true true.. I was just pointing out one way to possibly attack it so that I could understand it better.Originally Posted by GAV
true true.. I was just pointing out one way to possibly attack it so that I could understand it better.
great thread GAV. people dont understand how much easier it is to get heat and stop runs when you know how to use control the gaps.
this really is a great thread, I'm more interested in it now than ever cause I'm gonna try to pick up the 34 and use it with the Steelers after running the 46 with the Eagles for so long.
Considering these concepts, what's a good way to stop the zone blocking plays out of the singleback 3wr sets? I think these are tough to stop especially if they motion the far right WR over to help block the LOLB or SS. I would think overload blitzes wouldn't get through and would leave cutback lanes open, right?
Don't attack it with blitzing until you get a look at the runs and the run lanes that the motions cause. Instead, establish gap control - and impose your will on the runner using your user defender.
3 WR is easier than 4 WR because you have to worry less about the quick seam throw. With 4 WR, you have to match it with more pass oriented sets - that has a nickel back - and maybe even a dime back too. Run-to-pass schemes are generally easier to deal with in 09 than pass-to-run ones.
great stuff Gav,u are a great defensive mind bro.....now where's mello at??
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Mello said he was going to do a defensive writeup soon.
He gave us a glimpse of it in this thread.
This scheme is predicated on stopping the FB dive but I'm not going dedicate my D into stopping one thing on the field. Doing this in the cover 3 works well in case people audible out. The thing is that not only does this play destroy the FB dive. I creates a nano during passing plays. I manual the yellow zone saftey and cover the TE and open flats area.
So if they are going to throw with 1 or nobody back to block they are going to get screwed because It will be a nano.
But much like what Gav said it's not the total D by any means. It's just 1 scheme of MANY, but this particular one, it's focus is to stop the FB dive.
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I'm working on it. It's almost done. I should just start coming online and 'appearing offline' because the second I get one everyone tries to holla. It's all good though. I'll be up. The more time I put into this the better it will be. Be patient fellaz, that fiyah is comin'.
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I like this thread and I was just looking for something like it however I have a question(s).
As far a your gap controll theory who is the user player that is suppose to be making these tackles. From what I could understand you are controlling to OL with DL and LB's leaving a saftey free to clean up. However is not not what the offense wants? A hat on a hat. If they have an OLineman on all your Front 7 then its 1 on 1 rb vs. saftey a mismatch for the defense.
And if you use a linebacker to make the play how would you set this up.
Also what with pulling line man and Full backs how do you controll their gaps?
Also how do match up alignments vs. offensive formation to achieve gap controll?
Last what role does tendencies play and how do you take advantage of those.
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good stuff Gav way to look out!
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Shifting the DL left or right - and looping them - while blitzing a linebacker at the B gap opposite the shift is another good way to create gap integrity.
You can also shift the DL left or right - crash them back the other way - and blitz both the B gap opposite - and outside the B gap towards - for penetration instead.
Mixing these two setups give the same look, but the dynamics are different.
This is an example of disguising fronts.
What exactly do you mean by looping? Also you talked about coners being yellow or purple, is this the color on the play diagram? I have had great success using the mix up of changing DT/DE/LB blitzing like you said. Overall great post
Looping means make the DL take an outside rush. Hit the L -button and up on the R-stick on 360 to make them do this.
Try calling the delayed BnR. If the cornerback was in a purple, he will behave much differently after the reciever breaks loose from his press then he would have if he were in a yellow, but they look identical before the release. You can use this to change the dynamics on what routes get open - and when.
This is an example of disguising coverage.
Coming from personal experience the it is much easier to go from the 3-4 to the 4-3 then the other way around because the 4-3 is much better at stopping the run at 1st, the 3-4 is a much better book i think after the help u gave me tonight.
The 3-4 is really flexible, but you have to change the front dynamics so that your opponent doesn't get into a running rhythm - just like you try to throw off his passing rhythm with the 4-3. Good cutback runners can be hard to deal with unless you get good at being disciplined while still reacting quickly in the run game with your user defender.
Did you figure out how to show the same look and bring pressure? Reblitzing the DL with inside blitzing works, but don't ignore the stunts the D-linemen are in. Some of them can help make for some really dynamic pressure - especially if you flip the play. Off the edge, decide whether you want to be slick - or just bring more defenders than he can deal with - and go with it. Reblitzing a DE works with slotted DB blitzes, but not quite as well with OLB blitzes without manual movement.
3-4 offers alot of firepower, but you have to keep things fresh to keep your opponent from a comfort zone.
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