AND Madison on him... That is im - ****ing - possible!

[GiantNFC7]

if the guy took the time to practice his scheme long enough to be able to run it to perfection then i dont see what the big deal is


No something was way off. I was playing a 4-3 under defense with the CBs off and my FS and SS manually up to the line. I eventually put my FS and SS in purples for the throwing lanes but after his audibling his SE and FL and much separation. This is also with my pressing triangle up to back up my CBs. Something was off, i've played many games online to know that something wasn't right. I've been blown out before by pure stick. This guy had a trick.

[warren123]

Does anyone think this sorta thing is suspect besides me? I mean it's borderline cheating IMO, if not over the border and flat out cheating.. Why not just run the damn play instead of audibling into it everytime? I don't know, but I know I don't like it.

cause someone is wide open? im sure it can be stopped

[GAV]

No something was way off. I was playing a 4-3 under defense with the CBs off and my FS and SS manually up to the line. I eventually put my FS and SS in purples for the throwing lanes but after his audibling his SE and FL and much separation. This is also with my pressing triangle up to back up my CBs. Something was off, i've played many games online to know that something wasn't right. I've been blown out before by pure stick. This guy had a trick.
Flip your defense before he hikes. Trust me. ;)

[AquaInferno]

cause someone is wide open? im sure it can be stopped

I'm telling you, I focused STICTLY on Harrison and he was still open, we're talkin Madden 04, king of glitches. It was a glitch end of story. Pat Surtain and Sam Madison were a deadly duo in Madden 04, if the 2 of them on Harrison backed way the **** off couldn't stop it, then nothin could.

[warren123]

I'm telling you, I focused STICTLY on Harrison and he was still open, we're talkin Madden 04, king of glitches. It was a glitch end of story. Pat Surtain and Sam Madison were a deadly duo in Madden 04, if the 2 of them on Harrison backed way the **** off couldn't stop it, then nothin could.

i wasnt talking about that im talking about what the other guy posted

[Sean Jay]

No something was way off. I was playing a 4-3 under defense with the CBs off and my FS and SS manually up to the line. I eventually put my FS and SS in purples for the throwing lanes but after his audibling his SE and FL and much separation. This is also with my pressing triangle up to back up my CBs. Something was off, i've played many games online to know that something wasn't right. I've been blown out before by pure stick. This guy had a trick.

Trinagle up only works for the safeties and not the corners and it only works if the safeties are in a deep Zone( dark blue.)...and if he was getting that much separation then you should have just manned the safeties up on the WRS and bump the corners with inside shade and played the Te manually with a LB or a Lineman

[AquaInferno]

i wasnt talking about that im talking about what the other guy posted

Sorry I got ahead of myself, I just saw you quoted me, just didn't read which quote. I hate cornballs with a passion and sometimes that passion leads to endless rants.

[BK Arsonist]

Does anyone think this sorta thing is suspect besides me? I mean it's borderline cheating IMO, if not over the border and flat out cheating.. Why not just run the damn play instead of audibling into it everytime? I don't know, but I know I don't like it.


Please explain how this is cheating? If I come out in IForm Close every play, audible and form shift back, how in the world is that cheating? man up and play ball!!!!

I don't care what you do on offense or defense... It's my job to score and stop you from scoring...

[AquaInferno]

Please explain how this is cheating? If I come out in IForm Close every play, audible and form shift back, how in the world is that cheating.... man up and play ball?

And in the NFL teams come out of one formation EVERY time, and then run the same audible everytime so AI can **** up and they can get freebie yards? Is this manning up? And by manning up I don't mean Peyton, legit audibles. I'm talkin cornball ****, cornball **** you are defending now.

[BK Arsonist]

And in the NFL teams come out of one formation EVERY time, and then run the same audible everytime so AI can **** up and they can get freebie yards? Is this manning up? And by manning up I don't mean Peyton, legit audibles. I'm talkin cornball ****, cornball **** you are defending now.

Have you ever lost a game online? Ever run into a defense that you have trouble beating? I bet the person you were playing sat in that D until you proved you could move the ball against it; how is that cheating? Stop making excuses and stop comparing a VIDEO game to what happens on Sundays....

Stop wearin' your sisters panties

[AquaInferno]

Have you ever lost a game online? Ever run into a defense that you have trouble beating? I bet the person you were playing sat in that D until you proved you could move the ball against it; how is that cheating? Stop making excuses and stop comparing a VIDEO game to what happens on Sundays....

Stop wearin' your sisters panties

OK cock lick, listen, running one formation or one play is NOT cheating. Get it got it good? OK Let's go, next point... Running a 2 WR every down, running to the line, NOT even looking at the other person's D before audibling to whatever the **** play the cornball is running that is cheap. Why not call that play at the screen, why do you NEED to audible to it? If that's not funny, then tell me what is.

[Titans 4 LIFE]

Trinagle up only works for the safeties and not the corners and it only works if the safeties are in a deep Zone( dark blue.)...and if he was getting that much separation then you should have just manned the safeties up on the WRS and bump the corners with inside shade and played the Te manually with a LB or a Lineman
naaaaaah it makes CBs back up too
he was probably just coming out in one set, formation shifting to a set with a fade, mirroring it then formation shifting again. Just manualy position your guys to the outside and with a little user its an easy pick.
Or hes coming out in a play with a fade then pulling an unbumpable FB route and formation shifting. Its all about manual skills when trying to stop it

[Titans 4 LIFE]

OK cock lick, listen, running one formation or one play is NOT cheating. Get it got it good? OK Let's go, next point... Running a 2 WR every down, running to the line, NOT even looking at the other person's D before audibling to whatever the **** play the cornball is running that is cheap. Why not call that play at the screen, why do you NEED to audible to it? If that's not funny, then tell me what is.
wow no offense but you have no idea what your talking about
what funny is not being able to stop the same play over and over again, I think you would have to try NOT to stop the play for that to happen

[AquaInferno]

wow no offense but you have no idea what your talking about
what funny is not being able to stop the same play over and over again, I think you would have to try NOT to stop the play for that to happen

Ok I've stopped these guys before, but I think it's funny that they do it. It's very suspect. You have no idea what YOU'RE talkin about cause you have no idea who I've played online and what they've done now do you?

[BK Arsonist]

OK cock lick, listen, running one formation or one play is NOT cheating. Get it got it good? OK Let's go, next point... Running a 2 WR every down, running to the line, NOT even looking at the other person's D before audibling to whatever the **** play the cornball is running that is cheap. Why not call that play at the screen, why do you NEED to audible to it? If that's not funny, then tell me what is.


you moron... I can come out in a bunch to get a man/zone read... or I could be working on a particular formation.... either way it's not cheating or corny... I notice that something is always cheezy or lame when you can't stop it...

Stalling someone and icon watching is lame.... but calling a play ala singleback trips bunch, audibling to SB Big TE cross and then form shifting back to Trips bunch is not cheating you pillow biter.... If you knew anything about the game you'd understand that maybe running a play from a different formation increases its effectiveness.

[Titans 4 LIFE]

Ok I've stopped these guys before, but I think it's funny that they do it. It's very suspect. You have no idea what YOU'RE talkin about cause you have no idea who I've played online and what they've done now do you?
Trust me, lol ive played people who pull fades into Fake FG, who qb draw every down, unbumpable routes, pump fakes, CBs at WR, punt D, audible to FG to pinch line and QB draw, 3 angled fades, curls, everything. There is nothing in this game that cant be stopped and it does no good to whine about how your opponent plays.

[GiantNFC7]

naaaaaah it makes CBs back up too
he was probably just coming out in one set, formation shifting to a set with a fade, mirroring it then formation shifting again. Just manualy position your guys to the outside and with a little user its an easy pick.
Or hes coming out in a play with a fade then pulling an unbumpable FB route and formation shifting. Its all about manual skills when trying to stop it

His fullback was a non factor in the game. I've been owned user wise before but this was a bit different. They ran some route where it seems my CBs froze for a second and he had much separation for the high bullet fade. I would consider myself a decent player but what was alarming was the amount of separation. I dont even think it was a fade playmaker it was more like the highlight R3 up fade. It took him about 20 seconds or so to set up the play so obviously he was tweaking something. I'm not even crying about being 'glitched'. I'm just interested if anyone else had the same experience that I have had today.

[Titans 4 LIFE]

His fullback was a non factor in the game. I've been owned user wise before but this was a bit different. They ran some route where it seems my CBs froze for a second and he had much separation for the high bullet fade. I would consider myself a decent player but what was alarming was the amount of separation. I dont even think it was a fade playmaker it was more like the highlight R3 up fade. It took him about 20 seconds or so to set up the play so obviously he was tweaking something. I'm not even crying about being 'glitched'. I'm just interested if anyone else had the same experience that I have had today.
Its the FB route, they pull it so the WR is running the FB flat route and it is unbumpable. its kinda like an angled fade just not as far deep and cant be bumped. if they bump the CB just stands there

[AquaInferno]

you moron... I can come out in a bunch to get a man/zone read... or I could be working on a particular formation.... either way it's not cheating or corny... I notice that something is always cheezy or lame when you can't stop it...

Stalling someone and icon watching is lame.... but calling a play ala singleback trips bunch, audibling to SB Big TE cross and then form shifting back to Trips bunch is not cheating you pillow biter.... If you knew anything about the game you'd understand that maybe running a play from a different formation increases its effectiveness.

OK, whatever this is going no where fast, sorry I stooped to your immature level of name calling. Grow the **** up. And don't say I started nothin. And no I'm not sorry for calling you a cock lick, I care about your feelings as much as I care for NFL 2K5. Dammit, this was a debate that turned into a name calling fest because I think it's suspect that certain people can't run the play, just run the ****in play.

[AquaInferno]

His fullback was a non factor in the game. I've been owned user wise before but this was a bit different. They ran some route where it seems my CBs froze for a second and he had much separation for the high bullet fade. I would consider myself a decent player but what was alarming was the amount of separation. I dont even think it was a fade playmaker it was more like the highlight R3 up fade. It took him about 20 seconds or so to set up the play so obviously he was tweaking something. I'm not even crying about being 'glitched'. I'm just interested if anyone else had the same experience that I have had today.

Don't matter man, according to some of these people in this thread ****in with your AI means YOU suck. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

[BK Arsonist]

OK, whatever this is going no where fast, sorry I stooped to your immature level of name calling. Grow the **** up. And don't say I started nothin. And no I'm not sorry for calling you a cock lick, I care about your feelings as much as I care for NFL 2K5. Dammit, this was a debate that turned into a name calling fest because I think it's suspect that certain people can't run the play, just run the ****in play.

lol.... We all know you're garbage

[BK Arsonist]

Forgot to mention that you could be pulling routes because a more experienced player may not be looking for say an angle fade out of shotgun, but it's all good... It's just Madden... It's not that serious

[stickskills1]

Yep, I"ve done it, usually when the offense comes out in a 3 wide set and my nb is on the opposite side of the field then I'll flip it. Gav, what situtations do you flip? Sometimes I'll flip when I have a blitzer originally lined up on the strong side but I want him to blitz off the short side of the hash mark.