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  1. #1
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    $resigning players$

    whats the best way to free up long term cap room when re-signing players?
    the breakdown shows guys make more money in the later years of their contract. does giving sum1 a big signing bonus give u more $ in the long run or just the year u sign him?

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    if you know he'll make the team next bunch of years:
    7 yrs
    Max bonus
    Min Total money.

    That makes the lowest contracts -> most cap space.

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    be carefull though. If you end up trading away one of those guys with the big bonus, then u will be screwed w/ cap penelties.

    I try to resign my guys with high bonuses to lower bonuses, so I can trade them away if I have to w/o runnung in to problems
    niner faithful

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    Quote Originally Posted by baseballtr7
    be carefull though. If you end up trading away one of those guys with the big bonus, then u will be screwed w/ cap penelties.

    I try to resign my guys with high bonuses to lower bonuses, so I can trade them away if I have to w/o runnung in to problems
    Like I said: only do it with players who will be on your team for a long time.

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    You could re-sign players in the pre-season and see if you can change their position. I needed to re-sign Nick Barnett after this season, and in the pre-season I wanted to see how much he wanted. It would've taken $52mil. over 7 years to re-sign him. However, if I changed his position to HB, I could re-sign him for $9mil. over 7 years. After I re-signed him, I changed his position back to MLB. It's a lot like the QB-Punter trick. If you didn't already know, you can only change a player's position in the pre-season and only a few players are allowed to change position. You can try it with WRs and QBs too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oshow
    You could re-sign players in the pre-season and see if you can change their position. I needed to re-sign Nick Barnett after this season, and in the pre-season I wanted to see how much he wanted. It would've taken $52mil. over 7 years to re-sign him. However, if I changed his position to HB, I could re-sign him for $9mil. over 7 years. After I re-signed him, I changed his position back to MLB. It's a lot like the QB-Punter trick. If you didn't already know, you can only change a player's position in the pre-season and only a few players are allowed to change position. You can try it with WRs and QBs too.
    actually, u can change a players position anytime aslong as you will not go below the minimum players at that position AFTER he has changed.
    thats alittle cheap too
    niner faithful

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    really cheap...

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    Tru But.....

    U can change positions and get them for a cheaper price. But it can come back and bite u in the ***. They are holdouts waiting to happen. Then u'll get stuck in the holdout but they wont give u more years and wont budge.

    Instead, trade the player to a team. Let them pay the 20 million dollar bonus. Then trade back for that player.

    1. You save the bonus on ur "total assets"
    2. Less likely to hold out.
    3. If u get into cap trouble later on in a few years. U can give the guy soem bonus and he'll take the exact same amount of total salary. SO u can get a few mill in cap room.
    4. ALWAYS. at the trading deadline trade your 2,3,4 for a 0-5 or 1-4 teams 1,2 adn 4th round picks. Then trade your 1 for another 0-5 teams 1,2 and 4. So u could end up if u pick the right team with the 1st adn 2nd in round 1,2,3 and 4. Gives u the ability to trade ur studs and avoid paying them the bonus.

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    if u trade away a player with a large bonus then you pay the bonus as a cap hit next season. When you trade for a player the other teams gets the cap penalty.

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    EXAMPLE.

    N. Barnett has 0 yeasr left on his deal. He is on ur squad. Sign him to a deal with NO bonus and a higher salary. Trade him to another team. They will resign him to a new deal more than likely with soem bonus. Then trade back for Barnett after the other team already given him a big bonus. They take the cap hit, the bonus out of total assets. U give away a pick or player and save the big bonus money.
    I did this by accident one time. I had to get rid of Deangelo Hall cuz he wanted way to much money. Then in the draft there were no hot corners. So i had to trade to get one back. The team i traded deangelo to gave him like 12 mill signing bonus with low salaries. I traded a pick to get him back and inherited the low salary with no bonus. He was actually cheaper than my number 4 corner and I had him locked up for six years.

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    kind of abusing hte AI, I personally wouldn't do it. But to make it work if you can trade him with 0 years to go that is when you would have to do it, because I don't think there is a gauruntee the computer would resign a player that already has a contract.

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    Seems to me like cheating the CPU lol I wouldn't do it either

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    i'd do it wait no its cheating the AI, its kind of like masturbation you'll live with the shame.


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    Quote Originally Posted by surlacher54
    its kind of like masturbation you'll live with the shame.
    Please tell me you grew up in the fifties.

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    Yep, like most said, just make sure it is a player you know will be a good player for you.

    I always look at the position too.

    I would never ever resign say..a running back to a new contract because I can go get a speedster with great acceleration or search another team's roster for young players that have the attributes I want that will give em up for a low pick.

    I tend to be flakey with Running Back. I am always looking for that one with 99 speed and 99 acc, so I never committ to any back.

    I have a pretty decent RB now who has a 3 year contract with no signing bonus. I am about to trade him and see what I can get corner or another young running back with better attributes.

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