Ranks New Orleans Playbook findings! (Bengals)

[rank is dumb]

Ok guys I am going to start posting the plays and offensive strategies I find with the New Orleans playbook.. I know that there is already a thread on this but I wanted to start another so I CAN KEEP TRACK of my ideas.. :)

I am a Bengals user and this is how I have my WR depth Chart. #1 Housh #2 Chad #3 Henry I do this simply cause I like to always have Chad on my left. .



SB formation shift (Tight Doubles)/ against man coverage

Base offense

Plays used:

☼ TE Option -(kelly option for me a Bengals user)- SB Slot Strong
☼ PA boot RT- SB strong
☼ PA Middle-SB Twin TE
☼ WR Option (johnson Option for me) SB 4 WR

☼ HB Plunge-SB normal
☼ HB power-SB normal
☼ HB Pitch-SB normal


This is the play that got me interested in this formation shift.

TE Option

I am looking at the goofy question mark route on the left.. When I formation shift Chad who is running the Question mark route is in the slot. (this is really the main concept of this offense) Henry is on the out side running the 6 yard in.. Housh moves over to TE and is on a streak and Kelly takes the FL position running a double option route..

I now Streak my RB and motion him left.. THIS FORCES THE MLB TO COVER THE SLOT WR !!(Chad Johnson) This is a huge miss match :).. Now what seems to happen is this.. The RB clears out the CB and Safty, the other Dime back and MLB seem to follow the 6 yard in route run by Henry 90% of the time. This leaves the slot WR WIDE OPEN.. This seems to work vs Man, Man Bump, Man delay bump!! Most of the time I hot block Housh for more protection..

PA boot RT

When I formation shift to SB Tight Doubles I again have Chad at slot, Henry at SE Housh at TE and Kelly at FL. On this play I do not hot block Housh most of the time.. He clears out the safty on that side most of the time.. He is strictly a decoy! When I hike the ball the QB rolls rt and I am looking for Chad (slot) is my intended reciver with the possiblity of having the largest amout of speration on the play..

I like to use this play when my Run game is working well out of this base offense.. Since most of the time I am running to the left with the HB Plunge.


PA Middle

Now I use this play with and with out the formation shift.. I like the flag route run by the FL. This route is one of my favorite routes in the game so far..

When I formation shift with this play I Like to Hot route Chad on an 5 yard out. He is my first read.. I then have Henry running the deep sideline flag route and Kelly running the 5 yard in from the FL position..


WR Option (johnson Option for me)

When I formation shift Chad and Henry are again in the same positions. Housh is at TE and Washington or Chatman depending on who I have as my 4th wr is at FL. I like this play for three reasons.. The FL route the slant curl out is very effective.. I can use it to Beat the bump by passing high and leading the reciver and using it like a REAL FADE route or I can use it as the way its intended.. I now have chad running a doubbe option route (I have not worked with this yet, Note to self) and Henry running the Deep slant across the feild. This is pretty much the same as the PA boot..

In this formation shift you can't seem to playmaker the slot unless you motion him.. I sometimes motion Chad out and playmaker him.. I also like to put him on a slant out this forces the FS to choose between Chad and henry.. The SS follows the Housh (TE) and most of the time Henry is open the same as the PA boot. You can use all three of the recievers on this play and be effective with all three..

I use these 7 plays together. I Must be effective running the ball for the set of plays to work with each other.. I am still working on 4 or 5 other plays to go along with these not to mention the rest of the playbook.. WOW I love this playbook. :D

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[SaDBuTTruE13]

yea....ive used this PB all year and all year last year too...however...im not all that big of a fan of this PB...i cant run the ball all that well out of it for some reason and the left side of the formation is vulnerable to the blitz (unless u make your #2 WR block which is not something i like doing)(especially considering it is chad johnson the way u have it set up)...i like weak i twin WR in this book...its a great formation...

[rank is dumb]

After labbing more I have started to notice that having a WR at TE in this formaion does not change his ratings.. At first I did not use Housh at TE for much more then a distraction.. But I have found that he still catchs everything I throw to him. This is starting to allow me to expand more..

I also found that the TE option play is just as effective when I don't motion my RB over there when its loose coverage. The CB and still follow the 6 yard in route.. Since I am not motioning the RB I have more room to the out side.. This seems to be a littl more effective..

I have also noticed that Smart routing the Deep cross and the Slant curl routes make them very effective vs BUMP coverage.. When I smart route the Slant curl route that goes to the out side from the RT WR position vs loose coverage the CB seems to turn to the inside leaving my WR WIDE open..

I also like the QB roll out in the SB Slot strong formation.. The Slot wr runs the z out and I love the fact I can formation shift it to tight doubles putting the flag/corner route on the out side.. If I audible down to this play from a 4 wr set with my TE subbed at WR I can have wr at FL..

Another thing I have noticed in the 4 wr sets vs man cover 2.. If I put 3 of my recivers on one side and fade all of them the saft always covers the out side reciver and I can pass lead the inside wr over the middle for a nice gain.

I am just posting stuff I find so I don't forget guys.. If anyone trys this stuff let me know if it works for you or not.. I post this stuff on here so I don't lose it.. If I write it down I lose it for sure and im to old and stupid to remeber it all.. I already forgot 5 or 6 things I found last night..

[rank is dumb]

yea....ive used this PB all year and all year last year too...however...im not all that big of a fan of this PB...i cant run the ball all that well out of it for some reason and the left side of the formation is vulnerable to the blitz (unless u make your #2 WR block which is not something i like doing)(especially considering it is chad johnson the way u have it set up)...i like weak i twin WR in this book...its a great formation...

I have noticed that left side is weak vs the blitz.. Thats why I am trying to work on some of the QB boot rt and QB rool out rt plays.. I have spent some time with the weak I twin and also like it..

As for running the ball thats the reason I choose this playbook.. For my running style the HB Plunge and slam are very important to me.. Most people that know me know that my run game has always been my strong point though.. I also seem to have success with the ZONE blocking pitch and toss plays.. I don't lab much vs zone with the zone passing flaws. So everything is mostly vs man and man blitzes..

[rank is dumb]

I want to post a few more things before I forget them again..

I am really liking the Split backs Texas play.. As I forgot to mention earlier this entire offense is designed to be used as a No huddle offense. Now I do not mean hurry up I mean No huddle..

When I audible to Texas form my three WR sets I have henry at FB running the C route.. He seems to get open alot and he always cathcs the ball :D The streak slant route by the TE splits the saftys alot and I can hit him over the middle if the FB is not open.. Of course I have a lousy TE on the bengals if I had a better TE this play would work better...

TE slant is is something else I like.. I like the TE route and the FL route the corner/flag route.. This flag route seems to be open ALOT.. People have told me its not that good but I find it to be very effective.. Of course I have Carson Palmer and he super accurate when throwing RT..

Time to watch HOUSE.. I love that show.. :D

[sportfan88]

After labbing more I have started to notice that having a WR at TE in this formaion does not change his ratings.. At first I did not use Housh at TE for much more then a distraction.. But I have found that he still catchs everything I throw to him. This is starting to allow me to expand more..

I also found that the TE option play is just as effective when I don't motion my RB over there when its loose coverage. The CB and still follow the 6 yard in route.. Since I am not motioning the RB I have more room to the out side.. This seems to be a littl more effective..

I have also noticed that Smart routing the Deep cross and the Slant curl routes make them very effective vs BUMP coverage.. When I smart route the Slant curl route that goes to the out side from the RT WR position vs loose coverage the CB seems to turn to the inside leaving my WR WIDE open..

I also like the QB roll out in the SB Slot strong formation.. The Slot wr runs the z out and I love the fact I can formation shift it to tight doubles putting the flag/corner route on the out side.. If I audible down to this play from a 4 wr set with my TE subbed at WR I can have wr at FL..

Another thing I have noticed in the 4 wr sets vs man cover 2.. If I put 3 of my recivers on one side and fade all of them the saft always covers the out side reciver and I can pass lead the inside wr over the middle for a nice gain.

I am just posting stuff I find so I don't forget guys.. If anyone trys this stuff let me know if it works for you or not.. I post this stuff on here so I don't lose it.. If I write it down I lose it for sure and im to old and stupid to remeber it all.. I already forgot 5 or 6 things I found last night..

how do you put a Wr at Te?

[rank is dumb]

how do you put a Wr at Te?

When I motion shift from a 3 or 4 wr set to tight doubles in the Saints playbook my FL moves to TE and me TE moves to FL..

[rank is dumb]

PA FB Flat Strong I twin TE.. Call a strong I normal AUD to Strong I twine TE Hot Sudible to PA FB Flat this gives my a PA pass out of both single back and I form that have the Flag route on the rt..


With my pre set audibles I have 33 diffrent plays I can get to with formation shifs and hot audibles.. So when I run the No Huddle Don't get stale!!!!!!!

[OBinKC]

Then what's the difference between a no huddle and a hurry up offense?

[rank is dumb]

Then what's the difference between a no huddle and a hurry up offense?

A no Huddle offense is design to read over the def at the LOS like Cincy and Indy do in real life.. Thats why with the right plays in my audibles I have the ablity to use 33 plays not uncluding my 5 preset audibles and the play I picked at the play call screen....

I am trying to devlop a REALISTIC No huddle offense.. Well atleast the best I can with Maddens stupid sub rules.

A hurry up is more for two min drills. I keep the clock moving while on the feild.. I am also a clock eater.. lol By running the No Huddle I force people to use their Time outs before they really want to.. Unless i'm losing of course..

[UREADY]

It seems like u got some pretty good idears especially out of formations that I don't ever run. However i don't give us enough detail. It was be nice to know wht the original play. and out of wht formation and wht play are u audibling to and formation shifting too...I would dearly appreciate cause lost azz hell....maybe I cause I just work 12 hour shift but damn....read it to yourself one more time but read like u telling it to someone doesn't think like u.

[rank is dumb]

Ok I want to post a few running plays I like.. I noticed that this playbook has some toss/pitch plays that are zone blocking plays.. I find these plays to be extreamly effective when used in conjunction with the slam and plunge plays..

In my last 3 games online I have 198, 175, and 148 yards rushing with the bengals.. Now don't get me wrong.. Running the ball has always been my strong point!!!

Here is a list of the run plays I use most..

SB normal-HB plunge
SB normal-HB power
SB big-HB dive
SB big-HB power
SB big-HB slam
I form twin TE-HB sweep- Another zone toss play
I form twin TE-HB lead dive
Strong I twin wr-HB lead dive
Strong I twin wr-HB sweep-zone toss play

Single back big

Hb dive- This is normally the first play I run in the game.. This is a tester play to see how my opponent sets up for the run and what his base def is..


HB slam.. This is my staple run play.. I don't like to use this play to early in the game.. This is a very fast devolping run play. Probly the fastest run play to hit the hole in Madden.. Not including the FB plays.. This play is EXTREAMLY EFFECTIVE vs any 3 man fronts.. 3-4, 3-3-5, ect ect..

HB power- This is one of those zone blocking plays I like.. THis play takes time to run.. First you can;t use your speed burst... You must wait for the blocking to set up.. If you are working the HB slam play well this play should be a good compliment with it. Once people starting keying in on the middle run use this play to keep them off gaurd..

PS: I use these pass plays with the running plays out of this formation. FL CORNER.. I like the z out route and both the TE routes. Saints cross up- I really like this play and for one reason only.. I like to use this play on 2nd and 2 or 3 and around the goal line. I really like the RB route.. He seems to almost always be open for a 2-4 yard gain and of course PA deep Post.. You need to have a PA pass to use in your running formations..

Next formation I use is SB normal. Here I find my two GO TO running plays. HB plunge and HB power!!

First as I mentioned before HB plunge is the KEY to my offense. I get more BIG runs with this play then any other run play I use.. I use this play on all downs but I use it most effectivly on 3rd down.. I love to use this play in passing situations.. This play is always in my AUDIBLES.. Most of the time I am formation shifting this play to tight doubles. When I do that the CB moves over to cover the Slot WR.. I motion the slot WR back out to the SE spot. This normaly clears out that side a bit for me and giving me a nice running lane to drive a truck threw..

HB power is used in almost the exact same way.. I FIND it very important to have both running plays and passing plays that use the same motion.. Thesetwo plays are a part of my original scheme in the first post of this thread.. This helps keep the enemy off guard :) and always guessing if its a run of pass.

[GunnerKid]

During chat, my opponent said he was confused during the whole game. I basically used 7 plays to crush him. Any zone or man plays to get Ocho Cinco open deep?

Thanks!

[rank is dumb]

During chat, my opponent said he was confused during the whole game. I basically used 7 plays to crush him. Any zone or man plays to get Ocho Cinco open deep?

Thanks!


When I play Madden I am watching the saftys at the snap. If I see Ocho is in one on one coverage I throw the ball deep to him.. Like the say in the NFL were even I'm leaving.. To be honest I am mostly a running player who uses PA passes.. Those are just plays and things I found while labbing the SAINTS book.. I been working with the SG some also.. Ill post what I found. Also the other plays I worked on..

[rank is dumb]

There is a great video of a play from this book over on Madden Nation check it out.. I can't post the link but I'm sure you can find it.


Here is also another play that works very effectivly vs both man and zone!

SG slot strong-SE Quick Hit

With this play you will have many options just like the one posted on MN.

Ok first lets take a look at the play.

The SE does a 8 yard in route, The TE does a streak route (but its not a true streak), The slot does a sharp post corner route and the FL does a quick slant. The RB stays into block.

Here's how I run it.. First I like to hot route the SE WR (one on left) on a fade, I do this to keep the safty deep on that side of the feild, If its a cover one, three or a robber style play you will have one on one coverage. This is a great oppertunity to go deep,.

Second I streak the TE. This is KEY TO THE PLAY! The default route of the TE leaks over to the rt and allows the safty to cover both the slots Post corner route and the TE's streak route. When you streak the TE the safty will have to choose either the Slot or the TE! If its a any type of two deep safty coverage the TE will most likly split the Saftys and be left wide open,

Third I send the RB on a out to the RT. This allows me to have 5 reads on the play. Whats nice about this set up is it works vs virtually every default def in Madden.

Against Man you have the slot's post corner route, The RB's out route the SE's fade route and the FL slant route to look for. Most of the time the TE will be covered unless you have a elite TE.

Against zone you again have the fade route (witch is almost a gimmie), The TE splitting the saftys against 2 safty deep coverage, the RB on the out and again the post corner route!!

If you make the right read every time this play is pretty much unstopable

Give it a little practice time and let me know what you guys think!

[Paydirt404]

Good shyt playboy......I like this. :D

[rank is dumb]

I just wanted to post some of the stuff I found for others to veiw and take what they please! Funny thing is I don't even use this stuff most of the time.. I can never remeber all the things I lab.. When I read threw my own thread I'm like DAMMET I forgot about that lol

[Nevada_Ballin]

wow dog, let me add 2 plays for ya, i use the NOLA book as well:

Split Backs Normal - HB Off Tackle
This play has been the heart of my running game in madden for years - i won't use a PB that doesn't have it. You can take this play inside or outside depending on the LB setup. Just follow your FB and lay off the speed button until you find your lane. The play is designed to go outside but if you notice your opponent is attacking that way, just cut it up behind your guard. Doing a package to Dual HBs and flipping it allows your #2 HB to take the play the opposite way.

Singleback Tight Doubles - Slot Corner
Love this play. Set your cone to the middle before the snap hot route the outside receiver (left) on a streak if vs zone or screen if man, hike the ball and you'll have a choice of 3 receivers - the inside receiver (left) on a corner route, the TE on a crossing route and the HB headed out to the flats then up the field. If your getting pressured then you'll want to leave the TE in to block and bring the other receiver (right side) on a crossing route to the left.


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[rank is dumb]

Singleback Tight Doubles - Slot Corner
Love this play. Set your cone to the middle before the snap hot route the outside receiver (left) on a streak if vs zone or screen if man, hike the ball and you'll have a choice of 3 receivers - the inside receiver (left) on a corner route, the TE on a crossing route and the HB headed out to the flats then up the field. If your getting pressured then you'll want to leave the TE in to block and bring the other receiver (right side) on a crossing route to the left.

This is the play they have on Video over on SG!! Its a really good break down you should check it out!!

I remember labbing that split backs run play one day. But since I don't do much else out of that formation I don't use it much!! But I do remeber liking it!

[Nevada_Ballin]

This is the play they have on Video over on SG!! Its a really good break down you should check it out!!




It is? They stealin' my plays over there????

*checks phone book for Play Stealing Attorneys...... btw, why isnt the plural for attorney "attornies"? Must have something to do with that "e"....

[rank is dumb]

It is? They stealin' my plays over there????

*checks phone book for Play Stealing Attorneys...... btw, why isnt the plural for attorney "attornies"? Must have something to do with that "e"....

What about Money and Monies? Who the hell says Monies instead of Money?

[543 Double Play]

Why is the plural for "mouse" mice? BUT the plural for "blouse" NOT "blice"? OR, plural for "goose" is "geese", BUT the plural for "moose" is NOT "meese"? English Language is messed up.:)

[Nevada_Ballin]

this thread has been hijacked by English 101......

[543 Double Play]

Sorry, I couldn't help it.

[XBringthePainXX]

back to this playbook... I also use this book. I have a beastly play:

pick SB tight doubles slot cross, audible to SB twin TE WR option, formation shift back to tight doubles, STREAK wr1, fade outside right WR, either out route or block TE, pull the RB route. reads: quick read RB, then WR1 on ddep lob, then WR on the corner. PM me if you want to talk about this playbook

[Nevada_Ballin]

SB tight doubles slot cross, audible to SB twin TE WR option, formation shift back to tight doubles, STREAK wr1, fade outside right WR, either out route or block TE, pull the RB route.

lol.. holy cow, do you get many delay of game penalties while setting this up? :D

The last thing i want to do is go through a dozen button presses just to get a play.... there must be an easier way!!! lol

[XBringthePainXX]

no it seriously isnt alot... as you audible you can form. shift right back, so its not like your players are running the whole way across and back - the idea is to F.S. quickly to keep the players where they are... and as far as the route pulling and hot routes, that takes like 5 seconds. the TE and right WR's routes arent really important, this play is on the left. I just fade or streak the right WR and usually block the TE. i will only throw to tthis WR in 1-1 coverage.

[Nevada_Ballin]

no it seriously isnt alot... as you audible you can form. shift right back, so its not like your players are running the whole way across and back - the idea is to F.S. quickly to keep the players where they are... and as far as the route pulling and hot routes, that takes like 5 seconds. the TE and right WR's routes arent really important, this play is on the left. I just fade or streak the right WR and usually block the TE. i will only throw to tthis WR in 1-1 coverage.

anyone got any crackerjacks? i think i need a decoder ring for this.......... :D

So let me get this right, you're going through an audible, several hot routes, a formation shift and another audible just to pull a route and fade/steak 2 others?

[XBringthePainXX]

anyone got any crackerjacks? i think i need a decoder ring for this.......... :D

So let me get this right, you're going through an audible, several hot routes, a formation shift and another audible just to pull a route and fade/steak 2 others?


if you would actually lab this play u will find it is VERY SIMPLE. you have 4 routes, an outside corner and a streak , the RB in the flats, and the other outside wr on another streak or a fade <- this route is to run off the other safety (i throw to him if its 1 on 1) The audibling is to get the outside corner route, pulling the RB route to get him to run to the flat on that same side. it is VERY SIMPLE.

[XBringthePainXX]

and a GREAT play.

[Nevada_Ballin]

oh, i'm not doubting the validity of the play at all, i'm sure it works great.

I'm just one of those guys who doesn't like to get too complicated with what i'm doing at the LOS - pretty much call a play, read the Defensive setup, adjust if i think i need to (change a route or go from pass to run or run to pass) quickly and snap the ball..... and i'm kinda impatient sometimes...lol

[35BigHurt35]

you should simply take a excel spreadsheet and enter your offense so that you can have your stuff on 1 page right in front of you when you play....it's actually very easy to do and you wont obviously be refering to it all the time, but occasionally during the game, you can look down at it and come up with a play or two that you forgot about. I did this with my seattle offense and it's pretty sweet.....

[rank is dumb]

I just post these things for those who come here looking for some usefull info.. Most of these plays are simple and easy to use.

My main offense consists of running the ball alot, PA passing deep and short in and out routes. :D I always use the KISS method. Keep It Simple Stupid!! :D

[XBringthePainXX]

i have 2 other plays that can be really effective out of this same look.. PM me if you use this playbook and want to lab with me.