Obama unable to make decision?

[bk1998]

Time is of the essence. Make a decision on the McChrystal report.

You've only been sitting on it for months now.

[resnor]

Completely agree.

[bk1998]

Nothing frustrates me more than senior leaders who refuse to make decisions without every single piece of information available.

Anyone can make decisions when they've got 100% information.

You're getting the big bucks to make tough decisions. Get on with it.

[sideoutshu]

Nothing frustrates me more than senior leaders who refuse to make decisions without every single piece of information available.

Anyone can make decisions when they've got 100% information.

You're getting the big bucks to make tough decisions. Get on with it.

He knows what the right decision is. He also knows that if he does the right thing, he is going to spend the next 3 years defending himself to the radicals that elected him.

Politics trumps national security for democrats.

One thing I loved about McCain is that he was the opposite. He backed the surge when it was political suicide to do so, cause he knew it was the right thing.

[MonoxideChild]

Here's the problem. The general is just that, a general. He's been in the military from the womb. The problem is that you cant take just his opinion into consideration. Whenever any commanders are asked what to do in any war, they always say they need more troops. However, McChrystal also said that the objective in Afghanistan could be considered completed. Theres more to it than just saying we need to send in more or leave. There is no endgame. Our motives have been lost and our focus has been shifted. And do you really think we'll have made a decision before we, I mean, the Afghanis elect a new leader?

[bk1998]

Here's the problem. The general is just that, a general. He's been in the military from the womb. The problem is that you cant take just his opinion into consideration. Whenever any commanders are asked what to do in any war, they always say they need more troops. However, McChrystal also said that the objective in Afghanistan could be considered completed. Theres more to it than just saying we need to send in more or leave. There is no endgame. Our motives have been lost and our focus has been shifted. And do you really think we'll have made a decision before we, I mean, the Afghanis elect a new leader?

Have you read the McChrystal report?

I have.

He doesn't say that the objective in Afghanistan could be considered completed.

[YoungVito]

I'm going to say the SAME THING I said when Bush was in office....unless you're SITTING behind that desk, you have no idea what it all entails.

How can you accurately assess something fom the outside looking in?

The majority of the time you'll be wrong.

[MonoxideChild]

Have you read the McChrystal report?

I have.

He doesn't say that the objective in Afghanistan could be considered completed.

He does say it. A few times actually. He says that our original objectives in Afghanistan have been met. He then goes on to say that we have CHANGED our objectives and for our new visions to be achieved as well, he wants more troops. Basically what he's saying is that we're not over there for the same thing anymore, but since we never left when we should have, we need to maintain a large military presence. McChrystal believes the Taliban is not an immediate threat and that Al-Qaeda is ineffective. His "new" concern and view of our mission is concerning more of the India-Pakistan issues.

[Gtrght77]

I am glad he is taking his time, I don't see the need to rush we have already been there how many years now?

The War on Terror is a joke, it's time to bring them all home.

[Gtrght77]

He knows what the right decision is. He also knows that if he does the right thing, he is going to spend the next 3 years defending himself to the radicals that elected him.

Politics trumps national security for democrats.

One thing I loved about McCain is that he was the opposite. He backed the surge when it was political suicide to do so, cause he knew it was the right thing.

The only "Surge" was the surge of money we sent over there to pay off those we were fighting against.

[bk1998]

He does say it. A few times actually. He says that our original objectives in Afghanistan have been met. He then goes on to say that we have CHANGED our objectives and for our new visions to be achieved as well, he wants more troops. Basically what he's saying is that we're not over there for the same thing anymore, but since we never left when we should have, we need to maintain a large military presence. McChrystal believes the Taliban is not an immediate threat and that Al-Qaeda is ineffective. His "new" concern and view of our mission is concerning more of the India-Pakistan issues.

http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-s...T2009092003140

I disagree with your synopsis, wholeheartedly.

And for those who think that sitting for months on a time-sensitive document is a good idea for senior leaders... do me a favor. Don't bother replying.

[bk1998]

I'm going to say the SAME THING I said when Bush was in office....unless you're SITTING behind that desk, you have no idea what it all entails.

How can you accurately assess something fom the outside looking in?

The majority of the time you'll be wrong.

Senior leaders are paid to make decisions. Anyone can sit around and not make decisions. Hell, I'd make a fine POTUS if not making decisions was the norm.

[resnor]

If anyone thinks that not making a decision here ISN'T political, then they need their head examined. Obama said that Afghanistan was THE WAR we should have been involved in. Now he won't make a decision. You may not have agreed with Bush, but at least he had the balls to do what he believed was right.

[Gtrght77]

If he sends more troops in he will lose my vote.

[YoungVito]

So what...we go in head-first without all of the facts, just so that we can "look" like the superpower we are? I think not.

Get your facts straight...then move.

Advance, when your opponent thinks you will pull back. And pull back when your opponent thinks you will advance. -Sun Tzu-