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    I've got a question for the folks at EA

    With all this talk about the "Second Title Update" (A.K.A. Patch) there's has been mention of trivial things like "Uniforms getting dirty", but yet no mention of things that really matter involving gameplay.

    I mean...what's the point of my uniform getting dirty if there's NEVER any weather for online play? Oooooh my uniform's dirty! Hope the CPU is impressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungVito View Post
    With all this talk about the "Second Title Update" (A.K.A. Patch) there's has been mention of trivial things like "Uniforms getting dirty", but yet no mention of things that really matter involving gameplay.

    I mean...what's the point of my uniform getting dirty if there's NEVER any weather for online play? Oooooh my uniform's dirty! Hope the CPU is impressed.
    Lemme get this straight, you don't know everything about the update but you want to complain about it anyway? lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevada_Ballin View Post
    Lemme get this straight, you don't know everything about the update but you want to complain about it anyway? lol


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    He knows enough NB.

    Madden and NCAA are notorious at ignoring glaring problems while adding frilliness that isn't necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAV View Post
    He knows enough NB.

    Madden and NCAA are notorious at ignoring glaring problems while adding frilliness that isn't necessary.
    Day 1 patch killed the QB Walk and other things that were in the demo. It's just a little absurd to assume one knows everything before they even see it. But I get it, there will always be lovers and haters. The haters are just the loudest in every crowd.

    The people complaining about the man coverage want the game eased up (or dumbed down, take your pick) to make it easy for themselves. If the game is too hard, move it down to Varsity mode. No, wait, that would be too much for the ego to take - just dumb down Heisman level instead... lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevada_Ballin View Post
    The people complaining about the man coverage want the game eased up (or dumbed down, take your pick) to make it easy for themselves. If the game is too hard, move it down to Varsity mode. No, wait, that would be too much for the ego to take - just dumb down Heisman level instead... lol
    Stop it. Just stop.

    I don't want man coverage toned down because I want it "easy" (LOL at that ****: it's already crazy easy to move the ball). I want it toned down because it completely detracts from any sort of realism in this game. When you can show me film of corners running slants three steps ahead of a wide receiver in real life I'll stop complaining.

    And spare me with whole deal about expecting too much: If EA gave us the ability to shade our corners manually we wouldn't have this problem. That's not too much to ask. Unfortunately, they're more interested in giving us purty colors and tunnel entrances

    If you enjoy the game that's cool. Just don't assume ****. I'll bet if you played me you would find that I'm actually pretty good. Same with HCopenhagen, I suspect. We're just tired of this series being stuck in quicksand. I want to play something realistic, not NCAA Street 2011.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSUEagle View Post
    Stop it. Just stop.

    I don't want man coverage toned down because I want it "easy" (LOL at that ****: it's already crazy easy to move the ball). I want it toned down because it completely detracts from any sort of realism in this game. When you can show me film of corners running slants three steps ahead of a wide receiver in real life I'll stop complaining.

    And spare me with whole deal about expecting too much: If EA gave us the ability to shade our corners manually we wouldn't have this problem. That's not too much to ask. Unfortunately, they're more interested in giving us purty colors and tunnel entrances

    If you enjoy the game that's cool. Just don't assume ****. I'll bet if you played me you would find that I'm actually pretty good. Same with HCopenhagen, I suspect. We're just tired of this series being stuck in quicksand. I want to play something realistic, not NCAA Street 2011.
    Ah yes, I forgot, the quick slant is 100% indefensible and should never be covered. If I had a searchable library of NFL or college film I'd show you dozens of intercepted slants because the CB read the tendency or the QB's 3 step drop.

    :45 second mark "learn the tendencies" > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mwZR...ext=1&index=15

    And this is a video game - you're never going to have 22 player real life game play. Learn where to draw the line between real and fantasy. No one said the game is perfect but I'll tell you what, if I'm playing someone who is throwing a slant every other play, I would expect my CBs to latch on to that eventually and jump the route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevada_Ballin View Post

    The people complaining about the man coverage want the game eased up (or dumbed down, take your pick) to make it easy for themselves. If the game is too hard, move it down to Varsity mode. No, wait, that would be too much for the ego to take - just dumb down Heisman level instead... lol

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    LOL... Further from the truth. People want the man coverage fixed because it is garbage. It is programmed for the AI to cheat because the game is programmed so poorly. It takes in NO consideration of player ratings. Heck, it isn't even football.

    We want the defense to be realistic. If a WR plays against a DB from Florida it will be much different than that WR going against a DB from North Texas. You dig? But, the game doesn't show that all because player ratings do or mean very very little in this game. Instead, we get this generic piss poor programmed defense from EVERY TEAM.

    I don't want to stick to 3 or 4 plays that beat man. I want to be able to mix and match my playbook. If player rating meant anything then I would be able to open my playbook because then I am not playing against a cheating AI that knows my play. At that point I am concerned with player ratings and not AI. I then have to choose if I am going to throw against Bama's #1 DB or check down to a third or fourth option. The CPU AI does not give you this. You just have to know if in man throw here and if in zone throw here. IT IS BORING THAT WAY.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HcopenhagenH View Post
    LOL... Further from the truth. People want the man coverage fixed because it is garbage. It is programmed for the AI to cheat because the game is programmed so poorly. It takes in NO consideration of player ratings. Heck, it isn't even football.

    We want the defense to be realistic. If a WR plays against a DB from Florida it will be much different than that WR going against a DB from North Texas. You dig? But, the game doesn't show that all because player ratings do or mean very very little in this game. Instead, we get this generic piss poor programmed defense from EVERY TEAM.

    I don't want to stick to 3 or 4 plays that beat man. I want to be able to mix and match my playbook. If player rating meant anything then I would be able to open my playbook because then I am not playing against a cheating AI that knows my play. At that point I am concerned with player ratings and not AI. I then have to choose if I am going to throw against Bama's #1 DB or check down to a third or fourth option. The CPU AI does not give you this. You just have to know if in man throw here and if in zone throw here. IT IS BORING THAT WAY.
    lol.. i dunno what to tell you bro. I posted some highlight videos of me beating man coverage on simple slant calls and with one of them I also showed how to beat it when the defense is running the route with the receiver (which it does not always do, contrary to popular belief).

    But the arguments are always seem to be the same and contradict at times:

    Man is too hard to beat / Man is easy to beat

    The CPU defense knows what play I called / I called a run play out of SG Trips and the defense was in a Nickel Zone

    The CPU kicks my asz all of the time / I just won the national chip with 4 star, C+ rated Nevada in offline franchise the 3rd year in.

    etc, etc, etc.

    Again, I think a lot of people are letting perfect be the enemy of good here. Everyone agrees the game isn't perfect and still needs some work. But that doesn't make it unplayable or not fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevada_Ballin View Post
    Lemme get this straight, you don't know everything about the update but you want to complain about it anyway? lol


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    Once again NB...you and your lil' fanboy Micura read what you want to read instead of what's actually written.

    I SAID....I have heard mention of things like "uniform deterioration" but did not hear anything about gameplay. To let you FURTHER know that I read the SAME pastapadre page you did...I can say that I read that they would make much needed changes to online play as well.

    Now...back to my point. If EA is going to go so far as to mention what "improvements" they're going to make to online play, while at the SAME time saying that they're showing the wear and tear on the uniforms then it would only make sense that one of these online "improvements" should be to ACTUALLY HAVE WEATHER when you play online. I mean hell...what's the point of have The Weather Channel sponsor your "Live Weather" if most people aren't even going to see it?

    And yes...at the end of the day. These issues come in a DISTANT second to the problems with gameplay itself. (I.E. Man-to-Man Supercoverage)

    Was that clear enough for you NB? Not to be an a**, but you and your little "friend" have a habit of making personal attacks and its getting a bit tired. I can understand Michura doing this, but a "SuperModerator" such as yourself should be better than this. Just simply answer the question and keep it professional.

    And lastly...if anyone hears anything concerning the issues I've asked about, please share.

    Signed...A Grown Up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungVito View Post
    Once again NB...you and your lil' fanboy Micura read what you want to read instead of what's actually written.

    I SAID....I have heard mention of things like "uniform deterioration" but did not hear anything about gameplay. To let you FURTHER know that I read the SAME pastapadre page you did...I can say that I read that they would make much needed changes to online play as well.

    Now...back to my point. If EA is going to go so far as to mention what "improvements" they're going to make to online play, while at the SAME time saying that they're showing the wear and tear on the uniforms then it would only make sense that one of these online "improvements" should be to ACTUALLY HAVE WEATHER when you play online. I mean hell...what's the point of have The Weather Channel sponsor your "Live Weather" if most people aren't even going to see it?

    And yes...at the end of the day. These issues come in a DISTANT second to the problems with gameplay itself. (I.E. Man-to-Man Supercoverage)

    Was that clear enough for you NB? Not to be an a**, but you and your little "friend" have a habit of making personal attacks and its getting a bit tired. I can understand Michura doing this, but a "SuperModerator" such as yourself should be better than this. Just simply answer the question and keep it professional.

    And lastly...if anyone hears anything concerning the issues I've asked about, please share.

    Signed...A Grown Up.
    If you don't like the game, then don't play it... Man to man isn't THAT over-powered. If you run som sort of bunch/tight set and have some drags and corner routes, BOOM someone is open....

    P.S. You sound like an arrogant a-hole when you sign "A Grown Up".

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    Quote Originally Posted by BostonsFinest View Post
    If you don't like the game, then don't play it... Man to man isn't THAT over-powered. If you run som sort of bunch/tight set and have some drags and corner routes, BOOM someone is open....

    P.S. You sound like an arrogant a-hole when you sign "A Grown Up".
    Not my intention to sound arrogant. If you knew the history behind the comment then you'd understand where I was coming from.

    Now as far as the Man-to-Man issue. Its been well documented that sure, there are some "unbumpable" plays you can run to combat this. That's not the point. The point is that we should have to resort to "glitches in the Matrix" when simple football strategy and Matchups should suffice. I.E. Sure...Antonio Gates isn't gonna beat Derell Rivas on a deep route, but you let Gates run a curl route while Rivas is playing him "off" and the only option for Rivas is to either let him catch, or get called for interference.

    Not sure if you've played the Madden Demo yet, but the way that the DB play the Receiver is MUCH more realistic than the way its being run on NCAA. No one can argue the fact that NCAA's DB almost seem telepathic when playing Man-to-Man.

    Once again...concerning the "Grown Up" comment. It was not directed at the general populace. It was directed at "certain individuals" who choose to reduce this site to nothing more than a gripe session instead of what its truly meant for. A place for Football Video Game Nerds (don't front...embrace it) to come together and HOPEFULLY get our ideas heard to improve the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungVito View Post
    Once again...concerning the "Grown Up" comment. It was not directed at the general populace. It was directed at "certain individuals" who choose to reduce this site to nothing more than a gripe session instead of what its truly meant for. A place for Football Video Game Nerds (don't front...embrace it) to come together and HOPEFULLY get our ideas heard to improve the game.
    **looks at this and laughs at the hypocrisy of the same person's "gripe" session in this thread**


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    Quote Originally Posted by BostonsFinest View Post
    If you don't like the game, then don't play it... Man to man isn't THAT over-powered. If you run som sort of bunch/tight set and have some drags and corner routes, BOOM someone is open....

    P.S. You sound like an arrogant a-hole when you sign "A Grown Up".
    From one Pats fan to another man to man is sickening and we shouldn't have to find things to beat the super pumped up man coverage maybe if they looked at previous versions football video games i.e.(2k5 and others) maybe they can produce quality game instead of the quick fixes that produce more problems. JUst like the strategic stick why r u changing the controls so there won't be any nano's how about fixing the blocking with no more suction blocks that they claim aren't in the game anymore. Oh thats right they will put the controls back to oldschool, but thats when football season starts if its gonna take that long u might as well let it be and fix the other issue's u have every single year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungVito View Post
    Once again NB...you and your lil' fanboy Micura read what you want to read instead of what's actually written.

    I SAID....I have heard mention of things like "uniform deterioration" but did not hear anything about gameplay. To let you FURTHER know that I read the SAME pastapadre page you did...I can say that I read that they would make much needed changes to online play as well.

    Now...back to my point. If EA is going to go so far as to mention what "improvements" they're going to make to online play, while at the SAME time saying that they're showing the wear and tear on the uniforms then it would only make sense that one of these online "improvements" should be to ACTUALLY HAVE WEATHER when you play online. I mean hell...what's the point of have The Weather Channel sponsor your "Live Weather" if most people aren't even going to see it?

    And yes...at the end of the day. These issues come in a DISTANT second to the problems with gameplay itself. (I.E. Man-to-Man Supercoverage)

    Was that clear enough for you NB? Not to be an a**, but you and your little "friend" have a habit of making personal attacks and its getting a bit tired. I can understand Michura doing this, but a "SuperModerator" such as yourself should be better than this. Just simply answer the question and keep it professional.

    And lastly...if anyone hears anything concerning the issues I've asked about, please share.

    Signed...A Grown Up.
    I didn't read what I wanted to read, I read what you wrote. Which was "I've heard mention of things..." Let's complain about hearsay and what others say before seeing for ourselves what actually gets done - if anything.

    A "grown up" would wait until they had the update in-hand to complain instead of jumping to conclusions. Sign that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevada_Ballin View Post
    I didn't read what I wanted to read, I read what you wrote. Which was "I've heard mention of things..." Let's complain about hearsay and what others say before seeing for ourselves what actually gets done - if anything.

    A "grown up" would wait until they had the update in-hand to complain instead of jumping to conclusions. Sign that.

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    With the history of EA constantly LYING? Come on man. There is a pattern they have developed and the general football gamer believes all there BS.

    Here is what is going to happen. The patch will be implemented and nothing to little is going to take place in it. I will put it this way, the "Dirt on the Jerseys" may be the only thing you will even notice. How do I know this? It is typical EA BS they feed you every year. We are going to do this, this, and this. We are going to fix this, this, and this. They do very little because they are afraid to break the game. The lie to the public to keep them arm distance away from storming Orlando with pitchforks.

    Oh... and Vito... LIVE WEATHER HAS NEVER WORKED ON NCAA. EVER!!!!


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    NCAA 10 is a steaming pile of crap.

    NCAA 11... You can put a dress on a Pig but in the end she is still a Pig.



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