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  1. #31
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    3-4 &46

    Hey guys i use to run a 46 and 34 withj zone an manual heat got scared of the deep ball for a couple of games. Now i say the hell with it i'm gonna bring my manual heat with ilb and double one wr pm flat zones i'm giving up to much underneath stuff. Sometimes u just gotta go with what you know.

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    check out my post in the D section

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    how do you stop the run though

    those plays work really well in passing down situations, but how you stop the run in the backfield if the person like to run dives and counters??

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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by StlnKC
    those plays work really well in passing down situations, but how you stop the run in the backfield if the person like to run dives and counters??
    Okay, I'm not a defensive whiz so don't get mad if my tips don't help lol. But here's what I do.

    Until my oppoent shows me they pass I always assume run on the first play. I usually call plays with both MLBs blitzing the middle. Then I'll pinch my line. After then I crash them out. This allows my MLBs to shoot the A gap well hopefully they will. Then I control the FS and take away the outside runs.

    I feel with my setup that the MLBs will handle the inside run pretty well so I don't have to worry about it with the FS. It's simple but works for me. You may want to try it too.


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    not to be an A@@ hole but I posted this + some in another post...

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    Quote Originally Posted by daone
    not to be an A@@ hole but I posted this + some in another post...

    http://www.vgsportsinc.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=62956
    Yeah but I decided it would be easier to tell him then post the link. Sorry about that man.


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  7. #37
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    46 Rules!!!!

  8. #38
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    run d

    can u guys help me with my run defense man i got ran on for 185 yds off of 40 atts in my league game and i did plays like pinch please tell me what to do i don't wanna get ran onlike that again

  9. #39
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    can u guys help me with my run defense man i got ran on for 185 yds off of 40 atts in my league game and i did plays like pinch please tell me what to do i don't wanna get ran onlike that again
    if you're on all-madden, dont pinch your LB's a lot, unless it's short yardage, ESPECIALLY if you're playin a speedy back(93+ speed), b-cuz if they get outside of the box on you, it can be a bad thing, seeing as how CB's aren't usually good tacklers, but if you must, and you have a speedy safety that can tackle, zone him over the middle and watch the back. Follow him and when he cuts, meet him....

    Otherwise try blitzing your interior LBs, spreading and looping your line, spreading your LBs and sending the outside LBs to the flats on zones. You might wanna bring a safety on this too, but only if they are 2 MAYBE 3 wide...and it's a BIG MAYBE. playactions a killer without safety help, you'll get beat deep a lot on all-madden in one on one when they go PA. even if your CBs are aware.

    And if youve got slow DE's that are strong and quick LBs, pinch the D-Line, and spread the LBs, and blitz around the ends, zone 1 of your ILBs over the middle, blitz the other.(if youve got only one fast ILB, zone him and blitz the other, if theyre both fast, leave the more aware one in the zone). So if they go up the middle, they should be stuffed, and outside, your Lbs should be fast enough to get around the Tackles to shut it down. But yeah 3-4's the greatest. Hope it helps man, PE@CE

  10. #40
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    cool thnx for the help

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    Great tips,I got desire to play 3-4

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  12. #42
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    I play with the Panthers, and my D is sick. I run the 3-4 and get insane heat, coverage, turnovers, and big hits. I started running this D mainly b/c of this thread. I printed it out and I read it before every meaningful game I play.

  13. #43
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    Hi, my first post.

    I started playing a 3-4 after reading this thread, and I like it a lot better b/c you can really mix things up and there is some room for creativity (except it sucks when you see something you want to do and don't have time to do it and accidentally commit). And for the most part I had no problem stopping the run for awhile. Recently I played the Bengals and I got dismantled. The pathetic thing is, I knew what he was going to do but I couldn't stop it. I play with the Ravens and Ravens/Balanced D playbook. It continued on to the point that I started using a 4-6 on certain plays (I did not want to use a 4-3).

    He ran straight dives and slams and killed me right up the middle. I usually spread and loop the line but eventually I left the line regular, crashed it in and pinched the LB's (sometimes pinched line). I blitzed the ILB's, I don't know what else to try. And every now and then he would throw a deep ball PA. Anyways, I couldn't stop the inside run with the 3-4 - damn suction blocking, everybody is getting blocked and he runs right into the secondary.

    Any suggestions? Sorry if the solution is already posted somewhere. When I pinch the line, BTW, he often heads outside. I just really could not stop the run at all.

    EDIT: I was usually running man plays on the dives/slams. My defense pretty much depended on someone getting free from a block, and even then we would pick up 2-3 yards. BTW, he most often used Strong I (normal) and Singleback Big.
    Last edited by Ermeni; 12-21-2006 at 05:51 PM.

  14. #44
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    hey try to stack ur lb's over ur d-lineman which means u take 3 lb's and put em right behind each d-lineman and probably u can move the 4th lb to the middle of the field between the safeties and lb's it's kind of a hard setup though

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    i really like this def. i use bal. def. PB and use the 3-4 when my opponent comes out w/ 2 WR and if i thik they're going to run. the outside run is near imposible w/ how far out the OLB's are, i pinch th D-line and stack the MLB's to stop the run between the tackles.
    Last edited by pitbull; 12-29-2006 at 03:31 AM.


 

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