Silva Is Going To Beat The Brakes Off Sonnen!!!

[levdgg]

Nobody has an iron chin that is so over used. Ususally that person hasn't been hit square on the button plain and simple. Ask "boy can he take a punch" Chris Leben. You're going to see a bad matchup and it has nothing to with Chael Sonnen lol.

You're speaking in generalities. Chael has never been KOed, which is relevant considering he can actually shoot in on Silva without the fear of being easily knocked out a a la Maia and Leites who flopped the time.

Either way it is a lot of speculation. The only thing we do know is the last time they fought, Chael delivered the biggest five-round butt kicking in UFC. If silva doesn't put his lights out it is a very tough matchup go a guy with bad takedown defense.

[JoeJGibbs]

I don't know a d@mn thing about the intricacies of MMA, but I do know that watching Silva from an athletic standpoint is the most entertaining thing I've seen in awhile. Much of MMA is flailing would-be shots. that said, I've never seen anyone punch and kick with such speed and accuracy like Silva. He doesn't waste punches, and kicks. His shots land square most of the time, even when he's being backed up.

The kick he gave Belfort is a great example. A straight snap kick directly down the pipe which really came out of nowhere. Ouch.

In order to beat him, you really have to be able to eat what he's shelling out because he's going to land them on you.


Edit: HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, wait for it.. wait for it..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Noz3aqxziPU

[sanantonio]

You're speaking in generalities. Chael has never been KOed, which is relevant considering he can actually shoot in on Silva without the fear of being easily knocked out a a la Maia and Leites who flopped the time.

Either way it is a lot of speculation. The only thing we do know is the last time they fought, Chael delivered the biggest five-round butt kicking in UFC. If silva doesn't put his lights out it is a very tough matchup go a guy with bad takedown defense.

We will see about how easy it is to shoot on Silva since this time he won't be injured. If Chael can take him down easily more power to him. It's not like Silva is a chump on his back he told big Nog before the fight that he was going to submit Chael why I have no idea. This fight he has told everyone including Chael what he's going to do and submit wasn't no where in the conversation. By the way it wasn't five rounds Chael got submitted remember he tapped like the bytch he is.

[MonoxideChild]

We will see about how easy it is to shoot on Silva since this time he won't be injured. If Chael can take him down easily more power to him. It's not like Silva is a chump on his back he told big Nog before the fight that he was going to submit Chael why I have no idea. This fight he has told everyone including Chael what he's going to do and submit wasn't no where in the conversation. By the way it wasn't five rounds Chael got submitted remember he tapped like the bytch he is.

You are aware that Silva got subbed by scrubs right? Chonan went super judoka with a flying scissor heel hook and Silva tapped before it was even really tight. Silva tapped from a triangle while he was still standing and completely able to defend himself.

Silva isn't good on the ground, which is the reason he runs away and counters. All that dancing around during the Maia fight was because he knew that was Maia's territory. He doesn't wanna drag water with Sonnen.

[GAV]

You are aware that Silva got subbed by scrubs right? Chonan went super judoka with a flying scissor heel hook and Silva tapped before it was even really tight. Silva tapped from a triangle while he was still standing and completely able to defend himself.

Silva isn't good on the ground, which is the reason he runs away and counters. All that dancing around during the Maia fight was because he knew that was Maia's territory. He doesn't wanna drag water with Sonnen.

C'mon homey. Are you really calling professional fighters "super scrubs" ?

Maia may be the best pure jujitsu in the history of the art. Anderson Silva is one of the best stand-up martial artists that I have ever seen. Neither fighter wanted to enter the other fighter's arena, so we ended up with a relatively uninspiring fight.

Silva isn't bad on the ground. He's actually very good on the ground. He's just better at standup. MMA wrestlers must be able to negate jujitsu in order to win with wrestling. Chael is especially good at negating jujitsu, but he tends to get impatient when he gets tired and Silva was able to take advantage by applying his jujitsu. Chael should have won that fight, but he didn't and now he has a motivated and healthy mythical all timer in his prime to contend with. Chael has what he wants, but can he take advantage? I just don't see it happening.

[MonoxideChild]

C'mon homey. Are you really calling professional fighters "super scrubs" ?

Maia may be the best pure jujitsu in the history of the art. Anderson Silva is one of the best stand-up martial artists that I have ever seen. Neither fighter wanted to enter the other fighter's arena, so we ended up with a relatively uninspiring fight.

Silva isn't bad on the ground. He's actually very good on the ground. He's just better at standup. MMA wrestlers must be able to negate jujitsu in order to win with wrestling. Chael is especially good at negating jujitsu, but he tends to get impatient when he gets tired and Silva was able to take advantage by applying his jujitsu. Chael should have won that fight, but he didn't and now he has a motivated and healthy mythical all timer in his prime to contend with. Chael has what he wants, but can he take advantage? I just don't see it happening.

Yep. Takase is a ****ing scrub. Period.

[sanantonio]

Yep. Takase is a ****ing scrub. Period.

You do realize you are talking about subs that happened eight and nine years ago, right? You don't think Silva has learned a little something something since then? C'mon man!!!!! Get with the realness here. If Silve is that same fighter there is no way he is UFC champ let alone this long regardless of who he's fought. And lets not forget Sonnen sent his surrogate (Okami) in against Silva hoping against hope and we saw how that turned out against a healthy Silva.

Most of you Sonnen backers have bought into his yap yap yap yap yap and him pushing himself as being the best well I say bullshyt!!! WTF has he done? Who has he beat of note? He lost to Maia! And last I checked he doesn't knock people out. I think Henderson would knock Sonnen into next Tuesday and I would take that a year from now with Henderson at 42. Sonnen is going to get the brakes beat off his azz he asked for the bull and got King Kong instead lol.

[levdgg]

You do realize you are talking about subs that happened eight and nine years ago, right? You don't think Silva has learned a little something something since then? C'mon man!!!!! Get with the realness here. If Silve is that same fighter there is no way he is UFC champ let alone this long regardless of who he's fought. And lets not forget Sonnen sent his surrogate (Okami) in against Silva hoping against hope and we saw how that turned out against a healthy Silva.

Most of you Sonnen backers have bought into his yap yap yap yap yap and him pushing himself as being the best well I say bullshyt!!! WTF has he done? Who has he beat of note? He lost to Maia! And last I checked he doesn't knock people out. I think Henderson would knock Sonnen into next Tuesday and I would take that a year from now with Henderson at 42. Sonnen is going to get the brakes beat off his azz he asked for the bull and got King Kong instead lol.

Only five top-tenners.

Bisping

Staan

Marquardt

Munoz

Okami.

A resurgent Filho at the time.

And he embarrassed Anderson Silva so wtf are you saying? Did you not watch the fight? It was a public homicide. I don't know why this I being dismissed.

[sanantonio]

Only five top-tenners.

Bisping

Staan

Marquardt

Munoz

Okami.

A resurgent Filho at the time.

And he embarrassed Anderson Silva so wtf are you saying? Did you not watch the fight? It was a public homicide. I don't know why this I being dismissed.

Bisping is bullshyt and that was a close fight

You can't be serious about Stann but maybe you are

Silva stopped Marquardt what did Sonnen do? Decision

When did he fight Munoz?

Again Okami got dropped and stopped by Silva and Sonnen a 3rd decision

Filho was a drug head spiraling out of control by thier second fight and you know it.

I don't know how Silva was embarressed since he won the fight by submission. But since you and all the Sonnen backers want to hang your hat on the first 4 rds and 3 minutes of thier last fight good on you. Just remember Silva was injured or you don't have to acknowledge it at all the results will be the same regardless of what you do so thats WTF I'm talking about.

Just like old times, thank you .

[levdgg]

Bisping is bullshyt and that was a close fight

You can't be serious about Stann but maybe you are

Silva stopped Marquardt what did Sonnen do? Decision

When did he fight Munoz?

Again Okami got dropped and stopped by Silva and Sonnen a 3rd decision

Filho was a drug head spiraling out of control by thier second fight and you know it.

I don't know how Silva was embarressed since he won the fight by submission. But since you and all the Sonnen backers want to hang your hat on the first 4 rds and 3 minutes of thier last fight good on you. Just remember Silva was injured or you don't have to acknowledge it at all the results will be the same regardless of what you do so thats WTF I'm talking about.

Just like old times, thank you .

When I asked wtf you were talking about, I was responding to you questioning Chael's victories. He very clearly has beaten about half of the top-ten within the MW division (You are right on the Filho, thing though. My timeline was messed up. That was the height of his lunacy). I don't see how Sonnen not KOing their common opponents is even remotely relevant. Sonnen is a world-class wrestler who grinds the crap out of people, the same way he did Silva in their last fight. He doesn't KO people. Silva does. Irrelevant to the point.

As far as Silva's supposed rib injury, I give that little, if any credence. Nobody has even corroborated to what extent he was hurt. At best it was a veiled post-fight excuse for why he was ragdolled for 23 minutes. He was moving just fine until Sonnen rocked him. I advise re-watching the fight if you don't think so.

Is Silva the best fighter in the world? Of course. I don't even know if Chael is clearly the No. 2 MW. But he is as bad a matchup as you can present to Silva. To summarily dismiss how he manhandled him last time around is just lunacy. Nobody's gameplan is to take a once-in-a-decade butt kicking and then pull out a miraculous submission from their back in the waning minutes. I think it'll be interesting. Silva HAS to KO (or at least stop) Sonnen, and Sonnen has never had his lights put out. The rubber will meet the road on Saturday.

[sanantonio]

When I asked wtf you were talking about, I was responding to you questioning Chael's victories. He very clearly has beaten about half of the top-ten within the MW division (You are right on the Filho, thing though. My timeline was messed up. That was the height of his lunacy). I don't see how Sonnen not KOing their common opponents is even remotely relevant. Sonnen is a world-class wrestler who grinds the crap out of people, the same way he did Silva in their last fight. He doesn't KO people. Silva does. Irrelevant to the point.

As far as Silva's supposed rib injury, I give that little, if any credence. Nobody has even corroborated to what extent he was hurt. At best it was a veiled post-fight excuse for why he was ragdolled for 23 minutes. He was moving just fine until Sonnen rocked him. I advise re-watching the fight if you don't think so.

Is Silva the best fighter in the world? Of course. I don't even know if Chael is clearly the No. 2 MW. But he is as bad a matchup as you can present to Silva. To summarily dismiss how he manhandled him last time around is just lunacy. Nobody's gameplan is to take a once-in-a-decade butt kicking and then pull out a miraculous submission from their back in the waning minutes. I think it'll be interesting. Silva HAS to KO (or at least stop) Sonnen, and Sonnen has never had his lights put out. The rubber will meet the road on Saturday.

Silva says he was hurt and in his mind if he was hurt no need for corroboration there. Getting rag dolled as you called it clearly points to something being wrong with Silva. Chael is good but he's just not that good. You talk about Silva's movements but do we know if he had the full range of motion he needed to do what he normally does? Of course we don't one way or the other but in my opinion there was more to the fight then Chaels skillz. Saturday will be the test and matchup be damned I see Sonnen going nite nite on that iron chin lol.

[levdgg]

Silva says he was hurt and in his mind if he was hurt no need for corroboration there. Getting rag dolled as you called it clearly points to something being wrong with Silva. Chael is good but he's just not that good. You talk about Silva's movements but do we know if he had the full range of motion he needed to do what he normally does? Of course we don't one way or the other but in my opinion there was more to the fight then Chaels skillz. Saturday will be the test and matchup be damned I see Sonnen going nite nite on that iron chin lol.

Exactly. We have one person (the fighter) claiming he was hurt after a fight in which he looked terrible. I lean toward that being an excuse. But yes, considering it was such an aberration from all his other fights, there may be something there.

Either way, I don't want to sound like I am discrediting Silva too much. The point is, I don't see how Sonnen can be so easily dismissed when he absolutely little-brothered Silva last time around. Had it not gone that way, I'd call this an enormous mismatch in favor of Silva. But it did go down that way. The only thing we know for certain (injuries etc.) is that Silva, for whatever reason, was completely overmatched the last time.

It either ends early in favor of Silva, IMO, or Chael basically does what he did when they last met and gets the decision. I'm leaning slightly toward the latter.

[MonoxideChild]

You do realize you are talking about subs that happened eight and nine years ago, right? You don't think Silva has learned a little something something since then? C'mon man!!!!! Get with the realness here. If Silve is that same fighter there is no way he is UFC champ let alone this long regardless of who he's fought. And lets not forget Sonnen sent his surrogate (Okami) in against Silva hoping against hope and we saw how that turned out against a healthy Silva.

Most of you Sonnen backers have bought into his yap yap yap yap yap and him pushing himself as being the best well I say bullshyt!!! WTF has he done? Who has he beat of note? He lost to Maia! And last I checked he doesn't knock people out. I think Henderson would knock Sonnen into next Tuesday and I would take that a year from now with Henderson at 42. Sonnen is going to get the brakes beat off his azz he asked for the bull and got King Kong instead lol.

What he learned was not to go to the ground. They were 8 or 9 years ago because he hasn't allowed himself to get in that position after being embarrassed.

Nobody is discrediting Silva, he's the GOAT, but Chael isn't James Irvin. Sonnen has nothing but bricks in between his ears, and I think that actually helps. Silva preys on guys when they start over-thinking things.

[sanantonio]

What he learned was not to go to the ground. They were 8 or 9 years ago because he hasn't allowed himself to get in that position after being embarrassed.

Nobody is discrediting Silva, he's the GOAT, but Chael isn't James Irvin. Sonnen has nothing but bricks in between his ears, and I think that actually helps. Silva preys on guys when they start over-thinking things.

C'mon on now my dude it's not like Silva don't have any ground skillz he's a black belt in brazilian jui jitsu and he did submit Chael regardless of what you want to say about the over all fight. Silva has proven he can finish from the top or the bottom and one way or the other Big mouth Sonnen is getting finished.

[sanantonio]

Exactly. We have one person (the fighter) claiming he was hurt after a fight in which he looked terrible. I lean toward that being an excuse. But yes, considering it was such an aberration from all his other fights, there may be something there.

Either way, I don't want to sound like I am discrediting Silva too much. The point is, I don't see how Sonnen can be so easily dismissed when he absolutely little-brothered Silva last time around. Had it not gone that way, I'd call this an enormous mismatch in favor of Silva. But it did go down that way. The only thing we know for certain (injuries etc.) is that Silva, for whatever reason, was completely overmatched the last time.

It either ends early in favor of Silva, IMO, or Chael basically does what he did when they last met and gets the decision. I'm leaning slightly toward the latter.

Since I'm actually paying for this one I want to see a 5 round fight lol.