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    Morality of Madden in decline?

    Is it just me or has the honor of Madden players taken a severe nose dive the past month? I'm not talking about players who use 'cheese' and just high pass all day (Although that is becoming more and more common), I'm talking about ethernet pulling and stalling.

    Within the span of six games, I've been ethernet pulled twice during a game-winning pressure kick from under 45 yards and stalled once. . All of these players had very respectable records, played 100+ games and had no Xs on their reputation.

    Furthermore, two other games were against curl high pass junkies. I wouldn't consider them 'dishonorable,' but I do feel that it hurts the experience of the game. Yes, I do know how to slow down curls (purple zone, bump and run, hit stick, etc.), but when it comprises of 75% of someones offense it makes the game dull

    Am I just having a bad week, or has this happened to anyone else?

    Btw I might as well introduce myself since this is my first post. I'm a PSII user and have visited these forums for tips for several months now. My SN is KillingMyGPA, I have a 130-90 record or something, and my favorite Madden team is the Rams. Nice to meet you all

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillingMyGPA
    Is it just me or has the honor of Madden players taken a severe nose dive the past month? I'm not talking about players who use 'cheese' and just high pass all day (Although that is becoming more and more common), I'm talking about ethernet pulling and stalling.

    Within the span of six games, I've been ethernet pulled twice during a game-winning pressure kick from under 45 yards and stalled once. . All of these players had very respectable records, played 100+ games and had no Xs on their reputation.

    Furthermore, two other games were against curl high pass junkies. I wouldn't consider them 'dishonorable,' but I do feel that it hurts the experience of the game. Yes, I do know how to slow down curls (purple zone, bump and run, hit stick, etc.), but when it comprises of 75% of someones offense it makes the game dull

    Am I just having a bad week, or has this happened to anyone else?

    Btw I might as well introduce myself since this is my first post. I'm a PSII user and have visited these forums for tips for several months now. My SN is KillingMyGPA, I have a 130-90 record or something, and my favorite Madden team is the Rams. Nice to meet you all
    I understand that you are new, but quite frankly, nobody cares about this topic. Come here and talk strategy, not about how fumed you are about glitchers. I understand how frustrating it can make you (It happens to all of us), but here isn't the place to talk about it.

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    it's funny.....

    how people actually choose to play someone by whether they have X's in their reps. It means NOTHING. People send bad feedback often times when you blow them out, or crowd the line, or any little stupid reason. Reps wth X's doesn't always means someone cheats. The true judge I use is always DNF%, because you can't manipulate that. People can just send you bad feedback for the helll of it and ruin your rep. Theres nothing stopping them. Anybodys rep can be ruined for nothing, just because somebody was mad they lost.

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    online sucks!

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    Thumbs down Speak for yourself!

    Quote Originally Posted by SuPeRfLykId
    I understand that you are new, but quite frankly, nobody cares about this topic. Come here and talk strategy, not about how fumed you are about glitchers. I understand how frustrating it can make you (It happens to all of us), but here isn't the place to talk about it.
    I say that it is acceptable for you to come here and vent once in a while(just about everyone else does).This forum use to be about statagy,but it's really not anymore.We use to really share tips,formations,money plays,etc...But this year has taken a major turn.My appologies if this is offensive to some but I'm not directing it to everybody that frequents here.And everyone may not agree,and thats ok.But I am gonna voice my opinion.Most of the time when people are seeking help they are told to "lab" and figure it out that way.When in all reality,there isn't a whole lot of originality anywhere.Most get their info. from the filmroom and then expand from there.Also from the many guides that VG works so hard to produce for us.I really would like to see a little more "grace" offered to people around here.Especially to someone making his first post.I do want to thank everyone throughout the years that have taken the time to go into depth to help people out around here.But as of late,this place has become pretty shallow.
    You'll be amazed how improved others become when you ask the Lord to change you first!

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    madden this year isnt that good last year was better atleast people had to be creative not catch it in double coverage every play its gay


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    Quote Originally Posted by SuPeRfLykId
    I understand that you are new, but quite frankly, nobody cares about this topic. Come here and talk strategy, not about how fumed you are about glitchers. I understand how frustrating it can make you (It happens to all of us), but here isn't the place to talk about it.
    Your point is taken that this is a "Madden strategy" forum, but I didn't know where to else to post it. In my experience, Madden strategy tends to also include other general Madden discussion. Yes I know that doesn't change the fact that the issue I raised is not a strategy issue, but I doubt anyone's head is going to explode when they see that this thread is in Madden strategy.

    My recent online experience is "frustrating", but the primary reason for me to post it here isn't for me to "fume." After being stall glitched and ethernet pulled in half my last six games, I'm wondering if I'm just unlucky or whether I should stick to playing people on my friends list. The thread was a serious question, not a rhetorical one.

    On the issue of the "Xs," I do agree that someones Madden reputation is not always accurate on how "straight" a Madden player is. The staller paused the game and remarked "I know you cheat, see you later" before he began stalling me and refused to answer my question of how I was cheating. Its just from my experience that someone with a bad reputation has a higher CHANCE of being a glitcher than someone with a good one.

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    Go ahead and vent man, it's cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillingMyGPA
    Your point is taken that this is a "Madden strategy" forum, but I didn't know where to else to post it. In my experience, Madden strategy tends to also include other general Madden discussion. Yes I know that doesn't change the fact that the issue I raised is not a strategy issue, but I doubt anyone's head is going to explode when they see that this thread is in Madden strategy.

    My recent online experience is "frustrating", but the primary reason for me to post it here isn't for me to "fume." After being stall glitched and ethernet pulled in half my last six games, I'm wondering if I'm just unlucky or whether I should stick to playing people on my friends list. The thread was a serious question, not a rhetorical one.

    On the issue of the "Xs," I do agree that someones Madden reputation is not always accurate on how "straight" a Madden player is. The staller paused the game and remarked "I know you cheat, see you later" before he began stalling me and refused to answer my question of how I was cheating. Its just from my experience that someone with a bad reputation has a higher CHANCE of being a glitcher than someone with a good one.
    you would hope that the cheese Dicks who do have to cheat to win, would go away and wouldn't continue, but for some reason they continue to stay. I just don't see the enjoyment someone would get knowing they have to cheat to win and continue to play the game consistenly. You would also think that cheating would diminish, but as the community dewindles, so will the great players, and so the chances of playing a cheater will increase.

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    The nature of man is and will always be, do whatever it takes to win. Not just in Madden, just PERIOD. It sucks, but that's just how people are.

    Heck, I've resorted to Curls once or twice in league games to save me. (not counting the season in NFR when i was the Ravens. I resorted to Curls about 5 times a games then, LOL)

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Disciple
    The nature of man is and will always be, do whatever it takes to win. Not just in Madden, just PERIOD. It sucks, but that's just how people are.

    Heck, I've resorted to Curls once or twice in league games to save me. (not counting the season in NFR when i was the Ravens. I resorted to Curls about 5 times a games then, LOL)
    I don't find any of the curls or high passing cheating.. I just don't seem to have the problems a lot people have defending it.

    Curl routes aren't hard to stop nor is it cheating. Its your oppoenents fault for allowing the WR to get position for the curl route.

    Cheating to me is doing the punt glitch, stalling on FGs or Kickoffs, running to the back of the end zone for a safety to hold on the kick off so you opponent quits and you as well can quit or go for the Win... Those are just some of the things i beleive are what the original post was referring to as cheating. And the frequency of it is greater now with the Madden community slowly dewindeling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pepper spray
    I don't find any of the curls or high passing cheating.. I just don't seem to have the problems a lot people have defending it.

    Curl routes aren't hard to stop nor is it cheating. Its your oppoenents fault for allowing the WR to get position for the curl route.

    Cheating to me is doing the punt glitch, stalling on FGs or Kickoffs, running to the back of the end zone for a safety to hold on the kick off so you opponent quits and you as well can quit or go for the Win... Those are just some of the things i beleive are what the original post was referring to as cheating. And the frequency of it is greater now with the Madden community slowly dewindeling.
    I'm not saying curls are cheating, just a little "immoral" LOL.

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    madden this year isnt that good last year was better atleast people had to be creative not catch it in double coverage every play its gay
    And the studda step and crazy nano's were usable.....LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by pepper spray
    I don't find any of the curls or high passing cheating.. I just don't seem to have the problems a lot people have defending it.

    Curl routes aren't hard to stop nor is it cheating. Its your oppoenents fault for allowing the WR to get position for the curl route.

    Cheating to me is doing the punt glitch, stalling on FGs or Kickoffs, running to the back of the end zone for a safety to hold on the kick off so you opponent quits and you as well can quit or go for the Win... Those are just some of the things i beleive are what the original post was referring to as cheating. And the frequency of it is greater now with the Madden community slowly dewindeling.
    It's not our fault when there are 4 defenders around the WR, and he still makes the catch.

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    Madden went down hill twds the end of 04 and has never recovered. People care way to much about winning and all these leagues and tourneys premote the desire to win at all cost. People need to remeber how to have fun again..

    I think EA should allow one account with 2 names and thats it. I think its probly worse on PS2 then on Box. But over all I can't stand the direction most Madden sites have gone. Its all about beating the pants off the other people online. It should be about having fun and promotion good sportsmanship.

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