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    I've got a question for the folks at EA

    With all this talk about the "Second Title Update" (A.K.A. Patch) there's has been mention of trivial things like "Uniforms getting dirty", but yet no mention of things that really matter involving gameplay.

    I mean...what's the point of my uniform getting dirty if there's NEVER any weather for online play? Oooooh my uniform's dirty! Hope the CPU is impressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungVito View Post
    With all this talk about the "Second Title Update" (A.K.A. Patch) there's has been mention of trivial things like "Uniforms getting dirty", but yet no mention of things that really matter involving gameplay.

    I mean...what's the point of my uniform getting dirty if there's NEVER any weather for online play? Oooooh my uniform's dirty! Hope the CPU is impressed.
    Lemme get this straight, you don't know everything about the update but you want to complain about it anyway? lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevada_Ballin View Post
    Lemme get this straight, you don't know everything about the update but you want to complain about it anyway? lol


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    He knows enough NB.

    Madden and NCAA are notorious at ignoring glaring problems while adding frilliness that isn't necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevada_Ballin View Post
    Lemme get this straight, you don't know everything about the update but you want to complain about it anyway? lol


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    Once again NB...you and your lil' fanboy Micura read what you want to read instead of what's actually written.

    I SAID....I have heard mention of things like "uniform deterioration" but did not hear anything about gameplay. To let you FURTHER know that I read the SAME pastapadre page you did...I can say that I read that they would make much needed changes to online play as well.

    Now...back to my point. If EA is going to go so far as to mention what "improvements" they're going to make to online play, while at the SAME time saying that they're showing the wear and tear on the uniforms then it would only make sense that one of these online "improvements" should be to ACTUALLY HAVE WEATHER when you play online. I mean hell...what's the point of have The Weather Channel sponsor your "Live Weather" if most people aren't even going to see it?

    And yes...at the end of the day. These issues come in a DISTANT second to the problems with gameplay itself. (I.E. Man-to-Man Supercoverage)

    Was that clear enough for you NB? Not to be an a**, but you and your little "friend" have a habit of making personal attacks and its getting a bit tired. I can understand Michura doing this, but a "SuperModerator" such as yourself should be better than this. Just simply answer the question and keep it professional.

    And lastly...if anyone hears anything concerning the issues I've asked about, please share.

    Signed...A Grown Up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungVito View Post
    Once again NB...you and your lil' fanboy Micura read what you want to read instead of what's actually written.

    I SAID....I have heard mention of things like "uniform deterioration" but did not hear anything about gameplay. To let you FURTHER know that I read the SAME pastapadre page you did...I can say that I read that they would make much needed changes to online play as well.

    Now...back to my point. If EA is going to go so far as to mention what "improvements" they're going to make to online play, while at the SAME time saying that they're showing the wear and tear on the uniforms then it would only make sense that one of these online "improvements" should be to ACTUALLY HAVE WEATHER when you play online. I mean hell...what's the point of have The Weather Channel sponsor your "Live Weather" if most people aren't even going to see it?

    And yes...at the end of the day. These issues come in a DISTANT second to the problems with gameplay itself. (I.E. Man-to-Man Supercoverage)

    Was that clear enough for you NB? Not to be an a**, but you and your little "friend" have a habit of making personal attacks and its getting a bit tired. I can understand Michura doing this, but a "SuperModerator" such as yourself should be better than this. Just simply answer the question and keep it professional.

    And lastly...if anyone hears anything concerning the issues I've asked about, please share.

    Signed...A Grown Up.
    If you don't like the game, then don't play it... Man to man isn't THAT over-powered. If you run som sort of bunch/tight set and have some drags and corner routes, BOOM someone is open....

    P.S. You sound like an arrogant a-hole when you sign "A Grown Up".

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    Quote Originally Posted by BostonsFinest View Post
    If you don't like the game, then don't play it... Man to man isn't THAT over-powered. If you run som sort of bunch/tight set and have some drags and corner routes, BOOM someone is open....

    P.S. You sound like an arrogant a-hole when you sign "A Grown Up".
    Not my intention to sound arrogant. If you knew the history behind the comment then you'd understand where I was coming from.

    Now as far as the Man-to-Man issue. Its been well documented that sure, there are some "unbumpable" plays you can run to combat this. That's not the point. The point is that we should have to resort to "glitches in the Matrix" when simple football strategy and Matchups should suffice. I.E. Sure...Antonio Gates isn't gonna beat Derell Rivas on a deep route, but you let Gates run a curl route while Rivas is playing him "off" and the only option for Rivas is to either let him catch, or get called for interference.

    Not sure if you've played the Madden Demo yet, but the way that the DB play the Receiver is MUCH more realistic than the way its being run on NCAA. No one can argue the fact that NCAA's DB almost seem telepathic when playing Man-to-Man.

    Once again...concerning the "Grown Up" comment. It was not directed at the general populace. It was directed at "certain individuals" who choose to reduce this site to nothing more than a gripe session instead of what its truly meant for. A place for Football Video Game Nerds (don't front...embrace it) to come together and HOPEFULLY get our ideas heard to improve the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungVito View Post
    Once again NB...you and your lil' fanboy Micura read what you want to read instead of what's actually written.

    I SAID....I have heard mention of things like "uniform deterioration" but did not hear anything about gameplay. To let you FURTHER know that I read the SAME pastapadre page you did...I can say that I read that they would make much needed changes to online play as well.

    Now...back to my point. If EA is going to go so far as to mention what "improvements" they're going to make to online play, while at the SAME time saying that they're showing the wear and tear on the uniforms then it would only make sense that one of these online "improvements" should be to ACTUALLY HAVE WEATHER when you play online. I mean hell...what's the point of have The Weather Channel sponsor your "Live Weather" if most people aren't even going to see it?

    And yes...at the end of the day. These issues come in a DISTANT second to the problems with gameplay itself. (I.E. Man-to-Man Supercoverage)

    Was that clear enough for you NB? Not to be an a**, but you and your little "friend" have a habit of making personal attacks and its getting a bit tired. I can understand Michura doing this, but a "SuperModerator" such as yourself should be better than this. Just simply answer the question and keep it professional.

    And lastly...if anyone hears anything concerning the issues I've asked about, please share.

    Signed...A Grown Up.
    I didn't read what I wanted to read, I read what you wrote. Which was "I've heard mention of things..." Let's complain about hearsay and what others say before seeing for ourselves what actually gets done - if anything.

    A "grown up" would wait until they had the update in-hand to complain instead of jumping to conclusions. Sign that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAV View Post
    He knows enough NB.

    Madden and NCAA are notorious at ignoring glaring problems while adding frilliness that isn't necessary.
    Day 1 patch killed the QB Walk and other things that were in the demo. It's just a little absurd to assume one knows everything before they even see it. But I get it, there will always be lovers and haters. The haters are just the loudest in every crowd.

    The people complaining about the man coverage want the game eased up (or dumbed down, take your pick) to make it easy for themselves. If the game is too hard, move it down to Varsity mode. No, wait, that would be too much for the ego to take - just dumb down Heisman level instead... lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungVito View Post
    Once again...concerning the "Grown Up" comment. It was not directed at the general populace. It was directed at "certain individuals" who choose to reduce this site to nothing more than a gripe session instead of what its truly meant for. A place for Football Video Game Nerds (don't front...embrace it) to come together and HOPEFULLY get our ideas heard to improve the game.
    **looks at this and laughs at the hypocrisy of the same person's "gripe" session in this thread**


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevada_Ballin View Post
    The people complaining about the man coverage want the game eased up (or dumbed down, take your pick) to make it easy for themselves. If the game is too hard, move it down to Varsity mode. No, wait, that would be too much for the ego to take - just dumb down Heisman level instead... lol
    Stop it. Just stop.

    I don't want man coverage toned down because I want it "easy" (LOL at that ****: it's already crazy easy to move the ball). I want it toned down because it completely detracts from any sort of realism in this game. When you can show me film of corners running slants three steps ahead of a wide receiver in real life I'll stop complaining.

    And spare me with whole deal about expecting too much: If EA gave us the ability to shade our corners manually we wouldn't have this problem. That's not too much to ask. Unfortunately, they're more interested in giving us purty colors and tunnel entrances

    If you enjoy the game that's cool. Just don't assume ****. I'll bet if you played me you would find that I'm actually pretty good. Same with HCopenhagen, I suspect. We're just tired of this series being stuck in quicksand. I want to play something realistic, not NCAA Street 2011.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSUEagle View Post
    Stop it. Just stop.

    I don't want man coverage toned down because I want it "easy" (LOL at that ****: it's already crazy easy to move the ball). I want it toned down because it completely detracts from any sort of realism in this game. When you can show me film of corners running slants three steps ahead of a wide receiver in real life I'll stop complaining.

    And spare me with whole deal about expecting too much: If EA gave us the ability to shade our corners manually we wouldn't have this problem. That's not too much to ask. Unfortunately, they're more interested in giving us purty colors and tunnel entrances

    If you enjoy the game that's cool. Just don't assume ****. I'll bet if you played me you would find that I'm actually pretty good. Same with HCopenhagen, I suspect. We're just tired of this series being stuck in quicksand. I want to play something realistic, not NCAA Street 2011.
    Ah yes, I forgot, the quick slant is 100% indefensible and should never be covered. If I had a searchable library of NFL or college film I'd show you dozens of intercepted slants because the CB read the tendency or the QB's 3 step drop.

    :45 second mark "learn the tendencies" > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mwZR...ext=1&index=15

    And this is a video game - you're never going to have 22 player real life game play. Learn where to draw the line between real and fantasy. No one said the game is perfect but I'll tell you what, if I'm playing someone who is throwing a slant every other play, I would expect my CBs to latch on to that eventually and jump the route.

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    GTFO with the Expert Village ****. They're the master of Captain Obvious crap. Gee, you think it's a great idea to shade inside if it's a slant? Really? What else, the sky is blue?

    The point is that there is absolutely no degree of realism. If the corner jumps inside, that should leave him considerably more vulnerable to the quick out/fade. It's simple physics. Now, try throwing a fade in this game. Picked off (unless you resort to the Jet-Pack stuff, which is horse**** in its own right). I can kill man with several different things. I just don't like seeing basic football plays being completely useless. Hell, I've said nothing about the deep comeback (THE hardest route in football to defend) being screwed up for over a decade.

    Besides, if you've played cornerback at all you would understand how hard it is to defend the slant if the receiver's big and positions himself well.

    What I've asked for isn't that much. Read the last post I made in my NCAA sucks thread: I gave three very workable solutions. If they implemented them you might actually see some realism in the passing game (along with completely removing user catching, which I also support).

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSUEagle View Post
    GTFO with the Expert Village ****. They're the master of Captain Obvious crap. Gee, you think it's a great idea to shade inside if it's a slant? Really? What else, the sky is blue?

    The point is that there is absolutely no degree of realism. If the corner jumps inside, that should leave him considerably more vulnerable to the quick out/fade. It's simple physics. Now, try throwing a fade in this game. Picked off (unless you resort to the Jet-Pack stuff, which is horse**** in its own right). I can kill man with several different things. I just don't like seeing basic football plays being completely useless. Hell, I've said nothing about the deep comeback (THE hardest route in football to defend) being screwed up for over a decade.

    Besides, if you've played cornerback at all you would understand how hard it is to defend the slant if the receiver's big and positions himself well.

    What I've asked for isn't that much. Read the last post I made in my NCAA sucks thread: I gave three very workable solutions. If they implemented them you might actually see some realism in the passing game (along with completely removing user catching, which I also support).
    And you make it sound like you are God's expert on football... lol. You aren't the only person here who has had their hand in the game nor are you the only person to ever coach some kids.

    And give up trying to convince people that the man coverage is so intense that it can't be beat - even with slants - cuz it can. Not realistic at times? No kidding. It's a $60 video game, not a $14 billion dollar NASA simulator.


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    Relax man. I just don't think much of Expert Village. If you want to learn about the game and proper technique, etc. go visit coachhuey, or a million different blogs out there.

    And I realize we're going to disagree on this issue. That's fine. I'm not personally attacking you. Just stop with the intellectual demagoguery. I'm not asking for a NASA simulator, as you call it. I'm asking for simple add ons. If FIFA and NHL can come close to getting their product (in sports that are far more variable and fluid than football) then EA can get the NFL/NCAA correct, or at least come closer than they have.

    Just so I'm clear on the last point: I say football is less variable because in real life, all players are governed by rules in a given scheme. EA can absolutely program indivdual players to perform certain functions based on what their counterpart does. If FIFA can do it (and trust me, soccer is far more fluid and less regimented than football) then so can Madden.

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    game isn't gonna change, get over it and stop complaining.

    if you wanted to play perfectly real ball, maybe you should of worked harder on those friday nights.

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