Obama to Meet with BP CEO!!!!!!!

[SUPDOG]

You can't say this guys not on the ball!

He must have read Palin's Facebook page. Why does it seem that when it is time to put on the big boy pants that Obama needs others to tell him how to do it? Talk about a puppet! LOL!


http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100610...tionbpchairman

[TheSphinx 2.0]

I will say, (not to get on Obama) but I was suprised when he said he hadn't met with the CEO of BP after all that time...and the reason he gave (he already knows what those type of guys are going to say so why bother to meet with him) was really embarrassing in my opinion.

-TS

[Nevada_Ballin]

I don't think he should meet with him at all. This is why he has staffers. Nothing is going to change due to this meeting. The oil leak will not close faster, the booms will not suddenly soak up more oil and Kevin Costner will not automatically get 50,000 of his machines out there to protect the coastlines.

It's a photo op for both forced by the media.


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[TheSphinx 2.0]

I don't think he should meet with him at all. This is why he has staffers. Nothing is going to change due to this meeting. The oil leak will not close faster, the booms will not suddenly soak up more oil and Kevin Costner will not automatically get 50,000 of his machines out there to protect the coastlines.

It's a photo op for both forced by the media.


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I completely disagree. When you are dealing with one of the worst disasters in the history of the country you need to get your top guy (the President) to meet with their top guy (Chairman, CEO) and anybody else who knows what needs to be done. I agree that the President can't be on the shoreline scooping up oil but if he can take time to go and look at oil on the beach for photos he can take the time to talk to the head of the company that is trying to stop the disaster from becoming any worse. I wasn't looking for the President to meet with the CEO in the beginning when it looked like this was going to be a typical spill that would be stopped rather quickly but once it became the "worst spill in history" and it starting wiping out billions of dollars of worth then I think the big guns needed to get involved.

I have been in high level business meetings long enough to know that when the big boss steps in the room you know this is a serious issue and everybody better be on their toes. When you are dealing with some mid-level cabinent staffer (or some mid manager in a company) you can bully him around and not worry about it...but when you are looking in the face of the President of the United States you know you better be on your game. You don't screw up when you know you have to answer to the big boss...

Its the reason why when the President starting making comments BPs stock dropped like a rock and now the new British PM is making comments. For whatever people have to say about the President of the US, when he talks people listen and when he makes it known this is his top priority people move a little bit quicker, because nobody wants to be the one who has to go back to the President and say "oops, what we told you before was all made up"

-TS

I can just imagaine if a month after Katrina Bush said he had not met with the the guy in charge of the organization heading the relief efforts because he already knew what he would say. Sure that was a government agency but the point is when something like this hits the big guys need to get in a room and have a discussion...

[Nevada_Ballin]

I completely disagree. When you are dealing with one of the worst disasters in the history of the country you need to get your top guy (the President) to meet with their top guy (Chairman, CEO) and anybody else who knows what needs to be done. I agree that the President can't be on the shoreline scooping up oil but if he can take time to go and look at oil on the beach for photos he can take the time to talk to the head of the company that is trying to stop the disaster from becoming any worse. I wasn't looking for the President to meet with the CEO in the beginning when it looked like this was going to be a typical spill that would be stopped rather quickly but once it became the "worst spill in history" and it starting wiping out billions of dollars of worth then I think the big guns needed to get involved.

I have been in high level business meetings long enough to know that when the big boss steps in the room you know this is a serious issue and everybody better be on their toes. When you are dealing with some mid-level cabinent staffer (or some mid manager in a company) you can bully him around and not worry about it...but when you are looking in the face of the President of the United States you know you better be on your game. You don't screw up when you know you have to answer to the big boss...

Its the reason why when the President starting making comments BPs stock dropped like a rock and now the new British PM is making comments. For whatever people have to say about the President of the US, when he talks people listen and when he makes it known this is his top priority people move a little bit quicker, because nobody wants to be the one who has to go back to the President and say "oops, what we told you before was all made up"

-TS

I can just imagaine if a month after Katrina Bush said he had not met with the the guy in charge of the organization heading the relief efforts because he already knew what he would say. Sure that was a government agency but the point is when something like this hits the big guys need to get in a room and have a discussion...

It accomplishes nothing. I don't recall George H. Bush meeting with Exxon's CEO after the Valdez accident, which at the time was the largest environmental incident in this country. Getting together with BP's CEO could be perceived as Obama "buddying up" with big oil - especially when nothing changes after the meeting.

You can't compare Katrina to this oil spill, one was a natural disaster that came with 4 days worth of warnings, forced millions of people to evacuate and required immediate FEMA response to save human lives while the other is human error that came with no warning, does not have the "immediate" impact of a hurricane, could have been prevented and still needs to be stopped.

Obama meeting with BP accomplishes nothing for the sake of solving the problems. If Obama really wanted to have a meaningful meeting with someone, he'd get together with some engineers who can discuss the solutions first person.


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[R-ILLA]

You can't say this guys not on the ball!

He must have read Palin's Facebook page. Why does it seem that when it is time to put on the big boy pants that Obama needs others to tell him how to do it? Talk about a puppet! LOL!


http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100610...tionbpchairman

Ha Ha. They're all puppets.....you're almost there.

[sanantonio]

WTF are they going to talk about that will resolve the problem? All it will accomplish is ........nothing.

[SUPDOG]

LOL! What a surprise Nevada Bobblin' agrees with Obama's position....AGAIN!


I had a hose bust on me twice on a piece of equipment. It was not assembled correctly. It created a HUGE mess. If I would have been in the wrong place ath the time, this "disaster" could have damaged my customer's property.

I was on the phone THE EXACT moment it happened talking to the owner of the company. Why wouldn't you? Wow. Should I have asked one of my employees to call him and compleain? Are you kidding me? What a joke.


Wow. How stupid can you get with these responses.


Anyway, Odumbot said initially he wouldn't meet with the BP CEO because the CEO was one of "those guys" (you know an evil capatalist) who would say anything etc.

So why is it that Obama has "summoned" one of "those guys" now? Any ideas?

[TheSphinx 2.0]

It accomplishes nothing. I don't recall George H. Bush meeting with Exxon's CEO after the Valdez accident, which at the time was the largest environmental incident in this country. Getting together with BP's CEO could be perceived as Obama "buddying up" with big oil - especially when nothing changes after the meeting.

You can't compare Katrina to this oil spill, one was a natural disaster that came with 4 days worth of warnings, forced millions of people to evacuate and required immediate FEMA response to save human lives while the other is human error that came with no warning, does not have the "immediate" impact of a hurricane, could have been prevented and still needs to be stopped.

Obama meeting with BP accomplishes nothing for the sake of solving the problems. If Obama really wanted to have a meaningful meeting with someone, he'd get together with some engineers who can discuss the solutions first person.


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I'm sorry but you obviously have never been in a meeting with the big boss to say that seeing the man face to face accomplishes nothing. Ask any lawyer how things move when a Partner walks into the room. (Hey Side, I don't know if you work in a Partnership but if you do what happens when a partner -- named or otherwise -- shows up to a meeting or asks you for your report or tells you he wants to see your findings tomorrow morning). Ask any financial analyst what happens when the CFO sits in on a meeting. Ask anybody what happens when the CEO comes to a meeting. When the big guys show up it means something....people work harder...they move faster...the adrenaline starts pumping...the brain starts firing. I've lived it too many times...I know it has an effect.

Sure the President isn't going to walk in and things will magically be solved, but if you don't think having to look the Man in the face and give him a report makes people work that much harder and stay up that much longer to figure out a solution then I flat out think you are wrong. I have been on both ends of it (being the man in a situation -- sort of -- and being the guy reporting to the man) and when you know the big guy has his eye on you it matters...ALOT. You don't go home as early as you might have. You make that extra call. You look at that extra piece of data. You dot every I and cross every T (even if you already did it) you go back and make sure you didn't miss something.

I can remember countless times watching people work at what I thought was an incredibly rapid pace double their speed and efforts when the big boss gets involved. Shoot I remember one time I was running a meeting when I was a banking analyst on Wall Street. I prepared for the meeting incredibly hard and went over everything and was about to call it a night when I got a call from my boss saying that the big man was coming to the meeting because there was some connnection to a big deal on the other side of the bank and they wanted somebody more senior than the two of us there to show how important this was to the firm. First of all my presentation was cut in half because my boss then wanted to get some shine (because the big man was going to be there...funny how that works). Needless to say I stayed up all night going over things and came into the meeting jacked up...and crushed it (even with my part being shared with my boss). Would I have been as on point if the big man wasn't there? I don't know but there was no way in hell I was going to find that out. Now if I was that freaked out about a small banking client, imagine what it must be like to have to sit across from the President of the United States and say "uh sorry but I don't know what to do". If that is the answer someone has to give to the POTUS (the most powerful man in the world) I am pretty damn sure he/she hadn't slept the last 5 nights because they were tyring everything under the sun to not have to have that moment.

Seriously, it means something...and it has an effect. I'm sure in running your company you have noticed that when you get on the phone with a supplier or with a customer it means a lot more than when your underling does...

-TS

[RicoVacilon]

Is he gonna kick his ***?

[sanantonio]

I'm sorry but you obviously have never been in a meeting with the big boss to say that seeing the man face to face accomplishes nothing. Ask any lawyer how things move when a Partner walks into the room. (Hey Side, I don't know if you work in a Partnership but if you do what happens when a partner -- named or otherwise -- shows up to a meeting or asks you for your report or tells you he wants to see your findings tomorrow morning). Ask any financial analyst what happens when the CFO sits in on a meeting. Ask anybody what happens when the CEO comes to a meeting. When the big guys show up it means something....people work harder...they move faster...the adrenaline starts pumping...the brain starts firing. I've lived it too many times...I know it has an effect.

Sure the President isn't going to walk in and things will magically be solved, but if you don't think having to look the Man in the face and give him a report makes people work that much harder and stay up that much longer to figure out a solution then I flat out think you are wrong. I have been on both ends of it (being the man in a situation -- sort of -- and being the guy reporting to the man) and when you know the big guy has his eye on you it matters...ALOT. You don't go home as early as you might have. You make that extra call. You look at that extra piece of data. You dot every I and cross every T (even if you already did it) you go back and make sure you didn't miss something.

I can remember countless times watching people work at what I thought was an incredibly rapid pace double their speed and efforts when the big boss gets involved. Shoot I remember one time I was running a meeting when I was a banking analyst on Wall Street. I prepared for the meeting incredibly hard and went over everything and was about to call it a night when I got a call from my boss saying that the big man was coming to the meeting because there was some connnection to a big deal on the other side of the bank and they wanted somebody more senior than the two of us there to show how important this was to the firm. First of all my presentation was cut in half because my boss then wanted to get some shine (because the big man was going to be there...funny how that works). Needless to say I stayed up all night going over things and came into the meeting jacked up...and crushed it (even with my part being shared with my boss). Would I have been as on point if the big man wasn't there? I don't know but there was no way in hell I was going to find that out. Now if I was that freaked out about a small banking client, imagine what it must be like to have to sit across from the President of the United States and say "uh sorry but I don't know what to do". If that is the answer someone has to give to the POTUS (the most powerful man in the world) I am pretty damn sure he/she hadn't slept the last 5 nights because they were tyring everything under the sun to not have to have that moment.

Seriously, it means something...and it has an effect. I'm sure in running your company you have noticed that when you get on the phone with a supplier or with a customer it means a lot more than when your underling does...

-TS

In the end how much faster will this meeting help to sop up the mess? It's PR bullshyt plain and simple.

[TheSphinx 2.0]

In the end how much faster will this meeting help to sop up the mess? It's PR bullshyt plain and simple.

The same thing...it is clear you have never had to walk into a meeting with the big boss when the spotlight is on you. If you have never experienced that pressue then you will believe that those meetings have no impact on the outcome. I have been there and I know they do. I have seen it too many times in too many companies wth too many top executives...when the big boss is looking at you, you move faster, think harder and work longer than you otherwise would...

I am damn sure that if the CEO of BP wasn't down there everyday hounding them about that spill there wouldn't be a cap on it today...and I am willing to bet that if Obama would have been on them sooner that plug would have been on there sooner. Imagine what it would have been like for the BP CEO if Obama was sitting across from him and said "if you dont' get this fixed yesterday I will lobby every member in congress to retroactively change the liability limit laws and make sure we liquidate every asset BP has...even that crap well in Nigeria that you can't get oil to flow from".

But on the other hand...maybe you are right and it would have changed nothing. Maybe the most powerful man in the world comes to the office and people say "sorry man, can't move any faster". Either way it makes no sense not to try. If the meeting works it gets plugged faster...if it doesn't you are right where you would have been. All upside no downside...

-TS

Also to say that meeting with probably the most knowledgable person in the world about that particular spill (the CEO of BP and the appropriate people around him) is only a PR move shows a serious lack of understanding about a lot of things. Walking down the shoreline picking up sand is a PR move. Holding a private meeting with the top brass at BP is a smart move. Also lets not forget that when the question was asked to him there was nothing to say he hadn't at least talked to the CEO of BP in private. This whole "it wouold only be a PR move" garbage that people are spewing now is a way to deflect the fact that he could have met with him in private weeks ago but chose not to. To be honest that is why I was originally suprised...I thought he had already met with him privately at that point. I can understand why he didn't feel the need to meet with him at first, but when it got big and he was out there making comments that he was in charge I was sure he had been in contact with BP on the L to make sure things were under control and and he was about to be made to look good...guess I was wrong...

[sanantonio]

The same thing...it is clear you have never had to walk into a meeting with the big boss when the spotlight is on you. If you have never experienced that pressue then you will believe that those meetings have no impact on the outcome. I have been there and I know they do. I have seen it too many times in too many companies wth too many top executives...when the big boss is looking at you, you move faster, think harder and work longer than you otherwise would...

I am damn sure that if the CEO of BP wasn't down there everyday hounding them about that spill there wouldn't be a cap on it today...and I am willing to bet that if Obama would have been on them sooner that plug would have been on there sooner. Imagine what it would have been like for the BP CEO if Obama was sitting across from him and said "if you dont' get this fixed yesterday I will lobby every member in congress to retroactively change the liability limit laws and make sure we liquidate every asset BP has...even that crap well in Nigeria that you can't get oil to flow from".

But on the other hand...maybe you are right and it would have changed nothing. Maybe the most powerful man in the world comes to the office and people say "sorry man, can't move any faster". Either way it makes no sense not to try. If the meeting works it gets plugged faster...if it doesn't you are right where you would have been. All upside no downside...

-TS

Also to say that meeting with probably the most knowledgable person in the world about that particular spill (the CEO of BP and the appropriate people around him) is only a PR move shows a serious lack of understanding about a lot of things. Walking down the shoreline picking up sand is a PR move. Holding a private meeting with the top brass at BP is a smart move. Also lets not forget that when the question was asked to him there was nothing to say he hadn't at least talked to the CEO of BP in private. This whole "it wouold only be a PR move" garbage that people are spewing now is a way to deflect the fact that he could have met with him in private weeks ago but chose not to. To be honest that is why I was originally suprised...I thought he had already met with him privately at that point. I can understand why he didn't feel the need to meet with him at first, but when it got big and he was out there making comments that he was in charge I was sure he had been in contact with BP on the L to make sure things were under control and and he was about to be made to look good...guess I was wrong...

My lack of understanding?? Seriously??? Naive much? Here is what I've known which is why this meeting is a total circle jerk!!!

The incestuous ties between the MMS and the oil industry have not been severed with the election of Obama. Obama was in fact the top recipient of BP employee donations in the 2008 election cycle, and the company has mobilized tens of millions in a massive lobbying campaign that has brought on board such powerful Washington insiders as Democratic Party kingmaker John Podesta, former Democratic House majority leader Thomas Daschle and former Republican Senator Alan Simpson a key member of Obamas bipartisan budget committee. Current CIA director Leon Panetta has also served on BPs external advisory council.

Only weeks before the Gulf disaster in an open sop to the oil companies Obama declared his intention to make large regions of the US coastline available for oil drilling.The Deepwater Horizon explosion is the result of decades of deregulation which proclaimed that the free market could best regulate itself. Beginning in the late 1970s the US government under both Democratic and Republican administrations has worked to systematically eliminate all constraints on corporate profit making

Oh I can see this meeting solving the issue right away lol.

[MonoxideChild]

Ha what if he really did kcik his *** behind closed doors. You know, bring it back to circa 1900.

[TheSphinx 2.0]

My lack of understanding?? Seriously??? Naive much? Here is what I've known which is why this meeting is a total circle jerk!!!



Oh I can see this meeting solving the issue right away lol.

So because Obama got money from BP he shouldn't try to learn about the disaster and try to make sure it is handled quickly and properly...he shouldn't put the screws to them because they supported him...because obviously getting things done quicker wouldn't have saved BP money and wouldn't have saved the more than $50b in lost market capilatization...also since Obama got a lot of money for BP he is obviously willing to throw his political career away for them because no other firm (like maybe all the other oil and gas firms circling BP to buy them now) would benefit from BP going under...and might give him some money next time...

Stop basing your opinin on some article you got from the net and trying to use it to make you look like you know more than you know...

Once again, you have obviously never been in any type of big money, big deal situation becuase if you had you would have a totally different opinion...

-TS