View Full Version : Welcome to Offensive Strategies.
mad_bomber
06-24-2004, 02:48 PM
Post your offensive strategy related messages here.
Farmer
06-24-2004, 02:52 PM
Has anyone seen or heard of the offensive plays?? Will they be the same as 04, or will they be different?
kbell97
06-24-2004, 03:05 PM
On the videos that I downloaded thanks to Mad Bomber I saw a lot of the same plays except I think their was a new formaion Ace Big Twins. In an earlier post Mad Bomber noted the wr under out of shotgun is replaced by the split end running a slant and not going under the slot receiver. He also noted some weakside runs out of the shotgun formation.
mad_bomber
06-24-2004, 03:28 PM
They've added some better passing plays from the Shotgun 2B Slot formation. Mostly what I've seen is they've made slight adjustments to the exising pass plays by changing up some receiver routes.
CrazyOldGuy
06-25-2004, 01:06 AM
WOW this website just keeps getting better...
Now I don't have to feel guilty for posting my x and o geek thoughts!:o
I think you probably mentioned it somewhere Bomber but any chance we have a play editor?
"Improved" from EA means they've made the routes more conducive to being covered by the Defense...hence we always get the DEEP POST ROUTE OUTSIDE THE STREAK ROUTE (making it much easier for the cpu to cover BOTH routes).. I've seen inside recievers run a deep post while an outside receiver runs a streak (basic football 101 its designed to split a 2 deep Safety defense) I've rarely seen the later infact I can't locate it diagramed anywhere in my football library.
I'm going to miss the Under if they've changed it...in a strange sort of way I was kind of using it as a WR quick screen, I'd motion over the right slot back and "hot" him to a streak, the effect was he could run off the safety and inside backer... of course the guy running the "under" always ran it too far up field to be a true quick screen... but it worked for me.....
I'm glad though we finally have QB choice running play for Shotgun 4 Wides!!! and I'm drooling over the addition of more D1AA teams.... did they finally get rid of those silly mascot teams?
mad_bomber
06-25-2004, 02:47 PM
COG,
It's nice to get your thoughts along with others on different aspects of the gameplay. That's what I had in mind when I came up with the idea of have separate forums for offensive and defensive strategies. I wanted to have strategy talke separate from general discussions. It makes it much easier for visitors to find topics of interest to them. Later on as traffic increases I'll look to getting a wishlist and dynasty forum going. I kind of want something for everyone in the NCAA community.
From what I've heard the mascot games are still there. But they have added the Southland and Ohio Valley conferences to the 1AA lineup. So basically we now have 78 1AA teams.
Bronco
07-01-2004, 07:13 PM
COG! How the heck have you been? I'd also like to say I'm totally psyched that Bomber set this up...this is going to be nothing but good times.
kbell97
07-01-2004, 07:22 PM
Ya baby!!!! Bronco is in this forum, now all we need is Da Birk, Bronco you hear from Da Birk anymore.
mad_bomber
07-02-2004, 12:43 AM
Welcome aboard Bronco! I'm looking forward to you sharing your strategical expertise with us.
CrazyOldGuy
07-02-2004, 02:32 AM
O-M-G BRONCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OO!!!!!!!
Its like old home week for us Strategies refugee's, first Razorbacker and now Bronco THIS IS TOO MUCH!!!
Bronc, GREAT TO SEE YOU TOO...
I'll tell you Bomber and the rest of the gang here have really welcomed us with opened arms. This site has been fantastic and getting all of us back together is going to rock...
As I told backer if you see anybody else out there wandering tell them to come on in!!!:D
Bronco
07-02-2004, 07:02 AM
KBell, Razorbacker, COG...now we just need to get Rev, Hazbin, Sundevil, and BTG. Really good to see all you guys once again. And we have the perfect guy running the forum - Mad Bomber will ensure this clearly will be THE place on the web for football gaming X's and O's.
Very much looking forward to some serious chalk talk...
P.S. - for anyone who asked, as for DaBirk, unfortunately I have no idea where he is, what he's doing. If I ever hear from him, I'll definitely pass everyone's regards...
mad_bomber
07-02-2004, 09:56 PM
I'm hoping that we can get that same type of camaraderie we had going at NCAA Strategies. You can believe that we will be your one stop source for the X's and O's discussions.
FT.BENNINGVOL
01-03-2005, 01:23 PM
what ever happened to high IQ???? DABIRK??
tsamuska18
12-09-2005, 03:56 AM
Is it possible to run on the nickel defense with both linebackers blitzing up the middle? hit me back
whiteboy2069
09-15-2006, 11:37 AM
What routes can i run that the bump and run won't work when i play online my opponent always uses that and third down and i can't figure out how to beat it. Please help?
djwill13
09-15-2006, 11:55 AM
What routes can i run that the bump and run won't work when i play online my opponent always uses that and third down and i can't figure out how to beat it. Please help?
I've yet to find any, but I haven't spent any extensive time in the lab with it yet. Best advice I can give you at the moment would be to use sets that have multiple tight ends like ace big. Reason being, the TE's will never get bumped, neither will the running back. If need be, hot route the back to block, so that you'll still have 6 blockers should the defense blitz.
I know it's not entirely helpful, but at least it's something.
TxCincy
08-03-2009, 10:06 PM
I've been locked in to Balanced offense way too long and need start mixing up my playcalling.
I'm a huge fan of the I, I Twins, Strong I, Ace, Ace Twin TE, Pro, and all the spreads in this playbook. I don't use the Flex at all and I just ignore the rest.
With the linked plays, I think I'm going to have better luck in a different playbook if I can find something with these sets.
Any thoughts?
EDIT: By Pro I meant the Split Backs 3WR.
I found the search tool and ran that. South Carolina came up as a good match, being the only other playbook with the Split Back 3WR, but its an insane playbook with absurd plays and strange sets. I'm going to keep looking or just get used to the SC strategy. Not many linked plays here either.
redtusk
08-05-2009, 09:13 AM
I employ a run-based offense because that is the most direct way to attack a defense. A play's success will rely on many factors, including alignment and angles of routes in conjunction with each other. In this respect I guess that offensive strategy is a bit like like math. Another thing that affects a play's success is timing, and this is why a successful runnning game is dangerous. Not only is it a direct, powerful attack (unless with sweeps, counter traps, etc, but there is still power involved with any run play), but the defense has less time to react because the ballcarrier is closer to the ball and will recieve it sooner. You can usually find one aspect of an opponent's game that is weak with just a little probing. I'd try being simple first with your playsets and use different formations (I sometimes like to run several times in a row, never using the same formation). There have been several instances in which I've faced opponents with good base defenses 3-4, 4-3, etc designed to stop conventional base offensive sets with 2 WR, but severely lacking and exposed when faced with continuity offenses from 3 and 4 WR sets because their Nickel and Dime packages have never been challenged by a balanced, complete attack from these sets. You may also find the opposite to be true, as some struggle vs base and option sets but good playcalling and execution are key. Many opponents will become frustrated after a few successful runs, and then the sky's the limit. Once you see a pattern in how your opponent reacts to what you're doing, which may vary depending on the formation you're using, then you can exploit it. I know a lot of people like to blitz heavy against people who run a lot, especially if they are successful, and a max pro play-action pass out of a couple of your favorite running formations will go a long way. Never underestimate the importance of a good screen every so often, either, as it could yield good things and will help keep your adversary guessing all day, as well as help negate the pass rush. Practice the fundamental plays until you can do them in your sleep. And finally, I LOVE the option. Mix an option attack with a conventional offense if you have a fast QB. It is especially effective around the goal line. And as far as bump and run coverage goes they can only bump you if they're playing man to man defense. If they show press and are actually playing zone you'll see HUGE opportunities; all you gotta do is pay attention. If bump coverage is your opponent's sole strategy for stopping you on 3rd down then throw a few bunch formations at him and choose plays with routes that intersect, and that will help you screen off defenders. or a counter or toss the other way, as most of the defenders are on the bunched side and you should only have your man to beat. If he blitzes a lot then there will be holes left where they came from. Exploit this, because once you have someone second-guessing their blitz schemes then you've got em by the....well, you know. Find out the little things like what are his/her favorite plays when they think you're running, on 3rd and long, etc. Fades and quickslants with backs running flats also destroy bump coverage, as does hitting a slot reciever in the seam with outside flankers running deep to preoccupy the safeties. I sure hope all this helps, otherwise I'm littering right now lol
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