Madden0logy...Whats really up?

[Str8 To theGrav]

Okay folks check this out...Madden0logy, Hes on madden ranked about the 1000 range. I read some post in the Cheaters section about him from some of you, that he stalls abd cheezes the whole game. Now, Id beg to differ. I have played him and hes very respectible. He does use the Vikings, most do so thats really not cheeze.
Kicking off he kicks to the middle so the fast returners dont get it and take it the distance. Not cheeze, more smart then anything.

He never audibles on when you're the person kicking off...that made me laugh to see that from 808 Packers.LOL

He does put moss in the 3rd WR slot. Cheeze or not? well thats you to decide. It means when he runs 2 WR sets theres no moss, easier to defend. But when you run 2 WR sets there is an option to pick 3WR's. Some people are to ignorant to understand this and accuse innocent people of cheating when really its not. So in many sets Moss can be placed at TE or FB or virtually anywhere.
So its really not cheating.

As far as Bennett blowing up people and not going down on the first hit....Lets see, maybe you had people at DL that didnt belong there and he exploited that OR you picked a pass stopping D to stop his Run...Bennett, for those who dont know, has a speed of 98, any RB in this years version of the game with a speed of 90+ will break a lot fo tackles. Bennett will, Trung Candidate will,Faulk,Dunn and even Mike Vick does, so no GS there, just a fast player doing what they do.

Moss on D...If you had players out of order, he must have done it too be even with you? If he has O players on D then they will just get tired, so thats an advantage for you.

All in all, He doesnt cheat any more then any of you. Hes pretty Srt8 aside from stalling. He will stall you if you cheat, like u deserved to be.

and if you dont think he is good, play him unranked and see how it goes....LOL have fun later!

[Amadog]

so basically what you're saying is that YOU are MaddenOlogy?

also, offensive players on defense is cheese no matter how you slice it. you're trying to justify it by saying other people do it or some other form of cheese. if I go out and kill a murderer I'm still going to jail.

[Str8 To theGrav]

No if i was he, then my id would be maddenology. But O players on D is cheesy 100%....but everything else I said, isnt really cheating, considering the fact every single person online does it....
Hey if your playing someone who is cheating, are u going to take it or do it back?

[Amadog]

it depends. on my amadog profile I play str8 up. on my other profile if the other guy does something I don't agree with I won't hesitate to retaliate. 2 wrongs don't make a right though and that's what I think you're getting confused with. it takes alot for me to retaliate and the only thing I will do is onside kick everytime. I still won't put an offensive player on defense or put guys out of position. that's for those whose skills are too weak to play the game.

[Cant Stop RW]

But isnt onside kicks everytime, for those are to weak to play the game right too? If someone glitches me, ill glitch them back. But i play straight up otherwise. :D

[Amadog]

nah, it's to piss them off. it's mostly for the clockkillers who run down the clock from the very beginning of the game. I'm going to score and then do my best to not let them touch the ball. running down the clock is the worst offense, for me at least.

[Str8 To theGrav]

Personally, I wont cheat unless im getting cheated. If they kick onsides, I will, if the block fg's, I will. Im not a fan of cheating but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. But if someone runs down the clock, that really isnt cheating....but then again it would be, for you, considered "cheese" but cheese is something you dont like because you cant stop.

If hes gunna run down the clock, get a stop. Then you dont have to worry about it.

[hobbs2324]

Str8 To theGrav, I'm on Xbox so I can't do online, but from your initial post you sound like a guy who made up a new profile to defend your online personality or just a really good friend
My opinion and no reason to burn, if you were not him, there would be minimal reasons to start a thread and then defend him on numerous responses
Just an outsider looking in
Peace

[Str8 To theGrav]

No, i couldnt post in the cheaters forum because VG locked it so i thought id bring it here. But i think i made a point with my original post.

[TNT713]

Why is putting your best 11 players on the field a bad thing?

It just happend that Randy moss is the 3rd best CB on the Vikings team (or at least he was last time I looked). Meaning that if he chooses to use his best WR at CB, SS, FS, etc... He is putting that player in a position to get hurt. Fatigued players get hurt more often than fresh players.

Besides, does no one remember when Deion Sanders, Champ Bailey, and even... get this... RANDY MOSS played on the opposite side of the ball in the NFL.

Fact is... If i was coaching the Vikes, I'd use Moss as a CB on the tallest offensive WR, and he would not play offense at all. My offense based on alot of short passes and Moss simply wouldn't fit my system...

What ever happened to coaching your team, putting your best players in position to make plays, and living with the consequences of those coaching decisions?

That's what the pros do? Why can't we?

Just a question... By the way, i've never used the Vikings, but if I did Moss would play defense.

Later

[Amadog]

Originally posted by TNT713
Fact is... If i was coaching the Vikes, I'd use Moss as a CB on the tallest offensive WR, and he would not play offense at all. My offense based on alot of short passes and Moss simply wouldn't fit my system...

Just a question... By the way, i've never used the Vikings, but if I did Moss would play defense. [/B]

2 excellent strategies. no wonder you're so awesome at madden.

please explain to me how your short pass offensive system would be hurt by having moss in? because his 99 spd and acceleration would somehow make him beat his man? because his high awr and catch ratings would make him catch almost every single pass? because his high stamina and injury ratings would mean he would outlast every other db in the game? and then you say you have never even used the vikings in another post. if you have never even used them then how would you know he wouldn't fit into your system that's apparently so great that the best wr in the game wouldn't even play in it?

[QDog]

Originally posted by TNT713
Why is putting your best 11 players on the field a bad thing?

It just happend that Randy moss is the 3rd best CB on the Vikings team (or at least he was last time I looked). Meaning that if he chooses to use his best WR at CB, SS, FS, etc... He is putting that player in a position to get hurt. Fatigued players get hurt more often than fresh players.

Besides, does no one remember when Deion Sanders, Champ Bailey, and even... get this... RANDY MOSS played on the opposite side of the ball in the NFL.

Fact is... If i was coaching the Vikes, I'd use Moss as a CB on the tallest offensive WR, and he would not play offense at all. My offense based on alot of short passes and Moss simply wouldn't fit my system...

What ever happened to coaching your team, putting your best players in position to make plays, and living with the consequences of those coaching decisions?

That's what the pros do? Why can't we?

Just a question... By the way, i've never used the Vikings, but if I did Moss would play defense.

Later

Basically because, most people want to play realistically. The Vikes dont have Randy playing Defense. Dont confuse madden rankings with REAL NFL rankings and depth charts. They don't risk him being injured or fatigue, regardless of how garbage the real DBs are. It's the same thinking that keeps him from returning kicks and punts. There is too much money involved and to much to risk. The problem sometimes is that someone sees something once in a blue moon in the NFL and plays madden like that for the whole game. Example, Moss playing DB on a play where the offense is throwing a hail mary to end a half, doesn't justify you to play him at DB for the whole game. If you do stuff like that in madden, then let your opponent know before you challenge or accept a challenge.

Deion is my favorite player of all time, but at least I know he was basically a decoy most times when he played on offense. He just ran deep routes. A DB playing WR is a lot easier than a WR playing DB

[808 Packers]

Originally posted by Str8 To theGrav
Okay folks check this out...Madden0logy, Hes on madden ranked about the 1000 range. I read some post in the Cheaters section about him from some of you, that he stalls abd cheezes the whole game. Now, Id beg to differ. I have played him and hes very respectible. He does use the Vikings, most do so thats really not cheeze.
Kicking off he kicks to the middle so the fast returners dont get it and take it the distance. Not cheeze, more smart then anything.

He never audibles on when you're the person kicking off...that made me laugh to see that from 808 Packers.LOL

He does put moss in the 3rd WR slot. Cheeze or not? well thats you to decide. It means when he runs 2 WR sets theres no moss, easier to defend. But when you run 2 WR sets there is an option to pick 3WR's. Some people are to ignorant to understand this and accuse innocent people of cheating when really its not. So in many sets Moss can be placed at TE or FB or virtually anywhere.
So its really not cheating.

As far as Bennett blowing up people and not going down on the first hit....Lets see, maybe you had people at DL that didnt belong there and he exploited that OR you picked a pass stopping D to stop his Run...Bennett, for those who dont know, has a speed of 98, any RB in this years version of the game with a speed of 90+ will break a lot fo tackles. Bennett will, Trung Candidate will,Faulk,Dunn and even Mike Vick does, so no GS there, just a fast player doing what they do.

Moss on D...If you had players out of order, he must have done it too be even with you? If he has O players on D then they will just get tired, so thats an advantage for you.

All in all, He doesnt cheat any more then any of you. Hes pretty Srt8 aside from stalling. He will stall you if you cheat, like u deserved to be.

and if you dont think he is good, play him unranked and see how it goes....LOL have fun later!

Give me a break! I have tried to play this dude many times, and he declines like a scared little girl. If you are not him, great. If you are him, get a pair and lets play again.

On thing is for sure, since I posted that I have played many players that do not cheese. If he plays an honest game with YOU, I am happy for you. My point was that he was scared to play an honest game. Moss at CB, that would be a gift for a nice run blocker to lay the smackdown on him.

Right now I could care less who anyone puts anywhere on the field. If Moss is in the backfield GOOD! If there is an RB on the line GOOD, I am not afraid of these cheap tactics.

Madden0logy's record (http://www.easportsnation.com/games/madden2004/playerstats/home.jsp?playername=madden0logy)

Where is your game?

[808 Packers]

One more thing, look at Madden0logy's record, every single game is a disconnect. He must have a friend that keeps feeding him wins.

Im over it...

[dirtfield]

yea madenology is a cheater,gamesharker and porobably a few other things..he seems to have some kind of pyramid going with other players giving free wins maybe 2 or 3 guys using gameshark and then using that profile after its ranked to give their main profiles a win against a ranked profile, there is a patern if you look at the guys he plays and the guys they play!! lots of 0-2 loss's at least 6 to10 with same profiles!! other words their records are being stacked with ghost profiles, trying to make themselfs look good with a high aor but actualy there handed the wins...YEA THEIR GOOD LOL!!!

[alski is grim]

look the way to stop all the cheesy motion crap is start off in man then audible to a zone its simple i played yhis guy ranked 568 iwas about 8000 he kept doing the motion until he started throwing pick to my guys sitting ine their zone i then moved to 5000 and got knocked offline 4 times in a row by some cheeseball sonow im not rated