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  1. #16
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    Oh, and unless anyone on this thread works in the White House, we don't really know what is REALLY going on.

    Lets wait and see what he does, see the effects...then pick it apart and criticize. I'm in the military, and not for nothing, but I'd like for us to know EVERYTHING before any more of us go out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gtrght77 View Post
    If he sends more troops in he will lose my vote.
    I hope he sends more troops then.

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    Kip you have mine and Warren's votes. Plus I can convince mofo and Gibbs, and give me a few days to soften JJ. I will probably be in the league if you are in. Don't underestimate my clout around here. Just keep posting your reasons as to why you should be allowed... And PM them to the user SUPDOG. He carries a lot of weight around here, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungVito View Post
    Oh, and unless anyone on this thread works in the White House, we don't really know what is REALLY going on.

    Lets wait and see what he does, see the effects...then pick it apart and criticize. I'm in the military, and not for nothing, but I'd like for us to know EVERYTHING before any more of us go out there.
    Afghanistan is a much different ball game than Iraq because of the terrain, however, IMO, waiting (and playing politics) means more troop deaths. Putting more troops in SAVES LIVES!
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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungVito View Post
    I'm in the military, and not for nothing, but I'd like for us to know EVERYTHING before any more of us go out there.
    Which service?

    I deal with OSD, and Congress on a frequent basis.


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    [QUOTE=SUPDOG;1284977]Afghanistan is a much different ball game than Iraq because of the terrain, however, IMO, waiting (and playing politics) means more troop deaths. Putting more troops in SAVES LIVES![/QUOTE]

    How do you figure Supdog? If you're sending more troops into a battle, there will inevitabl ybe more casualties. Are they gonna say, "Wow, thats a lot of Marines, we should stop fighting them." ? Not in Afghanistan. That area is notoriously rough on invading countries. Their culture is completely different than anything we've encountered recently. If we're supposedly there to rebuild, lets define wtf that means and do it. If we're there to secure the area, we need to do that. The problem is we're trying too many things at once and have no real clear concise means for measuring success.

    Oh, and the CIA should probably weigh whether they want troop safety or a good opium connect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by resnor View Post
    decision. You may not have agreed with Bush, but at least he had the balls to do what he believed was right.
    my neighbor believes its his right to slap his wife around all night when he has had a bad day.

    another man down the street believes its right to sell crack to local people, despite the fact they will compromise the safety and health of their children to continue using the drug.


    every situation will have positive AND negative effects. with that said, i dont find what bush did as very respectable. lets put aside for a second the some what common assumptions that in this case bush was either an a.) puppet or b.) a dimwit or c.) a dimwitted puppet who had no business as a shoe store manager much less governor even much less president of the U.S. who sat on documents indicating a major attack was in the works on U.S. soil and afterward began an illegal war based on lies or faulty information depending on who you ask that costs 1000 of lives, oh wait...
    my bad. what i meant to say is that taking time to gather all the facts and then taking time to make a good decision is much more preferable, to me at least, than rushing into something and/or sticking with something just because it has become the norm to do.

    with that said, i agree that obama taking a long time to decide is political. i would say its more political in the sense of making the right decision in light of how it effects our standing in the world than it is political in the sense of him wanting the re-election vote in a few years. but thats just how he strikes me and i could very well be wrong.

    since we are all desktop generals here perhaps you fellas would like to tell me what YOU would do as president in regards to this war. why would you do it. what would it resolve. im curious to know.

    it seems to me that the taliban and the rest get a decent size portion of their funds from the opium trade. seeing as how this is common in other areas of life, does it not seem prudent and rational to legalize these drugs and others? so as to drop the prices of them if nothing else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungVito View Post
    I'm going to say the SAME THING I said when Bush was in office....unless you're SITTING behind that desk, you have no idea what it all entails.

    How can you accurately assess something fom the outside looking in?

    The majority of the time you'll be wrong.
    Then you should never have an opinion ever again because you will never have perfect knowledge.

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