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  1. #46
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    haha evad... tell them those plays don't really work... just messin with ya evad good shiza!!!!!

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    Sorry guys...

    I've been moving around to different playbooks. I played with the Seattle book for over a year. I might still come back to it. Here are a few plays I never got around to posting. I hope they help.

    Singleback Tight Doubles: Curl Drag
    Against Man coverage (especially if man lock is off):
    1.) Smart route the TE
    2.) Motion the TE to the backfieldm (wait until he is set before you snap it)
    3.) Hot route the SL (#3 WR) on a streak

    Result: the TE and SL's defenders should pick the FL free (one running drag to right). If it works right he should get a lot of separation. Checkdowns are the RB in the flat, who also should have a lot of separation.

    Against BNR, look for the RB every time for big yards in the flats.

    Singleback Tight Doubles: formation shifting from Far Tight Twins
    #1. )Have Far Tight Twins Flats as an audible. Come out in SB TIght Doubles.

    1.) Audible to "Flats"
    2.) Formation shift back to Tight Doubles
    3.) Put the FL on an out, smart route the out (will make it a 10 yard out).
    *4.) Put the SE on a slant to the outside (if there is BNR) or a streak with no bump.
    5.) Motion the SE to the right and snap when he is about halfway to the TE
    *-optional

    This setup destroys man coverage. You always have the deep out and HB flat route as a checkdown, but the TE's route is where the money is. When you are against BNR we put the SE on a slant to the outside. This is a very good BNR beater (fire to the outside when he separates). Against no bump we like to use the SE as a decoy to move the safety inside. This just allows us more space for the TE to make a catch.

    Against zone I motion the SL receiver to the right and put him on a streak. Then I put the SE on a screen route. This helps soak up flat coverage and divert the CB in deep zone. TE is the money read... again.

    #2.) Put Far Tights Slot Corner in as an audible, come out in SB Tight Doubles

    Against BNR:
    1.) Audible to Slot Corner, formation shift to Tight Doubles
    2.) Put the SL on a streak.
    3.) Motion TE to backfield (wait until he sets before you snap it)

    The reads are simple. BNR always helps our RB scoot out into the flats quicker. The TE benefits from the SL's streak route; he should get decent separation. The MONEY route here is the unbumpable route by the SE. He CAN'T get bumped on this play. The thing is, he doesn't run his drag all the way to the sideline. So you have to roll to the right a bit and deliver the throw. Either way, he should be VERY open. Trust me. This play is gold. If you notice the SE is getting caught up in the line, it could be because of the defensive alignment. In this case, leave the TE lined up in his original position. Just practice the play.

    Against zone set it up the same way.

    #3. Put Far Tight TE Option in as an audible, come out in SB TIght Doubles

    1.) Audible to TE Option, formation shift back to TIght Doubles
    2.) Motion TE to backfield, put on streak

    Against BNR you have the FL's delayed drag to the right; it's unbumpable. The TE's streak helps occupy the backside safety. The C-Route by the SL is often the throw I make here... if I don't just dump it off to the HB
    _____

    One final tip: there is a VERY fast play action you can PULL into other plays. Near Close PA Strong Flow is a fake run to the FB. If you come out in this play and shift to another 2-back set and pull the routes (Triangle, up, Triangle, up on PS2; Y, up, Y, up on XBOX) you will pull the FB's PA and the very effective flat route. Why do this? The PA is VERY FAST and can get off before even 5 and 6 man blitzes have the chance to develop. Also, with everyone using the Run/Pass commit feature this year, you'll undoubtedly get someone to think run, then BOOM, hit em for 6.

    There ya go. This might be my final chapter in this thread... for a while at least.

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  3. #48
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    nice writeups. this is my fav playbook. ive used this playbook all yr and its done very good for me. using the hawks is awesome they have 5 WR's that are all good, 2 good TE's, 2HB's and Mack strong. so many options. if you wanna throw a twist into this try using seneca wallace with this playbook. its like having vick with more weapons.

  4. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by evad04
    I've been moving around to different playbooks. I played with the Seattle book for over a year. I might still come back to it. Here are a few plays I never got around to posting. I hope they help.

    Singleback Tight Doubles: Curl Drag
    Against Man coverage (especially if man lock is off):
    1.) Smart route the TE
    2.) Motion the TE to the backfieldm (wait until he is set before you snap it)
    3.) Hot route the SL (#3 WR) on a streak

    Result: the TE and SL's defenders should pick the FL free (one running drag to right). If it works right he should get a lot of separation. Checkdowns are the RB in the flat, who also should have a lot of separation.

    Against BNR, look for the RB every time for big yards in the flats.

    I ran this in the lab last night against man, blitz schemes, cvr 2, cvr 3 and out of 4-3, 3-4, and dime coverages. this play is OFF THE HOOK! The HB route is unbelieveable.1 thing to do is to start the play with the cursor on the TE until it's time to throw it. And Hot Block the OLine to the left so that you can slightly roll with the play. Against man or the blitz, simply hit the HB early in the route for HUGE gains. The whole side of the field is open, I'm talking 15+ yards. Especially when you run this play to the wide side of the field.

    Now, against cvr 2 or cvr 3, set everything the same way, keeping the cursor on the TE until it's time to throw it is a little more important vs zone, then roll a little left with the blocking scheme, after the HB clears the LB towards the flat throw to him and lead him UP with the pass, this is a 20-30 yard gain TO THE HB!!!

    This play is straight money! Nice find!
    Last edited by 35BigHurt35; 12-22-2006 at 10:57 AM.

  5. #50
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    I was also labbing some other plays and came across this one on my own. very nice.

    Split Backs Pro Spread
    QB Rollout


    Run this from the left hash or the middle hash.

    Motion the far RIGHT WR (0 wr on PS2) to the left. (He doesn't come all the way across, he just comes past the slot wr and stops.)

    Hot route the WR (0 wr) that you just motioned to do a slant out.

    Hot route the slot WR (triangle on the PS2) to do a curl route.

    Hot Block the OLine to the right since you're going to roll that way.

    Against man or a blitz, throw it high and away as your man separates. Against zone D, after the 0 wr clears the shallow zone man, then throw it, there will be quite a bit of separation against any zone. Against man it's a 10-15 yard play, against zone its a 20+ yarder.....

    enjoy!!
    Last edited by 35BigHurt35; 12-22-2006 at 10:58 AM.

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    These plays sound great, I'll have to go check 'em out!

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  7. #52
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    By the way, in that split backs QB Rollout play, if you R2 to zoom out as you motion the guy you will be able to tell if they are in man or zone defense. If the CB stays with the 0wr they are in man D. If the cb comes over and lines up on the previous slot guy, and the defender that was on the slot guy shuffles over to now line up with the 0wr then it's zone. This will tell you if you need to be prepared to throw it hard right as the wr gets separation, OR, if it's zone you'll have to throw with a little more touch after the wr clears that short zone defender......just a fyi that I forgot to add to the previous post.....

  8. #53
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    im new to madden im wondering what are those plays evad gave? Is it compression?

  9. #54
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    plays from the seattle playbook. many are from compressed sets, yes.

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    Good zone buster

    SB Tight Doubles:

    -set SB Slot Strong Twin Outs as an audible
    -come out in SB Tight Doubles Curl Drag
    -audible to "Twin Outs"; formation shift back to Tight Doubles
    -pull the RB's route
    -motion the TE to the left (speed helps)
    -put the SE (far left receiver) on a streak; put the FL (furthest left receiver) on a fade

    You have an angled slant heading upfield to the left at the depth of a "curl zone" (purple zone). The streak helps occupy deep coverage, the HB runs to the flats; the SL runs a great angled slant to the middle of the field; and the FL goes deep.

    This is great against zone blitzes because you have 5 viable passing options. I usually let the route develop and then hit the TE on the angled slant (really works more like a fade route) to the left. Give it a shot!


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  11. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by evad04
    SB Tight Doubles:

    -set SB Slot Strong Twin Outs as an audible
    -come out in SB Tight Doubles Curl Drag
    -audible to "Twin Outs"; formation shift back to Tight Doubles
    -pull the RB's route
    -motion the TE to the left (speed helps)
    -put the SE (far left receiver) on a streak; put the FL (furthest left receiver) on a fade

    You have an angled slant heading upfield to the left at the depth of a "curl zone" (purple zone). The streak helps occupy deep coverage, the HB runs to the flats; the SL runs a great angled slant to the middle of the field; and the FL goes deep.

    This is great against zone blitzes because you have 5 viable passing options. I usually let the route develop and then hit the TE on the angled slant (really works more like a fade route) to the left. Give it a shot!

    I run this play the same way you do. I also have another option for people too. You give the defense the same exact look. Right up until the part where you motion the TE. Instead of motioning the TE, you Hot Route him to a streak route. next, I hot block my OLine to the right. The route that your WR runs now that angles diagonally from left to right is a 25+ yard play. have your fastest WR running it and he runs away from man coverage. If it's zone coverage, the TE streaking occupies the safety and this route is MONEY! Of course, the HB's pulled route in the flat is basically an undefenseabl;e route unless they manually play it. If they blitz, drop zone, or if it's man coverage all you do is unload it to the back early. If it's cover 2 or 3 zone coverage, let the HB clear the zone front zone man and lead your pass UP to him. 15+.

    I also run the play exactly like you highlighted to the TE. I just wanted to point out another option out of the exact same pre-snap look. I've been killin' people with these 2 plays for months now....they're money.

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    SB-Trips Bunch

    Bunch Fade- This play is a quick pass that works well against bump n run and non bump n run.

    1. Motion Far right Receiver to the right

    2. Say hike just before he gets set up

    3. Wait about 2 seconds and throw it high

    It should get you atleast a 10 yard gain and sometimes it will get you more depending on when you throw it.

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    wow, can't beilive this isn't stickied.

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    ok my turn now

    Far Pro (normal) - TE Curl

    1. Formation Shift to the sb tight doubles (left on the control pad)
    2. Hot route your fb (r1) to do a slant out/corner (triangle-r1-L2)
    3. Optional - either streak the te (who is now at the se postion) or smart route him to shorten his route so that he doesn't interfere with your se (who is now at the te postion) doing the out route

    Read the defense. My first reads are the slant/corner, the hb going over the middle, the deep out, then streaks. However, if you just read the d, someone will get open whether its zone or man....

    peace

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    Wow, thanks alot evad and big hurt. These are great plays.

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