Let it go...Originally Posted by bassmutt
Let it go...
Ask my 7% completed passes 14 sacks and 32 interceptions in a 5minute quesrters game aginst rokkie level how I like the vision cone. Although with my superstar QB named Ron Mexico who is a double threat back with his 88 spd 90 acc and 90 agi and 86 thp and 78 tha. Now comes the whammie...
Against the 49ers using the raiders and Collins injured. I ran 3 pass plays the next game and got 890 running yards with Jordan, 200 with Fargas, 175 with Mexico and 150 with Crockett. And i lost, all three of my pass plays were interceptions 1 was taken back all the way within the last 22 seconds and I lost 27 to 28.
Last edited by GoCOLTS; 08-09-2005 at 11:39 PM.
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I like it. my son and i picked it up at gamespot last night and here's pretty much how it's gone for me:
popped it in the ps2, read the controls in the manual as it loads. - "would you like to watch the video on cone vision & precision passing?" - damn right i do. lol. because of all the info gathered from the guys at VG here, i was pretty familiar with what i was watching. ok son, game on, let's play.
set to all-pro mode. 5 min qtrs. don't ask me why, but we both chose the eagles. we didn't care, we just wanted to play.
i kick off. first thing i see i have to adjust to is the circle button being the change player button. i get the ball on a punt and here we go.... I form whatever pass, i'm playmakering T.O. on a streak... hike! ... ok, the cone automatically sets for the primary receiver if you don't change it before the play... right analog stick .. whoa nelly! that sucker panned FAST... threw the ball 10 yds over his head and 5 yds out of bounds...
not to go thru the whole game, my son wins 19-13. freaking 2:30 am, pick up where i left off tomorrow after i take the g/f to the airport.
i get back from the airport, it's off to check out mini camp and precision pass drill. wow, michael vick, cool. it took me till the 3rd try to realize i didn't need to rotate the cone to get the points.... ok, let's go to create-a-playbook so i can look at all the playbooks without going in and out of practice mode.... settle on the Rams playbook for now.
first thing i noticed was they changed the hard slant in singleback empty 5 wide/slot fly play to a quick slant... dammit, i loved that route. after running a lot of pass plays i became comfortable with the cone and what i can do with it. and the truck stick is nice.
my son and i play again, this time to a 14-14 tie... spent this game thinking more about the defense and used the Cover 2 book. Love the adaptive AI, especially when shading the receiver, nice coverage. back to the create-a-playbook to look though all the defenses.
play the CPU this time, Eagles (me) vs Giants. Win easily 28-10. ran the ball well, passing was "ok", 7-15, 128 yds, 2 tds, 2 ints. but i'm going nuts on defense because of the configuration change. keep telling myself it's "X" to sprint dumbass, its "X"!
i wasn't going to get online for a day or so but wanted to see if there were any roster updates and damn, there was, and Ty Law was on the Jets (i checked them to see how up to date it was and it is very up to date).
i decide to play a game, what the hell, just about everyone else is in the same boat i am anyway.
My opponent uses Tampa and i kickoff. My first play on defense, hit stick, fumble, my ball on the TB 32. First play on offense - td to T.O. Next play on defense - user pick. I'm up 21-0 by halftime.
Then TB starts playing cheap... kickoff to me to start the 2nd half, he short kicks it, but i get it... inside my 5. couldn't do much, he ends up with a FG, short kicks it again to me.. inside my 10 cuz i couldn't pick up the ball until he was practically on top of me, i was lucky to get it. but threw a pick.
cutting the story short, i won 27-25, but the clown kept short kicking me which killed any field position i could work with.
I like the vision and precision, it's ill. But it's going to take awhile to get used to the controller config change on defense, it's actually driving me out of my freakin' mind at this point. but i'll adapt soon and it will be second nature.
i did come up with a semi-solution for the R1 receiver since it's difficult to R1/R2 at the same time... I set the cone to the middle of the field before the snap, if the R1 receiver is one of my reads on the play i found it easier to pan the cone to him with the analog stick than to try to switch to him... sometimes, and this is with all receivers, i'll wait til they come to the cone instead of making the cone come to them... pocket time permitting... lol.. but i haven't been sacked much, maybe 6 times total in the 4 games i played so far.
Last edited by Nevada_Ballin; 08-10-2005 at 01:30 AM.
I am very impressed with the Cone passing. I love how you can read a defense and look off the safeties. I am finding that passing is becoming much easier. I had stated earlier that using the R3 button was the way to go. I was wrong for sure. I have really become accustom to reading the defense and then looking all the way to left sied of the field whil therowing to right side. It really opiens up routes to the opposite side of the field. Then all you do is keep R2 held down and hit the recievers button twice. It is really smooth. Best game i've played by far.
Ditto here...The game is going more Sim like, its gonna take a little time to get all the new features you can do on offense and defense..Im HappyIm a Die hard Bills fan and the cone on Losman is Like M.Vicks so its harder, but I think every one should practice with this type of cone..and the palybooks are nice some new stuff, love it and to put the Cherry on it all ,Having PB and Filmroom will Tie it all together
I'm loving the vision and precision. You have to be poised and focused back in that pocket like a real NFL QB or else you're in for a long day. I like the balance between using the right analog and using R2. I like to use R2 for the deep routes, and use the right analog for shorter passes over the middle because I can switch to another receiver quickly. I think you need to learn both to be successful. I still am not comfortable after one day of playing but I can feel it getting easier.
I'v been using Kyle Boller and the Ravens. It's a good mix because it is harder to pass with a QB like that, which is what I need to practice, and I have just enough defense to make up for my anemic offense.
I've been playing since tuesday morning and my thoughts on it is I think its a nic addition to madden but its gonna take alot of time to get used to.You dont have all day to sit in the pocket and wait for a man to get open as in the nfl..its just friggin hard righ now.The big big problem I have with it is the control set-up.hold R2 and the icon...then press the icon again..wtf
Last edited by duo; 08-10-2005 at 12:58 PM.
PS2 Triggers and Passing to R1 reciever
Hey just thought I'd chime in with my first impressions. I play on a PS2 with a pelican (mini I think) controller. The R/L 1/2 buttons are one separate tiers on the back of the controller making it easy to put middle fingers on the R/L 2 buttons. I find it to be very comfortable even compared to having six buttons (4 color plus black and white) on the xbox controller to worry about with just one thumb. I would wonder when dishing to the flat without looking if its not a big deal anyway to look to that reciever first as Bert was suggesting.
Anyway I love the pelican controller and just wondered if anybody else found it to cancel out any difficulty with the PS2 precision passing layout.
over all the game is more fun.....new animations make the game better as well
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