Online Zone Coverages

[I OU aBeatn]

I posted this over at Utopia as well, however, I'd like to get as many responses/opinions as possible.

I have multiple views on zone coverages. I have cut this, sure to be lengthy, post into 2 parts--from my perspective on offense and defense.

Offensively
--When I have the ball and my opponent runs zone against me.

I have had major problems with beating zone coverages this year online. I absolutely hate it when someone goes all out zone versus me(Cover 3, Cover 4) because it seems like the defense has 20 guys on the field. The deep ball is just about the only way I've seen to consistanly beat it, but I absolutely refuse to chuck bombs every play. It's lame and I play the game for realism, not just to win--although I do hate to lose. It's very touchy throwing short passes over the middle because of the LBs, and even though post routes do work, they are also very touchy. If you don't time it perfectly and throw it in the perfect spot which a great amount of touch, the LB seemingly always jumps up for a "miraculous pick." This really bugs me.

Then you have when they brings blitzes and play zones behind it. Every game I've lost, my opponent has done this. I don't really have alot of time to go through all of my progressions, and I usually throw a pick or an errant pass. This is especially difficult when they drop defensive lineman into coverage, which is where 75% of my picks come from. I don't see them and throw a crossing pattern, and before I know it they pop out of nowhere and pick me off. Anyone else notice these things, and if so, what do you do to beat these types of zone coverages?

Defensively
--When my opponent has the ball and I run zone.

I cannot run zone coverages on this game. I get burnt deep pretty much everytime I do. I have major problems getting the ball downfield when people run Quarter Cover 3 versus me. As I said, it looks like the defense has 20 guys in coverage. However, when I run it against other people, I absolutely get lit the **** up. I haven't run alot of zone since '04 when I ran it pretty much exclusively(until I played HH and has to change my method of thinking). I didn't run it at all in '05, and only ran it in '06 when I absolutely had to. I often like to bring zone blitzes because of the way they confuse me, but they don't seem to do so to my opponent. Often times they just snap the ball, look and see it's zone, and rip that ***** 50 yards downfield. It is especially frustrating since the user pick isn't as effective as it has been in recent years. I want to be able to run a zone coverage, and not give up 50 yards on the deep ball in the process. Anyone run a zone-orriented defense that is successful? It's weird that I struggle against them offensively, but I cannot run a zone defense to save me life.

Screwing around in practice mode, zone coverages can be quite an ache to move the ball effectively through the air on. The defense reacts to quickly and the WRs don't ever sit down in the holes of the zone, making it that much harder. Anyway, any suggestions and/or thoughts would be much appreciated.

[djwill13]

Ah, my specialty. I think many will say that I have one of the best pure zone defenses in the game. The key to me using it effectively is to consistantly switch up what I'm doing. I try not to get into tendencies like playing cover 2 on first down, then going with a zone blitz on 2nd down then cover 3 on 3rd down. Switch up your coverages.

Also, when running zone's, you have to realize what your weakness is. If you're on defense, you want to mask that weakness or disguise your coverage as much as possible. I may flip the play when running cover 3 to make you think that my safety on one particular side is playing the short route when in fact he's playing deep. Little things like that can mess with people's heads. Mixing up your personnel (sorry if I mis-spelled that, somebody tell me how to spell it lol) helps out a lot too.

From an offensive standpoint, figure out what they are doing. I tend to watch the safeties from the middle in. If one of the safeties drop, it's cover 3. Seem routes, drags, digs, and flat routes away from that particular safety are things you should key on. If both safeties drop deep, it's either cover 2 or cover 4. All sorts of things beat that, you just have to know what to look for.

Beating the zone blitz: Simple, throw it from where they are blitzing from. I know that sounds easy in theory, but pay attention to what your opponent is doing. Most people run the same type of blitzes. For instance, if someone goes dime, you can rest assured bet that if they blitz, it's going to Dime Hulk 2. Flags and screens kill it.

[heavy_hitter]

Honestly, I see it as a playbook problem more than anything else.

Are you running strictly SG again?

I ran into this problem last year so I learned to play more under center. When you are playing under center, there is more of a threat of a run. You will also see alot more blitzes. I kind of lick my chops when I see the blitzes because I can tear them up. However, if someone sends 8 into coverage, you have to have the ability to burn them. Hit them with alot of PA Reads and passes.

[djwill13]

Another suggestion I have would be this:

Pick a play and make your pre snap reads. Make sure you have one check down to player. You'll usually want your shortest route to be your "hot" (hot as in if you read blitz, throw it to him) reciever. From there, recognize if your facing man or zone. I'm pretty sure you know how to beat man, so I'll focus more on zone. If it's zone, consider what you're facing. I'll use this as an example:

Georgia playbook, strong I twins - deep comeback.

This is one of my favorite plays, and is really hard to defend. If you feel zone, first read is the back to the flats, that's your hot man. If you don't feel blitz, watch the safety on the left side of the field. If he drops deep, I can almost garuntee you that the comeback route (unless he flips cover 3) will be open. If not (or he's doubled), look for the post quickly. Last read should be the TE over the middle. Try it out and let me know what you think.

[I OU aBeatn]

Honestly, I see it as a playbook problem more than anything else.

Are you running strictly SG again?

I ran into this problem last year so I learned to play more under center. When you are playing under center, there is more of a threat of a run. You will also see alot more blitzes. I kind of lick my chops when I see the blitzes because I can tear them up. However, if someone sends 8 into coverage, you have to have the ability to burn them. Hit them with alot of PA Reads and passes.

Yeah, for the most part. I go IForm when I'm really struggling to move the ball, but I go shotgun probably 4 out of 5 times. The problem with going under center is what has always kept me from going under center in all the other games: blitzes like Nickel Fire Green.

[djwill13]

Yeah, for the most part. I go IForm when I'm really struggling to move the ball, but I go shotgun probably 4 out of 5 times. The problem with going under center is what has always kept me from going under center in all the other games: blitzes like Nickel Fire Green.
JJ, there are plays that completely destroy thunder and fire green. Just experiment a little and you'd be surprised. Focus more on your slot WR's. You'd be surprised to see the natural pick routes that occur when people run blitzes like that with bump and run.

[th3 Midnighter]

Some awesome help here guys. I find I am getting beat way deep in the PA pass. My safeties seem to bite on the PA alot and the CB can never keep up. I played one guy online who I would stop cold 1st and 2nd and the PA pass worked for him almost every time. His top receiver had 3 catches for 178 yds and 3 TDs. Even when I play manually with the SS, I cant keep up with the WR.

[K Freeman]

I posted this over at Utopia as well, however, I'd like to get as many responses/opinions as possible.

I have multiple views on zone coverages. I have cut this, sure to be lengthy, post into 2 parts--from my perspective on offense and defense.

Offensively
--When I have the ball and my opponent runs zone against me.

I have had major problems with beating zone coverages this year online. I absolutely hate it when someone goes all out zone versus me(Cover 3, Cover 4) because it seems like the defense has 20 guys on the field. The deep ball is just about the only way I've seen to consistanly beat it, but I absolutely refuse to chuck bombs every play. It's lame and I play the game for realism, not just to win--although I do hate to lose. It's very touchy throwing short passes over the middle because of the LBs, and even though post routes do work, they are also very touchy. If you don't time it perfectly and throw it in the perfect spot which a great amount of touch, the LB seemingly always jumps up for a "miraculous pick." This really bugs me.

Then you have when they brings blitzes and play zones behind it. Every game I've lost, my opponent has done this. I don't really have alot of time to go through all of my progressions, and I usually throw a pick or an errant pass. This is especially difficult when they drop defensive lineman into coverage, which is where 75% of my picks come from. I don't see them and throw a crossing pattern, and before I know it they pop out of nowhere and pick me off. Anyone else notice these things, and if so, what do you do to beat these types of zone coverages?

Defensively
--When my opponent has the ball and I run zone.

I cannot run zone coverages on this game. I get burnt deep pretty much everytime I do. I have major problems getting the ball downfield when people run Quarter Cover 3 versus me. As I said, it looks like the defense has 20 guys in coverage. However, when I run it against other people, I absolutely get lit the **** up. I haven't run alot of zone since '04 when I ran it pretty much exclusively(until I played HH and has to change my method of thinking). I didn't run it at all in '05, and only ran it in '06 when I absolutely had to. I often like to bring zone blitzes because of the way they confuse me, but they don't seem to do so to my opponent. Often times they just snap the ball, look and see it's zone, and rip that ***** 50 yards downfield. It is especially frustrating since the user pick isn't as effective as it has been in recent years. I want to be able to run a zone coverage, and not give up 50 yards on the deep ball in the process. Anyone run a zone-orriented defense that is successful? It's weird that I struggle against them offensively, but I cannot run a zone defense to save me life.

Screwing around in practice mode, zone coverages can be quite an ache to move the ball effectively through the air on. The defense reacts to quickly and the WRs don't ever sit down in the holes of the zone, making it that much harder. Anyway, any suggestions and/or thoughts would be much appreciated.

One tactic that I have been working on is having multiple coverage beaters in a play. For example on one side have pass combinations that beat Cover two and on the other side have a combination that beats cover 3. You can do the same thing and have one side as a man beater and the othe side a zone beater. Many teams do this and that way you can feel confident in your passing game. Also you may not be able to get through your reads if you are using a static read progression. By "static" I mean that you pick a certain play and you always progress in the order of X > Y > Z >RB. When you play like this all your opponent has to to do is shut off your first two reads by putting players in those zones and then throwing in a blitz with it. Try having a particular key to tell you which way you should read your progression and you will not have to go through so many reads. For example I always look at what I call the deep box when facing a zone. Its the area about the width of the 5 O-linemen and about 15 yds deep. I focus on that for the first two steps of my dropback. If I see a safety move into that area I read my progression on the side that he vacated. If the middle stays open I read routes that are in the middle of the field. I can explain more if it doesnt make sense. But IMO reading the coverage to determine which way you should read your progressions is the best way to go.

Ill have to get back with you on defensive suggestions.

[Isaiah34]

Well one thing in this game that is always open against any zone defense unless it is a zone/man combo is the flat route against the short side of the field.

It doesn't matter if there is only one WR in the area the CB or the LB will back off at least 5 yards. If you wait for the route to settle, you can throw it there for an easy 5 yard gain consistently. I wish you could tell the defense to play that flat more aggressively but they don't.

In light of that, a great play is a curl route with the outside WR and a flat route from the slot to the short side of the field. You read the curl route and if a LB drops underneath it you know it's zone and the flat will be open it. If there is no one underneath the curl its man and the curl route is almost money against man coverage if you time it right.

Also, a simple tactic is to flood the zones. Nearly all zones are weak against that. For example I like to run a RB to a flat and have the outside WR streak and the slot WR go corner. If its cover 3, the CB sticks to the streak and the LB either is going to drop to cover the corner or get up on the flat. One of those will be open. If its cover two, the safety has to honor the streak and again the corner back will have to take either the corner route or the flat route. A flat Cover 4 with the safeties playing 1/2 zones, not 1/4s -- and the LBs in the flats is the only zone I've found that really counters that type of flood.

[heavy_hitter]

JJ, there are plays that completely destroy thunder and fire green. Just experiment a little and you'd be surprised. Focus more on your slot WR's. You'd be surprised to see the natural pick routes that occur when people run blitzes like that with bump and run.

This is true. As well as the slide protection pinch feature which helps out against defenses like those.

JJ, I am using the pistol offense. You might want to try it out. It is really sweet man, especially if you are playing with a team that has a couple of decent TE's.

[I OU aBeatn]

This is true. As well as the slide protection pinch feature which helps out against defenses like those.

JJ, I am using the pistol offense. You might want to try it out. It is really sweet man, especially if you are playing with a team that has a couple of decent TE's.

Before last night, I had never even seen it. However, one of the games I played last night, the guy was using it. He used Oregon so he just rolled and chucked, but that's besides the point. It looks really weird(the position of the QB). After the game I went into practice mode and was just screwing around, and I kind of like it. I'm not nearly comfortable enough with it yet to take it online, and probably wont be for awhile. I guarentee you I'll be using it eventually.

Alot of my problem was that I hadn't even touched '06 since mid-January, so everything was new and the new things were REALLY new. I'm finally starting to get my reads down, AND my ability to user pick--which should allow me to run zone coverages. I rolled with Eastern Michigan playbook last night, and wow. I actually pitied the 2 guys I played. Scored 35 in the first game and gave mercy at the half, then second I poured in 52 in 3 quarters before he finally quit.

[tarheelbigdog]

As you can see I do not post hardly at all, but I read the writeups everyday. You guys have improved my game from just reading your posts and then I go practice all of the little tricks and nuances of the game. This is a great forum and I will continue to improve because of you guys. thanks a bunch.

Texastarheel is my online name. Hope to play you guys soon.

[I OU aBeatn]

This is true. As well as the slide protection pinch feature which helps out against defenses like those.

JJ, I am using the pistol offense. You might want to try it out. It is really sweet man, especially if you are playing with a team that has a couple of decent TE's.

..and by the way, I think it's about time that we renew the "Annual HH ownage of JJ" series, don't you think?;)

I'll probably be on all night.

[userskills7]

I rolled with Eastern Michigan playbook last night, and wow. I actually pitied the 2 guys I played. Scored 35 in the first game and gave mercy at the half, then second I poured in 52 in 3 quarters before he finally quit.



Did you pity the guy that you timeout glitched down like 30? I think his name was reid. I played him awhile ago and he played me fair. He sent a group message to his buddy list saying that you "double loss" glitched him and sure enough you both have a loss to a game that he was up big. He also said that you enjoy AB but that it was easy to beat.

[I OU aBeatn]

Did you pity the guy that you timeout glitched down like 30? I think his name was reid. I played him awhile ago and he played me fair. He sent a group message to his buddy list saying that you "double loss" glitched him and sure enough you both have a loss to a game that he was up big. He also said that you enjoy AB but that it was easy to beat.

Lmfao, you want to see the "fair" stats from that game? I think DJ and HH will back me up on this one since I was telling them about this last night. 9/21 450 yards. I didn't glitch him, you better bet your *** I was going to try, but sadly..the server disconnected us both. What a pity, really. As for ABing, yes I did. Any cocksmoking fag who scrambles back 30 yards then chucks bombs to his impact WRs all game deserves it. Also, I'd almost be willing to bet $50 you have played him before, because my best guess is that is was you.

..and if I ever run into your little scrubby *** again, you'll be wishing I never came across this message board.

[userskills7]

Lmfao, you want to see the "fair" stats from that game? I think DJ and HH will back me up on this one since I was telling them about this last night. 9/21 450 yards. I didn't glitch him, you better bet your *** I was going to try, but sadly..the server disconnected us both. What a pity, really. As for ABing, yes I did. Any cocksmoking fag who scrambles back 30 yards then chucks bombs to his impact WRs all game deserves it. Also, I'd almost be willing to bet $50 you have played him before, because my best guess is that is was you.

..and if I ever run into your little scrubby *** again, you'll be wishing I never came across this message board.



lol no I am not "Reid"...my name was DontCryAllGm2, but i had to delete it because the server gave me 4 losses while up big and i got timeout glitched once, the name ive been using is top defense55, but i will probably stop using it due to the same problem with the server disconnecting me while up big...

As for me playing you, I would do it on my topdefense55 name since i am going to be done with it pretty soon, but otherwise I would want nothing to do with a game vs you.

you are a known double loss glitcher. Both people I know who have played and beaten you (Cedoyo and Reid, both of which i beat by half time mercy) have told me that you chuck deep all game while ab-ing and now apparently the timeout glitch has been added to your arsenal. I would play you just to shut you up on my topDef name, as you are by far the most annoying poster I have seen on any board9no matter the topic, you manage to find a way to cite stats from your recent triumph over an 0-6 level 1 scrub. I dont see how you claim to be straight, unless glitching, ab, nanoes, and chucking deep all game are what is passing for straight nowadays.


also you have bragged about shutting down "lob cheesers" many times, so how does it seem fair to play a lot of east room people(mostly low level scrubs) and accept your wins and brag about them but when things arent going your way, you admittedly were going to try to glitch(which you accomplished). I mean you are ABing, lobbing, etc as well so does that mean every east roomer that you use those tactics against has the okay from you to do the double loss glitch?

[I OU aBeatn]

lol no I am not "Reid"...my name was DontCryAllGm2, but i had to delete it because the server gave me 4 losses while up big and i got timeout glitched once, the name ive been using is top defense55, but i will probably stop using it due to the same problem with the server disconnecting me while up big...

As for me playing you, I would do it on my topdefense55 name since i am going to be done with it pretty soon, but otherwise I would want nothing to do with a game vs you.

you are a known double loss glitcher. Both people I know who have played and beaten you (Cedoyo and Reid, who i both beat by half time mercy) have told me that you chuck deep all game while ab-ing and now apparently the timeout glitch has been added to your arsenal. I would play you just to shut you up on my topDef name, as you are by far the most annoying poster I have seen on any board9no matter the topic, you manage to find a way to cite stats from your recent triumph over an 0-6 level 1 scrub. I dont see how you claim to be straight, unless glitching, ab, nanoes, and chucking deep all game are what is passing for straight nowadays.

Lmfao, I have a blitz percentage of less than 10%. Yeah, I really nano, you dumb****. Everyone knows how I play. You **** with me, I AB. That's how it's always been and always will be. I want to play straight, ask anyone of the straight players that play me. However, you **** with me first, as he did--and I ****ing paused the game and warned him after his opening possession--I will AB every play. As for glitching, no I did not, and no I would not. The only one I know gives both people a DNF. Why the **** would I give myself a DNF? Think about it, genius. As for chucking deep, lmfao at you. I am very well-known for throwing short to intermediate passes. Always have. He's a little something for you to chew on as well:


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Here are the official results of your NCAA(R) Football 07 game on
2006.7.28-0:26:26.

Mode: Ranked
Qtr Length: 5 minutes
Difficulty: All-American
Opponent: Reid5285
Rank: 348

Final score: ABoutTOkicAS 28 vs. Reid5285 48

Statistics ABoutTOkicAS Reid5285
Rushing attempts for 4 12
Rushing yards for 10 108
Passing attempts for 32 21
Passing yards for 408 448
Punts 1 0
Fake punts 0 0
Field goals for 0 2
Long field goals (40+) for 0 0
Fake kicks 0 0
Times player went for two 0 0
Rushing touchdowns for 0 0
Passing touchdowns for 4 6
Returns touchdowns for 0 0
Defensive touchdowns for 0 0
Turnovers for 1 3
Interceptions for 1 1
Sacks for 0 0
Number of third downs 3 3
Third down conversions 1 1
Fourth down attempts 0 0
Fourth down rushing plays 0 0
Fourth down passing plays 0 0
Fourth down conversions 0 0
Fourth-and-long situations 1 1
Fourth-and-long attempts 0 0
No-huddle plays 1 0
Audibles called 1 0
Hot routes used 5 7
Scrambles 0 5
Option plays 2 3
Shotgun plays 30 15
Hail Mary plays 0 0
Blitzes 1 5
Time of possession 6:08 7:47

Favorite offensive play book Florida
Oregon
Favorite offensive formation Shotgun
Ace
Favorite defensive formation 3-4
Quarter

Yeah, he's straight. Lmfao, idiot. I threw 11 more passes, had 12 more completions, and still had 50 less yards. If it weren't for those 2 fumbles, I still would've had a good chance to beat him, even with all the **** he was pulling. Get your facts straight.

As for my good buddy, Cedoyo:


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Here are the official results of your NCAA(R) Football 07 game on
2006.7.23-16:09:14.

Mode: Ranked
Qtr Length: 5 minutes
Difficulty: All-American
Opponent: Cedoyo
Rank: 10001

Final score: ABoutTOkicAS 41 vs. Cedoyo 42

Statistics ABoutTOkicAS Cedoyo
Rushing attempts for 8 12
Rushing yards for 12 15
Passing attempts for 45 24
Passing yards for 519 406
Punts 1 3
Fake punts 0 0
Field goals for 2 0
Long field goals (40+) for 0 0
Fake kicks 0 0
Times player went for two 0 0
Rushing touchdowns for 1 2
Passing touchdowns for 4 4
Returns touchdowns for 0 0
Defensive touchdowns for 0 0
Turnovers for 2 3
Interceptions for 2 3
Sacks for 4 0
Number of third downs 8 5
Third down conversions 4 1
Fourth down attempts 0 1
Fourth down rushing plays 0 0
Fourth down passing plays 0 1
Fourth down conversions 0 1
Fourth-and-long situations 1 1
Fourth-and-long attempts 0 1
No-huddle plays 1 1
Audibles called 6 0
Hot routes used 17 13
Scrambles 0 0
Option plays 3 0
Shotgun plays 47 21
Hail Mary plays 0 3
Blitzes 1 32
Time of possession 11:31 8:29

Favorite offensive play book Florida Northern
Illinois
Favorite offensive formation Shotgun
Shotgun
Favorite defensive formation 3-4
4-3

I was 38/45 for 519. An average of 13.6 yards a completion. He was 14/24 for 406 yards. An average of 29 yards a completion. As for him, I was up 41-21 in the 4th before he got a few lucky bombs and an onside kick to beat me 42-41. So once again, you just made yourself look like a total moron. Have a nice day, patsy.

[userskills7]

From your first post: "I didn't glitch him, you better bet your *** I was going to try"


From your second post "As for glitching, no I did not, and no I would not. The only one I know gives both people a DNF. Why the **** would I give myself a DNF? Think about it, genius"


that seems like contradictory statements to me. As for you vs cedoyo,he described the game like this,"

I have to tell this story,I was playing "about to kick as" and he was up 38- 14 so I decided to concede the victory. Well he rejected and I was stuned because I was thinking He just wanted to run the score up and kill me.Well needless to say I came all the way back and won the game 42-41 and laughing all the way out the door to drink me some Brewski's. "


here is where he describes your nano(which wouldnt affect your blitz % because it only requires a four man rush, movement and ab to be successful in getting instant pressure)

Cedoyo- I know if i keep enough men in that would pick him up but if you got 6 blockers and he rushing 4 and 1 of the 4 is him plus the outside o-lineman dont have any one to block on his side you would expect him to be picked up.but what ever he was doing the o-lineman acted as if he didnt exist and he was killing me. when he blitz oneside and audible the d- line to the other side there is no where you going.


you arent good and you arent straight and you certainly arent bright(I read utopia in june and july for updates on the upcoming game and I still remember when you told everyoner that you werent sure if you wanted to get cable modem because you heard that if it is windy out the connection goes down. It was maybe the dumbest thing i have ever read)

[I OU aBeatn]

when he blitz oneside and audible the d- line to the other side there is no where you going.


Exactly. Our little buddy thought he was going to scramble and chuck all game. Fixed his *** pretty quick, didn't I? I also didn't nano. I shifted the line to go one way so the cheap little ****er couldn't run with the QB, then I ABed his *** from the other side. I did absolutely nothing wrong. In both of those games, the opponent made the first cheap moved--were very, very clearly warned, "if you do that 1 more time, I'm abing." They obviously thought I was kidding. I was playing both of them extremely straight, realistic football until they started their ****. Shut your mouth, and move on.

..and look at the stats. Stats don't lie. Both of them had completion averages around 30 yards, and you're giving ME the riot act. Hahaha. The name patsy fits you well.

As for you questioning my intelligence, I've had a 4.0 GPA and already a few schools who have declared their interest in scholarship offer, although, not for grades.

Now, I'm going to keep making you look like an idiot on every post, because I am right and you're desperate. So, do us both a favor, and shut up. Thanks. Bye, patsy.

[userskills7]

From your first post: "I didn't glitch him, you better bet your *** I was going to try"


From your second post "As for glitching, no I did not, and no I would not. The only one I know gives both people a DNF. Why the **** would I give myself a DNF? Think about it, genius"

how are those two points not contradictory? You glitched him dude, he told everyone on his list and you are caught in your lie.



also, while I make no claims to being a "Str8 sim" player, even I am more straight than you. I dont use any glitches in even my cheesiest of games(AB is a glitch, as is the timeout glitch).

[I OU aBeatn]

From your first post: "I didn't glitch him, you better bet your *** I was going to try"


From your second post "As for glitching, no I did not, and no I would not. The only one I know gives both people a DNF. Why the **** would I give myself a DNF? Think about it, genius"

how are those two points not contradictory? You glitched him dude, he told everyone on his list and you are caught in your lie.



also, while I make no claims to being a "Str8 sim" player, even I am more straight than you. I dont use any glitches in even my cheesiest of games(AB is a glitch, as is the timeout glitch).

You can keep bringing up the glitch thing, you seem desperate enough as it is, but whatever. We got disconnected, look at my past 10 games. There's 4 just like him on there. I have dialup, so it's going to happen from time to time, especially on EA's crapshoot they call servers. You seriously can't be that stupid. Why would I give myself a DNF? Are you kidding me? You have to be like 5. Yes, I am straight as they come. Take that dick out of mouth and read this very carefully:

If you **** with me FIRST, I will AB. Okay, you got that? Pretty sure this is english, so you shouldn't have a problem. I warned both of them. They both chose to ignore it and keep scrambling and chucking. Not my fault. I warned them, they didn't listen, not my problem. I played perfectly straight before they started doing that ****, and they're lucky I only ABed them. You'd be amazed how easily I can user catch. Especially Mr. Reid. Who cares if I ABed him? He'd run 30 yards back and throw a bomb before I even got there. Therefore, shut your mouth and quit defending these piles of **** just to spite me. Your argument is weak, and you know it as well as myself and everyone else.

[userskills7]

You can keep bringing up the glitch thing, you seem desperate enough as it is, but whatever. We got disconnected, look at my past 10 games. There's 4 just like him on there. I have dialup, so it's going to happen from time to time, especially on EA's crapshoot they call servers. You seriously can't be that stupid. Why would I give myself a DNF? Are you kidding me? You have to be like 5. Yes, I am straight as they come. Take that dick out of mouth and read this very carefully


From your first post: "I didn't glitch him, you better bet your *** I was going to try"


if it is so preposterous that you would glitch and give yourself a DNF, then why were you "sure as hell gunna try" to glitch him? I phrased this pretty simply so that even you should be able to give a straight answer

[I OU aBeatn]

From your first post: "I didn't glitch him, you better bet your *** I was going to try"


If it is so preposterous that you would glitch and give yourself a DNF, then why were you, "sure as hell going try" to glitch him? I phrased this pretty simply so that even you should be able to give a straight answer.

First of all, if you're going to try to sound smart, use correct grammar. I fixed it for you.:)

To answer your question, I was going to try to see if old glitches worked, none of them did, therefore, I didn't do anything. I got disconnected right after I scored a TD, and apparently he did as well. Now, I am done arguing with you. I have nothing against you except for the fact that you're one hell of an annoying little booger, so let it at that. This doesn't involve you, anyway. Why are you going to so much effort? It's pretty pointless of you, especially when you look at the stats I posted. It proves they were chucking bombs all game and I wasn't. Did I AB? Yes, I did. I don't deny that. I warned them and they didn't listen. What do you want? Me to admit I glitched? Well, I didn't, but think what you want. I really dont care because it all boils down to this, I tried to play straight and gave them every opportunity in the world to do so as well, and they didn't.

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Cedoyo- I know if i keep enough men in that would pick him up but if you got 6 blockers and he rushing 4 and 1 of the 4 is him plus the outside o-lineman dont have any one to block on his side you would expect him to be picked up.but what ever he was doing the o-lineman acted as if he didnt exist and he was killing me. when he blitz oneside and audible the d- line to the other side there is no where you going.

That's because JJ runs 3-4 Cover 2 Man Spy and then analog blitzes with the spy. The line doesn't recognize the spy so that's why he was getting in. And in addition, this is why JJ's blitz percentage is 10% or whatever he claims. The play is not a designed blitz so it doesn't register as one on his stats.