Are you a Srt8 Balla?

[McMadden]

Hey want bragging rights that you are a str8 sim player? I lifted this idea from another site. Winner of this tourney would have bragging rights as a str8 player for the week. Then we hold a second tourney the following week, and so on and so on. The first players to sign up are in.

Game play starts 11am eastern saturday 20 March, and Tourney name is VG Sports , games are unranked: what do you have to lose?

Game Play Rules:
ALL RECENT RULES CHANGES WILL BE IN BOLD
1.Motion before the hike of the ball. WRs must clear the offensive line between the tackles, or TE if he is there when you motion the WR, and you must allow the DB to clear in front of the offensive line between the tackles (including the TE) This goes for backs and TE's also.

2. Do not drop your QB back 15-20 yards to wait for a receiver to break his route. This is highly unrealistic and almost never happens in the NFL. Every "blue moon", maybe.

3. One audible for a play. This goes for the offense only.

4. Onside Kicks are not allowed unless down by 14 or more at any point of game.

5. You must punt the ball if your not pass the 50 yard line unless down by 14 or more at any point of game. It 4th and inches, it does not matter, you must punt.

6. Click on click off not allowed. Controlling WR’s (TE,HB,FB included) before catch is allowed

7. Goal Line can only be used inside the 20 yard line markers on both sides of the field.

8. Do not run up the score, show your opponent some respect. If your up by 21 with 1 minute to go, do not go and try to score again.

9. In depth chart, RB's will only be allowed to play their respective position along with playing FB and WR. WR's will only be allowed to play their position. TE's are eligible to play FB and vise versa. All D-lineman are interchangeable. LB's are interchangeable as well. Do not sub any LB's at any D-line positions. All secondary personnel are interchangeable.

10. Stalling - Stalling of time permitted within the final minute of the first half and the final 3 minutes of the game

11. No Huddles - "No huddle offense" permitted within the final 2 minutes of each half and any OT period. Offense must allow defense to get back onsides. If an offsides penalty is called, the defense decides whether or not the penalty is accepted or declined by pausing the game and announcing their decision. Anytime a team is behind by more than 8 points - No huddle offense are allowed in the entire 4th quarter.

12. Accidental No Huddles - unless 4th down, the member that accidently calls a "No huddle" at other times during the game must wait 10 seconds before snapping the ball and give defense time to set up. If 4th down and team would have normally picked field goal or punt - must use time out immediately unless you are in the last minute of the first half or last 3 minutes of game giving you the option of taking a delay of game penalty.

13. Fake punts/field goals - No limit on fake field goals. Teams are allowed one fake punt per game. Punter must be in punters position on fake punts and kicker must be in kickers position on fake field goals.

14. HB Pass play is not allowed

15. Putting star players in to return punts and/or kickoffs.
There ARE teams in the NFL that do this. Players like Tim Brown, Champ Bailey, Deltha O'Neil, etc. do return kicks and players that use these teams will hear no complaints from me. However, players like Marshall Faulk, Clinton Portis, Priest Holmes, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, etc. DO NOT return kicks. Putting them back there is unrealistic and should not be done. If anyone has a question about an individual player....just ask. This also applies to all other BS substitutions. Use your head. Ask yourself, "Why am I doing this?". If you're looking to gain some advantage over your opponent through roster changes you are weak. The only advantage you should be looking for is your play calling ability vs. your opponent's

16. No Glitches or Nanos

17. Sportsmanship
Everything that I've mentioned above falls into this category. Show respect to your opponent with a "GL", "GH", and "GG". Play the game realistically. Be a good winner and an even better loser. If you lose, compliment your opponent on his superb gameplay. Don't say crap like, "You got lucky" or "I played like crap" or "my team sucks" or "I was drunk". Give credit where credit is due. You got beat...take it like a man and get on with your life. Same if you win. No need to let everyone in the room know how bad you just kicked someone's whatever. Show some humility, because it probably won't be too long before you're on the other end of it.

Are you a str8 up baller, then join up. Unique teams no (so pick any team you want to play as) and password will be PM'd to all the signees. GL to the 2nd named VG STR8 Baller for the second week in March!:cool:
Past winner
http://www.vgsportsinc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=41688#post41688

[McMadden]

Screen Name: VGMcMadden
Aim: mcmadden2
e-mail: jonrussell_2000@yahoo.com
team: Eagles

[BigDose]

VG name: VG Tjiggy Plus
AIM: TonyPlatnum
E-mail: TonyPlatinum@yahoo.com
team: SeaHawks

1 question:
I cannot control my receiver but the DEFENSE can?

You know you can "JET PACK" with the DBs right? Maybe you should change that. If not it'll be USER PICK city. But hey I'm down!!

[McMadden]

Originally posted by BigDose
VG name: VG Tjiggy Plus
AIM: TonyPlatnum
E-mail: TonyPlatinum@yahoo.com
team: SeaHawks

1 question:
I cannot control my receiver but the DEFENSE can?

You know you can "JET PACK" with the DBs right? Maybe you should change that. If not it'll be USER PICK city. But hey I'm down!!

My bad I changed it.

[TrentonMakes]

I follow these rules myself all but the motion rule. Just my thoughts if I see it on Sundays during the year then thats the way I try to play it. I know the motion rule is a big one in the STR8 community so I guessing I couldn't count myself as one. I like the way the motion rule is in the VGOML where the WR and the DB must clear the line( including the TE). This works for me fine.

[McMadden]

Originally posted by TrentonMakes
I follow these rules myself all but the motion rule. Just my thoughts if I see it on Sundays during the year then thats the way I try to play it. I know the motion rule is a big one in the STR8 community so I guessing I couldn't count myself as one. I like the way the motion rule is in the VGOML where the WR and the DB must clear the line( including the TE). This works for me fine.
I cut and pasted these rules from here and other sites. I'll update the motion rule in bold type. Thanks for pointiong that out to me.

[BigDose]

6. Click on click off not allowed Controlling WR’s (TE,HB,FB included) before catch is allowed

So that's YES you can control them or no it's not allowed? ....lol
A little confused.

See you SAT 9am my time (pst)

[McMadden]

Originally posted by BigDose
6. Click on click off not allowed Controlling WR’s (TE,HB,FB included) before catch is allowed

So that's YES you can control them or no it's not allowed? ....lol
A little confused.

See you SAT 9am my time (pst)
Once you take control of the WR you can't click off. You must maintain control of the receiver.

[BigDose]

ok...
GOOD!!

http://www.havocallmadden.com/audiovideofolder/mit.mov

[detour1]

VG name: detour1
AIM: detourI
E-mail: detour1@myway.com
team: The Green Bay Packers

[BigDose]

ok... I'm on... and there's no room and no one showed up except me....

I GUESS I'm THE STR8 BALLER OF THE WEEK!

I cannot believe there's no COMP here in the VG NATION for me!!

I am the MAN Gloria.... I am the MAN!!!!!

[McMadden]

Next game will be 1pm Saturday 6 March
Sign up now!:D

[808 Packers]

Im down. Just gotta make sure of the time, Pacific - Eastern

[McMadden]

Originally posted by 808 Packers
Im down. Just gotta make sure of the time, Pacific - Eastern

Oops, times are eastern.

[detour1]

I consider myself to be a very straight player, looking for some competition that plays a straight game .
I've only been playing cents January ,04 .but I have been playing 2k . Started with 2k1 Al was playing 2k4 my xbox stop working for the second time so I decided to get a PlayStation .
would have loved to be in the competition on March 6 , but I know I am not ready .

[dirtfield]

i would like to get in this weeks tourny

madden(profile) dirtfield

email- mutiny6924@yahoo.com

teams i like to use eagles,vikings,chiefs,titans,packers,broncos

[gilster23]

You have the winner here.

EA ID=RaidersEAML
email=pgilchrist@carolina.rr.com

P.S. anyone ever looking for a str8 game hit me up.

Question? All-Madden or All-Pro

[McMadden]

Originally posted by McMadden
Oops, times are eastern.
No one knows who will win and besides, this is a great way to gage your progress in a str8 cheese free game.

[darkfire]

Originally posted by McMadden
Next game will be 1pm Saturday 6 March
Sign up now!:D

Ok, I must have totally missed it...where/how do we sign up for the 3/6 tourney?
Thanks!

[McMadden]

Originally posted by darkfire
Ok, I must have totally missed it...where/how do we sign up for the 3/6 tourney?
Thanks!

Okay just post your info here like so...........
VG Name
AIM:
e-mail:
Team: (you plan on using on-line)
VG name: VG Tjiggy Plus
AIM: TonyPlatnum
E-mail: TonyPlatinum@yahoo.com
team: SeaHawks

Screen Name: VGMcMadden
Aim: mcmadden2
e-mail: jonrussell_2000@yahoo.com
team: Eagles
Originally posted by detour1
VG name: detour1
AIM: detourI
E-mail: detour1@myway.com
team: The Green Bay Packers
Originally posted by dirtfield
i would like to get in this weeks tourny
madden(profile) dirtfield
email- mutiny6924@yahoo.com
teams i like to use eagles,vikings,chiefs,titans,packers,broncos
Originally posted by gilster23
You have the winner here.
EA ID=RaidersEAML
email=pgilchrist@carolina.rr.com
P.S. anyone ever looking for a str8 game hit me up.
Question? All-Madden or All-Pro

Originally posted by deputyjaay
Hey id definetely be interested in this, as str8 is the only way i play!
Aim: deputyjaay
email: deputyjaay@yahoo.com
madden vg carini 69
Originally posted by cal26baller
going4gl0ry or vgpantshers
jpdrake26@yahoo.com
Im in
Originally posted by Atljunglist
I think this is the same tourney from another post, cause the rules are the same. I never heard anything back after McMadden said I was in. NE ways ATLJUNGLIST wants in!!
Email: andy_palasz@yahoo.com
Aim: xAWPx80

Games start on-line this Saturday 1:00pm eastern, passwords will be PM or e-mailed out
First come first served!
GL to all:D

[darkfire]

Count me in. I'm just a beginner, but, hell, we have to start somewhere, don't we?

EA ID: Bojacham
VG Sports ID: darkfire
AIM: darkfire3591
email: rmariano@nc.rr.com
team: Vikings

I'm a rock drummer by night...we have a gig where I'd have to leave by 4:30 - 5 pm. Would I be pushing it?

[detour1]

Originally posted by darkfire
Count me in. I'm just a beginner, but, hell, we have to start somewhere, don't we?

EA ID: Bojacham
VG Sports ID: darkfire
AIM: darkfire3591
email: rmariano@nc.rr.com
team: Vikings

I'm a rock drummer by night...we have a gig where I'd have to leave by 4:30 - 5 pm. Would I be pushing it? I'm a new guy too,

[detour1]

.oyea. we had a good game going to the end you started playing cheat.

[dirtfield]

Originally posted by detour1
just a beginner 256w - 99l .oyea. we had a good game going to the end you started playing cheat.

you played dirtfield no darkfire....i played realistic football you did not.....why would i let you get the ball back? when i could run the clock out and kick the winning fg...i played realistic...you played cheap and a really boring game...1 formation on offense and pretty much the same on defense..with bnr and blitz pretty much the whole game(i feel this is cheap..shows you have no football savy..if you know what i mean

[detour1]

yeah yeah.....:eek:

[darkfire]

I'm not sure what I did wrong, but I got to the room and no one was there. The room was VG Tourney, right? Even if the tourney summary said there were 8 players there. Took me a while to figure out that the password were all small letters without the first letter being capital...:p

Hope there were some good games. OK, ignorance time...what's bnr? Newbie showing... :rolleyes:

[detour1]

I try to get in also , but the pass word did not work for me.

[dirtfield]

bump and run

[darkfire]

Originally posted by dirtfield
bump and run

Thanks dirtfield! btw, when are you normally online? I'd like to get a game on...and hope I'd give you some decent comp :rolleyes:

[McMadden]

There were atleast 3 no shows. So I called it after an hour went by. Yeah I screwd up by having the rest of the password lowercase.

[McMadden]

If the the bracketts are filled then its not to late to try and get your games in. Just pm the player you are playing to set up the game.

[HabudaCuzz]

i have to say after playing fo awhile and leaving the strategy of cheap quick pases i always hated those 15-20 yd drop back passes... and the motion glitch is the biggest shyt i have ever seen giving me a problem all u can do is cover them manually but then they start runnin the ball down ur god damn fricken throat

[dirtfield]

Originally posted by darkfire
Thanks dirtfield! btw, when are you normally online? I'd like to get a game on...and hope I'd give you some decent comp :rolleyes:

no prob darkfire......it all depends on the day of the week and my wifes mood, lol!!! on mondays its iffy!!! but if im on its probably after 9pm est..tues; maybe around 430pm if at all!! weds im definitly on around 330pm est and around 8pm est..thurs day its a no go. friday 330pm and then around 930-10 pm and sat some in the morning 930 or so and sat nite after 9pm.....i'll put u on my buddy list

[gilster23]

I was one of the no shows because of the password. I never thought about using lowercase.

[BigDose]

I had the problem with the password too....
so anyway who won?
I'll be back there on the13th to win back the STR8 BALLer title.

[dirtfield]

i dont think you can say anyone won the title..only me and detour1 was online that i know of? so are we going to try again this sat? same time 1pm...if so we should create a vg room all meet in there and then determine how many teams the tourney will be for? of course this is in mcmaddens hands..

[darkfire]

Originally posted by McMadden
If the the bracketts are filled then its not to late to try and get your games in. Just pm the player you are playing to set up the game.

Just a few questions.

After logging into the room, VG Tourney, I expected to see the 8 players there that it showed in the summary. Why were they not there?

When I get there, how will I know who to play, when to play, etc. Haven't done this before. I didn't want to stare at the summary screen all day.

How long should a tourney of 8 to 12 players last? I have gigs normally on Sat nites so I want to make sure I can get some licks in. I bowed out, because one of the rules for the tourney said that if I forfeited the game...BOTH players would be eliminated. I didn't want to do that to someone so I got out of the room.

This tourney is single elimination, right?

[darkfire]

Originally posted by dirtfield
no prob darkfire......it all depends on the day of the week and my wifes mood, lol!!! on mondays its iffy!!! but if im on its probably after 9pm est..tues; maybe around 430pm if at all!! weds im definitly on around 330pm est and around 8pm est..thurs day its a no go. friday 330pm and then around 930-10 pm and sat some in the morning 930 or so and sat nite after 9pm.....i'll put u on my buddy list

Sounds good dirtfield. My VG name is Bojacham. I'll put you on my buddy list too. I'm normally on between 8 and 1 am almost every day. Do you know if after I do a username search, that you can add that person to buddy list after you find the user?

[braveheart1]

IM A STR8 BALLA

[dirtfield]

Originally posted by braveheart1
IM A STR8 BALLA

if so then why are you always looking for glitches? i have my doubts

[darkfire]

Originally posted by dirtfield
if so then why are you always looking for glitches? i have my doubts

ditto here, dirtfield. He's all over the glitch columns looking for 'em.

Tough game last night. Damn you're good. You were manually moving backs/SS/FS into positions almost as if you knew exactly where I was going. That ESP stuff got spooky...:eek:
I guess it just goes with experience. I did get some measure of satisfaction being able to slow down the run on GB some. But your passing picked the hell out of my seams and holes in the zones...:p

Looking forward to the next game. Hopefully, I'll give you more comp.

[dirtfield]

thnx for the compliments...u did good!! u just got urself in some predictable situations, and yes ur run def was nice held me in check pretty much the whole game..i ussually like to use the viks, but i'll use other teams also, we''ll have to hook up this weekend

[justncredible79]

Im super straight, just ask joe toronto, panzer, etc. Ill try to catch you guys this weekend to play.

[darkfire]

Originally posted by justncredible79
Im super straight, just ask joe toronto, panzer, etc. Ill try to catch you guys this weekend to play.

What's your EA on line name? When are you on line? East/West Rooms? Who do you use? These and more from the Regional Enquirer...when we return for this commercial break.

[McMadden]

Originally posted by darkfire
Just a few questions.

After logging into the room, VG Tourney, I expected to see the 8 players there that it showed in the summary. Why were they not there?

When I get there, how will I know who to play, when to play, etc. Haven't done this before. I didn't want to stare at the summary screen all day.

How long should a tourney of 8 to 12 players last? I have gigs normally on Sat nites so I want to make sure I can get some licks in. I bowed out, because one of the rules for the tourney said that if I forfeited the game...BOTH players would be eliminated. I didn't want to do that to someone so I got out of the room.

This tourney is single elimination, right?
Once the tourney room fills to capacity you will be able to see the brackets and who you play next. From there you just instant message him in the room or add him to your buddy list and monitor when he comes on line by going to www.easportsnation.com/games/madden2004/playerstats/home.jsp?playername=((log in with your screen name) then check your buddy list) or wait in the lobby. I set the tourney for 1 day, and its single elimination. If more than 8 people should show, 16, then I would set it to 3 days to complete. So an 8 player tourney you play 3 games to win it all in a day, 16 would be more and I doubt people would hang around for a 5 plus single game elimination tourney.

[McMadden]

Ok lets give it another go this weekend okay?

[McMadden]

Originally posted by bigmike27
I wanna enter in the tourny....how do i do this

Its On-line and just follow these examples

VG Name
AIM:
e-mail:
Team: (you plan on using on-line)
VG name: VG Tjiggy Plus
AIM: TonyPlatnum
E-mail: TonyPlatinum@yahoo.com
team: SeaHawks

Screen Name: VGMcMadden
Aim: mcmadden2
e-mail: jonrussell_2000@yahoo.com
team: Eagles

If I missed anyone please post your information below per the examples, thanks and GL! :D

[darkfire]

As much as I wanna participate this week, I've got a gig. Will hopefully meet up with you guys on 3/20.

So...after you play a game, who manages the tree...McFadden? Do you have to kinda keep staring at the tree, or how else will you know when it's you're turn to play...provided you haven't been eliminated.

[feverwilly]

Do you have be a part of the str8 group to play?

[McMadden]

No you do not, just play str8 :D

[justncredible79]

vgjustn
justncredible79
justncredible79@aol.com
colts

[darkfire]

Are we having one this Sat, 3/20? If so, I'm in.

VG Name: darkfire
EA Online name: Bojacham
email: rmariano@nc.rr.com
Vikings

See ya all there at 1 PM EST.

[McMadden]

Next tourney is this saturday 20 March at 11am easter, 10 am central, 9 am mountain, and 8am pacific, 3 days to complete your 1st round instead of all at once. So log in and the first 8 that show up are in. You can contact your opponent by looking here at his e-mail or AIM information posted earlier. GL to all!

[McMadden]

As a reminder if you are in post here your information like so.....

VG Name
AIM:
e-mail:
Team: (you plan on using on-line)

VG name: VG Tjiggy Plus
AIM: TonyPlatnum
E-mail: TonyPlatinum@yahoo.com
team: SeaHawks

Screen Name: VGMcMadden
Aim: mcmadden2
e-mail: jonrussell_2000@yahoo.com
team: Eagles

[darkfire]

Well, this weekend was disappointing. All these people said they were going to be there and only McFadden and I were there....and he had to go to work.:eek:

What's the deal people?

[Cant Stop RW]

I was on all weekend. I just didnt know there was a tourny goin on. :D :(

[darkfire]

Originally posted by McMadden
As a reminder if you are in post here your information like so.....

VG Name
AIM:
e-mail:
Team: (you plan on using on-line)

VG name: VG Tjiggy Plus
AIM: TonyPlatnum
E-mail: TonyPlatinum@yahoo.com
team: SeaHawks

Screen Name: VGMcMadden
Aim: mcmadden2
e-mail: jonrussell_2000@yahoo.com
team: Eagles

What's going on this weekend, McMadden?

[McMadden]

So guys I won't be heading this one up this weekend. I got school. Also I like to hear what time is best to have this thing, during the day or night?

[darkfire]

Weeknights:
After 7 PM

Weekends
Sat: during the day
Sun: after 6 PM

[Cant Stop RW]

Anytime really. :D

VG Name: Cant Stop RW
AIM: shinyheiny105
e-mail: lilheiny105@angelfire.com
Team: Chiefs

[TNT713]

Before I begin, I'll preface this with this. I am a Madden player second, and avid football fan first. I don't mind people playing with standards, but I shun players that feel thier standards should apply to everyone else. I follow a strict adherance to NFL rules, nothing more.

My opinions belong to me, and me only. They should not be viewed as an attempt to force them on anyone anymore than the original post should be viewed under a similar magnifying glass.

Lastly, I'm apologizing to McMadden. In no way is this a personnal attack as I have expereince in writing str8 rules (original rules for playmadden.us) and I know how hard it is to make everybody happy... that being said, here's my take on the rules you've written.

Originally posted by McMadden

1.Motion before the hike of the ball. WRs must clear the offensive line between the tackles, or TE if he is there when you motion the WR, and you must allow the DB to clear in front of the offensive line between the tackles (including the TE) This goes for backs and TE's also.

I don't follow this rule... As an offensive player, I have the right to snap the ball at anytime so long as only 1 player is moving parallel to the LOS or backwards. If I'm having trouble blocking a DT or DE with a single O-lineman, I use my motion WR to chip block on him to slow him up before running his route. Against man coverage often the CB will rubbed off in traffic, but that is a danger of running man-2-man that has been around since the 1920's.

2. Do not drop your QB back 15-20 yards to wait for a receiver to break his route. This is highly unrealistic and almost never happens in the NFL. Every "blue moon", maybe.

This one I follow because dropping back too far puts the QB at risk. The OT's wont be able to get good blocks on the DEs. Many times they won't block at all and both will come free. Too much risk... its best to take a 3 step drop and setup in the pocket, if there is pressure, stepup and run it up the middle.

3. One audible for a play. This goes for the offense only.

I don't abide by this one either. My offensive scheme is based on alot of motion and some shifting. Limiting the offense to one audible would only allow me to send 2 players in motion on any given play. i have a sheme that allows me to go from I form to a 4WR, 1TE look by motioning only 1 player at a time, but it requires several audibles.

4. Onside Kicks are not allowed unless down by 14 or more at any point of game.

I almost never kick onside kicks. But i have kicked a few when I was ahead because the retrun team wasn't looking for it. 9 times out of 10, field position is more valuable than possession. Besides, I have faith in my defense to get the ball back.

5. You must punt the ball if your not pass the 50 yard line unless down by 14 or more at any point of game. It 4th and inches, it does not matter, you must punt.

Punts are meant to trade field position for possession. Kicking is an OPTION. NEVER should the offense forfiet a down for the sake of "playing str8". The defense shoud be prepared to play defense any time they don't snap the ball. Anything less isn't football.


6. Click on click off not allowed. Controlling WR’s (TE,HB,FB included) before catch is allowed.

Most of the time I abide by this rule. The exception being when I have 2 or more receivers in the same area on deep passes. i'll move the primary guy to the spot, then switch to the second receiver and try to catch any deflected passes.

7. Goal Line can only be used inside the 20 yard line markers on both sides of the field.

Outlawing the oldest offense in football is shameful. :( What happened to stopping the run? Smashmouth has it's place, and it's not always in the redzones.

8. Do not run up the score, show your opponent some respect. If your up by 21 with 1 minute to go, do not go and try to score again.

I score until the end of the game. I try to stop my opponent until the end too. just because my opponent has given up, doesn't mean I should. My offense's job is to SCORE. That doesn't change no matter what the scoreboard says.

9. In depth chart, RB's will only be allowed to play their respective position along with playing FB and WR. WR's will only be allowed to play their position. TE's are eligible to play FB and vise versa. All D-lineman are interchangeable. LB's are interchangeable as well. Do not sub any LB's at any D-line positions. All secondary personnel are interchangeable.

This isn't football. In football subs are unlimited. I'm not sure what this rule is meant to do other than make defenses lazy. Speed mismatches are legal and should be allowed. There are too many young players that will learn to play football incorrectly if this rule is followed.

10. Stalling - Stalling of time permitted within the final minute of the first half and the final 3 minutes of the game.

i'm assuming that stalling is different than running the clock down before snapping the ball. If that's the case, Stalling is ALWAYS BAD. Running the clock is always good. Besides, the offense can't run the clock if they go 3 and out.

11. No Huddles - "No huddle offense" permitted within the final 2 minutes of each half and any OT period. Offense must allow defense to get back onsides. If an offsides penalty is called, the defense decides whether or not the penalty is accepted or declined by pausing the game and announcing their decision. Anytime a team is behind by more than 8 points - No huddle offense are allowed in the entire 4th quarter.

No huddle offenses should be legal from kickoff to the final gun for either team no matter what the score. By rule, the offense has the right to snap the ball whenever they want after the ball is spotted. its is the defenses job to get onsides.

12. Accidental No Huddles - unless 4th down, the member that accidently calls a "No huddle" at other times during the game must wait 10 seconds before snapping the ball and give defense time to set up. If 4th down and team would have normally picked field goal or punt - must use time out immediately unless you are in the last minute of the first half or last 3 minutes of game giving you the option of taking a delay of game penalty.

Forced timouts? Why can't the offense take a delay? Why must they wait to snap the ball?

13. Fake punts/field goals - No limit on fake field goals. Teams are allowed one fake punt per game. Punter must be in punters position on fake punts and kicker must be in kickers position on fake field goals.

Having a player at the kicker/punter position should be enough information for the defense to KNOW that a fake is coming. It should be a rule that the defense must PAY ATTENTION. If that were the case, this rule would not be required.

14. HB Pass play is not allowed.

BAD RULE. If the QB pitches the ball to a HB and he is still behind the LOS, the forward pass is now illegal, even if there are no linemen downfield? Once again, this rule bails out the defense instead of singing the praises of backside containment that prevents the back from running the opposite direction. Reading the offenisve line in a pass blocks should be enough to tip this play off as well...

15. Putting star players in to return punts and/or kickoffs. Players like Tim Brown, Champ Bailey, Deltha O'Neil, etc. do return kicks and players that use these teams will hear no complaints from me. However, players like Marshall Faulk, Clinton Portis, Priest Holmes, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, etc. DO NOT return kicks. Putting them back there is unrealistic and should not be done. This also applies to all other BS substitutions... Ask yourself, "Why am I doing this?". If you're looking to gain some advantage over your opponent through roster changes you are weak. The only advantage you should be looking for is your play calling ability vs. your opponent's

Every play is an attempt to gain an advantage over the opponent, no matter what plays are used. There is no such thing as a BS substitution. Coaches put their best 11 players on the field, if someone thinks that they will have success with a starter at KR or PR, that should be thier choice. By the way, Marshall Faulk has returned kickoffs before, he just doesn't do it often.

16. No Glitches or Nanos

Too vague. What is the difference? And why is there no premium on pass protection, blocking, moving the pocket, or adjustments?

17. Sportsmanship
Show respect to your opponent with a "GL", "GH", and "GG". Play the game realistically. Be a good winner and an even better loser. If you lose, compliment your opponent on his superb gameplay. Give credit where credit is due. (If) You got beat...take it like a man and get on with your life.

Great rule... except it's ambiguous. on one hand it says don't be a sore loser, but it's based on a list of rules that create the most vanilla football possible.

I like the SPIRIT of these rules and what they are INTENDED to do. But I could never abide by them in good conscience and still consider myself a "football" player. Nor could I consider anyone that refuses to play others that don't abide by these rules to be a "football" player either. There's simply too much football left on the table.

Later

P.S. Don't everybody bash me at once. LOL

[dirtfield]

Originally posted by TNT713
Before I begin, I'll preface this with this. I am a Madden player second, and avid football fan first. I don't mind people playing with standards, but I shun players that feel thier standards should apply to everyone else. I follow a strict adherance to NFL rules, nothing more.

My opinions belong to me, and me only. They should not be viewed as an attempt to force them on anyone anymore than the original post should be viewed under a similar magnifying glass.

Lastly, I'm apologizing to McMadden. In no way is this a personnal attack as I have expereince in writing str8 rules (original rules for playmadden.us) and I know how hard it is to make everybody happy... that being said, here's my take on the rules you've written.



I don't follow this rule... As an offensive player, I have the right to snap the ball at anytime so long as only 1 player is moving parallel to the LOS or backwards. If I'm having trouble blocking a DT or DE with a single O-lineman, I use my motion WR to chip block on him to slow him up before running his route. Against man coverage often the CB will rubbed off in traffic, but that is a danger of running man-2-man that has been around since the 1920's.



This one I follow because dropping back too far puts the QB at risk. The OT's wont be able to get good blocks on the DEs. Many times they won't block at all and both will come free. Too much risk... its best to take a 3 step drop and setup in the pocket, if there is pressure, stepup and run it up the middle.



I don't abide by this one either. My offensive scheme is based on alot of motion and some shifting. Limiting the offense to one audible would only allow me to send 2 players in motion on any given play. i have a sheme that allows me to go from I form to a 4WR, 1TE look by motioning only 1 player at a time, but it requires several audibles.



I almost never kick onside kicks. But i have kicked a few when I was ahead because the retrun team wasn't looking for it. 9 times out of 10, field position is more valuable than possession. Besides, I have faith in my defense to get the ball back.



Punts are meant to trade field position for possession. Kicking is an OPTION. NEVER should the offense forfiet a down for the sake of "playing str8". The defense shoud be prepared to play defense any time they don't snap the ball. Anything less isn't football.




Most of the time I abide by this rule. The exception being when I have 2 or more receivers in the same area on deep passes. i'll move the primary guy to the spot, then switch to the second receiver and try to catch any deflected passes.



Outlawing the oldest offense in football is shameful. :( What happened to stopping the run? Smashmouth has it's place, and it's not always in the redzones.



I score until the end of the game. I try to stop my opponent until the end too. just because my opponent has given up, doesn't mean I should. My offense's job is to SCORE. That doesn't change no matter what the scoreboard says.



This isn't football. In football subs are unlimited. I'm not sure what this rule is meant to do other than make defenses lazy. Speed mismatches are legal and should be allowed. There are too many young players that will learn to play football incorrectly if this rule is followed.



i'm assuming that stalling is different than running the clock down before snapping the ball. If that's the case, Stalling is ALWAYS BAD. Running the clock is always good. Besides, the offense can't run the clock if they go 3 and out.



No huddle offenses should be legal from kickoff to the final gun for either team no matter what the score. By rule, the offense has the right to snap the ball whenever they want after the ball is spotted. its is the defenses job to get onsides.



Forced timouts? Why can't the offense take a delay? Why must they wait to snap the ball?



Having a player at the kicker/punter position should be enough information for the defense to KNOW that a fake is coming. It should be a rule that the defense must PAY ATTENTION. If that were the case, this rule would not be required.



BAD RULE. If the QB pitches the ball to a HB and he is still behind the LOS, the forward pass is now illegal, even if there are no linemen downfield? Once again, this rule bails out the defense instead of singing the praises of backside containment that prevents the back from running the opposite direction. Reading the offenisve line in a pass blocks should be enough to tip this play off as well...



Every play is an attempt to gain an advantage over the opponent, no matter what plays are used. There is no such thing as a BS substitution. Coaches put their best 11 players on the field, if someone thinks that they will have success with a starter at KR or PR, that should be thier choice. By the way, Marshall Faulk has returned kickoffs before, he just doesn't do it often.



Too vague. What is the difference? And why is there no premium on pass protection, blocking, moving the pocket, or adjustments?



Great rule... except it's ambiguous. on one hand it says don't be a sore loser, but it's based on a list of rules that create the most vanilla football possible.

I like the SPIRIT of these rules and what they are INTENDED to do. But I could never abide by them in good conscience and still consider myself a "football" player. Nor could I consider anyone that refuses to play others that don't abide by these rules to be a "football" player either. There's simply too much football left on the table.

Later

P.S. Don't everybody bash me at once. LOL

news flash...you need glitches and bs play to compete

news flash 2 the rules are set you either agree and play by them or you dont agree and dont play!!! its as simple as that!!

[TNT713]

Dirt...

Am I missing something? I don't remember ever playing you. perhaps you can refresh my memory...

I also don't remember needing your permission to play. Nothing personal, but I respect your opinion assuming it is based on some form of the truth. Being that wev'e never played, you can't possibly have any truth to on which to base your opinion.

If you'd like to PLAY, so you can see my game for yourself (just don't run Cover 2 the whole game like gtrght420 did or it will get ugly, QUICK).

Until then... I promise not to make comments about your game. If we never play, I'll never comment about your game.

Later

[alski is grim]

im straight balla whos been getting pulp fictioned by dudes cheatin i should be about 17-1 ranked around 4 or 5 thosand any ya boys name is grims here