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JL514
10-14-2006, 05:59 PM
Hey I've been playing most of my defensive scheme out of the 3-3-5 this year, I just love the coverage and the personel and the corner blitzes yahoooooo for PA abusing ****ers : ) but I'm having problems getting good heat thru middle gaps - anyone willing to share some?

Peace

daone
10-14-2006, 09:27 PM
I cant get it through the middle to well either...but thats ok because it sure comes off the edge...

zaza945
10-14-2006, 10:10 PM
One thing I found that works ok for middle heat is the play Underslice 7. Pinch the line and crash them in and pinch the LBs. If you have a good MLB it will work better because the MLB has a delayed blitz and the DLine usually opens up a gap for him. The good thing about the play is its a 4 man rush so the coverage is good, but you dont want to run this play several times in a row because a good player will recognize which side you're running it too and pass to the flats on the side with man to man. But try it out and see what you think.

JL514
10-14-2006, 10:56 PM
it worked so and so, I play with BAL so im kinda sketchy on blitzing lewis because his AWR is so high he gets so many picks on the quick ins and quick slants =/

BIGKEV410
10-15-2006, 10:26 AM
How are you guys that run the 3-3-5 as your base set it up against the run. I can't seem to stop the run with this set.

JL514
10-15-2006, 08:33 PM
pinching and run commit works fairly well, if you play out of the zone 3 most of the time u can lay off with Corners and bring the SS in the box (Reed in my case)

BIGKEV410
10-16-2006, 02:12 PM
JL, not to beat a dead horse, but are you pinching the line, and Lb's or just the d-line.

NezDogg
10-19-2006, 05:09 PM
How are you guys that run the 3-3-5 as your base set it up against the run. I can't seem to stop the run with this set.


Frisco Fire works good

benasty2em
10-19-2006, 07:54 PM
Here are a few ways I like to blitz out of the 3-3-5. Keep in mind that you need to have some manual stick skillz to use these. (or you need to change the covereage up).
1) I call the monster blitz (frisco fire) same play. 1st playmaker LB's to hook zone.(R1+R3 up) (this is for ps2).
2). Next Jam (triangle Dpad down) This pust the bltizing nicklebacker in better position.
3). Back each corner up (triangle, square up) (triangle circle Up)
4). Last step Blitz LOLB. (R1 R3 right) It works better this way then to manually make him blitz down.
5). Control middle LB. Play middle of field.
By backing conerrs up that are in hook zone the do a fairly good job against corner routes. Bcuz of the heat, it will be a short crner route. Also most people will pay attention to the nickle backer, and not the heat coming from the outside LB.
*Note this same concept can be run out of any 3-3-5 formation. I change it up and use cover 2 or cover three with this to keep opponent off balance. The reason stick skills are needed is becuz you are going to have to defend the streaks utilizing cover 2.
Try this out, hope it helps.
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blueblood
10-19-2006, 08:13 PM
Here are a few ways I like to blitz out of the 3-3-5. Keep in mind that you need to have some manual stick skillz to use these. (or you need to change the covereage up).
1) I call the monster blitz (frisco fire) same play. 1st playmaker LB's to hook zone.(R1+R3 up) (this is for ps2).
2). Next Jam (triangle Dpad down) This pust the bltizing nicklebacker in better position.
3). Back each corner up (triangle, square up) (triangle circle Up)
4). Last step Blitz LOLB. (R1 R3 right) It works better this way then to manually make him blitz down.
5). Control middle LB. Play middle of field.
By backing conerrs up that are in hook zone the do a fairly good job against corner routes. Bcuz of the heat, it will be a short crner route. Also most people will pay attention to the nickle backer, and not the heat coming from the outside LB.
*Note this same concept can be run out of any 3-3-5 formation. I change it up and use cover 2 or cover three with this to keep opponent off balance. The reason stick skills are needed is becuz you are going to have to defend the streaks utilizing cover 2.
Try this out, hope it helps.
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That looks pretty nasty benasty2em. I'm going to try it tonight and hopefully it works so I can add another tool to my crazy defense.

zaza945
10-19-2006, 08:18 PM
Here are a few ways I like to blitz out of the 3-3-5. Keep in mind that you need to have some manual stick skillz to use these. (or you need to change the covereage up).
1) I call the monster blitz (frisco fire) same play. 1st playmaker LB's to hook zone.(R1+R3 up) (this is for ps2).
2). Next Jam (triangle Dpad down) This pust the bltizing nicklebacker in better position.
3). Back each corner up (triangle, square up) (triangle circle Up)
4). Last step Blitz LOLB. (R1 R3 right) It works better this way then to manually make him blitz down.
5). Control middle LB. Play middle of field.
By backing conerrs up that are in hook zone the do a fairly good job against corner routes. Bcuz of the heat, it will be a short crner route. Also most people will pay attention to the nickle backer, and not the heat coming from the outside LB.
*Note this same concept can be run out of any 3-3-5 formation. I change it up and use cover 2 or cover three with this to keep opponent off balance. The reason stick skills are needed is becuz you are going to have to defend the streaks utilizing cover 2.
Try this out, hope it helps.
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Good stuff.. Is monster blitz the one with the outside CBs maned up and the 2 safeties in deep zones? If it is, i think it is, I use this too with almost the same set up vs. 2 or maybe 3 WR sets. Vs. 4 or 5 WR sets I use the play CB fox blitz I think its called? The one with right CB blitzing and NB blitzing. Heres how i set it up...

1. Either manually move NB up, or Bump and Run, or Bump and RUn and move the left CB back, all depending on the situation and the opponent.

2. Spread and loop the Dline.

3. PM the LOLB (to the right of the screen) into purple zone.

4. Control the safety to the right and dont get beat deep.

So I usually call this play with the NB to the short side of the field and the blitzing CB to the wide side. I find people are more likely to throw to the wideside with corners, C routes, flags, posts, ect. and it gives me a good chance at a userpick. Also the purple zone helps vs. those routes... Another thing is I usually only do this on 3rd and 10+ because flats are open. But these 2 plays are really good plays to use together because the opponent will begin to guess which one is coming, and they each compliment each other.

IFLPrez
10-21-2006, 04:52 PM
Throw some PA at anyone playing using the 3-3-5 it messes up there coverage.

MelloDrama
10-24-2006, 11:29 PM
The this is how a generate heat up the middle. Any formation with 3 down line man and you want to get heat up the middle you should follow these steps.

Pinch line
Plamaker Dline up (loop)

Then bring your heat up the middle.

For instance if I'm playing a guy that likes to protect the edge's with FB's and HB's or TE's I'll bring the heat up the middle.

Try this:

Dime 3-2-5 Dollar

I forget the play name but you have 2 safety's deep and one LB blitzing.

Now:
Pinch line
Loop line
D playmaker both LB's to blitz
Pinch Lb's

87 % of the time they will get through the A and B gaps right up the middle of the Oline. You can do things like this from any 3 Dline set .