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ShockTreatment
09-14-2006, 08:37 PM
I love running these rb screens...
but i havent found a playbook that features a lot of them....
Can anyone point me in the right direction with a good pb?
Thanks guys
BlitzMePls
09-14-2006, 09:00 PM
try pass balanced theres at least 4-5 i think
UnKn0wN41510
09-14-2006, 09:38 PM
RB Screen is good but when used alot it can turned bad for you...
Green Bay is definitely the best playbook for screens.
evad04
09-14-2006, 09:58 PM
Okay. This post can be applicable to more than just the Seattle playbook. This is my general "how to" on screens. I want to focus specifically on making pre-snap reads, setting up play pre snap, and what to do post snap.
One of the more effective screens in this playbook is from Near Close. This is also one of the best formations in the playbook because of its assortment of run and pass. Now, against a vanilla opponent getting your presnap read will be easy. If your opponent does the standard 2 Man Under defense without adjusting Man Lock, you will be able to tell because Near Close is a compression set. Against zone your read is just as simple. Understand first off that GOOD players are also good at disguising their coverages. You'll have to hone your skills to run offenses that depend on pre-snap reads (like mine, ).
Now, when we run this screen we pick the play flipped. I can't exactly tell you why, but screens in general work much better on the left side. I honestly don't know why this is, but screens with the same setup run to the right side can get blown up for me. I run Near Close flipped at a few times during the game (not just when I run the screens) so I don't tip them off.
RB Screens against Man Coverage
Now lets discuss the philosophy of running the screen against man coverage. You want to use what I call the "clearout" method, meaning: you want to get everyone AWAY from the side of the field you are running the screen to. So for example, pick Near Close HB Screen (flipped), come to the line and make this adjustments:
1.) Put your FL (left side WR) on a drag to the right
2.) Put your SE (right side WR) on an out)
3.) Put the cone on the SE
We do these steps for a reason. First we want to open space on the left so that when we deliver the pass that side of the field isn't congested. We place the cone on the SE running an out for a few reasons: 1.) outs are easy to complete, so you have a quick throw if the heat is too much 2.) you don't have to have your cone on the HB running the screen; throwing without the cone on him gives you a perfectly fine pass, 3.) You use the cone to suck the manual defender to that side of the field.
Post snap:
You'll want to drop back, then slightly to the right. You just want to focuse on a few things: 1.) is the pressure insane, at which point you can deliver the pass to the slanting TE, the FL on a drag (who can get a nice rub), or the SE on an out. 2.) Is the screen set up? You want to have two lineman out on the left edge by the RB. Sometimes blitzes will hold them up and you'll have only 1 guy. Either way, fire a BULLET pass to the HB.
Then you just stay behind your blockers (many times having two of them, you just slow down, let them do their thing, then throw in some highlight stick and stiff arm). I have practiced this play about 100 times and only rarely do I get less than 10 yards. If the FS gets sucked into the overload on the right, I've taken it to the house. (I use the Packers in practice mode).
So thats how to run screens against man. You want to clear out space, let the play set up, and fire the bullet to the RB. Pretty simple.
Screens against Zone coverage
The philosophy against zone coverage is completely the opposite. You want to overload the screen space with extra bodies, so you have downfield blockers. Take that same Near Close screen (flipped) against a generic Cover 3 zone.
1.) Motion FB to the left and put on out route (you don't HAVE to motiont the FB, but I like to)
2.) But the TE on a deep out
3.) Put the FL on a streak
4.) Put the SE on a drag left.
You now have four players (in addition to the O-lineman lead blocking) who will fill a side of the field against zoning players. And half of the defense will remain on the other side of the field, so now they have mismatch problems.
Set up and post snap are the same. Remember how it looked when you ran this against man? There was NO ONE on that side of the field. LOL.... against zone its a different story. The field is LOADED with players. This is where if can be really fun. Its all about stick and staying behind your blockers.
This same philosophy can be applied to other books, and other plays. I like the Near Close one because I already run a lot of plays out of this formation. Screens work a lot better this year, you just need to know HOW to run them. Be patient. You'll get sacked every now and then. You'll have blocks set up wrong. But just keep trying, and eventually screens will be a great addition to your offense.
JTMoney
09-14-2006, 11:50 PM
Good sh*t Evad! I run the Seattle PB and this is another thing I can add to my attack...
35BigHurt35
10-12-2006, 02:08 PM
The Chargers playbook has a TON of screens.
ICreate
10-12-2006, 05:20 PM
Great posts about how to run the screens. I wondered about the screen against zone. Always looks scary on that side of the field. But what about cover 2 zone cloud? Won't the Corner back pick up on the screen and cause a fumble or tackle in the back field or dropped ball?
evad04
10-12-2006, 06:37 PM
Great posts about how to run the screens. I wondered about the screen against zone. Always looks scary on that side of the field. But what about cover 2 zone cloud? Won't the Corner back pick up on the screen and cause a fumble or tackle in the back field or dropped ball?
It doesn't matter how many people you have in zone on a certain side of the field. It doesn't matter if they play buzz zones, flat zones, hook zones, or deep zones. You are going to overload that side of the field with extra players. They will soak up the extra defenders after the catch.
LHSPanther62
10-12-2006, 11:05 PM
Detroit has good screens including the 1ofakind swing-screen.
wtomasino
10-13-2006, 09:58 AM
Cin has HB screens in alot of sets, almost all. Also a bunch of WR screens.
daone
10-13-2006, 10:08 AM
how are you reading zone or man pre-snap
ICreate
10-13-2006, 10:40 AM
I read zone or man by the way the corner back comes to the line of scrimmage. He does a weird studder step when its man.
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