The official Women suck thread

[Bearfanmike20]

Women suck...

not in a good way either.

You poor years of love and attention and devotion and loyalty... and caring and passion into them... and they stab you in the heart.

I'll never make that mistake again. I'm NEVER going to trust another woman again. They ALL lie cheat decieve....

Why does it hurt sooo bad..???


ps... I know I'm not 30 but I relate to the older crowd much better then the youngsters, and this is a problem.. they wouldn't understand.

[KenFalco]

ps... I know I'm not 30 but I relate to the older crowd much better then the youngsters, and this is a problem.. they wouldn't understand.

I second that... It's really tough to take advice/support from 13 year olds.. (that understand because they saw this ish on SPRINGER...:rolleyes: )

[Bearfanmike20]

I second that... It's really tough to take advice/support from 13 year olds.. (that understand because they saw this ish on SPRINGER...:rolleyes: )
Bwaaaa hahahaha.. that was funny....

I think maurey is the more knoledgeable right....

anyway... I just cant believe this is happening... I still love her... if she told be that she changed her mind right now, I'd be running back... It just sux.

[Zymotic]

Just dont shoot up any schools because of it...

And look at the bright side, you get to spend the rest of your life taking out your anger on every other women in the world because of what some b!tch did to you when you were 15 ... or whatever not yet 30 means... ;)

[Bearfanmike20]

Just dont shoot up any schools because of it...

And look at the bright side, you get to spend the rest of your life taking out your anger on every other women in the world because of what some b!tch did to you when you were 15 ... or whatever not yet 30 means... ;)
I'm 27.. I have two kids... me wife and I have been togother for 10 years...

I'm NEVER trusting another woman again. :mad:

[KenFalco]

I'm 27.. I have two kids... me wife and I have been togother for 10 years...

I'm NEVER trusting another woman again. :mad:


You've seen that Little Rascals movie right?

HE-MAN WOMUN HATERS CLUB;)

[Bearfanmike20]

You've seen that Little Rascals movie right?

HE-MAN WOMUN HATERS CLUB;)
Sign me up butwheat.... ;)

[Bearfanmike20]

You know whats funny... women have the nerve to say.. MEN are pigs... :rolleyes:

[Zymotic]

getting married at 17 ... another good idea...

[Aaight]

Have you guys tried counseling? I'm not trying to be funny, but counseling really works in some instances.

[Bearfanmike20]

getting married at 17 ... another good idea...
LOL.. together means thats when we started dating.. we didn't get married till after we had our son. LOL

but befor my daughter... I was 24... so we were married for almost 3 years... we've been togother for almost 10....

sorry for the confusion....

[Bearfanmike20]

Have you guys tried counseling? I'm not trying to be funny, but counseling really works in some instances.
ya... not working for us. just pissed us both off.. more....

nothing we did... the counselor would be late.. or wouldn't show up.... LOL

funny huh... almost a sign....

[Iamonebigmofo]

ya... not working for us. just pissed us both off.. more....

nothing we did... the counselor would be late.. or wouldn't show up.... LOL

funny huh... almost a sign....

A sign to find a better counselor. Ask around, do some research. You shouldn't give up after a bad experience with one counselor. I definitely recommend trying to get in with someone else. Do it for the kids.

[Paydirt404]

If the couseling doesnt work, at least you know where you stand at bro. Dont hate all women because of that, the next woman you meet doesnt have anything to do with what your wife did to you, I know Im saying this from the outside looking in. Somewhere there is some woman that would love to have a man, and would treat them like a king, appreciate him for what he (you) are worth. Take your time to go through your marriage ordeal, but know that life goes on, and there is always light at the end of the tunnel. God wont put anything on you that you cannot bear.:)

My child's mother lied to me while we were dating about taking her birth control pills. I found out from her best friend after my daughter was born that she had planned on getting pregnant(stopped taking her pills and didnt tell me) and shotgun marrying me. Needless to say I have a beautiful daughter, but Im not with my child's mother. I met the woman of my dream afterwards and we are together now. It took a while for me to trust women again, cause everytime I thought about it, "lying bytch" or "trifling ho" would come out my mouth when I mentioned my childs mother. I moved on, forgave her for that, and we are raising our child now, with no problems. The whole point of going through that is that I understand how you feel, it will take time to heal when you feel like you have been done wrong.

If this doesnt work out with your wife, you are an eligible bachelor, and remember there's a shyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyytload of sexy women out there compared to us, some even are diehard football fans. Take care bro, be easy. Matter of fact, play the Packers with your Bears, beat the shyt of them, that makes me feel better when I smoke the Panthers with my hometown Falcons. :D
Holla at me B.

[KenFalco]

If this doesnt work out with your wife, you are an eligible bachelor, and remember there's a shyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyytload of sexy women out there

If I were home in the A this would be true... nothin' out here but.. 3s and 4s. Dimes? LMFAO.... Maybe a Nickel every now and then... mostly Pennies... :D

[Paydirt404]

If I were home in the A this would be true... nothin' out here but.. 3s and 4s. Dimes? LMFAO.... Maybe a Nickel every now and then... mostly Pennies... :D

Might be time for you to move on back bro....its almost summertime! You know what that means....butt naked azz everywhere!!:D

[Zymotic]

Is your soon to be ex a 3 or a 4 ?

[Bearfanmike20]

We talked alot last night... She doesn't want to leave..

we are going to try one more time, but there is alot of damage.. its going to be hard... but we are going to try.. ONE MORE TIME.

[miracle]

We talked alot last night... She doesn't want to leave..

we are going to try one more time, but there is alot of damage.. its going to be hard... but we are going to try.. ONE MORE TIME.


what all happen mike? this over 1 incident or over a matter of years building up?

[bk1998]

We talked alot last night... She doesn't want to leave..

we are going to try one more time, but there is alot of damage.. its going to be hard... but we are going to try.. ONE MORE TIME.

Good luck.

[KenFalco]

Is your soon to be ex a 3 or a 4 ?

When I met her 10... after first kid 9.7.... after second kid 9.3..... after third kid 8.7.. She's still quite hot... and has skills... skills... skills... I will miss those private 'clap' sessions...:mad:

Might be time for you to move on back bro....its almost summertime! You know what that means....butt naked azz everywhere!!:D

Indeed.. Indeed... Indeed...... I think I might have to stroll out for a couple of weeks this summer... even if I just hit the streets and just layback, relax and watch the azz... :( There ain't much positive jiggle out here... only 'hot nickel booty/thighs' :D

I would look into a transfer for work, but honestly.. I really,really enjoy my 5th story loft for $650 a month :D

[Bearfanmike20]

what all happen mike? this over 1 incident or over a matter of years building up?
Years of buildup... mixed with majore incitents....

alot of *****... **** that two young people never should have had to endure... some our fault.. some by now fault of ours....

[Skinsman 68]

They don't all suck, just most of them. No doubt, you have every right to feel pissed off, betrayed, hurt, etc. But, it might just be her thats the problem. I know when I went through my divorce, I felt the exact same way you do. I didn't want to trust anyone or anybody ever again. And, it took me 4 years to find the right woman, but I was able to do that. It just takes time bro. Its a cliche, but time does heal everything. That doesn't help much now, but in a few months things will be better. You just have to weather this personal storm you are going through and I am sure you will come out of this OK.

As far as this, "stay together for the kids" stuff, I am a big believer that with kids involved, you have to do everything you can to try and salvage your marriage. Unfortunately, Mike, you guys might already be there and it doesn't seem to be working. If thats the case, then staying together for the kids is the worst thing to do. It doesn't make what you are going through any easier, but what the little ones are going through may be ten times worse and have a much greater impact on their lives later on than it will on either you or her. I know you know this. I just hope she is taking this into consideration as well.

Man, I am so sorry for you. I really hoped you guys were going to be able to work things out. I wish you nothing but the best. Hopefully you will be back on the sticks more when '08 hits. A few easy wins over me and you'll be feeling much better:D

[rank is dumb]

I'm 27.. I have two kids... me wife and I have been togother for 10 years...

I'm NEVER trusting another woman again. :mad:

Not all women suck and cheat. And there is no reason not to trust women.. You guys started at 17.. People out grow people. Sometimes people find they want diffrent things in life.. Your 27.. No reason why you can't find someone else and be happy for the rest of your life..

Don't fall into the POOR ME stage.. Cause some people never come out of it.. Instead say I'm glad I found out now and not when i'm 50!!

[hakaida]

Have you figured out how much child support and alimony will be? That could be a real incentive to work it out unless it's unbearable. I could never get tied down to one woman. I get bored of them after 3 months or so.

[R-ILLA]

Lose one gain one (not in those exact words)
-Brotha lynch Hung

[GAV]

Have you ever considered just sitting down with your wife...
http://bendersworld.tripod.com/bender-pimp.jpg
...and hitting her? :p


I'm joking obviously. A little sacrifice can go a long way. Its not what you say,
but what you do. Try spending a day focused on your wife's interests. Sometimes
we aren't even aware of what our wives are interested in. The everyday rush clouds
communication. Suggest dropping the kids at Mom's for a day and spending the day
together. Memories are made one day at a time, and the memories of one day can
last a long time.

[drunkenstarfish]

Gav this doesn't always work.
One time I decide to come home from work early because I knew she was off the day and the kids had stayed at grandma's because of no school.
I came home and she said what are you doing home? I said I thought we'd spend some time together. She says I had plans to go to town with Marilyn(her aide at school).
I said it's cool do you know when you'll be home round abouts? Shouldn't be to long we are dropping her husbands car off and going to lunch. Should be home around 1:30. Kids are coming home at 4:30 we got plenty of time.
Needless to say 1:30 rolled around. 4:30 rolled around. Kids came home no wife. She comes in at 6:30 and is all smiles. I blow up. She says you knew I had plans. It's not my fault it's yours. I didn't know I had a curfew. You knew I was home all phuggin day waiting for you to come home at the time YOU gave me.

We have been together for 15 years and have two beautiful children I would not trade for anything in the world.
BUT what I wouldn't give for a wife that wanted to be with me alone at times.
Although I have a concions and have never cheated. If a woman was to show me affection right now and alittle attention I would have a hard time turning the other cheek.

When I was going through anger management for the second time I tried to get her to go to the counselor with me and she said I don't think there is a problem.

My mom of all people said just put alittle fear in her! I don't mean beat her but grab ahold of her one time and it will straighten her up. She is alittle old and crazy. My dad looked at me and said yea a woman is like a drum you have to beat them every once in awhile to keep them in tune. Then rolled his eyes. He said the best thing you can do is just say yes dear to everything lol.

[Bearfanmike20]

Gav this doesn't always work.
One time I decide to come home from work early because I knew she was off the day and the kids had stayed at grandma's because of no school.
I came home and she said what are you doing home? I said I thought we'd spend some time together. She says I had plans to go to town with Marilyn(her aide at school).
I said it's cool do you know when you'll be home round abouts? Shouldn't be to long we are dropping her husbands car off and going to lunch. Should be home around 1:30. Kids are coming home at 4:30 we got plenty of time.
Needless to say 1:30 rolled around. 4:30 rolled around. Kids came home no wife. She comes in at 6:30 and is all smiles. I blow up. She says you knew I had plans. It's not my fault it's yours. I didn't know I had a curfew. You knew I was home all phuggin day waiting for you to come home at the time YOU gave me.

We have been together for 15 years and have two beautiful children I would not trade for anything in the world.
BUT what I wouldn't give for a wife that wanted to be with me alone at times.
Although I have a concions and have never cheated. If a woman was to show me affection right now and alittle attention I would have a hard time turning the other cheek.

When I was going through anger management for the second time I tried to get her to go to the counselor with me and she said I don't think there is a problem.

My mom of all people said just put alittle fear in her! I don't mean beat her but grab ahold of her one time and it will straighten her up. She is alittle old and crazy. My dad looked at me and said yea a woman is like a drum you have to beat them every once in awhile to keep them in tune. Then rolled his eyes. He said the best thing you can do is just say yes dear to everything lol.


That aint right man... :(

[GAV]

Gav this doesn't always work.
One time I decide to come home from work early because I knew she was off the day and the kids had stayed at grandma's because of no school.
I came home and she said what are you doing home? I said I thought we'd spend some time together. She says I had plans to go to town with Marilyn(her aide at school).
I said it's cool do you know when you'll be home round abouts? Shouldn't be to long we are dropping her husbands car off and going to lunch. Should be home around 1:30. Kids are coming home at 4:30 we got plenty of time.
Needless to say 1:30 rolled around. 4:30 rolled around. Kids came home no wife. She comes in at 6:30 and is all smiles. I blow up. She says you knew I had plans. It's not my fault it's yours. I didn't know I had a curfew. You knew I was home all phuggin day waiting for you to come home at the time YOU gave me.

We have been together for 15 years and have two beautiful children I would not trade for anything in the world.
BUT what I wouldn't give for a wife that wanted to be with me alone at times.
Although I have a concions and have never cheated. If a woman was to show me affection right now and alittle attention I would have a hard time turning the other cheek.

When I was going through anger management for the second time I tried to get her to go to the counselor with me and she said I don't think there is a problem.

My mom of all people said just put alittle fear in her! I don't mean beat her but grab ahold of her one time and it will straighten her up. She is alittle old and crazy. My dad looked at me and said yea a woman is like a drum you have to beat them every once in awhile to keep them in tune. Then rolled his eyes. He said the best thing you can do is just say yes dear to everything lol.
What was her interest at the time?
Staying home wasn't the answer. Going was.

[themenace47]

women say that men dont know what they want but thats retarded, the problem is that... if they ever spent 5 full seconds giving a **** about what we wanted they might not have so much time to contemplate how horrible their men are. and in case anybody is confused they want everything her way all the time.

if your wife is physically attractive she is not going to change nor is she gonna sacrifice ****. and honestly why should she... the way most females see it these days... marriages are like long term r-ships that last as long as you dont ever do or say one thing she doesnt like.

remember by the standards most *****es set, you'd be justified in seeking companionship outside the marriage just because she doesnt respect madden and its important to you. :eek:

her friends will encourage her not to put up with anything and for some reason they always want everybody elses r-ship to end.

every time she goes outside or online there WILL be dudes waiting... dudes that will tell her whatever sorry **** she wants to hear. in the event of a break up, she will keep the kids regardless of anything you want and her power over you will be a lot greater once you have to bargain with her for your money, time with your children and everything else that once mattered to you.

if she has been unfaithful you are justified in ending the relationship, if not then you really should do your best to lead your family, but you must realize right now that its probably going to include you accepting her as she is right now and if any changes are made on her part it'll most likely be for the worse.

i suggest that any dude who thinks he's dealing with a woman who cant be trusted should immediately install a keylogger on your cpu and see if you are not completely in shock with what is said when she thinks you arent looking.

i have known very few honest women, and the best thing they ever have to say for themselves is... men do it all the time

ive been with my girl for about 7 years now and for the first 5 she was always doing crazy **** and threatening to leave and the more i got upset and actually gave a **** the worse it got.

2 years ago i just threw her *** out, and she wanted to come back and said she'd do counselling so i went along with it. at first she was same ole bull**** but something happened though and i just dont give a **** about her anymore, she actually threatened to leave 1 more time after she came back and i was like who cares, go... and i stopped doing anything at all for her and i dont do the dirty work for her kids anymore at all, im not even sure i bought her a present on Christmas. i dont clean **** of hers, i dont run errands, i dont cook unless i get tired of eating her nasty excuses for cooking, i dont have sex with her anymore unless im asleep and having a good dream and forget where the **** i am and who i am with....i dont put up with jack **** from her at all. i dont even promise fidelity anymore, nor do i act like i care what she does, what she says or who she does it with

i sit on the mother ****in couch and yell at the tv while i play madden, i installed a little tv she can watch or she can just go somewhere else if she doesnt like it or she can watch tv upstairs either way i dont give a **** ... i take the internet cable when i want it, and we dont go places together or anything and i sure as **** dont sit there and hang out with her idiot, fat, ****in ugly *** friends and sisters...

all of a sudden she quit drinking, started taking care of everything, and being as nice as she can, honestly over the past 2 years i have begun too feel so guilty about my new attitude that i get acid reflux at night and just wish i wasnt this much of a dick... but too bad, ive just spent 20+ years in a row now since the first girl i ever dated not getting anything positive from a r-ship.

the more you care about a *****, the more she'll twist it around when she wants to go off with somebody else, and even brad pitts girl is "off with somebody else" now so just remember

we dont have songs about what a man wants... because somehow we have a choice in how much we are going to care. just dont be ashamed to say you've had enough, and its time you get something in return.

every guy has been there... or else american beauty wouldnt have been such a great movie.

who needs a cheating, *****ing tramp-o-rama of a wife when we can just have a trans-am, a babysitter fantasy and a nice bag of some sticky bud

i did quit smoking up, and i do think i should meet my girlfriend halfway but im not holding any high expectations for her or any other females, as soon as i force myself to start trying again im sure we'll be right back to the B.S.

any bltch would be kidding herself to think ill ever treat her better than she treats me now that ive seen this in action.

and fyi (this is very good to know) at 35 a woman usually wants sex a lot more than they did at 20 and if you dont really act like you crave it like a starving dog anymore they'll do anything to get that power back.

well anything except diet and exercise

[Bearfanmike20]

women say that men dont know what they want but thats retarded, the problem is that... if they ever spent 5 full seconds giving a **** about what we wanted they might not have so much time to contemplate how horrible their men are. and in case anybody is confused they want everything her way all the time.

if your wife is physically attractive she is not going to change nor is she gonna sacrifice ****. and honestly why should she... the way most females see it these days... marriages are like long term r-ships that last as long as you dont ever do or say one thing she doesnt like.

remember by the standards most *****es set, you'd be justified in seeking companionship outside the marriage just because she doesnt respect madden and its important to you. :eek:

her friends will encourage her not to put up with anything and for some reason they always want everybody elses r-ship to end.

every time she goes outside or online there WILL be dudes waiting... dudes that will tell her whatever sorry **** she wants to hear. in the event of a break up, she will keep the kids regardless of anything you want and her power over you will be a lot greater once you have to bargain with her for your money, time with your children and everything else that once mattered to you.

if she has been unfaithful you are justified in ending the relationship, if not then you really should do your best to lead your family, but you must realize right now that its probably going to include you accepting her as she is right now and if any changes are made on her part it'll most likely be for the worse.

i suggest that any dude who thinks he's dealing with a woman who cant be trusted should immediately install a keylogger on your cpu and see if you are not completely in shock with what is said when she thinks you arent looking.

i have known very few honest women, and the best thing they ever have to say for themselves is... men do it all the time

ive been with my girl for about 7 years now and for the first 5 she was always doing crazy **** and threatening to leave and the more i got upset and actually gave a **** the worse it got.

2 years ago i just threw her *** out, and she wanted to come back and said she'd do counselling so i went along with it. at first she was same ole bull**** but something happened though and i just dont give a **** about her anymore, she actually threatened to leave 1 more time after she came back and i was like who cares, go... and i stopped doing anything at all for her and i dont do the dirty work for her kids anymore at all, im not even sure i bought her a present on Christmas. i dont clean **** of hers, i dont run errands, i dont cook unless i get tired of eating her nasty excuses for cooking, i dont have sex with her anymore unless im asleep and having a good dream and forget where the **** i am and who i am with....i dont put up with jack **** from her at all. i dont even promise fidelity anymore, nor do i act like i care what she does, what she says or who she does it with

i sit on the mother ****in couch and yell at the tv while i play madden, i installed a little tv she can watch or she can just go somewhere else if she doesnt like it or she can watch tv upstairs either way i dont give a **** ... i take the internet cable when i want it, and we dont go places together or anything and i sure as **** dont sit there and hang out with her idiot, fat, ****in ugly *** friends and sisters...

all of a sudden she quit drinking, started taking care of everything, and being as nice as she can, honestly over the past 2 years i have begun too feel so guilty about my new attitude that i get acid reflux at night and just wish i wasnt this much of a dick... but too bad, ive just spent 20+ years in a row now since the first girl i ever dated not getting anything positive from a r-ship.

the more you care about a *****, the more she'll twist it around when she wants to go off with somebody else, and even brad pitts girl is "off with somebody else" now so just remember

we dont have songs about what a man wants... because somehow we have a choice in how much we are going to care. just dont be ashamed to say you've had enough, and its time you get something in return.

every guy has been there... or else american beauty wouldnt have been such a great movie.

who needs a cheating, *****ing tramp-o-rama of a wife when we can just have a trans-am, a babysitter fantasy and a nice bag of some sticky bud

i did quit smoking up, and i do think i should meet my girlfriend halfway but im not holding any high expectations for her or any other females, as soon as i force myself to start trying again im sure we'll be right back to the B.S.

any bltch would be kidding herself to think ill ever treat her better than she treats me now that ive seen this in action.

and fyi (this is very good to know) at 35 a woman usually wants sex a lot more than they did at 20 and if you dont really act like you crave it like a starving dog anymore they'll do anything to get that power back.

well anything except diet and exercise


I dont even know what to say to this....

[Zymotic]

I dont even know what to say to this....

I think the phrase you are looking for is " KOO KOO " as you do the little looney hand movement next to your head without him seeing...

I had the same reaction. It did help me to understand his other posts though, knowing what well of reason and logic his responses are coming from.
:p

[Bearfanmike20]

I think the phrase you are looking for is " KOO KOO " as you do the little looney hand movement next to your head without him seeing...

I had the same reaction. It did help me to understand his other posts though, knowing what well of reason and logic his responses are coming from.
:p
I did agree with one thing.....

We need to stop panting like dogs in heat over sex... maybe they will want more of it then...

The rest... well.. not sure about that... ;)

but thanks for the advice just the same.

[Zymotic]

I did agree with one thing.....

We need to stop panting like dogs in heat over sex... maybe they will want more of it then...

The rest... well.. not sure about that... ;)

but thanks for the advice just the same.

Ditto... "The Rest" is the part that's got me worried. Sounds like he was in hell, so he just gave up and turned into a jerk and the jerk thing is working so he is sticking with it but he hates it because he really isnt a jerk but has to behave like one to get his chick in line ... sounds like insanity. And I wonder if there doesn't come a point from which there is no return from jerkdom.

[themenace47]

ya, its pretty bitter but im not gonna sugarcoat it to make it appeal more to guys like zymotic who troll these boards looking to put people down.

i haven't really had very good experiences with long term r-ships with women... to say the least

im defenitely still bitter about my kids gettin snatched away by my x wife

i treat everyone with respect and they dont have to earn it, but after a person makes it clear that they cant be trusted to share that same respect i just stop pretending they are going to.

it took 5 years to get where we are now and when i met my girlfriend she acted a certain way but it was all an act. she started going out all the time and drinking, she just could not tell the truth to save her own life and all her big talk about loving to work and care for her kids turned out to be the worst joke i ever saw. she'd pick fights over anything.

but now, she finished her night college, has held the same job for almost 3 years, cooks for her kids, and got rid of the alcohol problem, stopped smoking and seems to give a **** about this r-ship.

im such a looney toon.

the typical way a guy handles it is to leave, cheat, or beat.

i just decided im going to do what makes me happy too and still see if we cant make it work.

but zymidiot is right about 1 thing too, im not sure i can "come back" because of how comfortable it really is when you stop stressing out.

im just saying there is freedom in knowing that your girl is gonna do whatever makes her happy without regard to you, so at least you can organize the rest of your life accordingly.

ill go chat up somebody's seperated wife today and ill come back and post the transcripts after i act all sensitive and pretend to really want to care for her kids and if you dont piss on yourself with anger... you arent man enough to play madden anyway.

dont come to a women suck thread to tell us how sweet they are and dont piss on my back and tell me its raining.

with that said my girl does deserve a little break from the madden so ill go find something nice to get for her and take her to see knocked up tonight so she feels a little better about dating such a loser. (aka koo koo)

[Zymotic]

Dude, here you go again being super sensitive and nuts about stuff. So you read into my response that I'm sticking up for your woman and that she has it bad ? I couldn't care less about her. But I think it's a shame that you are feeling bad about being a jerk. Maybe I misunderstood your post but it sounded like you were at the end of the rope with this chick and wanted to get rid of her... so you act like a jerk , which all of the sudden gets her in line. But now you feel you have to continue the jerk show to keep her straight. Do you enjoy being something other then you are , to get her to be something other then she is ? It just sounds like you are in a very unhappy relationship and I'm wondering why you are trying to keep it going at all ? You say your ex has "your" kids, and your gf takes care of "her" kids. So ... if you dont have kids with this chick what is keeping you with her ? I'm not hating on you... I just can't understand why you are staying in it... and then posting about it like you have no choice... It's nutty... hence the KOO KOO response. Do you smoke weed ?

[Bearfanmike20]

ya, its pretty bitter but im not gonna sugarcoat it to make it appeal more to guys like zymotic who troll these boards looking to put people down.

i haven't really had very good experiences with long term r-ships with women... to say the least

im defenitely still bitter about my kids gettin snatched away by my x wife

i treat everyone with respect and they dont have to earn it, but after a person makes it clear that they cant be trusted to share that same respect i just stop pretending they are going to.

it took 5 years to get where we are now and when i met my girlfriend she acted a certain way but it was all an act. she started going out all the time and drinking, she just could not tell the truth to save her own life and all her big talk about loving to work and care for her kids turned out to be the worst joke i ever saw. she'd pick fights over anything.

but now, she finished her night college, has held the same job for almost 3 years, cooks for her kids, and got rid of the alcohol problem, stopped smoking and seems to give a **** about this r-ship.

im such a looney toon.

the typical way a guy handles it is to leave, cheat, or beat.

i just decided im going to do what makes me happy too and still see if we cant make it work.

but zymidiot is right about 1 thing too, im not sure i can "come back" because of how comfortable it really is when you stop stressing out.

im just saying there is freedom in knowing that your girl is gonna do whatever makes her happy without regard to you, so at least you can organize the rest of your life accordingly.

ill go chat up somebody's seperated wife today and ill come back and post the transcripts after i act all sensitive and pretend to really want to care for her kids and if you dont piss on yourself with anger... you arent man enough to play madden anyway.

dont come to a women suck thread to tell us how sweet they are and dont piss on my back and tell me its raining.

with that said my girl does deserve a little break from the madden so ill go find something nice to get for her and take her to see knocked up tonight so she feels a little better about dating such a loser. (aka koo koo)

I have question... Are you going out of your way to be a jerk or are you just not going out of your way to make her happy....

ex... do you walk in the house and say "b1tch wheres my dinner??"

or do you just walk in the house and get yourself a tv dinner heat it up and sit down and watch tv and just ignore her....

or none of the above...

[themenace47]

i'm not acting a certain way or being different to make her change, i just got so sick of the nonsense that she likes to dish out that i dont go out of my way at all, and im not even really a jerk in the sense that i just do whatever i want and dont do anything i dont want to.

if she doesnt like it fine... our r-ship is waaay past the fun stages anyway and she can go move on for all i care...

example: my friend and i were playing madden all day and she went downstairs to "do laundry" which resulted in zero laundry and 6 hours of tv, then at 9:30pm she decided maybe her and her kids should eat and came up thinking i would snap-to... lol - i let her know my friend doesnt like pork so she could get us some pizza or "whatever, i'm really not hungry anyway, just get whatever ya want"

and i do have a freezer full of my favorite tv dinners... 88 cents each pot roast meal from banquet.

its kinda like this ...

"look im not mowing the yard, fixing the cars, cleaning the garage, planting the garden and then coming in to do your work too"

her= "why the **** is it my work? cuz im a girl?"

"no cuz you need clean clothes, do you want to trade jobs"

her= i dont give a **** about the grass

"i dont care about your clothes either. just set mine aside and ill wash em later"

but by far... the biggest problem is the sex... she says its not worth it to work out and she just keeps gaining weight, her attitude sucks and i got tired of begging for it anyway...

i mean its just like another job anyway, she lays there on her back and has orgasm after orgasm and i do all the work for 10 seconds of fun. then she complains that i sweat alot or whatever else...

i started out just thinking i want to do whats right and we arent married. i also thought that it would motivate us to get closer, but she just got all assinine again. at first she would try to get it going by complaining how she never gets any, then she tried to shame me into it by putting me down in front of my friends... then she got very upset because occasionally when im asleep ill be so sex starved that ill start doing stuff to her and she'll get into it (believe it or not its 100% true) and then ill wake up and stop and she gets hurt because she thinks i was fantasizing about someone else.... which is sometimes true but obviously i cant say that without hurting her so i dont. now her feelings are really hurt anyway because she feels like i dont want her, which is true, but i just got to be kind of disgusted by her attitude, her physical condition and all the fighting.

anyway it got to be easy to not have sex, i mean we all know how quick and easy it really is to cure those urges when we need to. when i was younger it was just like this in reverse anyway, *****es should understand, oddly enough they dont though, they tell her not to put up with it, and she shouldnt wait and bla bla bla, but i dont really care what she does, i dont ask, i dont check up on her... it would be a miracle if she hasnt cheated already.

the next time i have sex, ill be married and its gonna be with a sexy girl that really wants to show what she's able to bring to the table, if thats her fine... if not fine.

funny thing is that now she wants that power back so bad, she'll even offer to just "take care" of me all the time, and she could be dying of a 105 degree fever and middle of deep sleep but if she thought i wanted to she'd be ready in less time than your internet dude can run a 40. (4.02 seconds):D

[drunkenstarfish]

What exactly makes you think if you treat one woman like this you won't treat the rest like this?
I think your missing the point here. If someone wants to work things out what works?
If you don't wanna work things out and could care less about anything why stick around?

[themenace47]

i feel like a lot of us stay around for the kids... or in my case financial reasons, she has 3 kids, i have 2 and neither of us could live this comfortably without the double paychecks, the kids get used to their friends, home etc...

i have no intention of changing...

and treat a woman like what???? seriously ive put up with enough bull**** imo. women do whatever the **** they want, whenever they want. and they focus completely on themselves, their feelings and their happiness

it just seems pointless that 2 people would focus on 1 being happy. but if thats for you... ok more power to you, i wish i had your discipline.

let me say this though, ive watched about a trillion hours of abused/abducted/determined/strong/smart/sassy woman movies on lifetime tv and during the 11 years of long term r-ships my significant others have watched an impressive 0 games of madden out of 2500.

there was this 1 girl right when i got sober, who looked like kirsten dunst and totally athletic and tough, she liked to argue but it was cool since she was respectful at the same time. but she had 2 boys and the oldest 1 got caught raping a 4 year old girl, and molesting his 3 year old brother when he was 7 and the girl refused to acknowledge any future danger... i had a 3 year old daughter at the time and i had to end it.... she may have been different, last i heard from her was on her birthday when some dude she was dating beat the **** outta her and i moved her stuff into her brothers house... it was sad.

[Bearfanmike20]

i feel like a lot of us stay around for the kids... or in my case financial reasons, she has 3 kids, i have 2 and neither of us could live this comfortably without the double paychecks, the kids get used to their friends, home etc...

i have no intention of changing...

and treat a woman like what???? seriously ive put up with enough bull**** imo. women do whatever the **** they want, whenever they want. and they focus completely on themselves, their feelings and their happiness

it just seems pointless that 2 people would focus on 1 being happy. but if thats for you... ok more power to you, i wish i had your discipline.

let me say this though, ive watched about a trillion hours of abused/abducted/determined/strong/smart/sassy woman movies on lifetime tv and during the 11 years of long term r-ships my significant others have watched an impressive 0 games of madden out of 2500.

there was this 1 girl right when i got sober, who looked like kirsten dunst and totally athletic and tough, she liked to argue but it was cool since she was respectful at the same time. but she had 2 boys and the oldest 1 got caught raping a 4 year old girl, and molesting his 3 year old brother when he was 7 and the girl refused to acknowledge any future danger... i had a 3 year old daughter at the time and i had to end it.... she may have been different, last i heard from her was on her birthday when some dude she was dating beat the **** outta her and i moved her stuff into her brothers house... it was sad.
Wow... ok.. I've been through alot of sh1t but man... that sux.... :(

Sorry man.

I do know one thing... I DO NOT stay around for the kids. I stick around cause I really do love her.... So I guess I just ask for it...

But you have helped me.... ;)

[Zymotic]

I guess comfort is more important than happiness... Good luck with it all man, sounds like your life sucks. I would assume there will never come a time when moving you and your kids away from the crazy gal you got will be "easy" or "cheap". The prices of things continue to go up. So what is the plan ? You gonna wait like 10 to 12 years until your kids move out before you get away from her ?

[Bearfanmike20]

I guess comfort is more important than happiness... Good luck with it all man, sounds like your life sucks. I would assume there will never come a time when moving you and your kids away from the crazy gal you got will be "easy" or "cheap". The prices of things continue to go up. So what is the plan ? You gonna wait like 10 to 12 years until your kids move out before you get away from her ?
Ah... choices.... the choices we make that define us...

This is a very tough one. :(

[Zymotic]

Hey Bear you know people like that in RL ? The type that can't stand each other , but they stay together because they like have a new car every two or three years ? I guess... I get it when people stay together for the kids, but I don't get staying together for the stuff... And puhleeeze Menace before you start crying about how I'm picking on your sensitive a$$ just keep quiet. I'm not talking about ya, or to ya... Just curious about Bear's view.

I kind of get the feeling there is a selfishness in society, where people are more interested in what they can get out of a relationship then what they are willing to put into it , or sacrafice for it ... both for men and women on this too... its like chicks get used to being a way, but if they then have to stay home and deal with the kids they dont want to budget ... they think they can still do all the same stuff, so then they put it on their man to make more to make up for the lost second income ... I just have some friends that are like this ... borrowing money ... living beyond their means in many ways, because all of the sudden they got a few more mouths to feed but they never cut-back on their luxury items when that happened...

It's almost like people are not able to say no to their own wants, they do not deny themselves anything ... Or am I just seeing things incorrectly ? You got any friends like that Bear ? I'll give an example ... some friends and I decided to go on a little vacation to Catalina Island , its close, its cheap , its fun ... this one couple says " We cant afford it sorry". So I talk to one of the other friends going and say " You wanna kick in a couple hundred and we will cover their hotel ? " Sure sure .... so we tell them ... we go ... While we are there the "poor" couple is living it up like crazy, they are straight Trump'in ... renting boats, cars , throwing money around on the best stuff all around... (not picking up any bills for me or the other fool that paid the hotel)...Me and the friend were like wtf is this ? Did we get con'ed or what ? Or is this just another case of people being unable to go with the cheap dinner special instead of the lobster because they feel they deserve to eat lobster even though they cant afford their own hotel room ...

[Bearfanmike20]

Hey Bear you know people like that in RL ? The type that can't stand each other , but they stay together because they like have a new car every two or three years ? I guess... I get it when people stay together for the kids, but I don't get staying together for the stuff... And puhleeeze Menace before you start crying about how I'm picking on your sensitive a$$ just keep quiet. I'm not talking about ya, or to ya... Just curious about Bear's view.

I kind of get the feeling there is a selfishness in society, where people are more interested in what they can get out of a relationship then what they are willing to put into it , or sacrafice for it ... both for men and women on this too... its like chicks get used to being a way, but if they then have to stay home and deal with the kids they dont want to budget ... they think they can still do all the same stuff, so then they put it on their man to make more to make up for the lost second income ... I just have some friends that are like this ... borrowing money ... living beyond their means in many ways, because all of the sudden they got a few more mouths to feed but they never cut-back on their luxury items when that happened...

It's almost like people are not able to say no to their own wants, they do not deny themselves anything ... Or am I just seeing things incorrectly ? You got any friends like that Bear ? I'll give an example ... some friends and I decided to go on a little vacation to Catalina Island , its close, its cheap , its fun ... this one couple says " We cant afford it sorry". So I talk to one of the other friends going and say " You wanna kick in a couple hundred and we will cover their hotel ? " Sure sure .... so we tell them ... we go ... While we are there the "poor" couple is living it up like crazy, they are straight Trump'in ... renting boats, cars , throwing money around on the best stuff all around... (not picking up any bills for me or the other fool that paid the hotel)...Me and the friend were like wtf is this ? Did we get con'ed or what ? Or is this just another case of people being unable to go with the cheap dinner special instead of the lobster because they feel they deserve to eat lobster even though they cant afford their own hotel room ...
My wifes former best friend (thats a different story) was in a relationship with a dude just for his money... actually.. every guy shes ever been with it was for his money.. LOL

go figure...

It works the way in divorce too... My wife and I.. so far.. even with our problems have an agreement.. we split everything... it doesn't pay to screw the other person cause you end up supporting them later.

Just my .02.. dont know if thats what you were looking for....

[themenace47]

bearfanmike, going back to your original post it seems as if maybe you arent being treated right. a nice dude just should not put up with that stuff you mentioned.

girls got 1 thing right and they have been telling it to each other for years... if a guy lies to you, slaps you or cheats on you more than once its your own fault.

[Zymotic]

I guess what I was looking for is an answer to , have you ever seen personal examples of people putting themselves in sketchy situations because they are unable to stop themselves from buying/having things... I guess your wife's gf is a semi-example of that, although I think most women are with dudes for the money ... was the gf just with him for free dinners, or was she trying to get him to pick up her car note and stuff ? LOL !

[Bearfanmike20]

I guess what I was looking for is an answer to , have you ever seen personal examples of people putting themselves in sketchy situations because they are unable to stop themselves from buying/having things... I guess your wife's gf is a semi-example of that, although I think most women are with dudes for the money ... was the gf just with him for free dinners, or was she trying to get him to pick up her car note and stuff ? LOL !
Oh man.. she wanted him to give he a job... everything... LOL

pathetic.

[Zymotic]

A Job !!!??? Lol !!!

[themenace47]

i was talking to my son today on the phone and he said my ex wife was trying to have him plead guilty to a firearms charge for shooting a $20 walmart paint-ball gun at a trash can.

the problem started when some kid thats older than him took the gun and shot a truck so naturally i was asking him why are you pleading to that and she snatched the phone out of his hand and started screaming and cussing me out and telling me how he isnt gonna get away with **** like i did and bla bla bla.

then she told me they dropped the firearms and hes pleading to criminal mischief but still i was like take him to court, he said the other kid did it and she acknowledged the other kid confessed but my son shot a trash can in the city limits and needs to learn a lesson.....

i then informed her that im taking him to court myself when he gets down her in 2 weeks and we're gonna ask the judge if he can move since he's old enough to have a little say ... i said: "based on his good grades and your appearant inability to control his behavior outside of school looks like it'll be easy now, i hope you have the same attitude about support as you do about collecting it becuase your fat *** is gonna pay every penny of it"....

i said if you bring him to live here right now, then ill let you out of it completely.

so she said you think he wants to live with you?

and i said "even though he already tells you that every day and begs you to let him, you're still selfish enough to think he doesnt???" even if i was the meanest sob (and believe me im not that leniant) he wants out that miserable little town so bad, nobody wanted to go in the first place, nobody except you and your new husband, and where does he live now???

then i brought up my daughter who i talk to for hours every few days and she absolutely cant stand it at her moms, she gets so excited about coming here and when its time to go back.... this is the most heart wrenching thing you'll ever see. last summer she had herself, my son , me and like 4 of the airport workers crying like babies as she was like I DONT WANNA GO, PLEASE JUST SAY WE MISSED THE PLANE!

she just leaves her house and stays with the new husbands sister and they started letting her stay overnight and take her everywhere and call me unlimited and let me call at all hours and what not, so at least she has somebody. they love her because she helps out with their really young kids and my daughter is almost 11.

she saved every piece of paper she worked on in school and is bringing me the entire box again lol (1/2 year since the last pile) takes us like an hour just to look at em all.

i told my ex... with her attitude and her grades her words are gonna carry weight too, at a much younger age than some kids, you got about 2 more years of this bull**** and then you're gonna see what its like.

she started in with how she shoulda this and she shoulda that...

but i said keep flappin your gums, i hope you do this in court in 3 weeks, make it nice and easy for me. dont worry though im gonna afford you every luxury you gave me after you do it.

her- what ****in luxuries

me - exactly, get ready to see yourself from the other side, and get out your checkbook because with your ****ty job this is gonna get expensive.


and for the first time in 10 years, she now wants to be civil lol.

in all honesty i probably have 1 more year before my son will get a choice, but it was still worth it just to hear her shut the **** up with all that nonsense for 3 minutes of a phone call.


being without my children has defenitely warped my outlook on life in general and i started thinking about all the stupid **** im always saying and how my attitude towards my girlfriend in some ways stems from my ex wife and im thinking that maybe i have been too quick to have a blame-o-rama on my girlfriend now

i think i should give her the benefit of a clean slate so to speak and force myself to be a caring man instead of a selfish one. so dinner is ready and on the table... its pizza:o , but its her favorite, and im gonna get all the bs done so she can kick it all weekend and if you guys get the luxury of not reading any longass posts of mine its cuz she's playing ea pogo games on the pc

maybe i can play madden on the small tv without her noticing :D

somehow this thread is helping me get over it all... therapy for ballers lol

[Zymotic]

Admit it , it was the "koo koo" comment that got you taking a deeper look right ? :p

I think it's awesome man ... sounds like you got a good plan going. I hope it all works out. Keep me posted !

[Bearfanmike20]

i think i should give her the benefit of a clean slate so to speak and force myself to be a caring man instead of a selfish one. so dinner is ready and on the table... its pizza , but its her favorite, and im gonna get all the bs done so she can kick it all weekend and if you guys get the luxury of not reading any longass posts of mine its cuz she's playing ea pogo games on the pc

maybe i can play madden on the small tv without her noticing


Great.... keep talking it out... I think its really been therapy for me as well.. great place to vent and no reason to worry... nobody from the vg gonna rat you out. ;)


My wife and I are doing.... ok... Just alot of stuff and I have to be patient...

is having sex 3 times in a year... bad... :(

Thats a huge problem.. and yet.. I dont want to be a dick about it... so I dont say much... I just sit there and FUME every night when I go to bed.... When I try to bring it up I get the usual... I'm just too tired... Not interested.. too depressed.. I'm too fat (total bs ya shes not a size 0 anymore, but size 11 juniors isn't exactly porking it)... Just very frustrating.. and I cant sleep anymore even... its driving me literally insaine.... Oh well..

thanks for the vent guys.

Mike

[themenace47]

its amazing how much the sex issue where 1 person doesnt want to do it anymore comes up these days. male and female... on this site you normally hear about wives that are turned off :confused: but...

the one thing i am sure about is this... once women find out their man doesnt need sex from them, they become a lot more intersted in doing it regularly. basically its like everything else, as soon as she finds out you dont want to do it... it becomes important to her that you do it all the time.

in our case, the problem is that my gf's basically non sexual all the time but then she gets irritated because her needs arent being met as soon as she's in the mood.

for example, sunday we took the whole family to the rec center and she jogged like 10 laps around the "lazy river" pool with the kids, sat in a chair for an hour and a half, then scarfed down a chocolate ice cream bar and i went and worked out and suffered through some cardio while staring at hot spandex butt jiggling all over the treadmills.

im trying to be nice in other ways, and i am probably unjustly holding her accountable for some of the crap from my ex... but now i just really want to be single again. because honestly i could care less if i ever have sex again as long as its not gonna be with a woman who's really sexy in one way or another. basically tom-boys, tatooed, beer guzzling G.I. type girls and selfish loudmouth *****es who like to argue about everything all the damn time are just not doing it for me anymore.

they all want a "real man", but im gonna need a "good woman" before i assume that role ever again.

until then im clean, sober, celibate and i just made it through my first headache free day with no caffeine... im just hoping and praying that eventually i become a little more "normal" as the effects of all my bad life choices fade away.

i do feel like the cold hard truth is that the relationship was all but over before i lost interest. if there was no children and we didnt need every penny of both checks to maintain the household we'd be through for sure.

in your case you guys are married so most likely you made vows to GOD and those need to be honored, if there has been marital infidelity on the part of your spouse it doesnt seem like shes fully invested in repairing the marriage at this point. in which case you might benefit from moving on. i'm not saying that you shouldnt forgive, but someone has to accept your forgiveness in that situation.

i know this kind of talk is scary and may not even pertain to you and breaking up usually works out better for the ex- wife in america but if she pushes you into it then dont allow yourself to be unhappy forever when you're justified in finding someone who isnt like that.

people do change, but not usually until there is sufficient reason, and sexist or not... i have yet to see a woman over the age of 18 adopt a morally upstanding lifestyle until she loses something important that spurs the changes.

at any rate it sounds like you need to at least prepare for the possibiltiy that it might not be an option of yours much longer anyway. a divorce lawyer once told me "you got your head in the sand and your *** in the air just asking to be reamed"

the funny part is that he had that simon cowell accent and i was all pissed and speeding like 40 over in my 73 nova when i was going home and got pulled over so the cop asked wtf i was going so fast and i told him i just left the divorce lawyer..

he handed my license back and said have a nice day...and went straight back to his spot.

i hope it doesnt come to that for you bro

[Zymotic]

You are sucking me into your soap opera life , and ... I can't say I hate it.